[00:04] <verto_> hi all
[00:42] <Riddell> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/calligra-2.3.86
[01:10] <cmoman> any one here have issues with their machine not turning off after hitting shutdown. even shutdown -h -P now from the command line doesn't work. all the processes stop but the machine doesn't actually power down.  An ASUS F3T laptop circa 2007.
[01:11] <cmoman> running Kubuntu Oneric
[01:11] <lethu> cmoman, suggest looking that up in the ubuntu official forum's
[01:12] <cmoman> yep, trawled lots of places, installed older kernels, played around with power management settings.
[01:13] <cmoman> installed different distos, looked through loads of dmesg logs. the machine behaved fine before Oneric
[01:16] <cmoman> Hunty6: have you checked your downloaded install image is all good?  The alternative CD can help here sometimes too
[01:19] <lethu> cmoman, sorry can't help you here, I have no knowledge of this issue
[01:20] <lethu> but, I confirm that there are similar issues in Kubuntu
[01:21] <lethu> like for example if I set the laptop lid to switch off when closed while have kde's screensaver runing, it locks my computer and forces me to do a manual poweroff
[01:21] <cmoman> lethu: did you mean Ubunutu?
[01:21] <lethu> cmoman, nope Kubuntu
[01:21] <lethu> the Kde variant
[01:21] <cmoman> lethu: yes, even hibernate no longer works on my machine
[01:22] <lethu> same, I just don't use suspend to ram and hibernate
[01:23] <cmoman> I really like the improvements to KDE with 4.7 etc and Kontact but there aren't available on Lucid AFAIK
[01:24] <lethu> too bad
[01:24] <cmoman> I can live with hibernate and suspend but the not shutting down is becoming a niggle
[01:25] <lethu> I understand that
[01:25] <cmoman> I meant "I can live without  hibernate and suspend but the not shutting down is becoming a niggle"
[01:45] <EvilResistance> is there any way to have KDE unlock the GNOME keyring on boot/login, as well as the KDE keyrings?
[03:01] <almoxarife> EvilResistance: yes, add gnome-keyring to startup-apps, its a user app aint it?
[03:03] <EvilResistance> dunno, i can check on that though
[03:16] <Mac-azzon> Once you were in this chan 800 user
[05:23] <firstlast> hello all
[05:24] <what_if> hello
[05:24] <firstlast> how do I replace the default 'radeon' driver in Oneiric with 'fglrx'
[05:25] <what_if> open the "K" menu and type driver at the search box. Should bring up a tool called "additional drivers"
[05:25] <what_if> firstlast: if you have that installed... That GUI app is the easiest and best way
[05:25] <firstlast> what_if: X won't start for me, so I'm in the root console in recovery mode
[05:26] <what_if> oh, I see. thats a whole different story
[05:26] <firstlast> what_if: I've done 'sudo apt-get install fglrx' and it ran through its paces, but on reboot, no dice
[05:26] <firstlast> what_if: yes, I have a HD Radeon 6770
[05:27] <what_if> firstlast: what error is there in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file ??
[05:27] <what_if> should tell you why X faild to start
[05:28] <firstlast> what_if: good point, it says: Failed to load module fglrx, module does not exist
[05:29] <firstlast> what_if: I thought installing it from apt-get would enable the driver and do al that hmm
[05:29] <firstlast> what_if: my ultimate goal is to use this driver to power 3 monitors through Eyefinity
[05:30] <what_if> firstlast: it should have worked automatically.... Something did not work out properly if the module is not found.
[05:30] <firstlast> what_if: if the regular radeon driver does it as well, i can stay with that, since I never play games....do you know if the open source driver can power 3 monitors as well?
[05:30] <firstlast> what_if: ok let me try again
[05:31] <what_if> firstlast: reading online states that you may need to do a "   sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx*   "
[05:31] <what_if> firstlast: then "  sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri fglrx-modaliases   "
[05:32] <what_if> firstlast: then "   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  "
[05:32] <firstlast> what_if: isn't that the opposite way though? replacing fglrx with the mesa driver
[05:32] <firstlast> what_if: i wish to do the converse: replace the open source mesa/radeon with fglrx
[05:34] <what_if> firstlast: sry about that. You should still purge the fglrx packages then reinstall them.
[05:34] <firstlast> what_if: ok thanks, let me try
[05:36] <what_if> I have had the problem before where a proprietary driver is installed under one kernel... then the kernel is updated.  The driver thenn only exists for the old kernel. Must purge and reinstall to the updated/newer kernel :)
[05:37] <what_if> oh... and ensure "" fglrx-modaliases  "" is installed
[05:38] <flexible> what_if: is there anyway to automate that process? i have to recompile my wireless drivers everytime i update the kernel and it is becoming tiresome...
[05:39] <what_if> flexible: you can make apt run any program you like after running an installation. However, as far as I know there is no easy way to do what you ask. You would have to custom write a script which mimics the manual steps you take.
[05:41] <flexible> what_if: so if i wrote a basic bash script (essentially cd'ing into the soure directory, make'ing then make install'ing) then i could have that executed by apt before reboot and after the kernel upgrade?
[05:41] <flexible> will this compile with the correct linux release?
[05:42] <what_if> flexible: you could do it with a bash script. Getting it to compile against the correct kernel... when you are not currently running that kernel is possible... but I do not know how to do it. :)
[05:47] <what_if> firstlast: any luck?
[05:48] <firstlast> what_if: it seems to have installed it, i was able to load the module with 'modprobe fglrx' in my root shell
[05:48] <firstlast> what_if now to reboot and see if X starts
[05:48] <what_if> allright. I will be here. Good luck :0
[05:48] <what_if> :)
[05:49] <fabijan> ddh
[05:49] <fabijan> hi
[05:55] <firstlast> what_if: ugh, same problem, on picking the non-recovery mode option in Grub, it showed me the welcome screen and then the monitors turned off
[05:55] <firstlast> no signal
[05:55] <firstlast> what_if: maybe my xorg.conf is faulty
[05:55] <what_if> firstlast: whats the /var/log/Xorg.0.log error this time?
[05:56] <firstlast> what_if: rebooting now
[05:57] <what_if> firstlast: if you have an xorg.conf ... rename it to something else temporarily. Restarting the 'kdm' service should generate a new xorg.conf
[05:57] <what_if> ... by restarting X,org...
[05:57] <firstlast> what_if: same thing
[05:57] <firstlast> what_if: oh ok, let me try that
[05:58] <firstlast> what_if: i'll rename it and then try 'startx' eh
[05:59] <firstlast> what_if: wow it's showing me the same screen on all 3 monitors, mind you, i started it as root from the root shell
[05:59] <firstlast> what_if: also, this is with the radeon driver
[05:59] <what_if> firstlast: awesome. At least X is working now.
[06:00] <firstlast> what_if: ok should i reboot as a regular user now?
[06:00] <what_if> firstlast: yeah, try a reboot. It may have been the old config file screwing things up...
[06:00] <firstlast> what_if: ok
[06:05] <firstlast> what_if: sweet, KDE is now up as regular user, 3 screens triplicated, but one step at a time I guess
[06:05] <what_if> firstlast: awesome :)
[06:05] <firstlast> what_if: uh no widgets, taskbar, K button, nothing though, just the blank background....hmm
[06:06] <what_if> firstlast: thats odd....
[06:06] <firstlast> what_if: Alt-tab shows me the 5 apps running in the background, but they won't show up when I select them, how odd
[06:07] <firstlast> what_if: ahh i crashed plasma and all my apps showed for a sec before it restarted, wth
[06:07] <what_if> firstlast: yeah... plasma is not yet perfect.
[06:08] <firstlast> what_if: wow completely unusable is more like it :P
[06:08] <firstlast> what_if: how do I disable plasma, I guess?
[06:10] <firstlast> what_if: perhaps I should focus on getting my xinerama or whatever working first, i guess
[06:10] <what_if> do not know how to disable plasma.
[06:10] <firstlast> what_if: ok no worries
[06:10] <what_if> you may also want to try disabling all desktop effects.
[06:10] <firstlast> what_if: maybe I should use the Restricted Drivers Manager now and get fglrx
[06:11] <what_if> firstlast: good call
[06:11] <firstlast> what_if: or just from the command line as before
[06:11] <what_if> the GUI tool is probably best.
[06:11] <firstlast> what_if: since i don't have the K Menu and don't know how to launch the gui from the command line
[06:12] <what_if> hmmm... yeah. What an odd problem
[06:12] <what_if> commandline it is
[06:14] <firstlast> what_if: ah it's 'systemsettings' in the cmd line
[06:15] <joshwines> Hey all, quick question, is there anybody running Kubuntu 12.04 and finding it stable enough for a daily machine?
[06:16] <cjae> is there not a control module for ufw fiewall for kde 4?
[06:16] <cjae> ive read about it but only see gufw
[06:18] <firstlast> what_if: actually, i was able to unify all 3 displays, so that's perfect
[06:18] <firstlast> what_if: now to reboot and hope Plasma behaves nicely
[06:19]  * what_if crosses fingers
[06:19] <what_if> :)
[06:26] <firstlast> what_if: same Plasma problem, damn
[06:26] <what_if> firstlast: I have no idea on the plasma problem.
[06:26] <firstlast> what_if: and also, all 3 screens are the same again, it didn't save my changes, sure hope I don't have to set the screens to be to the left and right of each other after every boot
[06:28] <firstlast> what_if: launching systemsettings as root now
[06:30] <firstlast> what_if: i just realized that might be a bad idea, but doing it as a reg user doesn't let it stick hmm
[06:31] <what_if> firstlast: I have to change my screen setup every thime I reboot here... using the Nvidia driver. If you find an an easy fix, let me know :)
[06:31] <what_if> but then again I change my setup multiple times a day depending on what I'm doing... so no big deal for me
[06:31] <firstlast> what_if: well, you usually set the screens to the left and right of each other in xorg.conf, but that file doesn't even exist here
[06:33] <cjae> is there not a control module for ufw fiewall for kde 4?
[06:34] <what_if> firstlast: looks like you may need to run ' Xorg -configure ' to generate an xorg.conf file.
[06:34] <firstlast> what_if: ah, sweet, lemme try
[06:34] <what_if> firstlast: by default, the new Xorg autodetects everything fresh, and remembers nothing :/
[06:35] <firstlast> what_if: serious? that sounds idiotic...
[06:40] <what_if> firstlast: welll... I semi-agree. For the non-tech user this is an amazing benefit. Unplug old monitor, replace with new. Xorg auto configures.
[06:40] <what_if> for multi monitor setups... like you and I... its a PITA...
[06:40] <firstlast> what_if: yes, especially 3 monitors, which is a whole other level of PITA-ness
[06:41] <firstlast> what_if: i take it all back, it remembered and all 3 are in a row from L-R as I'd configured
[06:42] <firstlast> what_if: thank you for all your help, you've been awesome :)
[06:42] <what_if> firstlast: no problem. I don't sleep as much as is "normal" so I'm glad to help. Gives me something to do, keeps me in-practice
[06:43] <what_if> :)
[06:43] <firstlast> what_if: haha cool, ok i'm crashing now, been a long day, night
[06:43] <what_if> gnight
[08:31] <uofm49426> hello just install kubuntu 11.10
[08:32] <uofm49426> running on a led 22 inch tv
[08:32] <thinhhoang> hi, please help. ibus is not running on GTK+ based applications such as firefox.
[08:33] <thinhhoang> tried .bashrc, still no luck.
[08:33] <uofm49426> even at 1360 x 768 i cant see any text
[08:34] <uofm49426> how do i change text size
[08:41] <thinhhoang> how do you get ibus work on Kubuntu?
[09:20] <saurabh_D> h
[09:35] <lokifaer> bonjour à tous
[10:00] <noxis> The last update has made kde extremely unstable... again
[10:12] <AaisleE> ;
[11:02] <phoenix_firebrd> i am using the onboard intel gma x4500 graphics card. Google earths needs libgl.so, what is the package i need to install to get the libgl.so
[11:07] <ts2> phoenix_firebrd: libgl1-mesa-glx I'd guess
[11:08] <phoenix_firebrd> ts2: that package is installed, but in muon, the list of installed files shows nothing
[11:11] <ts2> phoenix_firebrd: same here, but "dpkg -L libgl1-mesa-glx" shows them
[11:11] <ts2> guess it's a bug in muon
[11:11] <phoenix_firebrd> ts2: let me check that
[11:14] <phoenix_firebrd> ts2: i got it, thats solved the problem
[11:14] <phoenix_firebrd> ts2: thank you
[11:14] <ts2> no problem
[12:00] <yon__> hellowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[12:01] <yon__> ater  i click log-out or restart or shutdown the background turns black and a confirmation button again asks me for aproval
[12:02] <yon__> it doesn't look good
[12:06] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[13:38] <oracleoftruth> Hi. Having a problem with CD-R. May be the disc but thought I would check. CD will not mount; getting an error saying
[13:38] <oracleoftruth> The kernel driver for this filesystem type is not available.: Error mounting: mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so
[14:51] <napster> How to tell this mother fucking Amarok that don't use my internet connection without asking me? He download what ever he wants x-(
[15:12] <Galba> hi
[15:15] <Galba> someone here who can help me with boot problems?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[15:55] <Briareos1> could it be that kmail 1.9.10 does not support mailto-links with parameters? e.g. from command line: kmail mailto:uiae@ex.org?subject=Test&body=Text
[15:56] <Briareos1> result: 'new mail' view with only the recipient filled
[15:56] <Briareos1> is there a workaround?
[17:05] <penguinq> asdf
[19:02] <ninecharz> muon crashes all the time.
[19:03] <ninecharz> any fix?
[19:03] <ninecharz> muon crashes everytime I try to start it. The windows loads but that's it. Seg fault..
[19:15] <JontheEchidna> ninecharz: have you run any updates recently?
[19:23] <aanti> [20:23] <aanti> hi there! http://i.imgur.com/jLRuo.png <-- where on my disc can i find those icons ?
[19:23] <aanti> [20:23] <aanti> whoops, wrong channel
[19:26] <aanti> i think its a kubuntu modification, but i cant find it on my disc..im after the silver amarok icon
[19:27] <EvilResistance> i think that'd be a theme but idk
[19:27] <EvilResistance> or in the icon sets somewhere
[19:28] <aanti> well i use oxygen icons in systemsettings
[19:29] <aanti> but i just cant find it, i think i browsed all folders
[19:29] <aanti> i only find the regular blue icon
[19:31] <ninecharz> JontheEchidna: well, I've only been on it about 5 days.
[19:31] <ninecharz> but since today, it just wont start..
[19:31] <ninecharz> I didnt update anything today.
[19:32] <JontheEchidna> yeah, yesterday suddenly we got 20 bug reports about it :/
[19:32] <JontheEchidna> so the thought it that maybe an update broke something
[19:33] <ninecharz> I tried to send a report but then they wanted a login.
[19:33] <ninecharz> ill create an account soon. so I can send reports in the future.
[19:37] <BrokenKubuntu> so adding a .xinitrc breaks kubuntu???
[19:40] <genii-around> BrokenKubuntu: Shouldn't. But it might depend upon what you put in the file, too.
[19:41] <BrokenKubuntu> just one command, xmodmap .Xmodmap
[19:42] <genii-around> Might want to change that to /etc/X11/Xsession & xmodmap .Xmodmap &
[19:44] <BrokenKubuntu> alright, there any tricks to get it to boot? Right now I'm stuck with a blank screen and blinking cursor
[19:48] <genii-around> BrokenKubuntu: Probably ctrl-alt-f1 then sudo service kdm stop. Then you can use nano to edit your xinitrc file accordingly, then issue sudo service kdm start
[19:49] <genii-around> BrokenKubuntu: Apologies on lag, work is fairly busy at the moment
[19:51] <BrokenKubuntu> See, that is the problem. Kubuntu is not booting now.
[19:51] <genii-around> BrokenKubuntu: ctrl-alt-f7 to return to the gui screen
[19:53] <BrokenKubuntu> oh hey, I think I know what the problem is, one sec
[19:56] <BrokenKubuntu> yep, error was me, boot priority is set to read usb's first, forgot I had I had one plugged in
[19:56] <BrokenKubuntu> <= doh
[19:59] <administrator> ...
[20:02] <administrator___> ...
[20:04] <BrokenKubuntu> the ~/.xinitrc is working too btw ^^, thx for the help, take it easy!
[20:08] <ScottyK> question about the "low-fat" settings. Should that be installed before setting up all the users, or does it matter? Thanks!
[20:14] <cerash> hi!
[20:15] <cerash> it's a test
[20:15] <cerash> i'm alone!?
[20:15] <cerash> alone in the dark!?
[20:16] <cerash> i'm testing the irc... you can read me?
[20:16] <ScottyK> cerash - yes
[20:16] <cerash> oh, thanks
[20:17] <cerash> sorry but it's the firs time i use irc
[20:17] <ScottyK> cerash - no prob..
[20:17] <cerash> iwas not suru it was working
[20:17] <cerash> it' for developer?
[20:18] <cerash> or for userrs
[20:18] <ScottyK> I think it's for everyone..
[20:20] <cerash> ok, thanks! i'm very happy to begin to use kde...  see you soon  ScottyK
[20:33] <ScottyK> question about the "low-fat" settings. Should that be installed before setting up all the users, or does it matter? Thanks!
[20:33] <Riddell> ScottyK: it does not matter, they should get added on login
[20:34] <ScottyK> riddell - thanks
[20:50] <mrmikehicks> I am trying to run a configure script for a program called kpicosim (a program for embedded Xilinx 8 bit pico-blaze processor)
[20:52]  * genii-around smacks the floodbots
[20:52] <Unit193> Heh, +r
[20:55] <mrmikehicks> +r
[21:16] <Haakon_der_Wikin> Hi
[21:16] <Haakon_der_Wikin> Greenhorn arriving
[21:16] <Haakon_der_Wikin> :)
[21:20]  * genii-around slides Haakon_der_Wikin a coffee
[21:21] <Haakon_der_Wikin> :D
[21:32] <lethu> when is KDE 4.8 supposed to be released again please?
[21:33] <mrmikehicks> please ignore my quest for KDE Headers, I have found a deb package for kpicosim. Thanks
[21:46] <Haakon_der_Wikin> :)
[21:53] <Torch> lethu: google for kde release schedule
[21:53] <Torch> lethu: 25th iirc
[21:59] <lethu> Torch, thank you
[23:09] <excognac> hi all anybody uses chm2pdf of calibre?