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verto_hi all00:04
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Riddellhttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/calligra-2.3.8600:42
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cmomanany one here have issues with their machine not turning off after hitting shutdown. even shutdown -h -P now from the command line doesn't work. all the processes stop but the machine doesn't actually power down.  An ASUS F3T laptop circa 2007.01:10
cmomanrunning Kubuntu Oneric01:11
lethucmoman, suggest looking that up in the ubuntu official forum's01:11
cmomanyep, trawled lots of places, installed older kernels, played around with power management settings.01:12
cmomaninstalled different distos, looked through loads of dmesg logs. the machine behaved fine before Oneric01:13
cmomanHunty6: have you checked your downloaded install image is all good?  The alternative CD can help here sometimes too01:16
lethucmoman, sorry can't help you here, I have no knowledge of this issue01:19
lethubut, I confirm that there are similar issues in Kubuntu01:20
lethulike for example if I set the laptop lid to switch off when closed while have kde's screensaver runing, it locks my computer and forces me to do a manual poweroff01:21
cmomanlethu: did you mean Ubunutu?01:21
lethucmoman, nope Kubuntu01:21
lethuthe Kde variant01:21
cmomanlethu: yes, even hibernate no longer works on my machine01:21
lethusame, I just don't use suspend to ram and hibernate01:22
cmomanI really like the improvements to KDE with 4.7 etc and Kontact but there aren't available on Lucid AFAIK01:23
lethutoo bad01:24
cmomanI can live with hibernate and suspend but the not shutting down is becoming a niggle01:24
lethuI understand that01:25
cmomanI meant "I can live without  hibernate and suspend but the not shutting down is becoming a niggle"01:25
EvilResistanceis there any way to have KDE unlock the GNOME keyring on boot/login, as well as the KDE keyrings?01:45
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almoxarifeEvilResistance: yes, add gnome-keyring to startup-apps, its a user app aint it?03:01
EvilResistancedunno, i can check on that though03:03
Mac-azzonOnce you were in this chan 800 user03:16
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firstlasthello all05:23
what_ifhello05:24
firstlasthow do I replace the default 'radeon' driver in Oneiric with 'fglrx'05:24
what_ifopen the "K" menu and type driver at the search box. Should bring up a tool called "additional drivers"05:25
what_iffirstlast: if you have that installed... That GUI app is the easiest and best way05:25
firstlastwhat_if: X won't start for me, so I'm in the root console in recovery mode05:25
what_ifoh, I see. thats a whole different story05:26
firstlastwhat_if: I've done 'sudo apt-get install fglrx' and it ran through its paces, but on reboot, no dice05:26
firstlastwhat_if: yes, I have a HD Radeon 677005:26
what_iffirstlast: what error is there in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file ??05:27
what_ifshould tell you why X faild to start05:27
firstlastwhat_if: good point, it says: Failed to load module fglrx, module does not exist05:28
firstlastwhat_if: I thought installing it from apt-get would enable the driver and do al that hmm05:29
firstlastwhat_if: my ultimate goal is to use this driver to power 3 monitors through Eyefinity05:29
what_iffirstlast: it should have worked automatically.... Something did not work out properly if the module is not found.05:30
firstlastwhat_if: if the regular radeon driver does it as well, i can stay with that, since I never play games....do you know if the open source driver can power 3 monitors as well?05:30
firstlastwhat_if: ok let me try again05:30
what_iffirstlast: reading online states that you may need to do a "   sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx*   "05:31
what_iffirstlast: then "  sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri fglrx-modaliases   "05:31
what_iffirstlast: then "   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  "05:32
firstlastwhat_if: isn't that the opposite way though? replacing fglrx with the mesa driver05:32
firstlastwhat_if: i wish to do the converse: replace the open source mesa/radeon with fglrx05:32
what_iffirstlast: sry about that. You should still purge the fglrx packages then reinstall them.05:34
firstlastwhat_if: ok thanks, let me try05:34
what_ifI have had the problem before where a proprietary driver is installed under one kernel... then the kernel is updated.  The driver thenn only exists for the old kernel. Must purge and reinstall to the updated/newer kernel :)05:36
what_ifoh... and ensure "" fglrx-modaliases  "" is installed05:37
flexiblewhat_if: is there anyway to automate that process? i have to recompile my wireless drivers everytime i update the kernel and it is becoming tiresome...05:38
what_ifflexible: you can make apt run any program you like after running an installation. However, as far as I know there is no easy way to do what you ask. You would have to custom write a script which mimics the manual steps you take.05:39
flexiblewhat_if: so if i wrote a basic bash script (essentially cd'ing into the soure directory, make'ing then make install'ing) then i could have that executed by apt before reboot and after the kernel upgrade?05:41
flexiblewill this compile with the correct linux release?05:41
what_ifflexible: you could do it with a bash script. Getting it to compile against the correct kernel... when you are not currently running that kernel is possible... but I do not know how to do it. :)05:42
what_iffirstlast: any luck?05:47
firstlastwhat_if: it seems to have installed it, i was able to load the module with 'modprobe fglrx' in my root shell05:48
firstlastwhat_if now to reboot and see if X starts05:48
what_ifallright. I will be here. Good luck :005:48
what_if:)05:48
fabijanddh05:49
fabijanhi05:49
firstlastwhat_if: ugh, same problem, on picking the non-recovery mode option in Grub, it showed me the welcome screen and then the monitors turned off05:55
firstlastno signal05:55
firstlastwhat_if: maybe my xorg.conf is faulty05:55
what_iffirstlast: whats the /var/log/Xorg.0.log error this time?05:55
firstlastwhat_if: rebooting now05:56
what_iffirstlast: if you have an xorg.conf ... rename it to something else temporarily. Restarting the 'kdm' service should generate a new xorg.conf05:57
what_if... by restarting X,org...05:57
firstlastwhat_if: same thing05:57
firstlastwhat_if: oh ok, let me try that05:57
firstlastwhat_if: i'll rename it and then try 'startx' eh05:58
firstlastwhat_if: wow it's showing me the same screen on all 3 monitors, mind you, i started it as root from the root shell05:59
firstlastwhat_if: also, this is with the radeon driver05:59
what_iffirstlast: awesome. At least X is working now.05:59
firstlastwhat_if: ok should i reboot as a regular user now?06:00
what_iffirstlast: yeah, try a reboot. It may have been the old config file screwing things up...06:00
firstlastwhat_if: ok06:00
firstlastwhat_if: sweet, KDE is now up as regular user, 3 screens triplicated, but one step at a time I guess06:05
what_iffirstlast: awesome :)06:05
firstlastwhat_if: uh no widgets, taskbar, K button, nothing though, just the blank background....hmm06:05
what_iffirstlast: thats odd....06:06
firstlastwhat_if: Alt-tab shows me the 5 apps running in the background, but they won't show up when I select them, how odd06:06
firstlastwhat_if: ahh i crashed plasma and all my apps showed for a sec before it restarted, wth06:07
what_iffirstlast: yeah... plasma is not yet perfect.06:07
firstlastwhat_if: wow completely unusable is more like it :P06:08
firstlastwhat_if: how do I disable plasma, I guess?06:08
firstlastwhat_if: perhaps I should focus on getting my xinerama or whatever working first, i guess06:10
what_ifdo not know how to disable plasma.06:10
firstlastwhat_if: ok no worries06:10
what_ifyou may also want to try disabling all desktop effects.06:10
firstlastwhat_if: maybe I should use the Restricted Drivers Manager now and get fglrx06:10
what_iffirstlast: good call06:11
firstlastwhat_if: or just from the command line as before06:11
what_ifthe GUI tool is probably best.06:11
firstlastwhat_if: since i don't have the K Menu and don't know how to launch the gui from the command line06:11
what_ifhmmm... yeah. What an odd problem06:12
what_ifcommandline it is06:12
firstlastwhat_if: ah it's 'systemsettings' in the cmd line06:14
joshwinesHey all, quick question, is there anybody running Kubuntu 12.04 and finding it stable enough for a daily machine?06:15
cjaeis there not a control module for ufw fiewall for kde 4?06:16
cjaeive read about it but only see gufw06:16
firstlastwhat_if: actually, i was able to unify all 3 displays, so that's perfect06:18
firstlastwhat_if: now to reboot and hope Plasma behaves nicely06:18
* what_if crosses fingers06:19
what_if:)06:19
firstlastwhat_if: same Plasma problem, damn06:26
what_iffirstlast: I have no idea on the plasma problem.06:26
firstlastwhat_if: and also, all 3 screens are the same again, it didn't save my changes, sure hope I don't have to set the screens to be to the left and right of each other after every boot06:26
firstlastwhat_if: launching systemsettings as root now06:28
firstlastwhat_if: i just realized that might be a bad idea, but doing it as a reg user doesn't let it stick hmm06:30
what_iffirstlast: I have to change my screen setup every thime I reboot here... using the Nvidia driver. If you find an an easy fix, let me know :)06:31
what_ifbut then again I change my setup multiple times a day depending on what I'm doing... so no big deal for me06:31
firstlastwhat_if: well, you usually set the screens to the left and right of each other in xorg.conf, but that file doesn't even exist here06:31
cjaeis there not a control module for ufw fiewall for kde 4?06:33
what_iffirstlast: looks like you may need to run ' Xorg -configure ' to generate an xorg.conf file.06:34
firstlastwhat_if: ah, sweet, lemme try06:34
what_iffirstlast: by default, the new Xorg autodetects everything fresh, and remembers nothing :/06:34
firstlastwhat_if: serious? that sounds idiotic...06:35
what_iffirstlast: welll... I semi-agree. For the non-tech user this is an amazing benefit. Unplug old monitor, replace with new. Xorg auto configures.06:40
what_iffor multi monitor setups... like you and I... its a PITA...06:40
firstlastwhat_if: yes, especially 3 monitors, which is a whole other level of PITA-ness06:40
firstlastwhat_if: i take it all back, it remembered and all 3 are in a row from L-R as I'd configured06:41
firstlastwhat_if: thank you for all your help, you've been awesome :)06:42
what_iffirstlast: no problem. I don't sleep as much as is "normal" so I'm glad to help. Gives me something to do, keeps me in-practice06:42
what_if:)06:43
firstlastwhat_if: haha cool, ok i'm crashing now, been a long day, night06:43
what_ifgnight06:43
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uofm49426hello just install kubuntu 11.1008:31
uofm49426running on a led 22 inch tv08:32
thinhhoanghi, please help. ibus is not running on GTK+ based applications such as firefox.08:32
thinhhoangtried .bashrc, still no luck.08:33
uofm49426even at 1360 x 768 i cant see any text08:33
uofm49426how do i change text size08:34
thinhhoanghow do you get ibus work on Kubuntu?08:41
saurabh_Dh09:20
lokifaerbonjour à tous09:35
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noxisThe last update has made kde extremely unstable... again10:00
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AaisleE;10:12
phoenix_firebrdi am using the onboard intel gma x4500 graphics card. Google earths needs libgl.so, what is the package i need to install to get the libgl.so11:02
ts2phoenix_firebrd: libgl1-mesa-glx I'd guess11:07
phoenix_firebrdts2: that package is installed, but in muon, the list of installed files shows nothing11:08
ts2phoenix_firebrd: same here, but "dpkg -L libgl1-mesa-glx" shows them11:11
ts2guess it's a bug in muon11:11
phoenix_firebrdts2: let me check that11:11
phoenix_firebrdts2: i got it, thats solved the problem11:14
phoenix_firebrdts2: thank you11:14
ts2no problem11:14
yon__hellowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww12:00
yon__ater  i click log-out or restart or shutdown the background turns black and a confirmation button again asks me for aproval12:01
yon__it doesn't look good12:02
FloodBotK3!netsplit12:06
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit12:06
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oracleoftruthHi. Having a problem with CD-R. May be the disc but thought I would check. CD will not mount; getting an error saying13:38
oracleoftruthThe kernel driver for this filesystem type is not available.: Error mounting: mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so13:38
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napsterHow to tell this mother fucking Amarok that don't use my internet connection without asking me? He download what ever he wants x-(14:51
Galbahi15:12
Galbasomeone here who can help me with boot problems?15:15
BluesKajHey all15:25
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Briareos1could it be that kmail 1.9.10 does not support mailto-links with parameters? e.g. from command line: kmail mailto:uiae@ex.org?subject=Test&body=Text15:55
Briareos1result: 'new mail' view with only the recipient filled15:56
Briareos1is there a workaround?15:56
penguinqasdf17:05
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ninecharzmuon crashes all the time.19:02
ninecharzany fix?19:03
ninecharzmuon crashes everytime I try to start it. The windows loads but that's it. Seg fault..19:03
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JontheEchidnaninecharz: have you run any updates recently?19:15
aanti[20:23] <aanti> hi there! http://i.imgur.com/jLRuo.png <-- where on my disc can i find those icons ?19:23
aanti[20:23] <aanti> whoops, wrong channel19:23
aantii think its a kubuntu modification, but i cant find it on my disc..im after the silver amarok icon19:26
EvilResistancei think that'd be a theme but idk19:27
EvilResistanceor in the icon sets somewhere19:27
aantiwell i use oxygen icons in systemsettings19:28
aantibut i just cant find it, i think i browsed all folders19:29
aantii only find the regular blue icon19:29
ninecharzJontheEchidna: well, I've only been on it about 5 days.19:31
ninecharzbut since today, it just wont start..19:31
ninecharzI didnt update anything today.19:31
JontheEchidnayeah, yesterday suddenly we got 20 bug reports about it :/19:32
JontheEchidnaso the thought it that maybe an update broke something19:32
ninecharzI tried to send a report but then they wanted a login.19:33
ninecharzill create an account soon. so I can send reports in the future.19:33
BrokenKubuntuso adding a .xinitrc breaks kubuntu???19:37
genii-aroundBrokenKubuntu: Shouldn't. But it might depend upon what you put in the file, too.19:40
BrokenKubuntujust one command, xmodmap .Xmodmap19:41
genii-aroundMight want to change that to /etc/X11/Xsession & xmodmap .Xmodmap &19:42
BrokenKubuntualright, there any tricks to get it to boot? Right now I'm stuck with a blank screen and blinking cursor19:44
genii-aroundBrokenKubuntu: Probably ctrl-alt-f1 then sudo service kdm stop. Then you can use nano to edit your xinitrc file accordingly, then issue sudo service kdm start19:48
genii-aroundBrokenKubuntu: Apologies on lag, work is fairly busy at the moment19:49
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BrokenKubuntuSee, that is the problem. Kubuntu is not booting now.19:51
genii-aroundBrokenKubuntu: ctrl-alt-f7 to return to the gui screen19:51
BrokenKubuntuoh hey, I think I know what the problem is, one sec19:53
BrokenKubuntuyep, error was me, boot priority is set to read usb's first, forgot I had I had one plugged in19:56
BrokenKubuntu<= doh19:56
administrator...19:59
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administrator___...20:02
BrokenKubuntuthe ~/.xinitrc is working too btw ^^, thx for the help, take it easy!20:04
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ScottyKquestion about the "low-fat" settings. Should that be installed before setting up all the users, or does it matter? Thanks!20:08
cerashhi!20:14
cerashit's a test20:15
cerashi'm alone!?20:15
cerashalone in the dark!?20:15
cerashi'm testing the irc... you can read me?20:16
ScottyKcerash - yes20:16
cerashoh, thanks20:16
cerashsorry but it's the firs time i use irc20:17
ScottyKcerash - no prob..20:17
cerashiwas not suru it was working20:17
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cerashit' for developer?20:17
cerashor for userrs20:18
ScottyKI think it's for everyone..20:18
cerashok, thanks! i'm very happy to begin to use kde...  see you soon  ScottyK20:20
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ScottyKquestion about the "low-fat" settings. Should that be installed before setting up all the users, or does it matter? Thanks!20:33
RiddellScottyK: it does not matter, they should get added on login20:33
ScottyKriddell - thanks20:34
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mrmikehicksI am trying to run a configure script for a program called kpicosim (a program for embedded Xilinx 8 bit pico-blaze processor)20:50
* genii-around smacks the floodbots20:52
Unit193Heh, +r20:52
mrmikehicks+r20:55
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Haakon_der_WikinHi21:16
Haakon_der_WikinGreenhorn arriving21:16
Haakon_der_Wikin:)21:16
* genii-around slides Haakon_der_Wikin a coffee21:20
Haakon_der_Wikin:D21:21
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lethuwhen is KDE 4.8 supposed to be released again please?21:32
mrmikehicksplease ignore my quest for KDE Headers, I have found a deb package for kpicosim. Thanks21:33
Haakon_der_Wikin:)21:46
Torchlethu: google for kde release schedule21:53
Torchlethu: 25th iirc21:53
lethuTorch, thank you21:59
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excognachi all anybody uses chm2pdf of calibre?23:09

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