| BluesKaj | Hey all | 15:26 |
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| dscassel | Morning, BluesKaj :) | 15:31 |
| BluesKaj | hi dscassel :) | 15:32 |
| * genii-around makes coffee | 16:17 | |
| BluesKaj | snowing in the north channel | 16:33 |
| bregma | cripes, I just accidentally started the upgrade to precise on my main machine | 16:38 |
| bregma | here's hoping it's stable | 16:39 |
| genii-around | bregma: I guess BluesKaj and I may see you later in #ubuntu+1 ;) | 16:45 |
| BluesKaj | genii-around, I reverted to 11.10 so I haven't been hanging around there much lately | 16:47 |
| bregma | actually, I'm in the same hotel in Hungary as the entire Canonical desktop team, I'm in good hands | 16:47 |
| bregma | if they're not already in a nearby bar | 16:48 |
| genii-around | Nice! | 16:50 |
| epod | meh.,... | 17:47 |
| epod | I'd order a system76 system, but they don't collect duties... so I have no idea WTF Canada customs would charge me, and shipping is already almost $100 | 17:47 |
| epod | :S | 17:47 |
| pangolin | epod: they will charge you the normal tax rate for your province | 17:49 |
| epod | ah so 12% | 17:49 |
| pangolin | I believe that is how they do it. | 17:50 |
| pangolin | don't quote me on it. | 17:50 |
| epod | so $84 | 17:50 |
| epod | which would make, with shipping, the laptop almost $900 | 17:50 |
| epod | I might as well buy a retail system at futureshop/bestbuy with those specs for $600 and put ubuntu on it | 17:51 |
| genii-around | I think the Dell linux boxes can still be ordered from in Canada | 18:10 |
| dscassel | epod: With System76, it's not customs you need to worry about. It's brokerage fees. | 18:13 |
| dscassel | I'm probably going to try zareason for my next machine. | 18:14 |
| dscassel | Much as I think the System76 guys are awesome... | 18:14 |
| epod | dscassel, oh right ups' brokerage fee... ugh I guess system76 is out | 18:18 |
| epod | I'm currently thinking either http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX34104 or http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX34111 I'm just a bit concerned about AMD Fusion stuff under Linux not being mature. And I don't know which is better for windows gaming. | 18:19 |
| DarwinSurvivor | epod I got a system76 machine a few months go. had it shipped to a location in the US, then brught it over myself | 20:29 |
| DarwinSurvivor | paid about $25 shipping and duty was just the 12% (I believe) | 20:30 |
| DarwinSurvivor | actually, I don't think we had to pay anything to bring it accross, just the $25 shipping to get it to blaine | 20:56 |
| DarwinSurvivor | you just have to get the shipping destination added as an authorized shipping destination to your credit card (5 minute phone call to the bank) | 20:56 |
| epod | DarwinSurvivor, yeah, I could do that I suppose, Fargo isnt that far south. | 20:57 |
| epod | genii-around, I havent found any on Dell's site, do you where I'd look? | 20:58 |
| DarwinSurvivor | just add the shipping address to your card, then verify it with system76 before buying it | 20:58 |
| epod | DarwinSurvivor, mmkay. | 20:59 |
| dscassel | I'm very pro buying Ubuntu pre-installed. | 21:01 |
| dscassel | But failing that, you can always look up potential purchases here: https://friendly.ubuntu.com/ | 21:01 |
| DarwinSurvivor | some manufacturers (Acer I know of) will give you a partial refund on the OS if you send in your HDD for a full wipe right after purchase | 21:01 |
| epod | dscassel, I'd like to, but Dell apparently has no ubuntu notebooks for sale in Canada anymore, and its a 3 ring circus (or really expensive) to get a system76 :( | 21:02 |
| genii-around | epod: This is the old page: http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=ca&l=en&cs=cadhs1 if you use their search bar on top right with: linux laptop the first hit at top is the Inspiron N411Z | 21:02 |
| DarwinSurvivor | just get something in writing from the manufacturer before purchase | 21:02 |
| epod | genii-around, yeah, but if I go to BUY one, only win7 is available | 21:02 |
| DarwinSurvivor | another route is small shops, they are usually more willing to bring in custom-build systems with no OS | 21:04 |
| DarwinSurvivor | If you live in lower-mainland BC, geeks-are-us will probably do that for you | 21:04 |
| epod | I'm in winnipeg, just checking out google to see if there's anything around here | 21:06 |
| epod | DarwinSurvivor, I'm currently just thinking of going with http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/dell-dell-inspiron-15-6-laptop-featuring-intel-core-i3-2310m-processor-i15rn-7059dbk-black-i15rn-7059dbk/10174369.aspx?path=b79161cf9d839f2c30aa72808a84e255en02 and putting 11.10 on it | 21:07 |
| epod | from what I can tell, all the hardware ought to work out of the box | 21:08 |
| DarwinSurvivor | nice | 21:09 |
| epod | oddly, $50 cheaper than buying the SAME laptop from Dell.ca | 21:09 |
| DarwinSurvivor | there should be an equivalent on Dell's site | 21:09 |
| epod | which I don't get :S | 21:09 |
| epod | yeah there is, it's $50 more. | 21:09 |
| epod | lol | 21:09 |
| DarwinSurvivor | it won't be the same model number (bestbuy gets custom numbers for "price comparison" reasons), but there should be a VERY close one on Dell's site | 21:09 |
| * DarwinSurvivor just read up 5 lines, nvm... | 21:10 | |
| DarwinSurvivor | before you buy it, e-mail Dell's sales support asking what the procedure is for OS refunds (not if they exist, ask what they are) | 21:11 |
| DarwinSurvivor | you can probably get 50-100 back :D | 21:11 |
| epod | I just wonder if I can do some decent gaming on it, and ok, I will do that. | 21:11 |
| epod | (by decent I mean, minecraft, trine, maybe wow) | 21:11 |
| epod | all under linux of course, dual booting is the debbil. | 21:12 |
| BobJonkman | Is there any advantage in a bulk purchase? | 21:54 |
| BobJonkman | What if we created a Laptop Buying Consortium amongst Ubuntu-ca people. Would that reduce our cost in shipping, duty, brokerage fees? | 21:55 |
| dscassel | Probably only works if we're all in the same city. | 22:14 |
| dscassel | Although duty (and probably brokerage fees, because they're evil like that) are a percentage of the declared value. | 22:14 |
| dscassel | But you'd save on shipping... | 22:14 |
| epod | yeah the whole customs brokerage fees from UPS are insane. | 22:17 |
| epod | I'd rather stuff ship USPS, but that isnt an option | 22:17 |
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