[00:00] calligra in beta ppa needs testing [00:00] also in 1.2.3, but the tech board seems to have ignored my micro release exception request [00:00] Any headway for KMail? [00:01] I've switched back to T-Bird [00:01] JontheEchidna: did you just post to the mailing list? for the kubuntu lts issue we had to add it to the agenda ourselves [00:01] oh, didn't know that [00:01] JontheEchidna: yes it's not what they document but it seems they don't have a habit of making an agenda [00:02] Darkwing: headway how? [00:02] It wont update and just sits there with loading... instead of my messages. [00:02] It's gone from pesky to totally unusable. [00:04] dunno then, it works for my simple test cases but I don't use it heavy [00:04] Yeah, it seems to hate me after 10K emails or so [00:04] Riddell and JontheEchidna: Or add it to the agenda yourself, but then you have to show up at the meeting. [00:04] The only reason Kubuntu LTS got on the agenda was I added it. [00:19] holy cow, Riddell! That's one heck of a buildlog, and I certainly didn't see any of those errors during the i386 build - I got the typedef warnings, but no actual errors [00:30] BarkingFish: can you put it into your PPA, if it works there I'll probably build it for !arm [00:31] sure, probably won't be tonight, I'm about to pack my stuff up and get off to bed. I'll do it first thing in the morning :) [00:38] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/calligra-2.3.86 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [03:48] Riddell: I think we can close my graph work item, now that I made the 4.8 one SVG, you can search it, which makes it ~ok [03:56] oh kay [03:56] yofel: y u no sleep? [03:56] I just woke up, good morning ;) [03:57] GOOD MORNING DEAR YOFEL! [03:57] there, now you are awake for sure [03:57] woohoo [03:58] :D [03:58] now we can play online chess [08:40] Riddell: Thanks for packaging Calligra B6! FWIW I briefly blogged about it as well: http://www.thebluemint.net/2012/01/calligra-24-beta-6-is-out-kubuntu-gets.html (also downloading it now :) [09:35] qtcreator works randomly again o.O [09:35] * bambee probably passed through a space warp... or he's dreaming... === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:35] hiya [15:36] I'm organising Ubuntu Developer Week right now - is anyone interested in doing anything Qt-y or KDE-y? [15:36] this time we have 30m slots, so you either go for 1h sessions or present a shorter topic [15:36] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable is the preliminary schedule [15:55] dholbach: hey, I'm the guy working on testing and Qt using Testability. I heard you were asking for me? [15:58] greyback: he was after Ubuntu Developer Week talks [15:58] greyback: what's Testability? [15:58] Riddell: Yep I gave a short talk at the Ubuntu Dev week (just now actually) [15:59] Riddell: it's an automated UX testing system, specifically for Qt apps [16:02] greyback, we're at the rally, no u dev week ;) [16:02] Saviq: gah, me and names... [16:02] greyback, and he wasn't asking for you specifically, I did ;) [16:02] I just thought it's a great thing to talk about [16:03] Saviq: I do too. I'm here to please :) [16:03] greyback: oh well a talk about that would be very interesting to me [16:04] does it compare to Froglogic Squish? [16:04] hey greyback :) [16:04] here's what I said earlier: [16:04] I'm organising Ubuntu Developer Week right now - is anyone interested in doing anything Qt-y or KDE-y? [16:04] this time we have 30m slots, so you either go for 1h sessions or present a shorter topic [16:04] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable is the preliminary schedule [16:04] (before you joined the channel) [16:05] Riddell: I considered Squish, and it's very poweful, but Testability is almost equivalent in many ways, and superior in otheres [16:05] dholbach: Hi! Thanks for the catch up [16:05] dholbach: yeah I could take up 30 of those minutes :) [16:05] greyback, you are a hero [16:06] dholbach: I'll add myself to the page [16:06] greyback, which date and time would suit you? which title would you like to have? [16:06] ah ok [16:06] even better :) [16:06] np [16:07] anybody seen this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/915235 [16:07] Ubuntu bug 915235 in muon (Ubuntu) "muon-installer crash" [Undecided,New] [16:08] I've not touched muon at all in oneiric since oneiric's release and suddenly yesterday I get a crash with 20 dupes [16:12] hum, I got an authorisation error when installing from muon [16:12] which doesn't help answer this question [16:14] check if /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1 is running [16:15] that issue usually means that it has crashed [16:31] JontheEchidna: it's not [16:31] it's not even installed [16:33] JontheEchidna: installs fine once polkit-kde installed [16:33] no log of why it would be uninstalled [17:03] * shadeslayer upgrades to precise === KRF is now known as kfunk [17:28] Riddell: usually happens if you install ubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop, pokit-kde-1 isn't pulled in [17:28] *polkit-kde-1 === kfunk is now known as krf [17:30] yo-fel :D === krf is now known as KRF [17:34] maybe we should seed polkit-kde-1 directly [17:36] yeah probably a good idea [17:36] or have muon depend on it [17:41] muon has an alternate dep on polkit-kde-1 and the gnome one, so rather add that to kubuntu-desktop [17:42] ok [17:42] or I think it had it... [17:42] JontheEchidna: ^ ? [17:43] yeah, it does [17:43] apt-cache show muon does not mention it in oneiric [17:45] oh, that's because it's libqapt-runtime that has the dependency [17:50] yeah: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/kde/libqapt-runtime [17:50] oh I see, I probably have ubuntu desktop installed on here and maybe at some point I did an uninstall of qt/kde bits and it didn't get installed back [17:50] I'll add it to the seed [18:02] brb [18:03] Riddell: sorry I haven't uploaded the libapogee2 package yet, I mislaid it this morning, couldn't find it, and I've been busy. I'm rebuilding the package now, I'll upload asap [18:14] anyone up for a quick refresher for me? [18:15] BarkingFish: refresher of what? [18:15] I looked through my course from quintasan, and it's not there - how do I push packages up to my PPA? I've got packages from one before, never sent *to* one though :) [18:16] BarkingFish: do you have a signed package? [18:17] yes [18:17] BarkingFish: can you paste the .changes file so I can make sure? paste.kde.org [18:18] sure. I've not amended anything though, and the last signature on it was you I think! [18:18] give me a sec [18:20] this is the last changes file that was with it - http://paste.kde.org/185678/ [18:20] way back to 2009 [18:22] BarkingFish: so you need to add a changelog entry, do a source build and sign it, and upload to your PPA (assuming your PPA is active) [18:22] if you don't know how to do that I can take you through it (but I'm a bit slow these days) [18:23] I have got a ppa, there's just nothing in it right now :) [18:23] give me a mo, I'll go do the changelog entry and rebuild it, and be back to you in a moment or three [18:26] I have to sign this now, don't I? [18:27] yes [18:27] i don't know about slow. If I get much slower I'll be moving backwards :P [18:27] debsign -kme@mykey.com *sourcea.changes [18:28] ok [18:30] if you run debuild -S it'll automatically asks you to sign it at the end [18:31] BarkingFish: I'm away from my computer for a bit, if you need any questions answered just text me I'm not far (jriddell.org/contact.html) [18:31] it's ok Riddell - I can bug someone else till you get back :) [18:31] * yofel feels like he's out of glass [18:31] transparent existence [18:32] :P [18:32] yofel: I'm rebuilding the source now, i think. [18:32] I'm so lost since I clouted my head I couldn't find my fanny in daylight with a satnav and a torch... [18:32] debuild -S will build a new source package, if that's what you did [18:32] it's not [18:32] what did you do? [18:33] sudo pbuilder build ../lib*.dsc from inside the source [18:33] ah no, that builds binaries - we explicitely don't want those [18:33] more like launchpad rejects them [18:33] * BarkingFish bangs his head on his desk to see if he can knock any sense back in [18:34] ok, can I ctrl-c this then and get on with the right thing? [18:34] yes, pbuilder is for building local binaries - meaning making sure it will build in the PPA [18:34] so I just run debuild -S from where - inside the source folder? [18:34] right [18:34] ok [18:35] that'll make a new .dsc and .changes and ask you to sign them [18:36] well this is fun [18:37] i better go back a step - what's the doodad for making an entry in the changelog semi-automatically? [18:37] dch -i [18:37] I tried debuild -S but it's telling me that it can't find my secret key :P [18:37] and fix the version to what you want [18:37] ok [18:38] for dch to work properly, you'll need to have this in your .bashrc: [18:38] export DEBFULLNAME='Philip Muškovac' [18:38] export DEBEMAIL='yofel@kubuntu.org' [18:39] make sure those match with whatever you entered in your gpg key [18:43] ah fgs. [18:44] I've got that in my .bashrc - but debsign is refusing to sign, it still says it can't find my secret key [18:44] you do see your key with gpg --list-keys ? [18:45] yep. I may be doing it wrong though. [18:45] My key shows me as Thorsteinn A Malmjursson (BarkingFish) [18:45] ah, then your DEBFULLNAME needs to be: "Thorsteinn A Malmjursson (BarkingFish)" [18:45] The changes in the log only show My first name, middle initial and last name. Does the (BarkingFish) need to be there too? [18:45] You're psychic [18:46] it has to be there - for some reason [18:46] you can select your key with DEBSIGN_KEYID="0x" in ~/.devscripts [18:47] hm, true [18:49] yay! [18:49] done [18:49] now I can go onto the next step... I just have to remember what it was :) [18:50] dput ppa:... whatever.changes [18:50] I also have to put the packages up there as well, john wanted them [18:52] anything that needs doing? [18:54] yofel: So when it comes to the ppa, what is the full address of the ppa I need to put the packages and the .changes into? [18:55] ppa:/ [18:55] nvm, just found the ppa and it tells me :) [18:55] https://launchpad.net/~lightningstrike35/+archive/ppa [18:55] the instructions for sticking stuff into it are there already :) [18:55] Any ETA for Qt 4.8? [18:57] iirc that's in some PPA [18:58] Oh, where? I can try and package qt-at-spi then [18:59] shadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/~fboudra/+archive/qt/+packages [18:59] but that seems to already be there too ^^ [18:59] yofel: while these packages rebuild, I'm gonna put my dinner on to cook, and then get them rammed up onto the ppa for Riddell. I'll be back in about 10 minutes or so [18:59] k [18:59] thx [18:59] Derp, someone already packaged it [19:08] shadeslayer: Plenty to do: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-kubuntu.html [19:09] okay === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [19:16] afiestas: poke [19:16] aw this is getting right on my whotsits now. [19:18] right. I signed the changelog, signed the changes, everything I'm supposed to do I've done, yofel - and what do I get? I get told I'm supposed to put the .sig or .asc file as the first file on the command line. [19:18] I am gonna scream in a minute :( [19:19] who tells you that? [19:19] the command line [19:19] which command? [19:20] dput ppa:lightningstrike35/ppa blahetc.source.changes [19:20] I get this back: "Please remember that the signature file (.sig or .asc) should be the first file given on the command line" [19:20] you did do: dch -> debuild -S -> dput? [19:21] yup [19:21] ... [19:26] * BarkingFish is a sad panda. goes to have dinner and sit in the naughty corner. [19:26] See you guys in a bit [19:31] shadeslayer: pong [19:31] afiestas: Could you point me to your bluetooth keyboard app? [19:31] I couldn't find it ... [19:31] bluedevil? [19:32] Uhh ... yeah, the blue prints have a task that says that your keyboard app needs packaging [19:32] "[kubuntu-members] package afiestas' first boot bluetooth keyboard app and integrate with live CD: TODO" [19:32] aah ! [19:32] but that's for the installer ! [19:32] i don't have it here but I can send it to you tomorrow [19:32] ups not tomorrow, next Monday [19:33] Sure no problem [19:33] We also need to ship some sane keyboard bindings for Mac users @_@ [19:34] bindings? for mac? [19:34] shorcuts? [19:34] afiestas: yep, like Alt+F2 is really difficult seeing how you have to use Fn to enable F2 [19:34] So it becomes something like : Alt + fn + F2 [19:35] But then the same key is used for brightness controll without F2 [19:35] *control [19:40] shadeslayer: so that thing of afiestas' needs packaging and somehow integrating with the installer, I guess put it in the right seed and make sure it has an autostart [19:41] Okay, it's just that I couldn't even find the sources to try it out myself ;) [19:42] well that's the first task [21:20] http://i.imgur.com/LYGPD.png [21:20] bbl [21:51] Hi guys, sorry about walking out earlier. I was just depressed and a bit pissed at not getting stuff to work. [21:52] np, welcome back [21:53] no point getting more frustrated [21:53] yeah, I know [21:53] Anyway, I managed to sign the changes, rebuild the package, and I've sent the source.changes to the ppa, or at least, I thought I had. They've not shown up in my ppa. [21:54] did you get a rejection mail? [21:54] BarkingFish: can you pastebin the .changes file? [21:55] yofel: no, I'll show you what I got [21:55] http://paste.ubuntu.com/802295/ [21:55] that was the output from the dput command, so according to that, it's gone [21:55] and I'll paste the changes up for you now, Riddell [21:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/802298/ [21:56] how long has it been since you uploaded? [21:57] about 5 - 6 minutes [21:57] i have no idea how long it takes [21:58] about 5min usually, it's a cron job IIRC [21:58] does it actually keep the changes file in the ppa, or does the system try to build it, then put the output in your ppa? [21:59] it puts the sources you uploaded in the PPA, then builds it and adds the binaries [22:00] I assume giving your ppa a name doesn't change where you upload to, perchance, does it? [22:00] https://launchpad.net/~lightningstrike35/+archive/ppa - When i set it up, I was asked to give it a title, so I did. [22:00] that's the display name, doesn't matter [22:01] the relevant name here is 'ppa' [22:01] ok, then I'm stuck. afaict according to paste 802295, it's gone up. [22:01] Where it's gone, however, is a bloody mystery :P [22:03] hm, about now you should either have it show up or get an error mail [22:04] hold on then, i'll check my incoming email [22:05] oh bugger [22:05] Rejected [22:05] i put 2 l's at the start of my ppa address :P [22:06] at least you know it arrived ;P [22:07] yep, it's now been sent to the right ppa, i had to force it though, cause i got told it'd already been uploaded :) [22:07] rm *upload [22:07] will sort hat [22:07] it makes a .upload file to record what you have uploaded [22:07] so just remove it if you need to upload again [22:08] ah, ok. Thanks. All i did was put it through again but with dput -f before the ppa address [22:10] woohoo! [22:11] [PPA lightningstrike35] [ubuntu/precise] libapogee2 2.2-0ubuntu2 (Accepted)‏ [22:11] * BarkingFish puts on his best irish accent and dances a jig around his office [22:17] BarkingFish: want some easy earned karma? [22:18] I'd love some. Mine has been depleting slowly for months [22:18] :P [22:18] digikam needs a rebuilt in precise (bug 913038) [22:18] Launchpad bug 913038 in digikam (Ubuntu) "digikam from precise repositories is compiled against old marble shared library" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/913038 [22:19] ok, lemme read said bug [22:19] add a changelog with "No change rebuild against new libmarblewidget LP: #913038" [22:19] make a debdiff (I'll tell you how) [22:19] and get Riddell to upload that [22:20] er, ok. [22:20] lemme pull the source [22:22] you can also give me the debdiff to review and .dsc and .changes files to sign then you can upload [22:26] well I can't rebuild it, yet - I got some errors which I don't quite understand, I'll paste them up [22:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/802346/ [22:27] you don't have pkg-kde-tools installed [22:27] right - hold on and I'll give it another shot :) [22:30] ok yofel - if you can tell me how to do this debdiff please, I'll get that done too. I've nearly got everything done so I'll have the new dsc in a moment and the .changes file too, and be able to sign them off [22:31] debdiff > newversion.debdiff [22:31] BarkingFish: debdiff is easy: debdiff old.dsc new.dsc > somename.diff [22:32] ok, no problem. And then finally, once the changes are done, where do I upload them to? My ppa again, or somewhere else? [22:32] BarkingFish: can you pastebin the debdiff please? [22:33] give me a mo, debuild -S is still going through lintian :P [22:37] yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/802362/ [22:37] Riddell: ^ [22:37] * yofel is off to bed - good night [22:38] ok [22:38] night yofel :) [22:38] BarkingFish: that's fine, want to pastebin the .dsc and .changes too? [22:38] sure [22:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/802364/ <- dsc http://paste.ubuntu.com/802365/ <- source.changes [22:41] lets see [22:42] BarkingFish: those are signed [22:43] I need them unsigned so I can sign them [22:43] debuild -S -us -uc [22:43] ah. So I need to do that again? [22:44] BarkingFish: yes please [22:45] normally I'd download, use your debdiff and rebuild but trying this as a new way in the hope it might be less of a burden [22:46] it just seemed a bit odd, I altered the changelog but you need to sign it :) [22:46] so you can upload it but launchpad knows it's signed by me that it's ok to accept [22:47] if we get bored of signing it you can apply for kubuntu-dev [22:47] hmm wonder if that fabo poll got anywhere [22:47] so how does that work? Do some packages need signing by an authorised person then? [22:48] all packages needed signing by an ubuntu dev if it's uploaded to ubuntu [22:48] else anyone could upload and you wouldn't know to trust what you were running === markey is now known as mKretschmann [22:49] uploading to your person ppa needs signed by you, so I can't upload to your ppa [22:49] personal [22:51] aha [22:53] right, these should be correct now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/802382/ is the dsc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/802384/ is the source.changes both (god willing) unsigned :) [22:58] Riddell: The other thing you mentioned, about applying for kubuntu-dev - how do I do that and what kind of things do I need to have done before applying? [23:00] qtwebkit-source finally started building! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+packages [23:00] BarkingFish: you need to have very good experience and knowledge of packaging [23:00] well that lets me out :) [23:01] I guess I'll just keep handing them over to you and we go from there [23:02] bear in mind that what I've done tonight is only the 5th package I've ever put together or tested, and actually got done [23:02] BarkingFish: starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/secret/digi1.asc [23:02] starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/secret/digi2.asc [23:02] download those [23:02] I was helping ScottK on the testing for oneiric, but there wasn't a whole lot to do there [23:02] give them the right names [23:02] dput ubuntu <.changes file> [23:03] there's always lots of to but right enough some of it needs you to already have experience [23:03] just keep doing things and you'll get experienced :) [23:04] so which of those files is which? [23:04] http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/secret/digi1.asc is .changes file [23:04] http://paste.ubuntu.com/802384/plain/ .dsc file [23:04] this may not work [23:05] we can but try [23:05] now where do I upload them to? [23:05] more reliable if it's on a machine I can ssh into (like an ec2 machine) to use debsign directly which is the command that makes sure you're doing it right [23:05] ubuntu! [23:05] dput ubuntu <.changes file> [23:07] ok [23:07] declined [23:08] gpg: Signature made Thu 12 Jan 2012 23:01:44 GMT using DSA key ID DD4D5088 [23:08] gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found [23:08] Error verifying signature on /home/thor/digikam_2.4.1-0ubuntu3_source.changes [23:08] hmm something wrong then [23:09] BarkingFish: shall we try with an ec2 or shall I just apply the patch and upload? [23:09] just apply the patch and do the upload I think [23:14] BarkingFish: uploaded! [23:15] excellent. [23:16] just checked my ppa, the file I sent is waiting in there for build, which apparently won't happen for 6 hours! [23:18] ppas are so slow jus tnow [23:18] dunno why [23:19] it's got a high-ish build score, i guess there are other packages out there which need doing faster [23:19] they're just done in upload order for the most part [23:19] but uploads to ubuntu are more important than ppas [23:21] Oh well, I'll sit on my hands and find out how it goes in about 6 hours then, or most likely when I get up in the morning :) [23:22] anyway, since I'm now at a loose end and have about 50 minutes before I depart for bed, is there anything else you need doing which is ok for me to sign off and put in my ppa? [23:28] BarkingFish: check if we are in sync with debian for strigi [23:30] Ok, how do I do that? [23:30] packages.debian.org [23:30] launchpad.net [23:30] check what we have, check what they have [23:30] ok [23:33] from what I can gather, it looks like they're a version behind us [23:33] They have 0.7.6-2 in testing at the moment, we have that stable from Oneiric onwards [23:34] ok, discount that. Sorry - i was reading it wrongly. We're potentially a version *behind*, not ahead [23:35] We have 0.7.6-2 in stable from Oneiric, and the same in Precise - they're on 0.7.7-1 in testing if I'm reading this right [23:36] it's precise we care about [23:36] so we want to sync that new version [23:36] please file a sync bug request [23:36] subscribe ubuntu-archive I think [23:36] and ping here with the number [23:41] ok [23:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/strigi/+bug/915699 [23:44] Ubuntu bug 915699 in strigi (Ubuntu) "sync strigi to debian version (0.7.7-1)" [Undecided,New] [23:44] no idea what I should have put in it, so i've put what I thought I should have [23:44] I'll subscribe to the ubuntu-archive now [23:45] and I'm subscribed there [23:47] mailing list? I don't think that's very interesting, it's all automatic notices i think [23:48] oh giblets. I misunderstood what you posted :P [23:48] I'm so thick I'd blunt a machete [23:49] I'm asleep now, thanks for helping [23:49] I just went back to do it and you'd already done it :) [23:49] ok Riddell - have a good night