[01:10] <pwnedulongtime_> anyone having a problem in 11.10 with xfce power manager not respecting the AC lid close preference?
[01:17] <holstein> pwnedulongtime: make sure you have it set for the mode you are in
[01:17] <holstein> plugged in or on battery
[01:18] <pwnedulongtime> nevermind
[01:18] <pwnedulongtime> dconf-tools solved it
[01:18] <holstein> :)
[01:19] <pwnedulongtime> should be part of the default install really
[01:19] <holstein> pwnedulongtime: *-devel would be a place i would start grinding an axe like that... maybe the devel mailing list
[03:59] <jsoft> What xdm/gdm/wahtever does xubuntu use?
[04:03] <Unit193> jsoft: What version?
[04:03] <ball> Is there any video editing software for Xubuntu? I'm not looking for anything elaborate, just want to add titles at the front and perhaps prune some sections out (home video editing).
[04:03] <jsoft> Unit193: 11
[04:04] <Unit193> 11.10 or 11.04? There isn't 11. 11.04 = GDM and 11.10 = LightDM
[04:05] <jsoft> 11.10
[04:05] <jsoft> hmm
[04:05] <Unit193> ball: I thought PiTiVi could, but I don't edit movies
[04:06] <holstein> ball: openshot, ^ pitivi, kdenlive
[04:07] <holstein> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/top5-linux-video-editing-system-software/
[04:07] <Unit193> Hey, I hit one!
[04:07] <holstein> hehe
[04:08] <Unit193> What? You know I don't have the hardware for it
[04:08] <holstein> i really liked kdenlive, though avidemux is one ive been using since windows
[04:14] <ball> holstein: Thanks
[05:58] <jsoft> hmm, xubuntu looks kinda slick
[10:58] <augustl> seems like xubuntu has patched pidgin to use a different icon, a purple speech bubble
[10:58] <augustl> and it seems that this patched pidgin doesn't change the icon when I have an unread message
[10:59] <augustl> how can I make pidgin use its built-in icon?
[10:59] <augustl> by icon I mean notification bar icon btw
[10:59] <augustl> or is it status bar? Anyways..
[11:23] <larstr> how come this bug is still unassigned? It's very annoying. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/876198
[11:24] <larstr> focus still remains on old workspace
[11:28] <jsoft> What should I use to set the cpu-frequency I want?
[11:29] <jsoft> (ie, for my laptop)
[11:39] <Marzata> cube rotate?
[11:46] <dharri> this rooms quiet I guess everyone is very happy with Xubuntu
[11:46] <knome> mostly, yes
[11:47] <dharri> mostly? why what are you having problems with?
[11:48] <Marzata> what problems?
[11:49] <dharri> ok as Xubuntu is running fine for everyone I'll leave
[11:50] <Marzata> you came to help us?
[11:50] <knome> there is people lurking out and stepping up if somebody needs help
[14:37] <dommer> anyone wanna tell me how wine is supposed to work?
[14:49] <Marzata> wine-dows?
[14:51] <craigbass1976> Here's a dumb question...  Where's volume control in lucid?
[14:52] <dommer> lol
[14:53] <craigbass1976> forgot a bout alsamixer...
[14:53] <dommer> main tool bar?
[14:53] <dommer> X3
[14:54] <craigbass1976> I don't  see anything anywhere.  No speaker icon on the bar, nothing in the menu.  Someone could have monkeyed with the computer though
[14:56] <dommer> go to the  bar, right click, add objects, volume :|
[15:00] <tappi> i'm trying to install ubuntu using "xubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso" loaded with unetbootin to a usb-memory stick
[15:00] <dommer> aaaannnnnnd
[15:01] <tappi> i get the splash screen, and pick the "install xubuntu" option, after that i get the xubuntu logo for a second and a ash shell loads
[15:01] <tappi> and nothing happens, the command line reads (initframs) _ with the _ being the cursor
[15:01] <dommer> hmm
[15:02] <dommer> write to a disc or get a wsus copy on your usb
[15:02] <hobgoblin> I'd check the iso md5sum unless it was a torrent download
[15:02] <tappi> hmm true
[15:03] <hobgoblin> mostly because all but one of the issues I've eve had has been a dodgy d/load :)
[15:03] <dommer> ha
[15:04] <dommer> or just get it off the site?
[15:05] <hobgoblin> dommer: I've had dodgy d/loads from the site in the past
[15:05] <tappi> i get 5eaf65ba12f74b6c5b912cce2dae1762 and i think the official file has these http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/11.10/release/MD5SUMS
[15:05] <dommer> I have 10.04 :) LTS ftw
[15:05] <hobgoblin> then it's not that then :)
[15:05] <tappi> indeed
[15:05] <tappi> what's wsus?
[15:05] <dommer> I'd like to get fiesty fawn to see what went fffffffff with it
[15:06] <dommer> wsus is a loader for inside of windows, but I've found its a guaranteed back up for installs
[15:07] <dommer> no crashes
[15:08] <dommer> so essentually a hack for installing of of discs and USB easier
[15:08] <tappi> link?`
[15:09] <dommer> a buy xubuntu 11.10 add :| nope
[15:10] <dommer> have you ever installed linux inside windows?
[15:10] <dommer> when you pop the disc in and the window pops up that's wsus
[15:10] <dommer> esentualy
[15:11] <tappi> i have not
[15:11] <hobgoblin> wubi like is it
[15:11] <dommer> WUBI
[15:12] <dommer> that's it
[15:12] <dommer> god I'm forgetting shit lately
[15:37] <mongy> not any problems when making the /boot partition for my external encrypted hd if I make it fat32 is there?
[17:01] <SimonP86> hi, I have a Xubuntu 11.04 Virtualbox VM which won't boot.  if I try to start the Xubuntu guest in 'Recovery mode' then it stalls on the line saying "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done."
[17:04] <autif> see if you can send Ctrl-Alt-F1, Ctrl-Alt-F2 etc key combinations to the VM, if you can, may be you can look at the system log?
[18:52] <Guest31464> how i can change permission to editing my autorun file ? is sudo chmod 444 and sudo chmod 004 is god idea?
[18:53] <holstein> Guest31464: i would just sudo edit the file
[18:53] <holstein> sudo nano path/to/file
[18:53] <holstein> i would make a proper backup
[18:54] <Guest31464> sorry?
[18:54] <Guest31464> what you mean?
[18:54] <Guest31464> sorry0
[18:54] <Guest31464> to cancel editing)
[18:54] <holstein> Guest31464: dont make the file editable by you
[18:54] <holstein> just become sudo and edit the file
[18:54] <Guest31464> *cancel
[18:54] <holstein> Guest31464: im just saying what i would do
[18:55] <Guest31464> holstein: no. i need to block editing of this file. how i can do this?
[18:55] <Guest31464> i want to make permission than  block editing of this file.
[18:56] <holstein> Guest31464: sudo nano /path/to/file opens the file as root in nano
[18:56] <holstein> thats a commandline text editor
[18:56] <holstein> if you wanted to open it in gedit...
[18:56] <Guest31464> i undrestand)
[18:56] <Guest31464> no
[18:56] <holstein> gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[18:56] <Guest31464> i want to lock any editing of this file in future
[18:56] <holstein> gksudo leafpad... whatever
[18:57] <charlie-tca> Make it read only, as in r--r--r--
[18:57] <charlie-tca> But even that is not foolproof for those with the password
[18:57] <charlie-tca> It just stops any accidental changes, and cause the system to fail because sometimes root needs to be able to change files
[18:59] <Guest31464> charlie-tca: i want to try block autorun in this way on my usb-drive and then use it on windows machins with troyans an viruses ..
[19:00] <charlie-tca> That's easy in Linux. Make it owned by root. But I don't know how you will do it using it on windows. that would be better asked in ##windows
[19:03] <Guest31464> charlie-tca: i know tha there is some permission that blok editind to anyone. for root too. in grub files for example as i know in last ubuntu. what this permission/
[19:03] <Guest31464> ?
[19:04] <holstein> Guest31464: root should be able to change those permissions back, or whatever
[19:04] <holstein> you dont give away root access lightly
[19:05] <Guest31464> so what number of this acces? 444 ?
[19:06] <Guest31464> *permission
[19:06] <holstein> for root olny?
[19:07] <Guest31464> holstein: for anyone bloking
[19:07] <holstein> Guest31464: i would reference https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[19:07] <Guest31464> permission that block editing for anyone
[19:07] <holstein> Guest31464: you cant really block root
[19:07] <holstein> thats the point of root.. all access
[19:08] <TVasEyes> Guest31464: do you mean 'immutable'?  see chattr
[19:08] <Guest31464> i know that root kan change this permission but if he dont change it - it cant change file. or no?
[19:09] <Guest31464> *can
[19:09] <Guest31464> TVasEyes: what you mean? i dont fully understand(
[19:10] <holstein> Guest31464: maybe you should share the overall vision... could be there is a much easier way to do this
[19:10] <TVasEyes> man 1 chattr, immutable bit.
[19:10] <Guest31464> TVasEyes: may be i dont know what it is (
[19:10] <Guest31464> but may be i mean it
[19:11] <TVasEyes> it's a way of preventing a file being changed (made *immutable*), anyway, man page explains all.
[19:14] <Guest31464> thanks for help. but now its too hard to undertand for me this man(
[19:17] <autif> Guest31464 - try the command "chattr +i autorun"
[19:17] <autif> then see if it did everything you wanted it to do
[19:17] <Guest31464> with  sudo?
[19:18] <autif> yes
[19:18] <autif> TVasEyes - I learnt something today - thanks!
[19:19] <go8765> autif: chattr: Неприменимый к данному устройству ioctl while reading flags on autorun.inf
[19:22] <TVasEyes> autif: cool.
[19:22] <TVasEyes> go8765: is this file on at FAT fs?
[19:22] <autif> go8765 - are you sure that you disk is in good state?
[19:22] <autif> ah that would also do it
[19:27] <go8765> TVasEyes: yes. system monitor say that this is vfat
[19:27] <go8765> autif: i think that my usb-drive is good now
[19:28] <TVasEyes> then you won't be able to use the extended attributes, sorry.  444 (ie r/o for all) would seem to be your only option.
[19:28] <autif> I dont think you can make a file immutable in non unix file systems
[19:28] <autif> you need ext2/3/4
[19:34] <go8765> ok. thanks for answers)
[19:53] <TVasEyes> go8765|off:  "use it on windows" - you could use ext2/3 fs on your usb and install ifs on Windoze (http://www.fs-driver.org/).  should give you a little more protection ;)
[19:56] <YoHoMoJo> hey can anyone help me running bitcoin?
[19:57] <charlie-tca> !bitcoin
[21:00] <SpiKe_Spiegel> hi everyone
[21:01] <SpiKe_Spiegel> Is someone else using Spotify with Xubuntu ?
[21:02] <holstein> last time i checked, i wasnt 'allowed'.. whats the issue SpiKe_Spiegel ?
[21:02] <SpiKe_Spiegel> I can't access Spotify menubar - and the Spotify indicator is blinking when I click on the menu
[21:03] <SpiKe_Spiegel> I don't have the globalmenu plugin installed
[21:03] <holstein> you could ask in #opensourcemusicians
[21:03] <holstein> for things like that, i usually look for something to remove from the /home directory... some config file that has gotten funky
[21:03] <SpiKe_Spiegel> I'll ask them, thanks for the channel
[21:04] <holstein> SpiKe_Spiegel: why cant you access the menu?
[21:04] <SpiKe_Spiegel> I already tried to remove config files
[21:04] <holstein> can you hold alt and drag the window around?
[21:04] <SpiKe_Spiegel> I can access every menu but Spotify's one
[21:04] <SpiKe_Spiegel> yep for alt
[21:04] <holstein> and i assume you've reinstalled...
[21:05] <SpiKe_Spiegel> yep
[21:05] <holstein> not sure.. its tough with partially developed and supported apps like that
[21:05] <SpiKe_Spiegel> also, I don't have any error in console
[21:06] <SpiKe_Spiegel> With Archlinux + Xfce, everything's OK, so this is really a Xubuntu issue
[21:06] <ubuntu_> hey guys
[21:06] <ubuntu_> I need help
[21:06] <ubuntu_> someone here?
[21:06] <ubuntu_> how can help me?
[21:07] <ubuntu_> Rightnow I'm on the boot menu
[21:07] <ubuntu_> And I click 100 times on install xubuntu shortcut at my desktop and It doesn't do anything
[21:07] <ubuntu_> what can I do?
[21:08] <ubuntu_> .?>......
[21:08] <Myrtti> please have patience
[21:08] <holstein> SpiKe_Spiegel: im not disagreeing with you, however, there are different version of pacakges in xubuntu and arch for spotify to 'disagree' with
[21:08] <Unit193> ubuntu_: One option would be to reboot and select "Install Xubuntu"
[21:08] <ubuntu_> It's 23:00 night here at my country so It's hard to be patiend when you have to go to school at 7 am..
[21:09] <ubuntu_> I did it
[21:09] <charlie-tca> ubuntu_: right click the shortcut, and wait for it to appear. Then left-click "execute" in the top of the menu that appears
[21:09] <ubuntu_> ok
[21:09] <ubuntu_> just a minute
[21:09] <holstein> ubuntu_: that is not the issue of anyone here... we are not paid for our services... your patients will be rewarded :)
[21:10] <holstein> ubuntu_: you can always try downloading and using the alternate ISO to install
[21:10] <ubuntu_> It's not open again
[21:10] <holstein> there are a couple ways to install from that live CD... you can choose install from the menu at boot
[21:10] <ubuntu_> Ok and sorry
[21:10] <SpiKe_Spiegel> you can also boot the live session and then install
[21:11] <ubuntu_> But I want to format my computer..
[21:11] <ubuntu_> A clean Installation..
[21:11] <ubuntu_> is there is a way to run it from the terminal?
[21:12] <ubuntu_> thank you very much for your help!
[21:12] <holstein> ubuntu_: you can format from the installer
[21:12] <holstein> no reason not to
[21:13] <ubuntu_> I want to format my hard drive
[21:13] <Myrtti> SpiKe_Spiegel: btw you haven't even told us if you're running Spotify in Wine or if you're running the native Linux version - in anycase people in the #spotify may have a better idea what's going on. Possibly.
[21:13] <charlie-tca> Which can be done with any of the above methods to install
[21:13] <charlie-tca> ubuntu_: it doesn't matter how the installer runs, formatting can still be done
[21:14] <ubuntu_> okkk
[21:14] <holstein> ubuntu_: right.. the installer will do that
[21:14] <ubuntu_> I'll try to format from ubuntu
[21:14] <ubuntu_> thank you....!
[21:14] <ubuntu_> bye bye have a good night/day!
[21:16] <SpiKe_Spiegel> Myrtti, I'm running the native client, I'll check the spotify channel (didn't know this channel exists :/ )
[21:27] <liron_> Hey I'm back
[21:27] <liron_> I'm at Ubuntu now
[21:27] <liron_> How I run the install on it?
[21:28] <liron_> Someone can help me on how to run Xubuntu Installation from a disc????
[21:28] <liron_> Without boot? thanks..
[21:29] <charlie-tca> without booting the cd?
[21:29] <charlie-tca> That could be difficult
[21:29] <liron_> On my Ubuntu
[21:29] <liron_> If I try to booting the cd
[21:29] <liron_> I click on  Install Xubuntu
[21:29] <liron_> It's open me a operation system
[21:30] <liron_> And then I CLick around 100 times on INstall xubuntu
[21:30] <liron_> and nothing happened..
[21:30] <Unit193> You're in Ubuntu with Gnome/Unity? If so, I'd try a !purexfce (Though, I prefer a clean install)
[21:30] <liron_> what can I do?
[21:30] <liron_> I prefer to
[21:30] <liron_> what is !pruexfce?
[21:30] <Unit193> !purexfce
[21:30] <liron_> You recommand me to try to boot from the disc?
[21:31] <liron_> and to try to do it again?
[21:31] <genii-around> !debootstrap
[21:31] <liron_> I think it's the best thing that I can to do
[21:32] <gry2> kernel crashed, I rebooted, where do I find logs please? I tried checking '/var/log/kern.log' but I'm not sure if the crash log is there, not all of the information is easy to understand
[21:32] <liron_> OKK I'll try booting again thank you
[21:32] <liron_> bye bye
[21:36] <autif> gry2 - try /var/log/
[21:36] <autif> there should be several dmesg.log files
[21:37] <autif> likewise, /var/log/ also has older kern.log file (kern.log.1, kern.log.2.gz etc)
[21:38] <gry2> hm
[21:39] <gry2> autif, kern.log is the latest one though or?
[21:39] <autif> yes, kern.log is the current boot - the one after the reboot
[21:43] <autif> i take that back - apparently one one boot cycle can span several kern.log files and one kern.log file can have several boot cycles. So, your best bet is to look for something at the start of all the kernel messages in a new boot cycle
[21:43] <autif> on my machine it is log source = /proc/kmsg
[21:45] <TVasEyes> autif, gry2: the timestamps in (kern)log files should help.
[21:51] <gry2> dmesg doesn't appear to have anything relevant at all, relevant part of kern.log is http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1446909 (I still don't understand if it contains the crash or not, but it's the part for today AND before the new boot)
[22:00] <autif> gry2 - sorry, it seems like everything looks fine in that part of the log (There is a stacktrace around line 218 - i am not sure what that is all about)
[22:00] <autif> It is not a kernel crash though
[22:22] <gry2> autif: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1447001 is /var/log/dmesg; other dmesg files are too old, not modified today, so not relevant either
[22:23] <gry2> oh, it didn't fit the paste size, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1447008 is the rest of it
[22:57] <gry2> autif: (if you have idea where to find the crash logs please let me know, I'm searching on the web but that does not work very well)