[08:03] <pitti> Good morning
[08:11]  * bryceh waves
[08:56] <smoser> where does rc.local come from?
[08:59] <smoser> initscripts postinst.
[09:03] <dholbach> barry, what do you think about having a quick UDW session about UDD? we still have open slots: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable :)
[09:06] <rbasak> doko: have you been working on openmpi?
[09:07] <doko> rbasak, no
[09:07] <barry> dholbach: sure!  how about feb1 1900-2000 utc?
[09:07] <dholbach> barry, that sounds perfect to my ears!
[09:07]  * dholbach hugs barry
[09:08] <barry> dholbach: :)  wiki is warning you have a lock on the page
[09:08] <rbasak> doko: ok, np
[09:08] <dholbach> barry, updated the timetable :)
[09:08] <barry> dholbach: beauty!
[09:32] <zyga> mvo, hi
[09:32] <zyga> mvo, quick question
[09:32] <zyga> mvo, if I wanted to add some dependencies to c-n-f would you rather see me bundling them with the code or packaging as separate entities?
[10:46] <hrw> do someone has working "Ctrl-a a" (switch window) or "Ctrl-a A" (rename window) in byobu under precise?
[10:50] <hallyn> hrw: yes
[10:51] <hrw> hallyn: with tmux backend?
[10:51] <mvo> zyga: hi, depends on the dependency, if its just used in c-n-f I guess bundling is fine, but generally it should be its own package
[10:51] <hallyn> hrw: maybe you need to hit f9 to turn on screen emulation?
[10:51] <hallyn> yup
[10:51] <hallyn> the only glitches i have are: need ctrl-a [ (not ctrl-a ctrl-[ or ctrl-a esc) to turn on copy mode,
[10:51] <zyga> mvo, right now it's just for cnf but I have a module cooking that will be used in more things
[10:52] <hallyn> and need to hit return (can't hit space) in copy mode to finish a copy
[10:52] <zyga> mvo, ok, thanks for the answer then
[10:52] <hrw> hallyn: F9 is byobu configuration
[10:53] <hrw> and first thing which I did was Shift-F12 to get my Fkeys back ;D
[11:31] <cking> pitti, if I find any more battery sucking bugs what's the best way to get it flagged up for some attention?
[11:31] <pitti> cking: from my POV, tagging with battery-power-consumption will do
[11:32] <cking> pitti, cool, works for me too
[11:32] <pitti> Good morninghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-power-consumption the other day
[11:32] <pitti> cking: i. e. the project; you can mark the bugs as "also affects u-p-c", then some more interested people will be notified
[11:33] <cking> cool :-)
[11:36] <dholbach> I'm organising Ubuntu Developer Week right now - could anyone imagine giving a session about NBS and fixing stuff in there?
[11:37] <dholbach> this time we offer 30m session as well
[11:39] <cjwatson> I'm not sure that would make an interesting topic?
[11:40] <cjwatson> "Sometimes you need to rebuild stuff against new library versions.  This page lists the problems.  On occasion you may have to fix build failures too."
[11:44] <dholbach> cjwatson, ok, I was just wondering if this was something where we wanted to get people to help out
[11:45] <cjwatson> It's easy if you're already a developer, and the fixes tend to be adding a changelog entry and uploading so not very interesting to go through the sponsorship process for
[11:45] <YokoZar> Hmm, Ubiquity is crashing in vmware....is there a virtual machine player that currently works with 12.04?
[11:46] <dholbach> cjwatson, I guess you're right
[11:53] <ahasenack> hi guys, someone around to take a look at my SRU for python-tz? for lucid, maverick, natty and oneiric, packages are in the upload queue awaiting review
[11:53] <ahasenack> the bug is #885163
[11:54] <tumbleweed> ahasenack: usually the SRU upload queue is reviewed every morning
[11:54] <tumbleweed> I'm assuming this hasn't happened because of the sprint
[12:08] <ahasenack> tumbleweed: right, I'm pinging here a few times a day, every day, in the hopes of catching someone :)
[12:24] <hrw> someone know where chromium 16 or newer for precise can be fetched by apt?
[12:56] <pitti> hrw: frankly, I'd download it from upstream; chromium has been unmaintained for quite a while now
[12:56] <pitti> you are better off with installing/upgrading from upstream
[12:57] <hrw> pitti: thx
[12:57] <cjwatson> Are we going to get a new (installable) libreoffice-l10n shortly?
[12:58] <pitti> cjwatson: yes, Sweetshark is working on it
[12:59] <cjwatson> good, thanks
[13:03] <semiosis> soren: ping?
[13:15] <Sweetshark> cjwatson: no libreoffice-l10n, but a libreoffice source including l10n binaries
[13:15] <Sweetshark> cjwatson: hopefully soon, Im looking into it.
[13:17] <hallyn> tyhicks: bzr branch lp:~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/precise/util-linux/fix-getty-on-pts; cd fix-getty-on-pts; bzr bd; then install the resulting util-linux .deb in the guest, and see if virsh console works.
[13:20] <cjwatson> Sweetshark: OK
[13:24] <tyhicks> hallyn: I'm pretty sure that we determined the problem was *not* in the guest, right?
[13:24] <tyhicks> hallyn: Either way, I'm in the process of building/testing
[13:24] <hallyn> tyhicks: no, if libvirt-qemu consoles are on /dev/pts, then there is no doubt htat getty will fail in the guest.
[13:30] <soren> semiosis: Yes?
[13:32] <semiosis> soren: greetings.  i've been working on the debian package of glusterfs and i saw your name on the ubuntu launchpad page for the package, so wanted to ask you a couple things
[13:33] <semiosis> soren: i updated the debian package so the newest version, 3.2.5, builds ok.  i put in a sync request to pull it from debian unstable into precise
[13:33] <semiosis> soren: wondering if there's anything else needed to help that along
[13:34] <semiosis> soren: another thing, once precise gets the latest version, i'd like to set up a merge to replace the debian initscript (debian/glusterfs-server.init) with an ubuntu upstart job (debian/glusterfs-server.upstart)
[13:34] <semiosis> soren: just curious if you have any input on these issues
[13:36] <semiosis> that initscript/upstart switch fixes an ubuntu bug which is due to how upstart/mountall/fstab works
[13:37] <semiosis> i have a bug open for that in ubuntu & maintain packages with the upstart job in a ppa & have contributed it upstream
[13:38] <semiosis> people have been using it & feedback is positive
[13:41] <tyhicks> hallyn: That didn't fix the problem :/
[13:42] <tyhicks> hallyn: I just realized there's no possible way that it is an issue in the guest
[13:42] <tyhicks> hallyn: I should be able to see the grub serial output
[13:42] <tyhicks> hallyn: That would be way before getty kicks in
[13:43] <hallyn> tyhicks: ok can you file a bug and attach your guest .xml?
[13:44] <tyhicks> hallyn: Yes - thanks for taking a look
[14:17] <soren> semiosis: Sorry, family arrived home, got distracted :)
[14:18] <ScottK> pitti: Did you get my ping re the KDE SC 4.7.4 SRU (understand if you don't have time to deal with it right away)?
[14:18] <soren> semiosis: Do you have the bug number for that sync request?
[14:18] <pitti> ScottK: I got the ping, but kinda busy here :/
[14:18] <ScottK> pitti: Sure thing.
[14:18]  * ScottK waits ....
[14:19] <soren> semiosis: Never mind, found it.
[14:19] <soren> semiosis: And ACKed it.
[14:20] <semiosis> thanks!
[14:20] <soren> semiosis: You can ping me (or someone else on the server team) when you have the upstart-job-adding patch that needs sponsoring. You don't sound like you need any help besides sponsorship, correct?
[14:22] <semiosis> soren: i think that is correct.  i'm going to make a branch of the package in launchpad with the modification, then not sure what to do next
[14:22] <semiosis> i'm following http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/fixing-a-bug.html
[14:23] <semiosis> i guess just "propose for merging" like it says at the end
[14:23] <soren> semiosis: Sounds about right :)
[14:23] <semiosis> soren: great! thanks again for your help.
[15:48] <beuno> pitti, o/
[15:48] <beuno> what does this mean?
[15:48] <beuno> No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[15:49] <pitti> beuno: that the same program already crashed 3 times today, and it's refusing to spam you more
[15:49] <ogra_> why doesnt it say that ?
[15:50] <beuno> pitti, interestingly, it hasn't
[15:50]  * ogra_ was wondering the same thing in the past, would be nice if the message would be less cryptic
[15:50] <beuno> (crashed before today)
[15:51] <beuno> pitti, this is on upgrading packages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/801862/
[16:03] <pitti> beuno: ah, during package updates
[16:04] <pitti> beuno: I think apt only creates a report for the first breakage, to avoid filing bugs for everything that fails on the broken dependency
[16:04] <beuno> pitti, right. In my case, it hasn't created any reports for any breakages. Unless it talks to the interwebs and sees if other people had the same problem
[16:04] <pitti> beuno: no, it doesn't
[16:05] <pitti> beuno: what's the contents of /var/crash/ ?
[16:05] <dobey> report as in thing in /var/crash, yeah, not filed on bugs.lp
[16:05] <beuno> pitti, https://pastebin.canonical.com/58036/
[16:07] <pitti> hmm
[16:07] <pitti> beuno: seems mvo is not online, he should know the details (that string is from apt)
[16:25] <ahasenack> hi guys, someone around to take a look at my SRU for python-tz? for lucid, maverick, natty and oneiric, packages are in the upload queue awaiting review
[16:25] <ahasenack> the bug is #885163
[16:27] <cjwatson> ahasenack: I'm looking at it now
[16:27] <ahasenack> cjwatson: thanks!
[16:27] <cjwatson> (actually had been for a little while before you asked, coincidentally)
[16:28] <ScottK> Laney: requestsync should probably be modified to raise an error if a sync request that is not an FFe nor needs sponsoring needs filing.
[16:30] <Laney> ScottK: it prints a warning ATM
[16:30] <ScottK> OK.
[17:01] <roadmr> cjwatson: hi! I'm seeing a huge slowdown in germinate, rev376 took ~2 minutes to germinate oneiric ubuntu-desktop, whereas the latest version takes over one hour. I thought I'd ask you first to see if this is a known issue.
[17:08] <cjwatson> roadmr: no, quite the opposite in general
[17:09] <cjwatson> roadmr: the new germinate was one of the major things that got Ubuntu publisher runtime down to under 30 minutes; although that was in a particular mode and I expected a very slight slowdown in general, but I've been timing it all along on my system and I don't see anything like that kind of slowdown
[17:09] <cjwatson> roadmr: perhaps I could have a bug report with details?
[17:11] <roadmr> cjwatson: certainly! I tried to file here but couldn't (https://bugs.launchpad.net/germinate)
[17:12] <cjwatson> roadmr: use the Ubuntu package, please
[17:13] <roadmr> cjwatson: ok, my dumb self should have thought of that :) I'll file a bug shortly. Thanks!
[18:45] <jtaylor> doko: python and python2.7 now provide python-argparse, that causes build issues when one b-depends on python-argparse
[18:45] <jtaylor> shouldn't only one of them provide it?
[19:21] <ScottK> lamont: Could we have postfix 2.8.7 in precise so I can push it to natty/oneiric updates before we get 2.9.0 here shortly?
[20:36] <bdrung> cjwatson, Laney, tumbleweed: nice syncpackage announcement
[20:48] <tumbleweed> bdrung: can't say I added much to it :)
[23:41] <cjwatson> barry: just reading https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-p-python-versions, I hope the "kill it off" against python-debian doesn't actually mean killing it but rather making update-manager not use it, or something?  it's a very useful set of packages
[23:41] <cjwatson> (and e.g. Launchpad uses it a fair bit)
[23:42] <barry> cjwatson: yep, exactly
[23:42] <cjwatson> phew
[23:42] <barry> :)