[08:08] <koolhead11> hi all
[08:29] <koolhead11> is there a man page for juju? Or am missing something?
[08:34] <niemeyer> rog:
[08:34] <niemeyer> [ALIASES]
[08:34] <niemeyer> log = log --show-ids
[08:34] <niemeyer> in ~/.bazaar/bazaar.conf
[08:58] <koolhead11> hazmat: around?
[08:58] <hazmat> koolhead11, in body, spirit is questionable ;-), what's up?
[09:09] <koolhead11> hazmat: hahaha. there is no manpage for juju currently juju --help does has infos
[09:09] <koolhead11> any special reason 4 this :P
[09:09] <jcastro> hazmat: http://caseconductor.wordpress.com/
[09:10] <koolhead11> hola jcastro :)
[09:10] <jcastro> good morning!
[09:12] <koolhead11> jcastro: saw nice diagram explaining juju bootstrap process on askubuntu, why cant we have it in our official doc?
[09:12] <jcastro> oh really?
[09:12] <jcastro> link?
[09:12] <koolhead11> jcastro: hold on sir!! :P
[09:12] <jcastro> koolhead11: good point, hazmat, we should chat about docs
[09:13] <jcastro> hazmat: but maybe later today, heh
[09:13] <robbiew> jcastro: hey...do you have plans for a charm school at oscon?
[09:13] <koolhead11> jcastro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55179/what-is-the-purpose-of-the-bootstrapping-instance-in-juju
[09:13] <robbiew> cfp is today...you can submit for a 3-hour "tutorial"
[09:13] <jcastro> robbiew: yes, let's do that
[09:13] <jcastro> robbiew: what do I need to do?
[09:14] <robbiew> jcastro: http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/user/proposal/propose/cfp/197
[09:14] <robbiew> jcastro: adam_g lives in Portland, so he could help with the charm school
[09:14] <robbiew> SpamapS won't be *that* up for travel then ;)
[09:15] <SpamapS> Yeah, day trips only please
[09:15] <koolhead11> robbiew: am also registering a talk on juju at FOSS conference in India :) I am not confident about 3 hr show though :P
[09:15] <nijaba> m_3: using you nfs charm, I am hitting "#TODO fix oneiric package... install fails without this"
[09:16] <nijaba> m_3: any hint on what needs to be done?
[09:16] <koolhead11> hazmat: you think i should report a bug with *wishlist option sir? :D
[09:17] <koolhead11> for manpages
[09:18] <jcastro> robbiew: ok so how about adam_g/m_3/me for oscon?
[09:18] <jcastro> or is 3 too many?
[09:34] <SpamapS> charmers, I could use a quick review of this: https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/charm-tools/apparmor/+merge/88321
[09:34] <SpamapS> negronjl: ^^
[09:34] <negronjl> SpamapS: checking
[09:42] <negronjl> SpamapS: Just checked it and approved it.
[09:44] <SpamapS> negronjl: woot thanks
[09:46] <negronjl> m_3:  Can I take over this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm/+bug/803539
[09:46] <_mup_> Bug #803539: Charm Needed: GlusterFS <hot> <juju Charms Collection:In Progress by mark-mims> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/803539 >
[09:46] <hazmat> fwereade, please ignore the last line of my upstartify-services review
[09:47] <hazmat> it was a leftover comment from an initial pass
[09:47] <fwereade> hazmat, ah, ok, cool :)
[09:48] <hazmat> koolhead17, that sounds good, i think there already is a bug report regarding manpages..
[09:49] <hazmat> SpamapS, you did some work re manpages, is it just in the packaging?
[09:49]  * koolhead17 digs hard to see if there exist same bug :P
[09:49] <hazmat> i think we've given up on autogenerating the man pages from argparse internals madness
[09:54] <koolhead17> hazmat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/901017
[09:54] <_mup_> Bug #901017: Juju should have a "info" or "man" option <Juju Charm Tools:Triaged> <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/901017 >
[09:54] <koolhead17> nijaba: ^^
[09:55] <nijaba> koolhead17: oh, yes, I opened that a little while back
[09:56] <koolhead17> juju --help does gives some decent result :)
[09:58] <nijaba> koolhead17: but that bug is not the same as "juju needs a man entry", this is for juju to offer a man or info option for charms
[09:59] <koolhead17> nijaba: you want me to open one with a *wishlist option :P
[10:00] <nijaba> koolhead17: sure, go ahead
[10:03] <_mup_> Bug #915238 was filed: manpage needed for Juju <juju> <manpage> <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/915238 >
[10:16]  * hazmat sighs at name change diffs
[12:00] <_mup_> juju/ssh-known_hosts r484 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com
[12:00] <_mup_> Merged trunk
[12:01] <_mup_> juju/subordinate-docs r444 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com
[12:01] <_mup_> Initial checkin
[14:36] <secbrid> hi all, how would I include a file to be installed in a charm? I could use the cat >file<EOF but its quite a big file to be included in the install file
[14:37] <SpamapS> secbrid: just put it in the charm directory
[14:39] <secbrid> SpamapS: thanks, and then just cp it from `pwd`/filename to say /etc/moo/  ?
[14:40] <secbrid> actually cp filename /etc/moo/ should work, right?
[14:40] <SpamapS> secbrid: right
[14:40] <secbrid> neat! thanks!
[14:41] <SpamapS> secbrid: make sure that the license/copyright of this file is mentioned in the copyright file. :)
[14:41] <secbrid> ah yes! :-)
[16:16] <hazmat> rog, http://code.google.com/p/openpgm/
[16:18] <hazmat> jcastro, doc talk?
[17:47] <_mup_> Bug #915506 was filed: juju-log outputs {} on lxc <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/915506 >
[18:11] <_mup_> Bug #915520 was filed: locale is not set on lxc containers <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/915520 >
[20:49] <koolhead17> SpamapS: around
[23:01] <hazmat> SpamapS, it looks like lennart threatened the dbus thing in passing, but not for real (from dbus freedesktop ml conversation)
[23:26] <hazmat> SpamapS, looking over the last build log, something fishy it appears.. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/89795690/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-i386.juju_0.5%2Bbzr443-1juju2~precise1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[23:30] <hazmat> SpamapS, i'm starting to suspect this is to do with a missing dep around ssl
[23:30] <hazmat> those tests that fail do need openssl for certs validation afaicr
[23:31] <hazmat> interesting that its no longer manifesting as a timeout problem