[00:28] <asac_> cyphermox: hello
[00:28] <asac_> cyphermox: i have a safe and correct fix on ntrack side that avoids the need for the libnl fix by not using AUTO_PROVIDE, but rather providing/unproviding manually...
[00:29] <asac_> cyphermox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/801225/
[00:29] <asac_> cyphermox: oh cool: http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/libnl/2012-January/000437.html
[00:29] <asac_> :)
[00:29] <asac_> my patch got applied
[00:30] <asac_> \o/ ... /me did something useful at last
[00:30] <asac_> :-P
[00:31] <asac_> will commit the ntrack side change anyway i guess... doing things manually feels safer anyway :)
[06:48] <BigWhale> Good Morning
[06:49] <BigWhale> Alpha-1 Precise installer is crashing in Virtualbox is that a known issue?
[08:03] <pitti> Good morning
[08:10] <mterry> pitti, morning!  :)
[08:14] <seb128> mterry, pitti: hey!
[08:24]  * bryceh waves
[08:39] <jono> seb128, is didrocks near you?
[08:40] <jono> could you let him know his blog is down
[08:40] <seb128> jono, yes, he knows, he told me at breakfast this morning
[08:40] <jono> seb128, ahhh cool
[08:40] <jono> I was going to promote his Unity PPA testing instructions, but I noticed it was down
[08:41] <kenvandine> jono, promote the gwibber testing too... it is in the same unity ppa :)
[08:41] <jono> kenvandine, will do
[08:41]  * kenvandine has forgotten how to blog... been too long :)
[08:42] <jono> OK, I will promote the testing instructions
[08:49] <jbicha> versions tracker is broken, perhaps I broke it by tagging bug 914137 as desktop-upgrade
[08:49] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 914137 in gcompris "Please package gcompris 12.01" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/914137
[08:49] <seb128> jbicha, let me check
[08:50] <jbicha> since running the versions.py locally fails at gcompris with http://paste.ubuntu.com/801507/
[08:55] <chrisccoulson> kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~extension-hackers/messagingmenu-extension/trunk
[08:59] <tkamppeter> jasoncwarner_, hi
[09:03] <jasoncwarner_> kenvandine: updated gwibber...does start up noticeably faster...though, man, the scrolling still feels really fast (not aligned with system  scrolling ) and I can't use page down/up to move in stream?
[09:04] <kenvandine> that should work
[09:04] <jasoncwarner_> kenvandine: or, rather, I must click stream before I can use page up/down. possible to give stream focus to allow page up/down right away?
[09:04] <kenvandine> i should be able to
[09:04] <kenvandine> the real thing to test right now is gwibber-service
[09:04] <kenvandine> one sec
[09:05] <kenvandine> watch -n0.1 'ps -e -o pcpu,rss,comm|grep gwibber-service'
[09:06] <kenvandine> watch that while you do a refresh
[09:06] <kenvandine> right click on the gwibber icon in the launcher to kick off a refresh
[09:07] <kenvandine> jasoncwarner_, although i just found that the gwibber build in the unity-team ppa is slightly broken because it was built for oneiric and copied over
[09:07] <kenvandine> python version related
[09:08] <kenvandine> i just uploaded for a precise rebuilt
[09:13] <xclaesse> ssh agent seems broken in precise :(
[09:13] <xclaesse> git pull asks me for the password everytime
[09:23] <BigWhale> finally got precise installed in virtualbox ...
[09:32] <jasoncwarner_> kenvandine: I'll update later and test again
[09:39] <BigWhale> will be unity5 backported to oneiric?
[09:42] <seb128> BigWhale, not likely
[09:42] <seb128> xclaesse, works for others, check you SSH_... environment variable and if gnome-keyring is running with the pid indicated
[09:46] <mandel> I'm using Pangolin and apparently I cannot longer access the system settings dialog, does this happen to anyone else?
[09:46] <pitti> mandel: works fine here; what do you see if you run "gnome-control-center" in a terminal?
[09:46]  * mandel tries
[09:48] <xclaesse> seb128, ok, restarted my session and now it works. :)
[09:48] <mandel> pitti, funny it seems that after the upgrade the package was removed..
[09:48] <mandel> pitti, after re-installing it works
[09:48] <pitti> ah, please always watch what apt-get dist-upgrade wants to do :)
[09:48] <BigWhale> I have to import cairo just to get access to couple of constants is there a way to get those two from Gtk/Gdk? I am talking about cairo.OPERATOR_SOURCE and other operators
[09:49] <mandel> pitti, indeed, mea culpa for not reading
[09:53] <geser> does somebody else have "libglib2.0-bin: /etc/etc/bash_completion.d/gdbus-bash-completion.sh" (note the double etc) in precise? I've no idea where it comes from as the deb doesn't contain it.
[09:53] <pitti> geser: hm, I have tha
[09:53] <pitti> geser: hm, I have that
[09:55] <seb128> geser, pitti: it was shipped by error in oneiric
[09:55] <seb128> in /etc/etc/... rather than /etc (i.e install bug)
[09:55] <pitti>  /etc/etc/bash_completion.d/gdbus-bash-completion.sh 3c6022ac0bf85f2f374358a52456e803 obsolete
[09:55] <pitti>  /etc/etc/bash_completion.d/gsettings-bash-completion.sh d4db35a85d409a6f7747ce269306ffe5 obsolete
[09:55] <pitti> indeed
[09:55] <seb128> but I didn't clean it since I was unsure how to properly clean them, I was pondering doing a rm of /etc/etc in the postinst
[09:56] <pitti> seb128: I think it's safer to rm the two files and then rmdir -p  /etc/etc/bash_completion.d/
[09:56] <seb128> but I don't like to delete dirs on disk when other stuff might be installed there
[09:56] <mpt> mvo, good morning, do you have time to review my suggested design for the unresolvable update case?
[09:56] <seb128> pitti, I was leaning toward that as well
[09:56] <seb128> well short story "known issue" ;-)
[10:50] <TheMuso`> ronoc: When you see David next, please ask him to send his jack detection testing email to ubuntu-devel@ as well, thanks.
[10:50] <ronoc> TheMuso`, will do
[10:51] <cyphermox> pitti: yay, one more rally item done (IPv6/DNS stuff)
[11:10] <ronoc> robert_ancell, I'm thinking it may be easier to do the writing to the accounts service in the greeter in the indicator
[11:13] <robert_ancell> ronoc, works for me :)
[11:22] <ronoc> robert_ancell, good stuff
[11:23] <ronoc> robert_ancell, yeah it might be a headache trying to connect to pulse from the greeter, while the service is running there anyway with all the info we need and it can easily tell that it's in greeter mode
[14:22] <pitti> MacSlow: hey, do you have a minute? where can I find you?
[14:23] <MacSlow> pitti, Kond room
[14:27] <dobey> pitti: hey, did you get my mail about CD space from last night?
[14:28] <micahg> Sweetshark: bug 915352
[14:28] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 915352 in libreoffice "package libreoffice-common 1:3.5.0~beta2-2ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: il sottoprocesso vecchio script di post-installation ha restituito lo stato di errore 127" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/915352
[14:32] <Sweetshark> micahg: known issue (see backlog). bug is updated.
[14:32] <Sweetshark> micahg: thx
[14:33] <micahg> Sweetshark: sorry, must have been offline when the discussion happened, thanks
[15:35] <pitti> hey dobey; indeed I did, thanks!
[15:35] <pitti> dobey: I spent my morning with making gnome-keyring gcr/gck introspectable, but then it turned out that you probably don't need those, but libgnome-keyring, right?
[15:35] <pitti> dobey: I'll spend my train trip back with working on that
[15:39] <dobey> pitti: gnomekeyring gir would be nice for gwibber. we don't need it for u1
[15:39] <dobey> pitti: i'm wondering who we need to discuss splitting up pyqt packaging with, though
[15:42] <pitti> dobey: debfx seems to upload it a lot, perhaps he's interested
[15:44] <dobey> pitti: right. though i guess i'm more interested in discussing the impact for kubuntu/debian packaging for example. :)
[15:46] <pitti> dobey: debfx is one of the main Kubuntu devs
[15:46] <dobey> ok
[17:23] <Riddell> what's the turn around time on MIRs now?
[17:24] <pitti> mterry: ^ are you still the "gatekeeper"?
[17:24] <mterry> pitti, yes, but I've been bad recently
[17:24] <mterry> Riddell, you have things you want reviewed?  I can review anything urgent tomorrow and do a pass through the rest to assign to other MIR members
[17:25]  * dobey wonders what ubuntu studio does exactly, to make jack work/usable
[17:32] <Riddell> mterry: http://goo.gl/cG4Qm and bug 586324
[17:32] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 586324 in openal-soft "[MIR] openal-soft" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586324
[17:32] <Riddell> mterry: of which bug 914720 is the main one I care about
[17:32] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 914720 in libmygpo-qt "[MIR] libmygpo-qt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/914720
[17:33] <mterry> Riddell, OK.  I'll do them all tomorrow
[17:33] <mterry> Riddell, sorry  :-/
[17:33] <Riddell> nothing to be sorry for, they were only reported recently :)
[17:38] <mterry> Riddell, oh, then nm  :)
[17:38]  * mterry thought he was super behind
[19:23] <dobey> meh, all the people in budapest are certainly off having beer and food now
[19:37]  * dobey wonders what is written in pure python and uses gsettings
[19:38] <dobey> apport maybe
[19:38] <dobey> or not
[19:38] <BigWhale> dobey, join them? :)
[19:39] <dobey> BigWhale: i'm not in budapest
[19:39] <BigWhale> oh ..
[19:39] <dobey> or i wouldn't be on irc right now :)
[19:39] <BigWhale> I was just about to suggest that it's just half a block away :>
[19:39] <BigWhale> you could crawl there!
[19:40] <dobey> hrmm, indicator-weather has gsettings
[19:41] <dobey> huh
[19:42] <BigWhale> and I can't really decide what do to, add ffmpeg support back to Kazam or take care of editing ...
[19:42] <dobey> wigh
[19:42] <dobey> lp:indicator-weather hasn't ever been pushed to :(
[19:47] <dobey> trying to find a working example of translated gsettings schema xml in a python project, is nigh impossible :-/
[19:47] <dobey> eh, maybe i'll just not translate it for now then
[19:48] <dobey> or just convert this project to use autotools
[19:48] <dobey> which would be better anyway
[19:55] <BigWhale> Hmm, gsettings is preferred way of storing settings, right?
[19:58] <BigWhale> there's no GSettings introspection in Oneiric?!
[20:06] <dobey> there is
[20:06] <dobey> Gio.Settings
[20:07] <BigWhale> ah
[20:07] <BigWhale> I was looking for GSettings
[20:07] <BigWhale> :)
[20:07] <BigWhale> and I noticed that there's also GStreamer introspection
[20:08] <BigWhale> which raises more questions
[20:12] <BigWhale> ok, guys on #gstreamer pretty much answered it. :)
[22:57] <dobey> grr apport