[13:57] <dgroos> good morning!
[13:57] <dgroos> highvoltage: around?
[14:00] <outofhand1> hi, i wonder if anyone can assist me ?
[14:01] <outofhand1> i have just downloaded edubuntu11.10 onto dvd, and i wanna install in in my ubuntu 11.10
[14:01] <outofhand1> i cant get the dvd to install... do i have to install over my ubuntu (restaring my pc, and boot with edubuntu dvd )
[14:01] <outofhand1> ?
[14:03] <outofhand1> is there no way i can just install it (edubuntu ) off the dvd within Ububntu ?
[14:04] <dgroos> hi outofhand1
[14:04] <dgroos> seems that you can do that by setting your sources to use the dvd...
[14:05] <dgroos> do a sudo apt-get update
[14:05] <outofhand1> ok? after the apt-get update?
[14:05] <dgroos> and it will find the new packages...
[14:05] <dgroos> and then sudo apt-get upgrade.
[14:05] <dgroos> BUT...
[14:06] <outofhand1> dgoos  ,  also. where do i setup the source to dvd only ?>
[14:06] <dgroos> Wait a few minutes on the list here to see if someone adds to this conversation and improves my answer!
[14:07] <outofhand1> ok?
[14:07] <dgroos> To set up sources, wait, you are using Unity?
[14:08] <outofhand1> bare with me ... im a noob on Ubuntu... i downloaded and using ubuntu 11.10 new desktop
[14:10] <dgroos> If I were going to update my Ubuntu to Edubuntu, I wouldn't do it from the DVD, but would do it from the internet -- do you have an OK connection to the internet?
[14:10] <outofhand1> SA connection sux... 1 Mb
[14:12] <dgroos> You can tell the computer to add the edubuntu stuff from the Ubuntu Software Center--an application that lets you add/remove applications.  Do you know where this is?
[14:13] <dgroos> that is, how to open this application?
[14:14] <outofhand1> yeah i got that , thanks for that , what i wanna do is install the edubuntu on new installations of ubuntu pc's  the scenario is . i wanna install ubuntu on peoples pc. but they dont have internet, so i wanna install edubuntu packages from a dvd / cd
[14:16] <dgroos> I see.  What you need to do is then what I originally said.  Let's see if I can walk you through it. Is the DVD in the drive?
[14:16] <outofhand1> ideas?
[14:19] <outofhand1> yes it is
[14:20] <dgroos> open up the system application called something like, software sources
[14:20] <outofhand1> ok got it open
[14:21] <dgroos> There are 3 or 4 tabs available.  One of those tabs will have a list of sources where programs can be gotten from.
[14:22] <outofhand1> its all ticked
[14:22] <dgroos> find the tab that has this and one of them should show the Edubuntu CD or DVD.
[14:22] <outofhand1> its ticked
[14:22] <dgroos> including the cd/dvd?
[14:22] <dgroos> cool.
[14:23] <dgroos> It was that way before? or you just did it now?
[14:23] <outofhand1> it was already ticked
[14:23] <dgroos> OK, there should be something like an "Update" button, click it.
[14:24] <outofhand1> cdform"[edubuntu 11.10_oneiric ocelot]" was ticked ... all i got is .. (add..   or add volume) no upgrade
[14:24] <outofhand1> or update
[14:25] <dgroos> 'k close that and try opening the application, "Update Manager"
[14:26] <dgroos> Click on update there and see if that finds the apps on the DVD...
[14:26] <outofhand1> let me check
[14:27] <outofhand1> no . tells me there is no updates
[14:31] <dgroos> Hmmm... I've reached the limits of my over the net advise, hopefully someone can build on that.  Be patient as it can take a while for attention on this list. Also I would suggest further google of, "Edubuntu install software from CD"  Good luck.
[14:33] <outofhand1> many thanks for your help, hope ur new year is good one
[15:38] <highvoltage> hi dgroos
[15:45] <highvoltage> (bbl)
[17:09] <dgroos> ...and back!
[17:09] <dgroos> highvoltage: re-ping!
[17:21] <highvoltage> dgroos: repong
[17:32] <alkisg> dgroos: do you have the old certificate to check its date?
[17:35] <dgroos> in and out... and in!
[17:37] <dgroos> highvoltage: yesterday I was on the edubuntu.org site and looking for a page with an overview on LTSP and found it.
[17:38] <dgroos> Then I went looking specifically for info on fat clients as they are significantly different from thin clients both with respect to client/server hardware requirements and for usb support.
[17:39] <dgroos> And I found that there wasn't phat fat info.
[17:39] <alkisg> Yeah, that was the problem, that the certificates generated by openssl expire after 1 month by default. I guess we should post a how-to-fix-the-problem in the wiki, and also automatically generate a new certificate on postinst if the old one has expired
[17:42] <dgroos> I was envisioning something with thinclient info in 1 column and fat in the next.  Can I help with updating the page?
[17:43] <dgroos> hi alkisg :)
[17:43] <alkisg> Hello
[17:43] <dgroos> I tried to do the zero size files in server/client but didn't do the trick.
[17:44] <dgroos> I'll check the date right now...
[17:45] <alkisg> dgroos: I'd be interested to check your system, to verify that this is indeed the problem - with a shared vnc or socat screen
[17:46] <dgroos> hmmmm I tried to check the .crt file and saw no date in it.
[17:46] <dgroos> for sure, that would be great :D
[17:48] <alkisg> dgroos: x11vnc -noshm -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
[17:56] <dgroos> Thanks!
[17:56] <alkisg> dgroos: when it's done, reboot a client, and if it doesn't work, ping me
[17:56]  * alkisg left vnc...
[17:58] <dgroos> alkisg: Will do.  I won't be able to do this till after this teachers school day which is around 2:20 AM your time.  Probably better put an amplifier on the sound output to wake you ;)
[17:58] <dgroos> Or tomorrow later... :)
[17:58] <alkisg> Or send me a mail, if you can :)
[17:59] <alkisg> If that fixes it, I should update the wiki pretty soon
[17:59] <alkisg> To notify people that their certificates probably expired around christmas :-/
[17:59] <dgroos> perhaps I'll do that (mail) electronically to reduce ping time ;D
[17:59] <alkisg> Hehe
[17:59] <dgroos> For sure.
[17:59] <dgroos> I'll let you know.
[18:00] <dgroos> bbsoon...