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| Goodguy69 | Hi all, just wanted to say Hi. | 04:22 |
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| Goodguy69 | I am running Lucid10.04 on my pc and really don't like the newer version with the Ubuntu One theme. How long can I stay with Lucid before I have no option to upgrade? | 04:34 |
| holstein | Goodguy69: you will be offered to upgrade to 12.04, and should be offered 12.10 | 04:35 |
| Unit193 | Can't jump from 10.04 to 12.10 though | 04:35 |
| holstein | not sure how much past that... the repos should be off by the time 13.04 is out, but 10.04 server is supported for 5 years | 04:36 |
| holstein | yeah, ^^ thats true.. you can only jump LTS to LTS | 04:36 |
| Unit193 | Or LTS to next "beta" ;) | 04:36 |
| holstein | Unit193: you think you can go from 10.04 to 14.04? | 04:36 |
| Goodguy69 | I want to stay with 10.04? | 04:36 |
| Unit193 | Nope | 04:36 |
| holstein | you'd have to jump to 12.04... | 04:37 |
| holstein | Goodguy69: no reason not to stay with it really | 04:37 |
| holstein | im still running it | 04:37 |
| Goodguy69 | Ive tried out 11.10 and hate the Ubuntu One look and desktop. | 04:37 |
| holstein | Goodguy69: unity | 04:37 |
| holstein | ubuntu one is the online storage service... kind of like dropbox | 04:38 |
| Goodguy69 | Sorry Unity lol. | 04:38 |
| Unit193 | holstein: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-release-cycle-2.png | 04:38 |
| holstein | Goodguy69: no worries | 04:38 |
| holstein | Unit193: thats a nice graphic | 04:38 |
| Goodguy69 | I have used 11.10 with the gnome classic setup but a lot of features were missing? | 04:39 |
| Unit193 | Another one too http://www.ubuntu.com/sites/www.ubuntu.com/files/active/02_ubuntu/U_business/desktop-release-nov-2011.png (Shows you where you can upgrade) | 04:39 |
| holstein | Goodguy69: its a different UI... ubuntu is doing what it always has... supply the latest version of gnome | 04:39 |
| holstein | just gnome is not default any longer, and gnome3 is not like gnome2 | 04:39 |
| Goodguy69 | How is it different? | 04:40 |
| holstein | Goodguy69: if you have a chance, check out xubuntu | 04:40 |
| holstein | most are finding XFCE to be quite gnome like | 04:40 |
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| holstein | Goodguy69: gnome3?... gnome3 is a lot like unity actually | 04:40 |
| Unit193 | Kubuntu is also another option | 04:41 |
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| holstein | yup... lubuntu... all kinds of desktop options really | 04:41 |
| Goodguy69 | Whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu? | 04:41 |
| holstein | Goodguy69: the way the desktop looks/feels basically | 04:42 |
| holstein | kubuntu uses KDE | 04:42 |
| holstein | ubuntu use to use gnome, now they use unity | 04:42 |
| holstein | lubuntu uses LXDE | 04:42 |
| Goodguy69 | Sorry for asking dumb questions, but im starting to really like linux. And don't wan't to go back to Windows. | 04:42 |
| holstein | xubuntu uses XFCE which is very much like gnome2, the one you are missing | 04:43 |
| holstein | Goodguy69: right | 04:43 |
| holstein | there are options | 04:43 |
| holstein | Goodguy69: there are gnome2 forks, and gnome3 forks... but i suggest trying xubuntu... thats arguably the most like 10.04 was | 04:43 |
| Goodguy69 | Thanks Holstein I will look into Kubuntu. | 04:43 |
| holstein | Goodguy69: xubuntu | 04:43 |
| holstein | kubuntu is great too... and look at it, but its not much like gnome2 | 04:44 |
| Goodguy69 | Xubuntu. | 04:44 |
| holstein | you might really like it though | 04:44 |
| holstein | http://www.xubuntu.org/ | 04:44 |
| holstein | same deal... just download the image, burn it to a CD, and try it live first | 04:44 |
| holstein | see if you like it :) | 04:44 |
| Goodguy69 | I have been using 10.04 for the past few weeks and like it, so will try out your suggestion. | 04:45 |
| holstein | Goodguy69: im using 10.04 most places too | 04:45 |
| Unit193 | http://www.kubuntu.org/ if you don't like the other one | 04:45 |
| Goodguy69 | Thanks for the links guys. | 04:46 |
| nixnine | hey guys, is there a terminal command to see if my comp is bluetooth enabled? | 04:49 |
| holstein | hciconfig ? | 04:50 |
| holstein | i dont have anything around to test it on :/ | 04:51 |
| holstein | nixnine: check out http://hanishkvc.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/short-and-simple-commandline-bluetooth-in-any-new-linux-distros/ and let me know if thats not enough for you | 04:51 |
| AJH101 | Hi - i was running Ubuntu under Windoze (via Wubi) but have now set up a dual boot system. Although I have uninstalled Wubi I am still given the choice to run this when booting. How do I amend this please? | 11:11 |
| Snicksie | hm, I guess you should change that in your windows bootloader | 11:12 |
| AJH101 | Where would i find that?! | 11:12 |
| Snicksie | maybe this helps you AJH101 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289022 | 11:12 |
| AJH101 | :-) | 11:12 |
| AJH101 | This is good thanks but under 'system startup' there is nothing indicating 'edit' | 11:16 |
| AJH101 | ! | 11:16 |
| AJH101 | apparently there is no boot.ini in vista - eek | 11:23 |
| AJH101 | hello - how do change whatever passes for a boot.ini file in Vista please? | 11:33 |
| fr33r1d3 | AJH101: Have you tested using BCDEDIT? http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2014/vista_using_bcdedit_boot_up_options_dual_boot_xp_prof/ | 11:35 |
| coalwater | there's an option for that in some gui, hold on gonna remember the name lol | 11:37 |
| zeroseven0183 | AJH101, check out this page. The last part might help you http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-safely-uninstall-ubuntu-in-windows-dual-boot-environment/ | 11:39 |
| fr33r1d3 | You can change boot.ini from MSCONFIG too. | 11:39 |
| coalwater | in cmd write 'msconfig' | 11:40 |
| coalwater | yea | 11:40 |
| fr33r1d3 | reading thoughts | 11:40 |
| AJH101 | hello - i was running ubuntu via wubi (within Vista) but have now set up dual boot. Although I have uninstalled wubi i am still offered the option to boot into ubuntu. I understand i need to edit boot.ini but this does not exist within vista. (I only need it for some online poker rooms). Any ideas? | 12:17 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | AJH101: According to http://tinyurl.com/7y83qrs , you can use Bcdedit command to edit settings | 12:22 |
| coalwater | AJH101: you have the windows boot loader right? fr33r1d3 and i suggested editing thru msconfig, i didn't check if u were gone or still there | 12:24 |
| Snicksie | AJH101, http://paste.ubuntu.com/801680/ << thats what they said while you were gone :) | 12:25 |
| AJH101 | Thanks IAmNotThatGuy but I am trying to edit the file. Snicksie i will check the link thanks | 12:26 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | I believe there is no boot.ini file in Vista | 12:26 |
| AJH101 | indeed! i will now reboot and try msconfig - ttfn! | 12:27 |
| coalwater | hm, why reboot | 12:28 |
| coalwater | test the change ? | 12:29 |
| nlsthzn_ | the only person that knows isn't here right now ;) | 12:29 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | lol | 12:29 |
| Snicksie | maybe because he was in ubuntu? | 12:31 |
| fr33r1d3 | IAmNotThatGuy: from a quick googling.. "the boot.ini file has been replaced with Boot | 12:33 |
| fr33r1d3 | Configuration Data (BCD)" | 12:33 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | fr33r1d3: I have shared a tinuyurl explaining that. btw, thanks =] | 12:33 |
| fr33r1d3 | ok, maybe i should read before i type ;-) | 12:34 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | wb AJH101 | 12:35 |
| AJH101 | hello again via vista - msconfig at the ready! :-) | 12:35 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | Great =] | 12:36 |
| AJH101 | hmm - can find no mention of wubi, linux or ubuntu | 12:36 |
| fr33r1d3 | are you looking on the Boot tab? | 12:38 |
| Snicksie | http://tinyurl.com/7y83qrs http://paste.ubuntu.com/801680/ are the urls if you forgot them :) | 12:38 |
| fr33r1d3 | AJH101: I think I find something that might interest you: http://www.vistabootpro.org/ | 12:39 |
| AJH101 | damn - keep being disconnected for some reason - did i miss anything please? | 12:43 |
| Snicksie | [13:38] <Snicksie> http://tinyurl.com/7y83qrs http://paste.ubuntu.com/801680/ are the urls if you forgot them :)[13:39] * Goodguy69 (7a3d13d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.61.19.212) has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[13:39] <fr33r1d3> AJH101: I think I find something that might interest you: http://www.vistabootpro.org/ | 12:46 |
| AJH101 | got those thanks - not really answers to my issue - i can live with it i suppose. | 12:51 |
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| s-fox | Hello. | 14:47 |
| Friedhelm | Hello world is the word;-) | 14:51 |
| Snicksie | Bird is the word :o | 14:59 |
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| AJH101 | A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Having changed partitions using a livecd and gparted, i can no longer boot into the os chooser (bootloader). Can I recover, or do I need to use this as a lesson and reinstall everything?! | 16:26 |
| Snicksie | AJH101, what did you do exactly? :) | 16:27 |
| Snicksie | you can always try to fix your grub boot loader | 16:27 |
| Snicksie | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Methods_of_Reinstalling | 16:28 |
| AJH101 | ill read this thanks | 16:28 |
| AJH101 | Snicksie thanks - will be back either way :-) | 16:34 |
| s-fox | Goodbye. | 17:28 |
| nothingspecial | hi LadyGorey | 18:55 |
| LadyGorey | Hello nothingspecial | 18:55 |
| * nothingspecial is struggling to find ubuntu/mac users here | 18:55 | |
| LadyGorey | Take your time, I'm not in a huge rush | 18:55 |
| LadyGorey | Actually brb | 18:56 |
| nothingspecial | kay | 18:57 |
| nothingspecial | LadyGorey, http://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write | 19:00 |
| LadyGorey | This would be easy if I had access to a Mac, but I don't right now | 19:01 |
| holstein | LadyGorey: this is easy from ubuntu | 19:02 |
| LadyGorey | Okay thanks | 19:02 |
| holstein | you just mount the drive | 19:02 |
| LadyGorey | I'm looking at the doc more thoroughly | 19:02 |
| nothingspecial | thanks holstein | 19:02 |
| LadyGorey | Still confused | 19:04 |
| holstein | LadyGorey: do you have the drive plugged in? | 19:05 |
| LadyGorey | Yes | 19:05 |
| holstein | LadyGorey: do you see 'disk utility' in the menu? | 19:05 |
| LadyGorey | Yeah I got it open | 19:06 |
| holstein | LadyGorey: do you see the hard drive in question mentioned there? | 19:07 |
| LadyGorey | Yes | 19:07 |
| holstein | LadyGorey: that is great! | 19:08 |
| LadyGorey | My guess next is edit partition? | 19:08 |
| LadyGorey | Or...? | 19:08 |
| holstein | LadyGorey: nope | 19:08 |
| LadyGorey | No dice. Okay, what's next? | 19:08 |
| holstein | LadyGorey: just sit tight! | 19:08 |
| LadyGorey | Ok! | 19:08 |
| * LadyGorey sits | 19:08 | |
| holstein | i would literally just open the file manager and see if its there | 19:09 |
| holstein | and click on it | 19:09 |
| holstein | or right click and mount it | 19:09 |
| LadyGorey | Uh... hold on | 19:10 |
| LadyGorey | When I right click in Disk Utility, nothing happens, when I right click in a general folder on my hard drive, the options are very limited | 19:11 |
| Snicksie | LadyGorey, have a sec... i'm going to read your story, got a mac myself ;) | 19:13 |
| LadyGorey | :) | 19:13 |
| Snicksie | okay | 19:13 |
| holstein | yup... im going to hand this off to our resident mac professional LadyGorey :) | 19:13 |
| holstein | Snicksie: thanks :) | 19:13 |
| LadyGorey | Thanks for helping holstein | 19:13 |
| Snicksie | so you're on ubuntu, installed on a mac (how did you do this? with boot camp and rEFIt or ...? is it a 'new'(intel-based) mac or an old one?) | 19:14 |
| LadyGorey | Nope... | 19:14 |
| holstein | its another box | 19:14 |
| holstein | AFAIK.. | 19:14 |
| LadyGorey | I had a Mac, the harddrive is installed for Mac. The mac died | 19:14 |
| Snicksie | okay | 19:14 |
| LadyGorey | I'm currently running Ubuntu on a PC | 19:14 |
| LadyGorey | I can see the hard drive on here but it's read-only and I want to be able to move stuff to and from it like I did on my Mac, but I don't want to reformat it because I have about 100+GB of data on it | 19:15 |
| Snicksie | well, okay... :p | 19:16 |
| LadyGorey | It's complicated I know | 19:16 |
| Snicksie | well, I see... thats why I never had a problem... I always only needed to read :p | 19:16 |
| LadyGorey | Wish I could say the same! | 19:17 |
| LadyGorey | What would happen if I changed the partition? | 19:19 |
| nothingspecial | you would loose your data | 19:19 |
| LadyGorey | Same with formatting, I assume? | 19:19 |
| nothingspecial | what do you mean by change? | 19:20 |
| LadyGorey | Well there's an edit partition option under disk utility | 19:20 |
| nothingspecial | no no no | 19:20 |
| LadyGorey | I'm not clicking anything, was just curious | 19:20 |
| nothingspecial | that is for deleting, resizing, formatting etc | 19:21 |
| LadyGorey | ok | 19:21 |
| LadyGorey | It says I can unmount it | 19:22 |
| nothingspecial | Maybe you should try #mac ##mac or ##apple as well | 19:22 |
| LadyGorey | Okay | 19:23 |
| nothingspecial | stick here though, someone might pop up | 19:23 |
| LadyGorey | I'm in both now | 19:23 |
| nothingspecial | I'll be back later | 19:25 |
| nothingspecial | :) | 19:25 |
| LadyGorey | Thanks for helpign | 19:25 |
| LadyGorey | helping** | 19:26 |
| LadyGorey | I think I found a solution... thanks everyone | 19:30 |
| AJH101 | geirha: sorry for the delay in coming back to you. I tried the first option to reinstall grub in the link you gave me but no joy! | 20:05 |
| geirha | So long in fact that I don't remember giving you any links regarding grub | 20:07 |
| AJH101 | lol sorry - life getting in the way | 20:07 |
| geirha | Looking through the backlog, I think you meant Snicksie | 20:07 |
| AJH101 | perhaps it is incorrect to call it grub - bootloader? | 20:08 |
| AJH101 | o sorry | 20:08 |
| Snicksie | ah, grub :) | 20:08 |
| Snicksie | yeah | 20:08 |
| geirha | grub is the bootloader ubuntu uses, so either term is correct. One is just more specific than the other. | 20:08 |
| AJH101 | snicksie: can you help please? | 20:08 |
| Snicksie | !grub2 | 20:08 |
| ubot2` | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) | 20:08 |
| AJH101 | ubot2: Thanks! | 20:09 |
| Snicksie | ubot is our mighty bot :p | 20:09 |
| Snicksie | AJH101, so the current situation is ...? :) | 20:11 |
| Snicksie | do you have grub or the windows bootloader or none? | 20:11 |
| urlin2u | AJH101, you ever use the bootscript? | 20:14 |
| urlin2u | AJH101, run this and pastebin the results.txt it will cut down the 20 questions. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ | 20:15 |
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