[00:15] ho crap, i completely missed these conversations at work [00:17] thanks astraljava, holstein , and charlie for working together to get the meeting setup on launchpad [00:18] astraljava, did you go to #ubuntu-meeting and talk with QA? [00:20] ScottL: I'm supposed to sleep already, but yeah, I did. Just said we haven't really done much testing recently. Told I'd try to keep better eye on things, and try to communicate better with the QA team. [04:56] argh, i'm having trouble getting the -default-settings package to build [04:57] aparently the makefile is creating a /debian/ubuntustudio-default-settings/etc directly instead of /debian/tmp/etc [04:57] i also build the xubuntu-default-settings and saw that it built /debian/tmp/etc correctly and will try tomorrow to figure out why it's different [04:58] i'm comparing the xubuntu package against the ubuntu studio since i'm basically rebasing on the xubuntu stuff [05:56] ScottL: If you can push that, I could also take a look. [13:32] Is lowlatency being included this time around? [13:33] In the main repo, that is [15:27] * holstein ^5's ailo ! [15:29] What's up holstein? [15:29] not much at all [15:29] busy, which is good [15:29] i had a couple days off... enough time to get sick :/ [15:30] but im feeling beter [15:30] better* [15:30] I just recovered from a flu myself [15:30] Get it once a year [15:32] Busy is good [15:32] holstein, No idea about what's happening with getting lowlatency into the main repo? [15:32] having the flu makes one appreciate *not* having the flu ;) [15:32] ailo: im not sure [15:33] Seemed like the guy who took initiative on leading tests for the kernel backed out [15:34] Steve Conklin. Lack of time, I'm sure [15:34] But who's going to father it in? [15:35] Who's going to mentor it and get it uploaded into the repo? [15:35] ailo: these are great questions! [15:36] Such a shame if it doesn't happen [15:37] holstein, You're still on Lucid with your production machine, right? [15:38] ailo: yup [15:39] My favorite quote right now is "Yeah, but can he play smoke on the water" [15:39] Somebody commented on Yngwie Malmsteen. [15:39] lol [15:40] thats what they say about me, kind of [15:40] haha [15:40] "yeah, but can he play 'smoke on the water'" [15:40] its in all the papers [15:41] the interesting thing is, if i played 'smoke on the water', it would totally be more lucrative ;) [15:41] as a friend once said, "theres no accounting for taste" [15:42] People like to say about some commercial styles of music, that it isn't hard to make it [15:42] And they are often right [15:42] But, music is not hard to make [15:43] It's a matter of choice, and character [15:43] You do what you do [15:43] Money is a welcome effect [15:44] yup [15:44] doing what folks already know makes it arguably easier though [15:46] Sure. Everything is standardized, and you don't have to spend as much energy to get everything working [15:47] astraljava: i'm going to dig through it some tonight but if i can't get it i'll push it to bzr for you to look at [15:47] thanks for offering [15:48] ailo: i need to package the lowlatency kernel for REVU, aboganni has it ready [15:48] ailo: themuso committed to getting it reviewed, so we still need one more person [15:48] which i think we have the momentum and publicity to get it done :) [15:49] Sounds great [15:49] scott-work: i'll do that [15:49] let me know [15:49] we need that kernel [15:49] i can start later today if needed [15:49] anyways.. gottta run! [15:51] scott-work, The second reviewer must be a MOTU or Ubuntu dev, right? [15:51] no, MOTU or core-dev [15:51] well, anyone can review, only those 2 can ACK for upload though [15:54] If anyone can do it, then any one of us could help with that then [15:55] scott-work, How's the roadmap coming along? Sorry I couldn't be of much help for this and the last release [16:09] ailo: we have plans for this cycle..... [16:09] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-precise-flavor-ubuntu-studio [16:09] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-ubuntu-studio.html [16:09] i'm still working on a long plan, but first i need to get through some stuff for this cycle [16:10] micahg: i tried to build the packages last night, all worked but the last and i'm working trhough it [16:10] micahg: if i can't figure it out tonight then astraljava offered to look at it as well [16:17] scott-work, Great overview [16:17] Should help a lot [16:19] ailo: i hope so, but i think shnatsel deserves most of the credit for pushing the use of blueprints [16:20] my goal is to get the theme-ui changes pushed before this weekend to bzr [16:20] then i do a personal sprint on the website this weekend because rt@ubuntu is making noise about moving it to a staging area now (yay!) [16:21] scott-work, You get easier access that way? [16:21] then i'll start again on the seeds and ubiquity, which colin watson is waiting on me for information [16:21] ailo: i have access to the current website now, knome is hosting a development site currently for us which will be moved to the staging area [16:22] and at some point i need to see about getting the -lowlatency kernel packaged and pushing into REVU [16:22] It just has to happen [16:22] It would really make things brighter for audio in Ubuntu land [16:23] i will do the kernel then after i get the website push done and before the seeds/ubiquity [16:23] I haven't tried Ubuntu Studio yet, but it seems you are integrating pa with jack now [16:23] although i had wanted the seeds/live-dvd ready for A2 *shrug* the lowlatency kernel is more important [16:24] ailo: aye, part of that is built on work that david henningsonn (sp?) has done and a talk i had with him at uds to understand it ;) [16:25] scott-work, Any addititions for studio specific settings that matters? I've yet not tested cpu governor effects fully [16:25] Still no controls application :/. Such things would be great to include there [16:27] It would have been the perfect time to have one ready. Unfortunately, I did not have the time at all this time around [16:27] ailo: no, not at this point, i'm just focusing on getting the foundations functional and acceptable [16:27] i.e. lowlatency, good solid package choices, friendly and current theme-ui [16:27] Yea, solid and simple is the way to go [19:18] scott-work: pushing use of blueprints? I've just dropped the idea :) [19:45] Dropped the idea? Why? It's a good thing, at least in my opinion, and seems like Scott's, too. [19:58] astraljava: i think he meant that he just "mentioned" the idea to me rather than "pushed" the idea [19:58] Ahh... but of course. :)