| Unit193 | Conference? | 08:08 |
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| micahg | Unit193: Canonical rally | 08:14 |
| Unit193 | Yea, didn't know one was going on now, but figured it out with "@conference/canonical-sprint/x-aftyeckbpmgjwupv" | 08:14 |
| micahg | xubuntu alternates no longer oversized, live images are still though | 10:05 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: I haven't merged murrine-themes since I wasn't sure if our snapshot was ahead of Debian or not | 11:48 |
| nanotube | oversized images? just rip out the gimp! </ubuntu> :) | 14:25 |
| astraljava | Nooo! Without gimp, you can't scale down the images. *blink* *blink* | 14:44 |
| nanotube | haha | 14:45 |
| nanotube | i wonder how much space 'convert' takes up. | 14:45 |
| astraljava | It's in the imagemagick package. Probably could separate it, taking very little. | 14:46 |
| nanotube | heh, the whole imagemagick takes < 300kb. gimp takes 14mb .... i figure there's no need for a split-up :) | 14:48 |
| astraljava | Sure, but you specifically asked for convert. :) | 14:49 |
| astraljava | *only | 14:49 |
| nanotube | indeed :) | 14:59 |
| charlie-tca | The live session starts with compositing enabled now? Doesn't that severely limit those who are looking for a light-weight OS and can't use compositing? | 15:12 |
| baizon | not really i think :) | 15:14 |
| charlie-tca | NO? What about video cards that are unable to use that and therefore, fail to start the live session? | 15:14 |
| charlie-tca | That probably explains a lot of the video failures we get reported, where all they get is a black screen. | 15:15 |
| baizon | ok, i didnt know that. sorry :( | 15:18 |
| charlie-tca | It also increases the required memory | 15:20 |
| astraljava | Crap. Alarm's custom command won't be stopped if you stop the alarm that just went off. | 15:46 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, I noticed that too. It is a change from a couple of releases back, too. | 15:47 |
| charlie-tca | It used to turn off both the on-screen indicator and the alarm | 15:47 |
| astraljava | That's what I thought. | 15:48 |
| charlie-tca | I just added the alarm sounds back here, or I might have noticed it a lot sooner | 15:52 |
| charlie-tca | appologies to Unit193 and GridCube. They have been documenting testing results, but it seems quite difficult to find the results from daily testing after the next image is out. | 15:55 |
| astraljava | I just realized a moment ago. | 16:01 |
| nanotube | astraljava: where do you find alarms in xubuntu? you mean orage? | 16:12 |
| astraljava | nanotube: It's the alarm applet. I'm not sure where it belongs to, but adding it makes it appear in the applet list of indicator plugin. | 16:14 |
| nanotube | astraljava: is that one of the things you can add to panel? i don't see anything called 'alarm' in there... | 16:15 |
| nanotube | maybe it's an extra package | 16:15 |
| nanotube | ? | 16:15 |
| astraljava | Yeah. One sec. | 16:16 |
| astraljava | $ dpkg -l | grep alarm | 16:16 |
| astraljava | ii alarm-clock 1.2.5-1.2 Alarm Clock for GTK Environments | 16:16 |
| nanotube | xfce4-timer-plugin ? | 16:16 |
| astraljava | ii alarm-clock-applet 0.3.2-1ubuntu1 Alarm Clock applet | 16:16 |
| nanotube | ah | 16:16 |
| nanotube | thanks :) | 16:17 |
| astraljava | NP. I'm not sure whether charlie-tca meant this one, but it used to work prior to oneiric. Not sure how far before oneiric, but in one of the earlier releases. | 16:18 |
| charlie-tca | The one I use is called xfce4-timer . It is a panel applet that you install | 16:19 |
| charlie-tca | nanotube: that's the one I use. It used to have the external alarms turn off when you clicked the "time up" box. Now it keeps ringing until it is done | 16:20 |
| nanotube | hm ic | 16:21 |
| nanotube | speaking of alarms... anyone can tell me why i'm not getting orage reminder notifications? events just pass on by | 16:21 |
| charlie-tca | probably a preference you need to put a check in. open the calendar by clicking the panel app, click edit, preferences | 16:22 |
| charlie-tca | Might need to set an alarm or something in the event, too. Been a while since I used orage for events | 16:23 |
| nanotube | already checked, nothing there about "don't show alarms even though you want to" :) | 16:23 |
| astraljava | nanotube: You're talking precise, right? | 16:24 |
| nanotube | ah hmm, it seems my events have not been checked with "persistent alarm", so maybe they just pass me by when the computer was suspended? | 16:24 |
| nanotube | astraljava: precise what? | 16:25 |
| astraljava | Hmm... could be. | 16:25 |
| astraljava | nanotube: pangolin. :) | 16:25 |
| nanotube | astraljava: no, i'm on oneiric :) | 16:26 |
| nanotube | haha | 16:26 |
| astraljava | Ok. | 16:27 |
| nanotube | well, let's see if that does it. :) | 16:29 |
| astraljava | At least it works without suspending. | 16:31 |
| nanotube | heh yes. and i couldn't be arsed to suspend atm. so i'll just see how my regular notifications go now that i set them to persistent. :) | 16:37 |
| astraljava | Ok. I'll be going to the office tomorrow so I'll suspend then. | 16:42 |
| micahg | do we want xdiagnose seeded to help debug X issues? | 17:04 |
| charlie-tca | not really. It is really easy to install, isn't it? | 17:05 |
| micahg | sure | 17:05 |
| micahg | sudo apt-get install xdiagnose | 17:05 |
| charlie-tca | Does it need to be there all the time? We already have turned on composite mode, which is going to create more fails | 17:05 |
| micahg | idk, needing to install it means needing to reproduce failures a second time | 17:06 |
| charlie-tca | That is true | 17:06 |
| charlie-tca | and when they can't get anything but a black screen because they can't use compositing, it is going to fail anyway | 17:07 |
| charlie-tca | If the issue can not be reproduced, it is not going to get worked anyway, most of the time | 17:07 |
| nanotube | so, why not turn compositing off by default? | 17:13 |
| charlie-tca | That would be my choice, but it is not my decision. I did not decide to turn it on, either. | 17:14 |
| nanotube | not saying it was. just making the suggestion :) | 17:14 |
| charlie-tca | +1 :) | 17:14 |
| nanotube | as long as it's easy enough to turn it on (it is, might want to make it more prominent if needed), should be fine either way | 17:15 |
| nanotube | or... how about making it an available option at the livecd selection screen | 17:16 |
| micahg | is xubuntu-devel moderated? | 17:33 |
| charlie-tca | and logged | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 17:34 |
| astraljava | Moderated? How does that work? | 17:34 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: no, sorry, I meant the ML | 17:35 |
| astraljava | Or are we talking about mailing list here? | 17:35 |
| astraljava | In which case the logging doesn't make sense. | 17:35 |
| astraljava | Ahh... yes. | 17:35 |
| charlie-tca | yes, it is. I think cody-somerville is the moderator | 17:35 |
| charlie-tca | but I might be wrong again | 17:35 |
| micahg | hmm, ok | 17:35 |
| madnick | devel cant be moderated afaik | 17:37 |
| madnick | I remember joining that last year and it happened instantly | 17:37 |
| charlie-tca | That doesn't mean so much. We can set them to allow that | 17:37 |
| charlie-tca | xubuntu-devel list run by knightlust at ubuntu.com, cody-somerville at ubuntu.com | 17:38 |
| micahg | not what I meant either | 17:38 |
| cody-somerville | whats the question? | 17:38 |
| charlie-tca | not sure how much is done, though, micahg | 17:38 |
| micahg | message moderation for non-subscribed users | 17:38 |
| charlie-tca | cody-somerville: is the ubuntu-devel mailing list moderated? | 17:39 |
| charlie-tca | sorry, wrong one. | 17:40 |
| charlie-tca | cody-somerville: is the xubuntu-devel mailing list moderated? | 17:40 |
| cody-somerville | No. But some messages do get moderated | 17:41 |
| cody-somerville | like from non-subscribers | 17:41 |
| charlie-tca | That's what micahg was looking for | 17:41 |
| micahg | yep, ok, I'll figure it out later then, thanks | 17:42 |
| charlie-tca | anybody that can test desktop images today? We have the installer now, and need to make sure it works, both with "Try Xubuntu" and "Install Xubuntu" | 18:01 |
| astraljava | I can do the 32-bit one. | 18:05 |
| astraljava | ...on real hw. | 18:05 |
| astraljava | 64-bit on virt. | 18:05 |
| astraljava | Will that do? | 18:05 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, but of course. and it will be very much appreciated! | 18:09 |
| astraljava | Ok I'll report on the tracker in a few hours. | 18:11 |
| astraljava | What's the hardware profile asked in the iso testing results page? | 23:01 |
| Unit193 | Something I ignore | 23:01 |
| Unit193 | Might be for later use, I just put it in the comments | 23:01 |
| astraljava | Ok. Put what in the comments? CPU, RAM, what else? | 23:02 |
| Unit193 | Whatever you feel, I normally put RAM and that I used VBox | 23:02 |
| astraljava | Ok. | 23:03 |
| Unit193 | But that's me | 23:03 |
| astraljava | Where? | 23:03 |
| astraljava | Oh, there you are. | 23:03 |
| Unit193 | -----> | 23:04 |
| astraljava | Hmm... can't do the wubi part of the tests, though. | 23:14 |
| astraljava | Unit193: Charlie left, so can't tell him I got too tired to do the amd64 desktop tests, unfortunately. Did the entire disk and manual partitioning for i386 on real hw, however. | 23:36 |
| astraljava | Going to try to sleep now. G'night, all. | 23:42 |
| Unit193 | Good night, I'll run some when I get home | 23:49 |
| nanotube | so where are those desktop images that need testing? i can test one on liveusb on a 64bit box. | 23:49 |
| nanotube | and can anyone point to the standard testing procedure? | 23:50 |
| Unit193 | nanotube: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/204/builds | 23:51 |
| nanotube | thanks Unit193 . is there any details of what i should be looking at once i boot into a livesession? | 23:53 |
| Unit193 | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/204/builds/9687/downloads and http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopLiveSession | 23:54 |
| Unit193 | There is a link with every one | 23:54 |
| nanotube | ah, i missed the little wrench icon which would have taken me to the second link, which is what i was looking for. :) thanks Unit193 | 23:55 |
| Unit193 | Yep, as always | 23:56 |
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