| === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat | ||
| average_guy | what packages do I need to install to get the appindicator in lubuntu 11.10? | 03:27 |
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| average_guy | i have dun it before, so I know it can be done.. | 03:28 |
| Unit193 | average_guy: Howdy, do you happen to be talking about lxpanel-indicator-applet-plugin ? | 03:59 |
| average_guy | howdy Unit193 didn't know you hung out over here too | 04:01 |
| Unit193 | I sure do | 04:01 |
| average_guy | I mean the the applet in the gnome panel like a drawer that holds tbird, gwibber, pidgin, etc. | 04:02 |
| average_guy | is that it? | 04:05 |
| Unit193 | I know it's disabled by default, and the LXDE one isn't as great | 04:07 |
| average_guy | I just tried to install it and it said I already have it | 04:08 |
| average_guy | yeah Unit193, I don't even get the point of the LXDE one | 04:10 |
| Unit193 | Give me a sec, working on something else too | 04:12 |
| average_guy | it's cool, I still googling | 04:12 |
| Unit193 | Are you looking for Right click panel > add/remove Indicator | 04:15 |
| average_guy | yes | 04:15 |
| average_guy | I mean, that where I WANT it to be | 04:16 |
| Unit193 | You don't see it in the "Add" list? | 04:17 |
| average_guy | you know how in GNOME it looks like an envelope? I want that Unit193 | 04:17 |
| average_guy | that just says "no indicators" | 04:18 |
| average_guy | when I open it | 04:18 |
| average_guy | I feel like last time I turned that one into what I'm shooting for | 04:20 |
| average_guy | somehow.. | 04:20 |
| Unit193 | Do you also have indicator-messages and | 04:21 |
| Unit193 | indicator-application | 04:21 |
| average_guy | yes I have them both installed | 04:24 |
| average_guy | sorry Unit193, busted it. Had to reboot.. | 04:36 |
| average_guy | ok, I think I here now | 04:40 |
| average_guy | actually Unit193, I think I've done enuf damage. I'll try again tomorrow. thx anyway | 04:44 |
| Unit193 | Heh sure, from what I can tell, that's what is supposed to get it to work, but I'll have a go at it in a VM | 04:44 |
| average_guy | alright, I'm at it again. There IS a way to get the appindicators like GNOME in lubuntu. Does anyone know what package I need to install? | 13:32 |
| bioterror | nope, we tend to like appindicators like in LXDE | 13:34 |
| bioterror | can you explain what do you mean like in GNOME | 13:34 |
| bioterror | +by | 13:34 |
| average_guy | an envelope in the panel that opens a drawer containing tbird, pidgin, quassel, etc. | 13:35 |
| average_guy | I installed something once that turned the indicator applet in the lxpanel into it | 13:36 |
| bioterror | I have no idea about the envelope | 13:38 |
| bioterror | and I have few gnome 3 computers running ;) | 13:40 |
| average_guy | http://imagecdn.maketecheasier.com/2011/09/oneiric-appindicator.jpg | 13:40 |
| average_guy | I want THAT | 13:40 |
| average_guy | Xfce has it.. | 15:28 |
| kvarley | How can I change the default desktop session? | 17:03 |
| Wulong | How can I make lubuntu automatically reconnect wifi network? | 19:43 |
| Wulong | It probably reconnect when it loses connection, but if it fails again it gives up like a little girl. | 19:44 |
| Wulong | cron solvable maybe? | 19:44 |
| MrChrisDruif | Unit193; you might have a solution for that? I can't remember seeing anything about that | 19:45 |
| Unit193 | Should be an option in nm-applet | 19:45 |
| Unit193 | Workaround, get a better router ;) | 19:46 |
| Wulong | nm-applet you say. So it's a Ubuntu issue. Not surprising. It has always been this stupid. | 19:46 |
| Wulong | Not my router. I'm just paying for access. | 19:46 |
| Wulong | I'd wish though. | 19:46 |
| wxl | i think i filed a bug for this if i understand you correctly | 19:47 |
| wxl | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/892454 | 19:48 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 892454 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "network-manager starts up with wireless disabled" [Undecided,New] | 19:48 |
| MrChrisDruif | I know there are other network-managers, but I always forget how they're called | 19:49 |
| Wulong | It connect's on startup. | 19:49 |
| wxl | Wulong: if that's consistent with your experience, please confirm | 19:49 |
| Wulong | I know about several others, but I'm not sure if they are as "light" or what. | 19:50 |
| * Unit193 just used /etc/networking for a while | 19:50 | |
| wxl | i tried one other one | 19:51 |
| wxl | i forgot the name of it | 19:51 |
| wxl | it was pretty but annoying | 19:51 |
| Wulong | wxl: don't seem the same. It connects automatically. | 19:51 |
| Unit193 | wxl: wicd? | 19:51 |
| wxl | Wulong: that's a strange one, then | 19:51 |
| Wulong | wifi radar | 19:51 |
| wxl | Unit193: yeah, hated it and it was a pita to uninstall | 19:51 |
| Wulong | PITA to uninstall.. sounds about right. Probably therefore I feel like skipping those. | 19:53 |
| Wulong | I'll supervise nm-applet and file a bug report if it doesnt improve. | 19:54 |
| wxl | Wulong: did you already search lp for a similar bug? | 19:54 |
| MrChrisDruif | wicd, that's the one I'm talking about | 19:55 |
| Wulong | I did not, but I have seen this as a problem and ideas on brainstorm for Ubuntu several times. | 19:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | Never used it thou | 19:55 |
| wxl | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/150180 ??? | 19:58 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 134660 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.24 (Ubuntu Hardy) "duplicate for #150180 Ralink rt2400 / rt2500 / rt2570 / rt61 / rt73 do not work out of the box in Gutsy/Hardy" [High,Fix released] | 19:58 |
| wxl | a cursory search reveals what i would suspect is people complaining of random dropouts which i'd say is more an isp/router sort of issue | 19:59 |
| wxl | but these are usually short | 20:00 |
| === Alcine is now known as jalcine | ||
| AmberJ | Hello | 21:22 |
| AmberJ | I used this to autostart programs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_into_Desktop | 21:23 |
| AmberJ | But pcmanfm won't start at boot...I instead get a (error) window saying "No such file or directory". | 21:23 |
| MrChrisDruif | AmberJ; what happens when you use that same pcmanfm.desktop to start pcmanfm? | 21:25 |
| MrChrisDruif | Are there other pcmanfm.desktop files in that folder? | 21:26 |
| * MrChrisDruif isn't using Lubuntu...again | 21:27 | |
| wxl | AmberJ: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXSession#Automatically_start_some_applications_on_login help? | 21:28 |
| AmberJ | MrChrisDruif, Which pcmanfm.desktop? the one in /usr/share/applications/ ? or, the one in ~/.config/autostart/ ? | 21:29 |
| wxl | actually | 21:29 |
| MrChrisDruif | /usr/share/applications/ | 21:29 |
| wxl | AmberJ: cat ~/.config/autostart/pcmanfm.desktop | pastebinit | 21:29 |
| wxl | and if you don't have pastebinit, install it | 21:29 |
| wxl | also If the name of an executable is specified without any path components then the $PATH environment is searched to find a matching executable program. | 21:30 |
| MrChrisDruif | Ghehe, wisecrack | 21:30 |
| wxl | well it's a good point! | 21:31 |
| wxl | i would expect $PATH to be set appropriately by then but perhaps not | 21:31 |
| wxl | /usr/bin/pcmanfm is what you wnat obviously | 21:31 |
| wxl | so your .desktop file would be: | 21:32 |
| wxl | Exec=/usr/bin/pcmanfm %U | 21:32 |
| wxl | (or would have, rather) | 21:32 |
| wxl | instead of Exec=pcmanfm %U | 21:32 |
| wxl | betcha that fixes it | 21:32 |
| AmberJ | wxl, http://paste.ubuntu.com/803462/ | 21:32 |
| AmberJ | wxl, 'pcmanfm' on terminal starts it fine. So, I guess the $PATH is set | 21:33 |
| wxl | but may not be at the point of doing autostart, AmberJ | 21:34 |
| AmberJ | Ok...let me try | 21:34 |
| AmberJ | So, I need to logout and log back in to test this? | 21:35 |
| MrChrisDruif | Prolly | 21:35 |
| AmberJ | Right let me logout...brb | 21:36 |
| AmberJ | wxl, No...I still get the same error :( | 21:39 |
| AmberJ | wxl, this is what I get: http://i.imgur.com/AMvjc.png | 21:41 |
| wxl | AmberJ: open ~/.config/autostart in pcmanfm and double click on pcmanfm.desktop -- what happens? | 21:41 |
| AmberJ | wxl, Another window of pcmanfm opens when I do that^ | 21:42 |
| wxl | strange | 21:42 |
| wxl | i am kind of at a loss | 21:43 |
| AmberJ | MrChrisDruif, clicking on /usr/share/applications/pcmanfm.desktop opens another window... | 21:44 |
| wxl | so we've checked both of the .desktops AmberJ ? | 21:45 |
| MrChrisDruif | And so does the one in ~/.config/autostart/ ? | 21:45 |
| AmberJ | yes both | 21:45 |
| wxl | bizarre | 21:45 |
| AmberJ | both open a new window of pcmanfm | 21:45 |
| wxl | i doubt it's a permission problem | 21:45 |
| wxl | maybe possible | 21:45 |
| wxl | Unit193: ping | 21:46 |
| AmberJ | Should I try TEMPORARILY to give ugo+rwx (all permissions :D) to see if it helps? | 21:47 |
| wxl | AmberJ: no i'd say you'd want the same perms on both files so check what it is in /usr/share/applications and then apply it to ~/.config/autostart | 21:48 |
| AmberJ | Still same error... | 21:51 |
| wxl | unfortunately #freedesktop is dead so that's not helping either :'( | 21:51 |
| Unit193 | wxl: Eh? | 21:51 |
| AmberJ | Is there a way to save a log file when pcmanfm.desktop is being executed during login? (this might help) | 21:51 |
| MrChrisDruif | Unit193; AmberJ has issues auto-starting pcmanfm | 21:51 |
| wxl | Unit193: have you ever experienced an issue with a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart that wouldn't start with an error of "No such file or directory" yet the .desktop file loads pcmanfm once in lxde no problem??? | 21:52 |
| AmberJ | Unit193, this is what I get: http://i.imgur.com/AMvjc.png when I try to autostart pcmanfm during login | 21:52 |
| Unit193 | What's the command for pcmanfm? | 21:52 |
| wxl | Unit193: pcmanfm | 21:53 |
| wxl | /usr/bin/pcmanfm if that helps | 21:53 |
| wxl | AmberJ: have you tried to grep /var/log/syslog? | 21:53 |
| AmberJ | wxl, I just tried...nothing useful in there :( | 21:54 |
| Unit193 | /usr/bin/pcmanfm $U | 21:55 |
| Unit193 | Or /usr/bin/pcmanfm /home/amberj/ | 21:56 |
| wxl | maybe /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 21:56 |
| wxl | Unit193: %U | 21:56 |
| wxl | we already tried that, tho | 21:56 |
| AmberJ | Unit193, should I put that in pcmanfm.desktop? Or, do you mean to ask? | 21:56 |
| Unit193 | What is the file now? | 21:56 |
| wxl | she has Exec=/usr/bin/pcmanfm %U | 21:56 |
| * AmberJ is a guy :D | 21:57 | |
| wxl | ooops | 21:57 |
| AmberJ | np :) | 21:57 |
| Unit193 | wxl: I thought it too | 21:57 |
| * wxl decides to not use pronouns | 21:57 | |
| AmberJ | Now, please don't stop helping me now that you guys know that I'm not a sexy chick ;) | 21:57 |
| wxl | well i'm certainly over it | 21:58 |
| wxl | you can get someone else | 21:58 |
| wxl | ;) | 21:58 |
| wxl | any luck with Xorg.0.log? | 21:58 |
| AmberJ | :( | 21:58 |
| Unit193 | --desktop-off ? or try a different program, make sure that works | 21:59 |
| wxl | get this, Unit193 -- double clicking on the .desktop files works | 22:00 |
| AmberJ | wxl, No luck | 22:00 |
| wxl | so the Exec command is correct | 22:00 |
| wxl | obviously current $PATH is correct because HE can run pcmanfm from lxterminal without specifying full path | 22:01 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, but pcmanfm can be picky on start, I'd try something simple like leafpad | 22:01 |
| AmberJ | Ok...this is weird. Typing 'pcmanfm', 'pcmanfm %U', 'pcmanfm %U /home/amber' won't start pcmanfm now | 22:01 |
| AmberJ | It won't give any errors either | 22:01 |
| wxl | weird | 22:01 |
| AmberJ | It just drops back to terminal prompt | 22:01 |
| wxl | maybe $PATH is messed up? | 22:02 |
| wxl | echo $PATH | 22:02 |
| AmberJ | I guess not, wxl ...here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/803488/ | 22:02 |
| AmberJ | pcmanfm starts fine from terminal once I click on it's icon in lxde menu | 22:03 |
| AmberJ | Let me reboot and confirm this...ok(?) | 22:04 |
| AmberJ | Come on guys...say yes! | 22:06 |
| wxl | yes? | 22:06 |
| wxl | i've got to tell you though | 22:06 |
| AmberJ | yes AmberJ you can reboot! | 22:06 |
| wxl | i'm not a guy | 22:06 |
| MrChrisDruif | YES!(?)?!(!)? | 22:06 |
| wxl | i'm a sexy chick | 22:06 |
| AmberJ | Shut up, wxl :D | 22:06 |
| wxl | :) | 22:06 |
| AmberJ | I don't want any chick jokes behind my back while I'm away rebooting :P | 22:07 |
| * AmberJ will keep a close eye on #lubuntu logs | 22:07 | |
| AmberJ | ;) | 22:07 |
| AmberJ | MrChrisDruif wxl Unit193: got it working. I replaced 'Exec=/usr/bin/pcmanfm %U' with 'Exec=/usr/bin/pcmanfm' in pcmanfm.desktop :) | 22:14 |
| AmberJ | After reboot, I noticed that 'pcmanfm' worked from my terminal but 'pcmanfm %U' gives the same error "No such file or directory" | 22:14 |
| MrChrisDruif | Oh, what does the %U do actually? | 22:15 |
| AmberJ | And, 'pcmanfm %U /home/amber/Desktop' gives same error window first but when I press "ok" in error window, pcmanfm opens fine in /home/amber/Desktop | 22:15 |
| AmberJ | No idea what %U does. | 22:15 |
| MrChrisDruif | Alright, then you can submit a bug to pcmanfm to get it fixed for EVERYONE | 22:15 |
| AmberJ | But without %U, pcmanfm starts fine | 22:16 |
| MrChrisDruif | Bug/patch | 22:16 |
| AmberJ | MrChrisDruif, do you mean 'ubuntu-bug pcmanfm' ? | 22:16 |
| wxl | AmberJ: yep | 22:17 |
| MrChrisDruif | Something like that, yeah | 22:17 |
| MrChrisDruif | pcmanfm has launchpad project afaik | 22:17 |
| MrChrisDruif | You can raise a bug on there and include a solution as well | 22:17 |
| AmberJ | MrChrisDruif, I'm confused. Do I need to submit this to pcmanfm launchpad project page ? or, ubuntu's "ubuntu-bug pcmanfm"? | 22:19 |
| AmberJ | or, both? | 22:19 |
| wxl | same thing AmberJ | 22:20 |
| AmberJ | ok | 22:20 |
| MrChrisDruif | Listen to wxl | 22:20 |
| AmberJ | you mean THE CHICK? | 22:21 |
| AmberJ | ;) | 22:21 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yup | 22:21 |
| MrChrisDruif | No, I mean THA SEXY CHICK! | 22:21 |
| MrChrisDruif | ;-) | 22:22 |
| MrChrisDruif | We'll continue this in -offtopic if you don't mind | 22:22 |
| wxl | los pollitos dicen pio pio pio | 22:22 |
| phillw | AmberJ: the %U pulls in the UID, so that another user on the computer cannot edit your ~home area | 22:22 |
| AmberJ | phillw, So, should I suggest removing %U from 'Exec=/usr/bin/pcmanfm' in the bug report? | 22:24 |
| AmberJ | Or, should I add to bug report that 'Exec=/usr/bin/pcmanfm %U' should be replaced by "Exec=/usr/bin/pcmanfm /home/user"? (but this won't be portable) | 22:25 |
| phillw | from the GUI launching of pcmanfm? no. If your pcmanfm is not starting correctly, my guess would be the use of sudo pcmanfm at some point instead of gksudu pcmanfm | 22:26 |
| phillw | sudo <application> == broken application | 22:27 |
| AmberJ | Do we need sudo when auto-starting pcmanfm during login? philipballew | 22:28 |
| AmberJ | oops, sorry philipballew. I meant to hilight phillw. | 22:29 |
| phillw | no, you do not. But I've come late to this one. What is the error that you are getting? | 22:29 |
| AmberJ | phillw, When I try to autostart pcmanfm during login using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_into_Desktop ... | 22:30 |
| AmberJ | I get this: http://i.imgur.com/AMvjc.png | 22:30 |
| phillw | ahh, you want the window to open... pcmanfm already starts on boot. | 22:31 |
| AmberJ | So, I tried launching pcmanfm from terminal using different ways: | 22:31 |
| wxl | oh THAT'S the problem | 22:31 |
| AmberJ | I noticed that 'pcmanfm' worked from my terminal but 'pcmanfm %U' gives the same error "No such file or directory" | 22:31 |
| AmberJ | And, 'pcmanfm %U /home/amber/Desktop' gives same error window first but when I press "ok" in error window, pcmanfm opens fine in /home/amber/Desktop | 22:31 |
| wxl | derp | 22:31 |
| AmberJ | What? | 22:31 |
| wxl | pcmanfm already starts on boot | 22:31 |
| AmberJ | I was *busy* copy/pasting :D | 22:32 |
| phillw | yes, because you are asking pcmanfm to open %U | 22:32 |
| wxl | you ultimately just need to open a new window | 22:32 |
| AmberJ | And, how do I open a new window? | 22:32 |
| phillw | wxl: took a while to get there. Sorry for being late to this, I could have saved some confusion but was busy elsewhere :( | 22:33 |
| AmberJ | *bump* | 22:35 |
| Unit193 | I'm almost back it it counts | 22:35 |
| wxl | phillw: so correct me if i'm wrong but his autostart .desktop should have Exec=pcmanfm and we're good right? | 22:36 |
| AmberJ | If you can help me, it counts. Otherwise not :D | 22:36 |
| AmberJ | Unit193, that^ was for you :P | 22:36 |
| phillw | I've never asked pcmanfm to open a window on start | 22:36 |
| Unit193 | I have a desktop shortcut for it, actually (And yes, I know that's a weird way to do it) | 22:37 |
| phillw | but, as it works in terminal, it *should* | 22:37 |
| wxl | ok so AmberJ try Exec=pcmanfm (backup to Exec=/usr/bin/pcmanfm but you shouldn't need this) in your .desktop and you should be good. if so, no bug needed | 22:38 |
| AmberJ | wxl, but what if someone in future follows FAQ wiki page and faces the same problem due to %U being in there? | 22:39 |
| wxl | AmberJ: i'll take care of that, just do the checking | 22:39 |
| AmberJ | Right. Let me check... | 22:39 |
| AmberJ | wxl, 'Exec=pcmanfm' works fine. | 22:40 |
| wxl | great thx | 22:41 |
| AmberJ | I'm *not* submitting the bug report now. | 22:41 |
| wxl | will fix wiki | 22:41 |
| AmberJ | Thanks everyone :) | 22:41 |
| phillw | glad it got sorted! | 22:43 |
| phillw | wxl: go make a note on the FAQ about the slight difference to auto-open a pcmanfm window :) | 22:43 |
| wxl | AmberJ: http://is.gd/6pQHhS | 22:52 |
| AmberJ | Correct wxl. That's what worked for me :) | 22:52 |
| AmberJ | wxl, I don't know if this will be useful (since my problem is already solved) still...when trying to solve this problem, I bumped into this and it sounds familiar: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=87969.0 | 22:54 |
| AmberJ | I hope one can post links to forums of other linux distros (when it can be useful) in this channel(?) | 22:55 |
| wxl | NO! THAT'S AGAINST OUR RELIGION AMBER! | 22:57 |
| AmberJ | Add it to /topic then :D | 22:57 |
| wxl | hahahah | 22:58 |
| phillw | AmberJ: as it is marked [solved] and from the middle of last year, there seems little point awakening a dormant thread. | 22:58 |
| AmberJ | wxl: And, define 'religion' in a page on lubuntu wiki :P | 22:59 |
| AmberJ | phillw, I didn't meant to 'awaken' that thread...I'm way too lazy to do that :D I just posted it here so that *maybe* you guys can infer some useful info out of it. | 23:00 |
| AmberJ | If it is NOT useful, feel free to ignore it :) | 23:00 |
| AmberJ | Did my message reach this channel? Or, was I disconnected before it? | 23:39 |
| AmberJ | <AmberJ> That reminds me some part of my notification (on top right corner) is out of my monitor. Any ideas what could be causing this? | 23:39 |
| AmberJ | <AmberJ> If anyone can hilight me, I can get a screenshot of notification | 23:39 |
| AmberJ | Nevermind. Next time (tomorrow!) :) | 23:43 |
| AmberJ | Thanks everyone again :) | 23:43 |
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| === Guest91153 is now known as Unit193 | ||
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