| lamont | ScottK: I'll work on that this weekend | 00:13 |
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| * nonix4 ponders whether debug symbols for precise grub2 exist somewhere; debugging grub-install segfault without such is PITA | 00:14 | |
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| cjwatson | barry: Would you like me to take the python-debian work item? Not if you've already started or anything, but I wouldn't mind getting a bit of porting practice here | 00:24 |
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| psusi | so unity is a shell and it is normally run with compiz as the wm... but gnome-shell is both a shell, and a clutter based wm in one... do I have that right? | 00:58 |
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| psusi | why the hell is there no bzr branch for mdadm? | 01:48 |
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| ScottK | lamont: Great. Thanks. | 02:28 |
| maxolasersquad | I am working on packaging a game an have three remaining lintian errors being thrown. | 03:57 |
| maxolasersquad | http://paste.ubuntu.com/802571/ | 03:57 |
| maxolasersquad | This is not an app I wrote, I'm packaging it for ARB. | 03:57 |
| maxolasersquad | Specifically I'm trying to resovle the invalid category in the .desktop file. | 03:58 |
| maxolasersquad | The file is being created automatically when I run debuild, but I'm not exactly sure where it is getting Qt;Game;Memory; | 03:59 |
| maxolasersquad | The code is at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~maxolasersquad/+junk/qml-memory-game/files | 04:00 |
| vibhav | While compiling wxGTK I get this error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/802665/ | 07:02 |
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| slangasek | barry: bug #915843 | 08:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 915843 in linux (Ubuntu) "ThinkPad X201: intermittently powers off instead of suspending when closing the lid" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/915843 | 08:20 |
| geser | Sweetshark: are you already aware of bug #915271? it breaks upgrades on precise | 08:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 915271 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "package libreoffice-core 1:3.4.4-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: rmdir: failed to remove `usr/lib/libreoffice/basis3.4/program/': Directory not empty" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/915271 | 08:33 |
| mvo | slangasek: I am on the apt issue again this morning and would love to get the error message you have. I created a testcase for what I get (Internal Error, Could not early remove crda) http://paste.ubuntu.com/802717/ and would love to hear what kind of error you see | 08:38 |
| pitti | infinity: you can get your netbook back, I can reproduce on my machine by explicitly calling it | 08:48 |
| pitti | ogra_, infinity: FYI, it's bug 913085 if you want to follow | 08:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 913085 in pkgbinarymangler (Ubuntu) "Translation domain detection from config.h is broken" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/913085 | 08:55 |
| stgraber | slangasek: bug 24061 | 08:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 24061 in apt (Ubuntu Precise) "GPG error with apt-get/aptitude/update-manager behind proxy (BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24061 | 08:57 |
| infinity | pitti: Err. That's special. | 08:57 |
| slangasek | mvo: hi; so at this point I'm manually dist-upgraded to the new wireless-crda+crda and no longer see the issue myself :/ | 08:57 |
| slangasek | stgraber: yep - thanks :) | 08:57 |
| sagaci | pitti: regarding ubuntu-defaults-image, is there any configuration to specify a mirror? | 09:00 |
| pitti | sagaci: not right now | 09:01 |
| mvo | thanks slangasek - no worries, the testcase definitely catches one more instance of the bug, I was mostly wondering if there is yet another corner case for it | 09:07 |
| infinity | pitti: Thanks for the pointer; removing the double-quotes fixed it locally. | 09:07 |
| ogra_ | same here | 09:08 |
| pitti | right, I tested that here | 09:08 |
| pitti | funny bug | 09:08 |
| infinity | Certainly an unusual symptom for the problem. | 09:08 |
| slangasek | mvo: ah, ok | 09:09 |
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| hallyn | poolie: http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/libvirt.html#2011-05-26%2020:07:23.558315 'bzr import-dsc' by hand works fine, package importer fails. | 09:34 |
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| mvo | slangasek: fwiw, I proposed removing debian/ from trunk for command-not-found and have it only in a packaging branch to avoid confusion again (confusion caused by absent minded people like me) | 09:42 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I think we should remove the current libo 3.5 binaries to make upgrades a little less broken; does that sound ok to you | 09:43 |
| pitti | ? | 09:43 |
| cjwatson | pitti: The NBS ones? | 09:44 |
| pitti | cjwatson: no, all binaries | 09:44 |
| pitti | bdmurray says the upgrade bug alrady has 130-something dupes | 09:44 |
| pitti | cjwatson: but building the fix will take at least 10 hours on the buildds | 09:44 |
| cjwatson | So effectively no LibO in precise for a while? | 09:44 |
| cjwatson | That will break image builds | 09:45 |
| infinity | This sounds like a good long-term solution. | 09:45 |
| cjwatson | infinity: :-P | 09:45 |
| pitti | cjwatson: they are already broken | 09:45 |
| pitti | it doesn't make it any less urgent to unbreak LibO | 09:45 |
| cjwatson | Well, if I can blame the desktop team for it :-P | 09:45 |
| pitti | but it might ease upgrades a little bit | 09:45 |
| pitti | cjwatson: well, you can blame us either way :) | 09:45 |
| pitti | ah, bug 915271 | 09:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 915271 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "package libreoffice-core 1:3.4.4-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: rmdir: failed to remove `usr/lib/libreoffice/basis3.4/program/': Directory not empty" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/915271 | 09:46 |
| cjwatson | If we remove it, people who upgrade to precise in the relevant interval will be prompted by update-manager to remove LibO, I think | 09:46 |
| cjwatson | Maybe we can tolerate that but I thought it should be mentioned | 09:47 |
| pitti | ah, so it's not -l10n, but due to the broken postinst | 09:47 |
| cjwatson | pitti: Well, I'm a bit nervous of the removal, but if you think it's a good idea, I can't actually think of solid arguments against | 09:48 |
| pitti | it's only a recommends of u-desktop, so if u-m removes it, nothing would pull it back in | 09:49 |
| pitti | cjwatson: bdmurray, Sweetshark and I are currently discussing reuploading 1:3.5.0~beta2+really3.4.4-0ubuntu1 | 09:49 |
| cjwatson | That sounds intrusive | 09:49 |
| pitti | it "only" takes ~ 2.5 hours to build instead of 10 | 09:49 |
| cjwatson | Despite the low build time, I think I like that even less | 09:50 |
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| cjwatson | Why the massive build time spike in 3.5? | 09:51 |
| pitti | we still have the corresponding -l10n source in the archive | 09:51 |
| pitti | cjwatson: unknown yet; on Sweetshark's machine it builds in 2 | 09:51 |
| cjwatson | It might be different on different builders? | 09:51 |
| pitti | possibly | 09:51 |
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| pitti | cjwatson: beta3 is already released, so we wouldn't have to carry the +really version number for long | 09:52 |
| pitti | so it seems both binary removal and the status quo breaks upgrades quite badly | 09:53 |
| pitti | cjwatson: OOI, why do you think a reversion is worse? | 09:55 |
| pitti | hm, it'd need a libo-l10n upload as well, as libreoffice-l10n-XX Depends: libreoffice-common (<< 1:3.5~) | 09:56 |
| geser | what about fixing the broken preinst? | 09:58 |
| pitti | that needs to happen, of course; currently discussing with Bjoern | 09:59 |
| pitti | if it's faster to fix 3. with -l10n (that already is confirmed to work) and the human theme (that still causes problems), or revert to 3.4 | 10:00 |
| pitti | "fix 3.5" | 10:00 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: per bdmurray's suggestion, I'm going to mark ubuntu-foundations-team as restricted rather than moderated so I don't have to tell people "no" anymore... we'll just have to invite people instead when we want them in :) | 10:02 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: good idea! | 10:04 |
| cjwatson | pitti: I guess it's not so terrible if there's no risk of us releasing with it; LibO is sufficiently high-profile that I do think people might actually vaguely care about the version number | 10:04 |
| pitti | in the worst case we'll release alpha-2 with it, but this should land next week | 10:05 |
| pitti | but at this point it gets dangerously close to the weekend for my taste | 10:05 |
| cjwatson | I agree we need to fix this before the weekend ... | 10:06 |
| cjwatson | barry: did you see my offer last night to take the python-debian port? | 10:06 |
| geser | and on monday you can't open that bug anymore as LP times out due to the amount of duplicates | 10:06 |
| pitti | this is an apport generated bug | 10:08 |
| pitti | I'll create a bug pattern | 10:08 |
| pitti | committed | 10:11 |
| cyphermox | jodh: stgraber: re the upstart jobs for bluez I was talking about earlier -- bluetooth-daemon.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/802774/ -- bluetooth-device.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/802775/ | 10:11 |
| cyphermox | if you could take a look that would be great. | 10:11 |
| jodh | cyphermox: will do, thanks. | 10:13 |
| cyphermox | thanks to you -- the initial code was great help | 10:13 |
| cyphermox | fwiw: if you want to test you'll need to obviously remove /etc/init.d/bluetooth, but less obviously get /lib/udev/rules.d/97-bluetooth.rules out of the way | 10:14 |
| pitti | so, 3.4 took 6:40 hours to build, seems it's really buildd dependent | 10:14 |
| pitti | i386 takes 2.5 hours | 10:14 |
| pitti | but most of the dupes are in fact on amd64 | 10:14 |
| pitti | (not surprisingly, given the target audience of current precise) | 10:15 |
| bdmurray | pitti: the pattern doesn't match may of the duplicates | 10:17 |
| pitti | ah, e. g. bug 915455 | 10:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 915271 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #915455 package libreoffice-core 1:3.4.4-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: rmdir: failed to remove `usr/lib/libreoffice/basis3.4/program/': Directory not empty" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/915271 | 10:18 |
| pitti | bdmurray: I'll check the logs instead | 10:19 |
| barry | cjwatson: i missed that, but that would be awesome | 10:20 |
| barry | cjwatson: btw, i'm going to go hang out with the bzr guys now. do you have a package w/quilt that you'd like us to try to merge? | 10:20 |
| cjwatson | barry: not off the top of my head that I'm not already handling adequately, sorry :) | 10:21 |
| cjwatson | pitti: if you can find a builder that does a decent job, we can stick the farm on manual just before the uploa | 10:22 |
| cjwatson | d | 10:22 |
| barry | cjwatson: okay ;) we'll hunt around for a fun one to hammer on | 10:22 |
| pitti | cjwatson: *nod* | 10:22 |
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| pitti | bdmurray: added another pattern, matches a lot more now | 10:25 |
| bdmurray | pitti: great, thanks | 10:32 |
| hrw | eglibc failed to crosscompile for me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/802791/ | 10:43 |
| slangasek | hrw: is that the current precise version of the package? | 10:54 |
| hrw | slangasek: yes and fail is during cross toolchain bootstrap | 10:58 |
| hrw | slangasek: I am doing test now with older version to check when it started to fail | 10:58 |
| slangasek | hrw: ok, thanks | 11:00 |
| slangasek | barry: hem, have to reject this python-dbus upload - E: python3-dbus-dbg: non-standard-toplevel-dir debian/ | 11:00 |
| slangasek | barry: there are several other lintian errors to be fixed at the same time | 11:01 |
| tjaalton | let's try here; any DD's in budapest willing to sign my gpg key? | 11:09 |
| tjaalton | one is enough :) | 11:09 |
| infinity | tjaalton: Depends on how nicely you ask. | 11:16 |
| tjaalton | infinity: pleeease.. ? :) | 11:17 |
| tjaalton | infinity: no rush with the actual signing, but I can drop you a paper with the fingerprint and stuff.. | 11:18 |
| infinity | tjaalton: Bring extravagant gifts to the ARM room. | 11:18 |
| tjaalton | salmiakki that is then :) | 11:18 |
| hrw | salmiakki aka 'what is wrong with Finnish people' :D | 11:19 |
| nigelb | lol. | 11:22 |
| nigelb | "extravagant gits to ARM room." | 11:22 |
| nigelb | I can almost imagine some kind of primitive initiation ceremony happening near infinity :P | 11:23 |
| tjaalton | hrw: the same :) | 11:25 |
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| cjwatson | Riddell: In kdeplasma-addons 4:4.7.90-0ubuntu1, did you mean to also drop plasma-widget-kimpanel's dependency on plasma-widget-kimpanel-backend-ibus while dropping the latter package? | 11:28 |
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| Riddell | cjwatson: hmm there's a whole spec to sorting that out which involves finding and evaluating an update to kimpanel. I'll take a quick look at kdeplasma-addons today to answer your question | 11:30 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: OK, I just noticed because it shows up in NBS. Thanks | 11:31 |
| slangasek | tjaalton: one is never enough | 11:34 |
| slangasek | tjaalton: I'm sure you want to give me salmiakki in exchange for signatures as well | 11:35 |
| tjaalton | slangasek: hehe, well I got Mirv to sign it earlier, but another one wouldn't hurt I guess | 11:36 |
| tjaalton | let me "print" the key first | 11:36 |
| tjaalton | er, fingerprint | 11:36 |
| slangasek | oh, I forgot that Mirv is also a DD; clearly both of us failed at having our fingerprints displayed prominently on the outside of our jackets | 11:37 |
| pitti | cjwatson: just FYI, we discussed reversion, and it seems it's not any less risky or less work than fixing 3.5 (it's building for an hour already) | 11:39 |
| pitti | we have the preinst fixed, and -l10n* are generated properly | 11:39 |
| tjaalton | slangasek: ok, where are you atm? | 11:40 |
| slangasek | tjaalton: foundations room (across from ARM) | 11:40 |
| tjaalton | ok | 11:40 |
| infinity | tjaalton: Sent to pgpkeys.mit.edu | 11:42 |
| tjaalton | infinity: excellent, thanks | 11:44 |
| pitti | infinity: which of the amd64 builders is the fastest we have? | 11:44 |
| cjwatson | pitti: *nod* thanks | 11:44 |
| slangasek | infinity: without validating the email addresses! <gasp> | 11:46 |
| doko | pitti: allspice | 11:49 |
| pitti | doko: danke | 11:49 |
| bdmurray | pitti: /msg pitti do you have any plans to upload apport in the near future? | 11:51 |
| pitti | bdmurray: there are a few fixes in trunk, but nothing urgent; but I can do an upload on Monday or so if you want to get in the kerneloops stuff | 11:52 |
| Mirv | tjaalton: :P | 11:52 |
| bdmurray | pitti: that and the ubiquity package hook change would be nice | 11:53 |
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| barry | cjwatson: you might want to give lp:bzr and lp:bzr-builddeb a try. i got a demo of `bzr merge` in the presence of quilts. *really* nice | 12:10 |
| cjwatson | cool, ok, will have a look next time I have occasion | 12:12 |
| barry | cjwatson: i think it will land in precise in a few days | 12:12 |
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| infinity | slangasek: I already knew his IDs were his. All I would have been validating is the lack of an MITM. | 13:24 |
| slangasek | pshaw | 13:24 |
| infinity | ;) | 13:24 |
| slangasek | you only knew that they belonged to some person calling himself tjaalton | 13:25 |
| slangasek | there are apparently 8 million of those in finland | 13:25 |
| infinity | No, I knew they were his, or belonging to someone who pretends to be him on a regular basis. | 13:25 |
| infinity | And quite convincingly. | 13:25 |
| infinity | If that's true, that guy can have the sig. | 13:25 |
| infinity | He's earned it. | 13:25 |
| tjaalton | :) | 13:27 |
| slangasek | hallyn: waah, why did you break virt-manager | 13:28 |
| hallyn | i did what? | 13:28 |
| slangasek | hallyn: Error starting domain: internal error no assigned pty for device charconsole0 | 13:28 |
| slangasek | regression since Wednesday-ish | 13:29 |
| hallyn | slangasek: does 'virsh console <domain' work? | 13:30 |
| slangasek | hallyn: I don't know what I'm meant to specify as 'domain', this is why I use virt-manager ;) | 13:30 |
| hallyn | slangasek: zul says he's going to merge 0.9.8-2, hopefully that will pull in the *full* set of fixes. | 13:30 |
| slangasek | hallyn: "error: The domain is not running | 13:32 |
| slangasek | "? | 13:32 |
| slangasek | hallyn: 'virsh start' gives me the same 'Failed to start' error | 13:32 |
| hallyn | strgraber: the 'libvirt not showing running domains' - can you reproduce that at will right now? | 13:36 |
| stgraber | hallyn: no, that was yesterday, I then completely killed libvirt, manually killed anything that was still running and restarted it, worked fine after that. | 13:37 |
| * om26er misses the patch pilots :/ | 13:42 | |
| ScottK | They were on holiday break, they'll be back. | 13:43 |
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| hallyn | cyphermox: should netcf be depending on libnl3 (if src pkg depends on libnl-3-dev)? | 14:28 |
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| cyphermox | hallyn: if you're using symbols from libnl3, you'd get a depends on libnl-3-200 or libnl-genl-3-200. | 14:29 |
| cyphermox | hallyn: depends mostly if it #includes netlink/netlink.h or netlink/genl.h (or any such thing) | 14:29 |
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| hallyn | cyphermox: guess i'm just confused as to why it wasn't in there to begin with. (or why it worked without it) | 14:32 |
| cyphermox | not sure, let me look | 14:32 |
| cyphermox | hallyn: right now it seems to me like it's there, in libnetcf1 | 14:34 |
| hallyn | cyphermox: well i'm pretty sure i just messed up originally (and got away with it bc of spurious other pkgs) | 14:34 |
| hallyn | hm, i don't see it | 14:34 |
| cyphermox | Depends: libaugeas0 (>= 0.6.0), libc6 (>= 2.8), libnl-3-200 (>= 3.2.3), libnl-route-3-200, libxml2 (>= 2.7.4), libxslt1.1 (>= 1.1.25), augeas-lenses | 14:34 |
| cyphermox | that's from apt-cache show libnetcf1 | 14:34 |
| hallyn | weird. | 14:34 |
| cyphermox | hallyn: coming | 14:35 |
| * pitti shepherds a new libreoffice in and crosses fingers | 14:53 | |
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| lifeless | why is 'for purchase' empty in software centre in precise ? | 15:47 |
| Laney | AFAIK stuff has to be manually rolled over and this has not happened yet. iamfuzz ^^^? | 15:48 |
| cjwatson | iamfuzz isn't responsible for it any more afaik, not sure who is | 15:49 |
| james_w | correct | 15:49 |
| pitti | bdmurray: found the bug, uploading fix now | 15:56 |
| iamfuzz | cjwatson, I think Scott Ritchie is still helping out with that part time | 16:07 |
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| andrejz | hello! can anyone point me in the direction of checkbox developers ? | 16:22 |
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| pitti | andrejz: cr3 ? | 16:34 |
| andrejz | ok, thanks pitti | 16:34 |
| cr3 | andrejz: hi there, what's up? | 16:37 |
| andrejz | hello, i have some concern about the string to be translated. they require substantially more translator work then they could. I briefly explained it here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/checkbox/+bug/916096 | 16:38 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 916096 in checkbox "Checkbox requires a lot of translator work" [Undecided,New] | 16:38 |
| andrejz | do you think something can be done about it? | 16:38 |
| cr3 | andrejz: I'm not sure, those strings are taken from the equivalent to rfc822 deb files | 16:40 |
| cr3 | andrejz: however, you raise an extra good point that "PURPOSE" should not be translated but that's our fault, it's really not clear :( | 16:40 |
| cr3 | andrejz: I'm really not happy with the pseudo-markup format which PURPOSE/STEPS/VERIFICATION are intended to be | 16:41 |
| andrejz | it's kind of annoying i need to translate some strings over and over again (PURPOSE, STEPS and VERIFICATION are most prominent, but there are others too) | 16:42 |
| cr3 | andrejz: I'll raise this with the rest of the team for sure but I can't make any promises for Precise since we're approaching FF quickly. however, there are talks for a major refactoring in P+1 | 16:43 |
| andrejz | ok, thanks | 16:43 |
| cr3 | andrejz: there will be a blueprint for the refactoring listing some of the problems with the current implementation, so I'll make sure to raise your concern | 16:43 |
| andrejz | cool, i hope something nice comes out of it :) | 16:44 |
| cr3 | andrejz: me too, I can appreciate the annoyance you have to deal with. thanks for taking the time to get in touch with me though, very nice! | 16:45 |
| pitti | cjwatson: (CC: RAOF) oneiric unapproved has some syncs, presumably from (failed?) experiments from you? | 16:46 |
| andrejz | well at first i started translating but then i got increasingly annoyed and then realised i am surely not the only one with this issue and decided to report it :) | 16:46 |
| pitti | cjwatson: we can't do anything but reject them, but not sure what the intent was? | 16:46 |
| pitti | cjwatson: qemu-kvm and compiz-plugins-main | 16:47 |
| cjwatson | hmm | 16:47 |
| cjwatson | oh! I wondered where those had gone, that explains a certain amount | 16:47 |
| cjwatson | yes, reject them | 16:47 |
| pitti | rejecting all five dupes :) | 16:48 |
| cjwatson | those were actually copies from oneiric-proposed - I did them a different way in the end after being unable to figure out what was going wrong | 16:48 |
| cjwatson | but if they landed in unapproved, that makes a kind of sense | 16:48 |
| hikenboot | anyone interested in seeing (besides me) Proxmox 2.0 kvm/openvz/ISCSI/ZFS working on the next version of Ubuntu? Here I have it working on DEBIAN see the last 4 articles posted at wanfuse.blogspot.com...should be easy enough to translate to ubuntu...problem is that most of it is touchy about kernel versions? I think with some help it would be a great inclusion in the next ubuntu release! | 17:54 |
| cjwatson | pitti: just so you know, you can now pass multiple -s arguments to sru-accept.py so that it only leaves one comment | 17:54 |
| hikenboot | or should i post that on #ubuntu-app-devel? | 17:57 |
| hikenboot | In order to get it working with ISCSI and able for the iscsi to run Microsoft clusters I needed to use IET ISCSTARGET instead of openiscsi target.. | 18:00 |
| hikenboot | and had to get a patch for ZFS to work with ISCS since in its current form in the normal tree it does not | 18:01 |
| pitti | cjwatson: useful, thanks! | 18:30 |
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