[00:13] <leontopod> what is xubuntu that makes it different from ubuntu?
[00:14] <nanotube> leontopod: it uses the xfce desktop environment
[00:15] <nanotube> which is lighter on resources generally speaking
[00:15] <leontopod> ok thanks
[00:15] <nanotube> a big bonus (for some people) in that the UI behaves a lot like the old gnome2
[00:15] <nanotube> what with the panels and all.
[00:23] <Kvaks> XFCE uses GTK+2 and Unity uses GTK+3, right? Is it possible to have both installed?
[00:24] <nanotube> Kvaks: i have installed xubuntu-desktop on top of regular ubuntu oneiric, no problems here
[00:24] <nanotube> they seem to coexist just fine
[00:25] <Kvaks> Ok, nice. I thought that there would be a conflict there.
[01:40] <Sebastien> where is the path to change the "motd" greet when you log on terminal ?
[01:40] <nanotube> Sebastien: /etc/motd iirc
[01:40] <Unit193> ~/.bashrc on default install
[01:40] <Sebastien> iirc ?
[01:40] <Unit193> Talking SSH?
[01:41] <nanotube> iirc == if i recall correctly
[01:41] <Sebastien> ah
[01:41] <nanotube> Unit193: i don't see any reference to motd in .bashrc
[01:41] <Unit193> nanotube: I'll have to show you mine sometime ;)
[01:42] <nanotube> and i do see the content of /etc/motd when i log in on one of the vtys :)
[01:42] <Unit193> /etc/update-motd.d/ too
[01:42] <nanotube> Unit193: haha no time like the present. ;) though even better would be if you just tell me about all the cool stuff ;)
[01:42] <nanotube> bonus question: what does 'motd' stand for? :)
[01:43] <Sebastien> message of the day
[01:43] <nanotube> \o/ you win ... i dunno, an irc hi-five
[01:43]  * nanotube _o/\o_ Sebastien 
[01:43] <nanotube> :D
[01:43] <Sebastien> o/
[01:43] <nanotube> \o
[01:43] <nanotube> heh
[01:46] <Sebastien> do i have to restart the box when i change this nanotube ?
[01:47] <nanotube> iirc, no
[01:47] <Sebastien> http://puu.sh/d1Ai its still the default one
[01:48] <Sebastien> as soon i log off the file goes back to default.
[01:48] <Unit193> Yeah, that's because the system updates it, man update-motd
[01:48] <nanotube> i suppose stuff in update-motd.d resets it
[01:49] <nanotube> heh
[01:49]  * nanotube hasn't really mucked around with motd since i ran multiuser servers ... a decade ago. :)
[01:49] <nanotube> all this newfangled update-motd stuff. meh. :P
[01:50] <TVasEyes> may not be popular, but here goes anyway: http://deadmemes.net/2010/10/19/fear-and-loathing-in-debianubuntu-or-who-needs-etcmotd/
[01:53] <nanotube> hehe
[01:53] <Sebastien> so editing /etc/motd is not the easy way anymore ?
[01:54] <Sebastien> who was that stupid to re-invent the wheel?
[01:54] <TVasEyes> motd is constructed from a handful of scripts.
[01:54]  * Sebastien found another reason why to use Centos...
[01:54] <TVasEyes> is actual work to get it back to standard behaviour.
[01:55] <Sebastien> i saw that...
[01:56] <TVasEyes> Sebastien: if you want another reason, what do you see when you type 'who' ?
[01:57] <Sebastien> nothing important
[01:57] <TVasEyes> more than I get, I get noting, nada, zilch.  user doesn't exist?
[01:58] <TVasEyes> anyway..
 ~/.bashrc on default install
[02:13] <Sebastien> what do you mean if i may ask ?
[02:13] <Unit193> Sebastien: Right you're going to want to chmod -x the files in /etc/update-motd/ that you don't want to show, and edit /etc/motd.tail for your message
[02:13] <Unit193> Well, didn't have to start at the beginning, but yep
[02:14] <Sebastien> i dont have /update-motd/
[02:14] <Sebastien> but i do have /update-motd.d/
[02:16] <Unit193> Woop, typo
[02:16] <Sebastien> ok
[02:16] <Sebastien> so i chmod +x * frim in this folder
[02:17] <Unit193> Well, the ones you don't want to run, -x
[02:17] <Sebastien> ya -x * typo :(
[02:18] <Sebastien> what is motd.tail ?
[02:18] <Sebastien> i can't find it
[02:18] <Unit193> /etc/motd.tail you may need to create
[02:19] <Sebastien> ok
[02:20] <Sebastien> now this is all i got: http://puu.sh/d1Nz
[02:21] <Unit193> You left /etc/update-motd.d/99-footer with executable?
[02:24] <Sebastien> ya, and look what the file is: http://puu.sh/d1P3
[02:24] <Sebastien> but the motd didn't show.
[02:24] <Sebastien> i only see this: http://puu.sh/d1Pc
[02:26] <Unit193> Things to check: /etc/update-motd.d/99-footer has +x /etc/motd.tail is the file, and then put it in /etc/motd and wait for it to refresh (It doesn't right after you edit, iirc)
[02:27] <Unit193> (To test, I just tried it)
[02:27] <Unit193> Worked
[02:28] <Sebastien> got it
[02:28] <Sebastien> perfect :)
[02:28] <Sebastien> Thank you :)
[02:28] <Unit193> You are welcome
[02:28]  * Unit193 removes pookie from motd.tail
[02:29] <Sebastien> http://puu.sh/d1Qx exactly what i wanted \o/ \o/
[02:30] <Unit193> Awesome! That's actually quite handy too
[02:30] <Unit193> You can also use banner
[02:30] <Sebastien> ill put some usefull infos for everyone here using the server too
[02:30] <Sebastien> some bash scripts to install stuff..
[02:30] <Sebastien> Thank you :)
[02:30] <Unit193> Sure
[02:38] <Sebastien> second question, how do i add programs to startup on boot
[02:38] <Sebastien> like eggdrop and irc server
[02:40] <TVasEyes> add to /etc/rc.local
[02:41] <TVasEyes> (is one way)
[02:43] <eleek> hi
[02:43] <eleek> is anyone here?
[02:43] <shoenig> nope
[02:43] <eleek> hmm
[02:44] <eleek> then what is this room used for?
[02:44] <shoenig> nobody really knows
[02:44] <pleia2> eleek: there are people here :) feel free to just ask your question, if folks know the answer they will reply
[02:45] <eleek> I was needing help setting up samba on xubuntu, I have an older laptop that is running it and I am trying to connect to my workgroup.
[02:46] <pleia2> what problem are you running in to?
[02:46] <Unit193> Are you just trying to connect to a server? or setting one up?
[02:47] <eleek> well I was stuck in the default "WORKGROUP" then I went to change it and now the computer is not showing up anywhere.
[02:47] <eleek> it is for a home network
[02:51] <eleek> I can see the workgroup that I have set up for my other computers with the system running xubuntu, but I can not see the system running xubuntu with the other systems.
[02:54] <eleek> no one knows what I am talking about?
[02:55] <Unit193> I did it a while back, but I wasn't listening when I was telling myself what I was doing :/
[02:55] <Unit193> Sounds like you want to get AND send files from that computer
[02:56] <eleek> right
[02:57] <Unit193> Well, if the others can already "see" your computer, you could just use Gigolo to connect to others
[02:58] <Sebastien> how can i put color in my banner /motd/ ?
[02:58] <Sebastien> this is fail
[02:59] <eleek> the xubuntu machine can not be seen at all
[02:59] <eleek> but on the xubuntu machine I can see all of the other computers
[03:00] <Sebastien> refresh the page on the new computers?
[03:00] <eleek> i have.. and I have tried to reboot the xubuntu machine.
[03:44] <Sebastien> how can i enable the root login account on xubuntu
[03:45] <Sebastien> i need it for winscp ( i use this to edit configs, its quicker and easier when i log on root@ from it )
[05:34] <openSSO> Good day everyone! Is there anyone who would be able to help me set up a working Single Sign-On (SSO) system for Apache2 and PHP5 on Xubuntu 11.10?
[05:35] <holstein> openSSO: you mean, one user?
[05:35] <holstein> you dont really need XFCE for that
[05:35] <holstein> i would probably do a server install, or minimal
[05:35] <holstein> the default is to get on user account
[05:36] <holstein> one*
[05:36] <openSSO> What I mean is... a server that hosts user accounts so that people who visit my website can use the same account for all parts of the site. I just need help with the server portion. I can probably configure my website systems (WordPress and Moodle) myself.
[05:36] <openSSO> authentication system
[05:36] <openSSO> like PAM or LDAP
[05:37] <holstein> might want to consider http://www.turnkeylinux.org/lampstack
[05:37] <holstein> something with webmin...
[05:38] <holstein> they have moodle and wordpress appliances
[05:39] <holstein> i do ssh key authentication
[05:39] <openSSO> ah okay I thought I already installed LAMP but I guess what I installed were actually just the Apache2, MySQL, and PHP5 packages all separate.
[05:41] <openSSO> hmm thing is though this looks like an operating system... I need to keep what I have now because I run Rivendell which is a radio station system.
[05:43] <holstein> openSSO: sure... you can also run those live, or in Virtualbox
[05:43] <holstein> you can do literally anything you want
[05:43] <openSSO> okay how do I run live?
[05:43] <holstein> i would start here
[05:43] <openSSO> is it like a program?
[05:43] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication
[05:44] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PAMConfigFrameworkSpec
[05:44] <holstein> i use ssh... what i mean by "live" is that you can run one of those turnkey appliances live
[05:44] <holstein> either for the project, or to just learn about how they have configured ubuntu
[05:45] <openSSO> ah okay
[06:02] <openSSO> I'm looking at Turnkey appliances and it isn't looking like something I want... I still don't think that... for example... if LAMP Wordpress and Moodle appliances were installed, and someone created an account on WordPress... that they could use that same account on Moodle. That's basically where I'm getting at... same account for all parts of the website (presently only WordPress and Moodle). I tried LDAP but it's for some reas
[06:03] <openSSO> ...I tried following LDAP guides too and it didn't work.
[06:06] <pleia2> LDAP is complicated and the applications have to be LDAP aware (I don't know about wordpress and moodle)
[06:06] <pleia2> what you're asking is not trivial, it's a complex problem
[06:10] <openSSO> WordPress has an LDAP authentication Module... as well as Moodle. I'm trying to do it over from scratch now.
[06:11] <pleia2> LDAP sounds like the way to go then, but the learning curve is steep :)
[06:21] <openSSO> nah LDAP won't work... it's saying that some credentials are invalid
[06:21] <openSSO> I typed everything correctly so I must have done something wrong
[09:46] <baizon> is there a tool (gui) with that i can watch the active connections (host: port)?
[09:49] <_Pete_> baizon: dont know about GUI but jnettop does that in textmode/console
[09:50] <baizon> yeah, got it with netstat
[11:25] <xubuntu182> hello
[11:25] <xubuntu182> is there anyone there?
[11:29] <oobiloz> i am here
[11:29] <xsl> can someone tell me plz where to look for help related to xubuntu and ltsp ?
[11:36] <olbi> yay, I have compiling latest ristretto for Xubuntu 11.10 :D looks cool :)
[11:38] <augustl> xsl: what's ltsp?
[11:38] <xsl> linux terminal server project
[11:39] <xsl> and i use ubuntu for ltsp-server
[11:39] <xsl> started to use xubuntu because i prefer xfce over gnome
[11:53] <go8765> can i use some command to see all ppa in my system?
[12:01] <csenger41> hello everyone
[12:50] <smjms> xfce doesn't have the option to lock screen?
[12:53] <TheSheep> xfce does have the option to lock the screen
[13:07] <augustl> oh nice, disabling the indicator plugins enables the notificaiton icons
[13:11] <go8765> smjms: xlock?
[13:43] <cYmen> hm..where does ubuntu store how to set up displays?
[13:43] <cYmen> I have to run xrandr to fix everything after every startup...
[13:55] <go8765> is this ppa good to update weechat? or i haveing problems with dependences https://launchpad.net/~number5/+archive/ppa
[14:32] <nanotube> cYmen: heh, i've made a little script in my ~/bin to set my displays, also have to run it after a reboot. that said... i don't reboot often. suspend is my friend. :)
[14:39] <cYmen> nanotube: in other words you tried to find out how to fix it and couldn't? :)
[14:41] <nanotube> cYmen: no i didn't really much try. making a one-line shell script using xrandr was easier. :)
[14:41] <nanotube> but there's something you can do in settings editor iirc.
[14:43] <nanotube> http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/12/how-to-dual-monitor-setup-on-xfce.html
[14:44] <nanotube> http://kenneho.net/2011/06/30/setting-up-dual-monitors-in-xubuntu-11-04-on-fujitsu-p7120/ <- appears to be the same technique... so i guess it works. :)
[14:46] <baizon> cYmen: try arandr
[15:03] <cYmen> nanotube: looks good, thanks
[15:06] <nanotube> np :)
[15:06] <xubuntu802> I need  an xubunto that can run in a pc with 64mb of ram
[15:08] <xubuntu802> help me
[15:58] <HannspreeUbuntu> Hello guys.
[15:59] <HannspreeUbuntu> I'm trying to install xubuntu in my laptop but installation process fails because i'm not sure exactly why.
[15:59] <HannspreeUbuntu> I finally was able to install the base system but without any functional packages. So I have only access to console.
[15:59] <ilkmgf> Hi everyone. Q: Does xubuntu 11.10 include clipman or another clipboard manager? I'm not finding it in the list of available panel plugins.
[15:59] <Thermi> hi, did you try it with another DVD/CD?
[16:00] <HannspreeUbuntu> I figured i need network to do the apt-get stuff and get my system to work.
[16:00] <Thermi> HannspreeUbuntu exactly.
[16:00] <HannspreeUbuntu> but my network uses static ip
[16:00] <Thermi> ilkmgf i'll take a look at my current install on my Laptop. Please wait
[16:00] <ilkmgf> Thermi, thanks a lot.
[16:00] <Thermi> HannspreeUbuntu do man ifconfig and use it to configure your ethernet interfaces
[16:01] <Thermi> type "man ifconfig" and read the manual :p
[16:02] <HannspreeUbuntu> Thermi, I'm following the serverguide network config on the ubuntu docs
[16:02] <HannspreeUbuntu> I just wanted to know if what I'm doing makes sense, I mean, even if my system is not functional, use apt-get to get it to work.
[16:03] <Thermi> HannspreeUbuntu do you want to install a desktop environment like XFCE or Gnome?
[16:03] <Thermi> and yes, you are doing a lot of sense.
[16:04] <Thermi> ilkmgf yes, clipman is installed
[16:04] <HannspreeUbuntu> Thermi, I want xfce.
[16:04] <HannspreeUbuntu> But I just ran into a problem
[16:04] <ilkmgf> Thermi, thanks. Guess I'll just apt-get it
[16:04] <Thermi> ilkmgf the packages "xfce4-climpan-plugin" and "xfce4-clipman"
[16:05] <Thermi> those are the ones you want
[16:05] <Thermi> HannspreeUbuntu tell us.
[16:05] <ilkmgf> Thanks~!
[16:05] <Thermi> np.
[16:05] <HannspreeUbuntu> Ahh, I retried the command and it work.
[16:05] <HannspreeUbuntu> I'm gonna follow the guide, hope it works.
[16:06] <HannspreeUbuntu> After I get network running, what command should I run? is there something like an apt-get install xubuntu-base?
[16:06] <Thermi> there is apt-get install xfce4
[16:06] <Thermi> it will install the standard xfce4 desktop environment
[16:07] <Thermi> install the recommendet plugins :p
[16:07] <Thermi> _üaclages
[16:07] <Thermi> *packages
[16:08] <HannspreeUbuntu> Cool, i usually unistall most programms xubuntu comes with when my installation is succesful anyway.
[16:08] <HannspreeUbuntu> Thank, Thermi
[16:08] <Thermi> no problem.
[16:08] <HannspreeUbuntu> I'll let you know if I run into another problem.
[16:08] <Thermi> i think it should also install synaptic
[16:08] <Thermi> then it should be much more comfortable :D
[16:09] <HannspreeUbuntu> whoa, that was quick.
[16:09] <HannspreeUbuntu> ran into problem, Thermi.
[16:09] <HannspreeUbuntu> when I do the rout command to set up my gateway
[16:09] <HannspreeUbuntu> i get SIOCADDRT: Not suck process
[16:10] <Thermi> wtf? :D
[16:10] <Thermi> i never encountered this
[16:10] <HannspreeUbuntu> No such*
[16:10] <Thermi> what is your gateway address?
[16:11] <HannspreeUbuntu> 130.104.85.126
[16:11] <Thermi> looks proper :D
[16:11] <Thermi> i'm sorry, but i can't help you with that error except for googling it and directing you to any advice i find
[16:12] <HannspreeUbuntu> Just did... found some sites
[16:14] <HannspreeUbuntu> Thermi, this page gives me a solution
[16:14] <HannspreeUbuntu> http://www.digitalsanctum.com/2009/03/22/solution-to-siocaddrt-no-such-process-on-ubuntu/
[16:15] <Thermi> k.
[16:15] <Thermi> :D
[16:15] <HannspreeUbuntu> the problem is that I don't even have nano installed and I can't edit the file
[16:15] <Thermi> i hope it works for you now
[16:15] <Thermi> try vi
[16:15] <HannspreeUbuntu> have it! never heard about it. :D
[16:15] <Thermi> it's a pretty difficult text editor :D
[16:16] <Thermi> but it can do a lot :p
[17:06] <HannspreeUbuntu> Thermi, i finally managed to get my laptop connected.
[17:06] <HannspreeUbuntu> but now when I do apt-get it asks me to put in a cd.
[17:07] <HannspreeUbuntu> I guess i have to change the software sources
[17:08] <Thermi> exactly
[17:08] <Thermi> comment out the cd with a # in front of it or delete the line entirely
[17:10] <HannspreeUbuntu> Thermi, which file?
[17:10] <Thermi> hm
[17:10] <Thermi> good question :D
[17:10] <charlie-tca> /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[17:11] <HannspreeUbuntu> it only has one line... the one with the cd.
[17:12] <Thermi> comment it out
[17:25] <smjms> how do I update fonts.conf? :I
[17:26] <charlie-tca> !fonts
[17:28] <Marzata> !kernel
[18:04] <Thermi> HannspreeUbuntu and?
[18:23] <lordjj> Anyone knows where I can find a small ASCII Art of a coin? :P
[18:38] <holstein> lordjj: i usually google for them.. you can make one from the GIMP easy enough if you have a picture you want to use
[18:38] <holstein> the GIMP or something online
[18:55] <TheSheep> lordjj: here is one for you (_) :)
[18:55] <TheSheep> lordjj: anotther one: o
[18:56] <lordjj> I ended up drawing these : http://paste.ubuntu.com/800913/ :P
[18:58] <holstein> lol... i like 0 personally
[19:00] <HannspreeUbuntu> Thermi, i'm trying to install again, this time it seems it will do a clean install.
[19:00] <nanotube> heh yea, 0 is pretty good. :)
[19:00] <HannspreeUbuntu> so problem solved, I guess.
[19:01] <holstein> lordjj: hey, i like those :)
[19:01] <lordjj> :P
[19:32] <tjingboem> i want to write soemthing to a SD card, but permission denied. How can i change that?
[19:47] <craigbass1976> With nautilus, I was able to view a remote directory via ssh.  Can I do this in Thunar?
[19:59] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: you have to mount it with sshfs (or gigolo if you prefer gui)
[20:00] <craigbass1976> TheSheep, http://roglev.info/?p=26  Like so?
[20:01] <TheSheep> yes, that works
[20:32] <craigbass1976> TheSheep, any idea why it changes ownership of the direcotiry I mounted it in to somethign else?  moultonlumber typically looks like this: drwxr-xr-x 2 craig craig    4096 2012-01-11 15:13 moultonlumber   After that command (sshfs) it looks like this: d????????? ? ?     ?           ?                ? moultonlumber
[20:35] <TheSheep> no idea, maybe it's trying to match the rights of the remote directory?
[20:41] <craigbass1976> TheSheep, same guy owns it, but UID is probvably different
[23:32] <Josse> Hello guys, my system is not detecting the battery, before reinstall it did. Does anyone have any idea why this could be??
[23:46] <Marzata> you battery in place?
[23:47] <Josse> Marzata, sure my lapton is running un battery now.
[23:47] <Josse> but no indicator
[23:49] <Josse> My power manager doesn't even let me tell it what to do when pc is running on battery.
[23:49] <Marzata> strange
[23:50] <Josse> Yeah. I guess I'll work on it tomorrow, it's late.
[23:50] <Josse> Thanks anyway.