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| charlie-tca | No new desktop images today | 14:46 |
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| davmor2 | charlie-tca: did you have any issues on hw with ubiquity dying on the last continue click? | 14:49 |
| charlie-tca | I haven't had any, no | 14:50 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu doesn't ever tell you to hit Enter to continue on hardware, either. | 14:51 |
| charlie-tca | I ran 4 tests on hardware yesterday, with no problems | 14:51 |
| charlie-tca | davmor2: Do you need something verified? | 15:02 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: No on ubuntu 64bit it keeps hanging on me when I click on the continue button on Who are you | 15:03 |
| charlie-tca | weird | 15:03 |
| charlie-tca | Mine went right through | 15:03 |
| charlie-tca | Could it be the partitioning method causing it? | 15:03 |
| davmor2 | I'm using standard use entire drive | 15:05 |
| charlie-tca | I will burn the image and try it | 15:05 |
| charlie-tca | davmor2: clicked on both download updates and 3rd party software, clicked Continue, kernel oops | 15:16 |
| charlie-tca | Trying again | 15:16 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: that's sounding about as reliable as my experience :) | 15:17 |
| charlie-tca | heh, at least you are not alone :) | 15:17 |
| charlie-tca | great! it's reproducable, too | 15:24 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, try this without those boxes checked now | 15:25 |
| charlie-tca | davmor2: seeing those kernel oops by checking the boxes, I think the image has serious issues. However, not checking is letting me continue. | 15:36 |
| charlie-tca | Got to the "Who are you?" screen this time. Let's see what happens | 15:36 |
| davmor2 | yeah I had those checked so I wonder if it was oppsing but continuing at the same time | 15:37 |
| charlie-tca | clicked continue at the last screen and it is working. I got the slideshow now. | 15:37 |
| charlie-tca | It is one of those boxes | 15:38 |
| davmor2 | thatnks charlie-tca I'll update my bug and pass the info onto ev | 15:38 |
| charlie-tca | I am betting on the 3rd party software | 15:38 |
| charlie-tca | Let me know if I need to pull those kernel oops logs | 15:38 |
| charlie-tca | Who is the release manager for Xubuntu for this cycle? | 16:36 |
| charlie-tca | Normally, the release manager and the project lead are the same person | 16:36 |
| charlie-tca | If I am going to called in the release meetings, I will need to know what is going on | 16:58 |
| knome | charlie-tca, everything is in the meeting minutes | 17:06 |
| knome | charlie-tca, madnick should handle the release meetings, but it seems he's been rather busy lately | 17:06 |
| knome | as am i | 17:06 |
| charlie-tca | Is madnick the release manager then? | 17:06 |
| knome | that depends what that means | 17:07 |
| charlie-tca | That means the person with the authority and responsibility for the release cycle. They can make the decisions needed, and they attend the meetings, and they try to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Development/ReleaseProcess | 17:09 |
| charlie-tca | They keep track of what is happening throughout the release cycle, write release notes, keep the team updated, etc | 17:10 |
| knome | i am, but since i'm not a technical person, i haven't attended the release meetings, but asked for madnick to do that | 17:11 |
| charlie-tca | Great. Then I can have my name removed from the "must attend" list | 17:11 |
| knome | i'm worried about that though, since as i said, madnick's been busy lately, and afaik, haven't attended | 17:12 |
| knome | i try to send the email every week to the release ML, but sometimes i fail because i need to work on other things, or purely just forget | 17:12 |
| charlie-tca | If he can't attend, and you are the decision maker, you should be attending | 17:12 |
| knome | i understand that. | 17:13 |
| knome | unfortunately things aren't so black&white | 17:13 |
| knome | what if i didn't get a message from him saying he can't attend? | 17:13 |
| knome | what if i can't attend myself? | 17:13 |
| charlie-tca | Sure they are. As Project Lead, you have full and total responsibility for the release. | 17:13 |
| knome | but before that, i have full and total responsibility of making a living. | 17:14 |
| knome | there hasn't been problems so far | 17:14 |
| knome | i've also been in contact with skaet, so if there is problems i hope to hear from them | 17:15 |
| madnick | hi, im back, acctually, i was quite sure I could attend today, but I got stuck in a meeting regarding my business plan that I had to dicuss before the weekend | 17:16 |
| knome | generally speaking i don't think any single person should take too much to carry, and the optimal situation is a situation where things are distributed amongst several people | 17:17 |
| knome | that also makes it easier to replace people, even if one dropped out in the midst of a release cycle | 17:17 |
| knome | this doesn't mean that i'm not willing to take full responsibility for xubuntu | 17:17 |
| knome | it just means i don't think ANYONE should do more than they can, and also that i understand that other people have other life than xubuntu too, and so have i | 17:18 |
| knome | madnick, no problem really. how does your fridays in the future look? | 17:18 |
| madnick | I think I should be able to attend, since the meeting is outside of normal business hours anyways for me | 17:20 |
| knome | yeah. | 17:20 |
| madnick | Its just that, this startup process is quite intense over the past few weeks | 17:20 |
| knome | i understand | 17:20 |
| knome | don't worry too much | 17:20 |
| knome | are you also able to send the mail to the release ML every thursday in the following weeks? | 17:21 |
| knome | content should be fully covered in the last team meeting minutes, unless it's some time from it | 17:21 |
| madnick | Well, if we have meetings it shouldnt be a problem, its just about getting the information | 17:21 |
| knome | yeah, i agree | 17:22 |
| charlie-tca | Well, let me know if you are doing the alpha2 release, so I know if I need to test it, okay? | 17:22 |
| knome | charlie-tca, i will inform, and we most probably will if that's done before too | 17:22 |
| knome | charlie-tca, at some point, we also need your input on accessibility for the new lightdm theme | 17:23 |
| knome | madnick, are there your work items in the LP blueprints that could be considered "DONE" ? | 17:24 |
| knome | you have a lot of INPROGRESS but i remember you saying most of them are basically done already, but only need feedback or sth | 17:24 |
| madnick | perhaps, the thing is, while my things (plymouth excluded) are mostly done, i need a lot of feedback | 17:24 |
| ochosi | would be good to ask for that @meetings | 17:25 |
| madnick | yes | 17:25 |
| knome | could you gather an email or a wikipage of what kind of feedback you need? | 17:25 |
| ochosi | (although even during normal days it's ok) | 17:25 |
| madnick | yes i could | 17:25 |
| knome | that would be awesome | 17:25 |
| knome | sorry for the jono reference :P | 17:25 |
| knome | anyway, i could try to send you some feedback ASAP so we can get on with things | 17:25 |
| ochosi | he | 17:25 |
| ochosi | :) | 17:25 |
| knome | right now, the burndown chart looks relatively good | 17:26 |
| madnick | at this exact moment i have people coming over for beer, but I will get to it during this weekend. | 17:27 |
| madnick | Ill send an email | 17:27 |
| madnick | to the ML | 17:27 |
| madnick | during the weekend with a link | 17:27 |
| knome | thanks a lot madnick | 17:27 |
| knome | have a nice evening with friends and beer | 17:27 |
| knome | your contribution is very much appreciated :) | 17:28 |
| madnick | :) | 17:28 |
| * knome is afk | 17:34 | |
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