=== lool- is now known as lool === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:46] No new desktop images today [14:49] charlie-tca: did you have any issues on hw with ubiquity dying on the last continue click? [14:50] I haven't had any, no [14:51] Xubuntu doesn't ever tell you to hit Enter to continue on hardware, either. [14:51] I ran 4 tests on hardware yesterday, with no problems [15:02] davmor2: Do you need something verified? [15:03] charlie-tca: No on ubuntu 64bit it keeps hanging on me when I click on the continue button on Who are you [15:03] weird [15:03] Mine went right through [15:03] Could it be the partitioning method causing it? [15:05] I'm using standard use entire drive [15:05] I will burn the image and try it [15:16] davmor2: clicked on both download updates and 3rd party software, clicked Continue, kernel oops [15:16] Trying again [15:17] charlie-tca: that's sounding about as reliable as my experience :) [15:17] heh, at least you are not alone :) [15:24] great! it's reproducable, too [15:25] Okay, try this without those boxes checked now [15:36] davmor2: seeing those kernel oops by checking the boxes, I think the image has serious issues. However, not checking is letting me continue. [15:36] Got to the "Who are you?" screen this time. Let's see what happens [15:37] yeah I had those checked so I wonder if it was oppsing but continuing at the same time [15:37] clicked continue at the last screen and it is working. I got the slideshow now. [15:38] It is one of those boxes [15:38] thatnks charlie-tca I'll update my bug and pass the info onto ev [15:38] I am betting on the 3rd party software [15:38] Let me know if I need to pull those kernel oops logs [16:36] Who is the release manager for Xubuntu for this cycle? [16:36] Normally, the release manager and the project lead are the same person [16:58] If I am going to called in the release meetings, I will need to know what is going on [17:06] charlie-tca, everything is in the meeting minutes [17:06] charlie-tca, madnick should handle the release meetings, but it seems he's been rather busy lately [17:06] as am i [17:06] Is madnick the release manager then? [17:07] that depends what that means [17:09] That means the person with the authority and responsibility for the release cycle. They can make the decisions needed, and they attend the meetings, and they try to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Development/ReleaseProcess [17:10] They keep track of what is happening throughout the release cycle, write release notes, keep the team updated, etc [17:11] i am, but since i'm not a technical person, i haven't attended the release meetings, but asked for madnick to do that [17:11] Great. Then I can have my name removed from the "must attend" list [17:12] i'm worried about that though, since as i said, madnick's been busy lately, and afaik, haven't attended [17:12] i try to send the email every week to the release ML, but sometimes i fail because i need to work on other things, or purely just forget [17:12] If he can't attend, and you are the decision maker, you should be attending [17:13] i understand that. [17:13] unfortunately things aren't so black&white [17:13] what if i didn't get a message from him saying he can't attend? [17:13] what if i can't attend myself? [17:13] Sure they are. As Project Lead, you have full and total responsibility for the release. [17:14] but before that, i have full and total responsibility of making a living. [17:14] there hasn't been problems so far [17:15] i've also been in contact with skaet, so if there is problems i hope to hear from them [17:16] hi, im back, acctually, i was quite sure I could attend today, but I got stuck in a meeting regarding my business plan that I had to dicuss before the weekend [17:17] generally speaking i don't think any single person should take too much to carry, and the optimal situation is a situation where things are distributed amongst several people [17:17] that also makes it easier to replace people, even if one dropped out in the midst of a release cycle [17:17] this doesn't mean that i'm not willing to take full responsibility for xubuntu [17:18] it just means i don't think ANYONE should do more than they can, and also that i understand that other people have other life than xubuntu too, and so have i [17:18] madnick, no problem really. how does your fridays in the future look? [17:20] I think I should be able to attend, since the meeting is outside of normal business hours anyways for me [17:20] yeah. [17:20] Its just that, this startup process is quite intense over the past few weeks [17:20] i understand [17:20] don't worry too much [17:21] are you also able to send the mail to the release ML every thursday in the following weeks? [17:21] content should be fully covered in the last team meeting minutes, unless it's some time from it [17:21] Well, if we have meetings it shouldnt be a problem, its just about getting the information [17:22] yeah, i agree [17:22] Well, let me know if you are doing the alpha2 release, so I know if I need to test it, okay? [17:22] charlie-tca, i will inform, and we most probably will if that's done before too [17:23] charlie-tca, at some point, we also need your input on accessibility for the new lightdm theme [17:24] madnick, are there your work items in the LP blueprints that could be considered "DONE" ? [17:24] you have a lot of INPROGRESS but i remember you saying most of them are basically done already, but only need feedback or sth [17:24] perhaps, the thing is, while my things (plymouth excluded) are mostly done, i need a lot of feedback [17:25] would be good to ask for that @meetings [17:25] yes [17:25] could you gather an email or a wikipage of what kind of feedback you need? [17:25] (although even during normal days it's ok) [17:25] yes i could [17:25] that would be awesome [17:25] sorry for the jono reference :P [17:25] anyway, i could try to send you some feedback ASAP so we can get on with things [17:25] he [17:25] :) [17:26] right now, the burndown chart looks relatively good [17:27] at this exact moment i have people coming over for beer, but I will get to it during this weekend. [17:27] Ill send an email [17:27] to the ML [17:27] during the weekend with a link [17:27] thanks a lot madnick [17:27] have a nice evening with friends and beer [17:28] your contribution is very much appreciated :) [17:28] :) [17:34] * knome is afk === ochosi_ is now known as ochosi === Ukikie is now known as Guest91153 === Guest91153 is now known as Unit193