[00:15] <ScottL> ho crap, i completely missed these conversations at work
[00:17] <ScottL> thanks astraljava, holstein , and charlie for working together to get the meeting setup on launchpad
[00:18] <ScottL> astraljava, did you go to #ubuntu-meeting and talk with QA?
[00:20] <astraljava> ScottL: I'm supposed to sleep already, but yeah, I did. Just said we haven't really done much testing recently. Told I'd try to keep better eye on things, and try to communicate better with the QA team.
[04:56] <ScottL> argh, i'm having trouble getting the -default-settings package to build
[04:57] <ScottL> aparently the makefile is creating a /debian/ubuntustudio-default-settings/etc directly instead of /debian/tmp/etc
[04:57] <ScottL> i also build the xubuntu-default-settings and saw that it built /debian/tmp/etc correctly and will try tomorrow to figure out why it's different
[04:58] <ScottL> i'm comparing the xubuntu package against the ubuntu studio since i'm basically rebasing on the xubuntu stuff
[05:56] <astraljava> ScottL: If you can push that, I could also take a look.
[13:32] <ailo> Is lowlatency being included this time around?
[13:33] <ailo> In the main repo, that is
[15:27]  * holstein ^5's ailo !
[15:29] <ailo> What's up holstein?
[15:29] <holstein> not much at all
[15:29] <holstein> busy, which is good
[15:29] <holstein> i had a couple days off... enough time to get sick :/
[15:30] <holstein> but im feeling beter
[15:30] <holstein> better*
[15:30] <ailo> I just recovered from a flu myself
[15:30] <ailo> Get it once a year
[15:32] <ailo> Busy is good
[15:32] <ailo> holstein, No idea about what's happening with getting lowlatency into the main repo?
[15:32] <holstein> having the flu makes one appreciate *not* having the flu ;)
[15:32] <holstein> ailo: im not sure
[15:33] <ailo> Seemed like the guy who took initiative on leading tests for the kernel backed out
[15:34] <ailo> Steve Conklin. Lack of time, I'm sure
[15:34] <ailo> But who's going to father it in?
[15:35] <ailo> Who's going to mentor it and get it uploaded into the repo?
[15:35] <holstein> ailo: these are great questions!
[15:36] <ailo> Such a shame if it doesn't happen
[15:37] <ailo> holstein, You're still on Lucid with your production machine, right?
[15:38] <holstein> ailo: yup
[15:39] <ailo> My favorite quote right now is "Yeah, but can he play smoke on the water"
[15:39] <ailo> Somebody commented on Yngwie Malmsteen. 
[15:39] <holstein> lol
[15:40] <holstein> thats what they say about me, kind of
[15:40] <ailo> haha
[15:40] <holstein> "yeah, but can he play 'smoke on the water'"
[15:40] <holstein> its in all the papers
[15:41] <holstein> the interesting thing is, if i played 'smoke on the water', it would totally be more lucrative ;)
[15:41] <holstein> as a friend once said, "theres no accounting for taste"
[15:42] <ailo> People like to say about some commercial styles of music, that it isn't hard to make it
[15:42] <ailo> And they are often right
[15:42] <ailo> But, music is not hard to make
[15:43] <ailo> It's a matter of choice, and character
[15:43] <ailo> You do what you do
[15:43] <ailo> Money is a welcome effect
[15:44] <holstein> yup
[15:44] <holstein> doing what folks already know makes it arguably easier though
[15:46] <ailo> Sure. Everything is standardized, and you don't have to spend as much energy to get everything working
[15:47] <scott-work> astraljava: i'm going to dig through it some tonight but if i can't get it i'll push it to bzr for you to look at
[15:47] <scott-work> thanks for offering
[15:48] <scott-work> ailo: i need to package the lowlatency kernel for REVU, aboganni has it ready
[15:48] <scott-work> ailo: themuso committed to getting it reviewed, so we still need one more person
[15:48] <scott-work> which i think we have the momentum and publicity to get it done :)
[15:49] <ailo> Sounds great
[15:49] <holstein> scott-work: i'll do that
[15:49] <holstein> let me know
[15:49] <holstein> we need that kernel
[15:49] <holstein> i can start later today if needed
[15:49] <holstein> anyways.. gottta run!
[15:51] <ailo> scott-work, The second reviewer must be a MOTU or Ubuntu dev, right?
[15:51] <micahg> no, MOTU or core-dev
[15:51] <micahg> well, anyone can review, only those 2 can ACK for upload though
[15:54] <ailo> If anyone can do it, then any one of us could help with that then
[15:55] <ailo> scott-work, How's the roadmap coming along? Sorry I couldn't be of much help for this and the last release
[16:09] <scott-work> ailo: we have plans for this cycle.....
[16:09] <scott-work> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-precise-flavor-ubuntu-studio
[16:09] <scott-work> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-ubuntu-studio.html
[16:09] <scott-work> i'm still working on a long plan, but first i need to get through some stuff for this cycle
[16:10] <scott-work> micahg: i tried to build the packages last night, all worked but the last and i'm working trhough it
[16:10] <scott-work> micahg: if i can't figure it out tonight then astraljava offered to look at it as well
[16:17] <ailo> scott-work, Great overview
[16:17] <ailo> Should help a lot
[16:19] <scott-work> ailo: i hope so, but i think shnatsel deserves most of the credit for pushing the use of blueprints
[16:20] <scott-work> my goal is to get the theme-ui changes pushed before this weekend to bzr
[16:20] <scott-work> then i do a personal sprint on the website this weekend because rt@ubuntu is making noise about moving it to a staging area now (yay!)
[16:21] <ailo> scott-work, You get easier access that way?
[16:21] <scott-work> then i'll start again on the seeds and ubiquity, which colin watson is waiting on me for information
[16:21] <scott-work> ailo: i have access to the current website now, knome is hosting a development site currently for us which will be moved to the staging area
[16:22] <scott-work> and at some point i need to see about getting the -lowlatency kernel packaged and pushing into REVU
[16:22] <ailo> It just has to happen
[16:22] <ailo> It would really make things brighter for audio in Ubuntu land
[16:23] <scott-work> i will do the kernel then after i get the website push done and before the seeds/ubiquity
[16:23] <ailo> I haven't tried Ubuntu Studio yet, but it seems you are integrating pa with jack now
[16:23] <scott-work> although i had wanted the seeds/live-dvd ready for A2 *shrug*  the lowlatency kernel is more important
[16:24] <scott-work> ailo: aye, part of that is built on work that david henningsonn (sp?) has done and a talk i had with him at uds to understand it ;)
[16:25] <ailo> scott-work, Any addititions for studio specific settings that matters? I've yet not tested cpu governor effects fully
[16:25] <ailo> Still no controls application :/. Such things would be great to include there
[16:27] <ailo> It would have been the perfect time to have one ready. Unfortunately, I did not have the time at all this time around
[16:27] <scott-work> ailo: no, not at this point, i'm just focusing on getting the foundations functional and acceptable
[16:27] <scott-work> i.e. lowlatency, good solid package choices, friendly and current theme-ui
[16:27] <ailo> Yea, solid and simple is the way to go
[19:18] <shnatsel> scott-work: pushing use of blueprints? I've just dropped the idea :)
[19:45] <astraljava> Dropped the idea? Why? It's a good thing, at least in my opinion, and seems like Scott's, too.
[19:58] <scott-work> astraljava: i think he meant that he just "mentioned" the idea to me rather than "pushed" the idea
[19:58] <astraljava> Ahh... but of course. :)