[07:11] <sakhi> morning
[07:37] <superfly> morning sakhi
[08:08] <inetpro> good morning sakhi superfly
[08:13] <superfly> hiya inetpro
[08:29] <howzitnick> Hi everyone :) Noob here, came for the conversation and to get more involved.
[08:29] <howzitnick> I also having a weird issue with my Firefox. If I visit property24.com in Ubuntu Firefox 9.0.1, it tries to download a page rather than opening it.
[08:30] <howzitnick> Windows and Fedora and Debian with same Firefox version works fine. Anyone have an idea of what the problem could be?
[08:30] <howzitnick> Perhaps a different build for Ubuntu causing the issue?
[08:31] <Tonberry> firefox 8 on ubuntu does the same
[08:31] <Tonberry> chrome works fine
[08:33] <howzitnick> oh 8 as well? Thanks Tonberry, I thought it was just the recent upgrade. Is tries to download "mobile.aspx" correct?
[08:33] <Tonberry> yes
[08:34] <howzitnick> perhaps its code on their side i.e. they trying to sniff user agent but the ubuntu builds is slightly differnet?
[08:34] <Tonberry> my best guess would be incorrect user agent settings on their side
[08:34] <howzitnick> Thanks again, going to followup with them
[08:34] <howzitnick> ok lol, snap :)
[08:38] <inetpro> hi howzitnick, welcome to #ubuntu-za
[08:38] <inetpro> Symmetria: wb
[08:39] <howzitnick> Thanks inetpro :)
[08:42]  * inetpro has the same issue with http://www.property24.com/ and Firefox 9.0.1 on Kubuntu 10.04.3 LTS
[08:45] <superfly> hi howzitnick
[08:45] <superfly> howzitnick: yeah, that's usually an incorrectly configured server, in my experience
[08:45] <howzitnick> Hi superfly :)
[08:45] <howzitnick> oh ok thanks, the server or the code on the website?
[08:47] <superfly> server, code on website, same thing
[08:52] <howzitnick> ok cool, I am going to contact them again to check it out
[08:52] <howzitnick> you in web development superfly?
[08:53] <superfly> howzitnick: sorta
[08:54] <superfly> Done it in the past. Currently my job entails both server and embedded programming.
[08:56] <howzitnick> oh ok nice. I keep on running into people who do embedded programming. Do yuo think its getting bigger in SA?
[08:57] <inetpro> that server returns HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily and Location: /Mobile.aspx
[08:59] <inetpro> nothing we can do on our side
[08:59] <Tonberry> it works in other browsers
[08:59] <Tonberry> so user agent tinkering should work
[08:59] <inetpro> oh unless we can tell firefox to handle Content-Type: application/vnd.wap.xhtml+xml; charset=utf-8
[09:01] <inetpro> Tonberry: something tells me they do browser detection before returning the page
[09:01] <inetpro> and anything that is unknown must be a mobile browser
[09:01] <Tonberry> probably 
[09:03] <inetpro> If I change my user agent to IE or Netscape on Firefox it works
[09:04] <inetpro> the funny part is that you can go to the mobile site at http://m.property24.com/
[09:05] <superfly> howzitnick: I can't say for certain. I think there's lots of work in whichever direction you look, though most of those jobs are Windows and most development positions these days seem to be for PHP ugh
[09:07] <howzitnick> inetpro: tonberry: Thanks, that makes all sense now, especially the part about anything that is unknown is kicked to the mobile site. Going to get the user agents from the Fedora and Debian guys and send that all to property24. Should be something small to fix, would be interesting which part of user agent is different compared to ubuntu builds
[09:08] <howzitnick> superfly: hehe @PHP Thats true yes about lots of work whereever you go.
[09:09] <superfly> howzitnick: seriously, avoid PHP as much as possible.
[09:09] <inetpro> howzitnick: you are welcome
[09:09] <Tonberry> well there are worse fates in the universe
[09:09] <Tonberry> like having to do it in C
[09:15] <howzitnick> superfly: hehe, thanks but that is only real language I can program in although I am by no means a programmer :)Whats your language of choice then for web development?
[09:16] <superfly> howzitnick: Python
[09:18] <howzitnick> I have heard good things, might play with it soon to develop an application we need
[12:52] <nuvolari> o/ mornings
[12:58] <nlsthzn_> o/
[17:29] <Kilos> hi superfly inetpro bakuman nuvolari 
[17:29] <Kilos> and you other lurkers as well
[17:42] <superfly> evening Kilos
[17:51] <Mezenir> *lurk lurk*
[17:51] <inetpro> good evening Kilos
[17:51] <Kilos> hehe hiya mez
[17:51] <Kilos> grr
[17:51] <Kilos> Mezenir, 
[17:51] <Mezenir> howsit going
[17:51] <Kilos> hmmm
[17:52] <Kilos> all ok here ty and you?
[17:52] <Kilos> lo zeref 
[17:55] <Mezenir> pretty good
[17:56] <Mezenir> glad its weekend
[18:00] <Kilos> wat se jy vandag inetpro 
[18:43] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
[18:43] <Kilos> Maaz, night
[18:43] <Maaz> kbye Kilos