| Renegade15 | good day...I recently started knotes for the first time in a while, and it ran through some automatic file conversion - now all my notes save for one are gone. Could somebody explain to me what happened there? | 00:01 |
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| AndroidLoverInSF | if i have ubuntu 11.04 and installed the kde package, and use that primarily, to upgrade to 11.10, do i follow the ubuntu directions (then install kde packages), or do i run the 11.04 -> 11.10 from kde? | 00:21 |
| dahlia | is there another package I can install to listen to shoutcast? I was using amarok but I couldnt figure out the UI and it stopped working completely | 00:25 |
| Renegade15 | both vlc and smplayer should be able to listen to shoutcast streams | 00:26 |
| dahlia | ty Ill try those | 00:26 |
| dahlia | I tried installing mplayer but it doesnt seem to work either | 00:27 |
| Renegade15 | what exactly are you looking for? | 00:28 |
| dahlia | something to listen to music with. I usually listen to shoutcast and also my mp3 collection | 00:29 |
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| dahlia | I was using amarok but it just stopped working completely, no idea why and I didnt even touch it | 00:29 |
| Renegade15 | have you looked at songbird? http://getsongbird.com/ | 00:30 |
| dahlia | Id prefer to just use whatever I can install from aptitude first | 00:30 |
| Renegade15 | looks like they killed the linux version anyway | 00:32 |
| * Renegade15 is behind the times | 00:32 | |
| dahlia | hmmm is there a linux winamp? | 00:33 |
| what_if | xmms / xmms2 | 00:33 |
| dahlia | oh I remember trying that once and totally failing lol | 00:34 |
| Renegade15 | those two are problematic, imo | 00:35 |
| westmi | VLC WORKS PRETTY GOOD | 00:35 |
| westmi | crap sory about the caps | 00:35 |
| Renegade15 | xmms was awesome, but it's outdated/discontinued | 00:35 |
| Renegade15 | and xmms2 is still in preview releases, as far as I can see | 00:35 |
| Renegade15 | wasn't very feature-rich/stable last I tried it, though that's admittedly been a while | 00:36 |
| what_if | ahhh.. looks like I'm behind on xmms :) | 00:36 |
| dahlia | installing smplayer, vlc, and xmms2. will see how they work | 00:36 |
| Renegade15 | wikipedia says the last stable was on 16 Nov 2007 | 00:36 |
| Renegade15 | a pity, really...it was as close as you could get to winamp | 00:37 |
| dahlia | vlc seems to be working :) | 00:39 |
| dahlia | anyone know how to set it as default player when I download a stream playlist on firefox? | 00:40 |
| dahlia | oh and ty for suggestions :) | 00:40 |
| Renegade15 | in the system settings, there's the app preference thingy | 00:40 |
| Renegade15 | in FF, in the Preferences, you have the Applications settings | 00:41 |
| Renegade15 | those would be my places to start, though I didn't set that up myself | 00:41 |
| Renegade15 | System Settings -> Hardware area -> Multimedia is what I mean | 00:42 |
| dahlia | ah ok I was looking in file associations | 00:42 |
| Renegade15 | my firefox actually has icecast and shoutcast playlists as already existing application types I can configure | 00:43 |
| Renegade15 | so go there, I'd guess ;) | 00:43 |
| dahlia | lol I cant even find preferences in FF | 00:45 |
| Renegade15 | are you coming straight from windows? | 00:46 |
| dahlia | I forgot to mention my eyes are kinda... meh...bad | 00:46 |
| dahlia | no Ive used linux for a long time but not kde | 00:46 |
| dahlia | I was using gnome but I cant handle the latest ubuntu unity stuff | 00:47 |
| Renegade15 | check under Edit, is my point | 00:47 |
| dahlia | so Im using kubuntu now | 00:47 |
| Renegade15 | KDE > * | 00:47 |
| dahlia | I like kde but it confuses me sometimes | 00:48 |
| Renegade15 | how so? | 00:48 |
| dahlia | not knowing where to look for things | 00:48 |
| dahlia | and amarok was totally confusing to me too | 00:49 |
| Renegade15 | eh | 00:49 |
| dahlia | I dont see well and I didnt understand the icons | 00:49 |
| * Renegade15 never liked Amarok | 00:49 | |
| dahlia | hmmm FF says VLC for a lot of applications | 00:49 |
| dahlia | so maybe its working just from installing vlc and deleting amarok | 00:50 |
| dahlia | ty :) | 00:50 |
| Renegade15 | VLC is a very solid player and among the best open source products there are - you should have no issues with it | 00:51 |
| dahlia | cool | 00:51 |
| Renegade15 | I've rarely seen anything it didn't play | 00:51 |
| Renegade15 | and those were usually very exotic codecs | 00:51 |
| westmi | vlc does play video's also :) | 00:53 |
| dahlia | I remember having it on ubuntu 9.1 and I liked it | 00:53 |
| dahlia | also used... totem? | 00:54 |
| dahlia | totem had a nice graphical thingie | 00:54 |
| * Renegade15 never used that one, either | 00:54 | |
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| kurumin | oi | 01:20 |
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| daneshar | how to convert mp3 to ogg codec ? | 01:25 |
| Renegade15 | daneshar: with an encoder/transcoder of your choice | 01:26 |
| Renegade15 | mencoder can do it, for example | 01:26 |
| Renegade15 | (at least I'm rather sure it can) | 01:26 |
| daneshar | how i can do it by terminal ? | 01:27 |
| Renegade15 | it may help your searches to know the actual codec is ogg vorbis, not just plain ogg | 01:27 |
| Renegade15 | try mencoder | 01:29 |
| administrator | hm | 01:31 |
| === administrator is now known as Guest61054 | ||
| Guest61054 | ... | 01:31 |
| Guest61054 | jemand da? | 01:32 |
| Renegade15 | ja | 01:32 |
| szal | !de | Guest61054 | 01:32 |
| ubottu | Guest61054: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 01:32 |
| Guest61054 | ich hab dieses Programm eben erst auf meinem Laptop gefunden...ist irgendwie seltsam | 01:33 |
| szal | nothing funny about Quassel, if you ask me.. you got the directions, follow them ;) | 01:34 |
| Guest61054 | okay | 01:36 |
| Zacarias | Ok, I changed my computer's name using this link http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2732/ubuntu_how_to_change_computer_name/ (I changed the two files) and now I'm stuck at the kdm login screen. Whenever I enter my username and password, it loops back to the login window with an empty password. Any help? | 02:13 |
| Zacarias | I can login via the console, however | 02:14 |
| DarthFrog | Zacarias: Two files? What two files? /etc/hostname is the only one you needed to edit. | 02:30 |
| Zacarias | DarthFrog: In the commentaries there were several ones advising to change /etc/hosts also. I did it before restarting | 02:34 |
| DarthFrog | But just hosts and hostname? That's not what's causing your GUI login problem, I shouldn't think. However, since you can login at the console, change them back and see if it makes any difference. | 02:36 |
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| Zacarias | DarthFrog: Yes, I don't see why it should. But I'll follow your advice. | 02:37 |
| CainMadness | I am having a problem getting plasma themes to work. I install them with the built-in theme lists, shows an uninstall button.. But I can't find them in the list to choose from, to change theme. What did I break? | 02:40 |
| DarthFrog | CainMadness: I don't know but you get to keep both pieces! :-) Did you log out and log back in again? I don't know if that makes any difference, though. | 02:42 |
| CainMadness | I went even so far to restart the netbook. | 02:43 |
| CainMadness | Still not showing in the list. Puzzling. | 02:43 |
| Zacarias | DarthFrog: Iloged in with the console. I tried to run sudo gedit /etc/hosts and it tells me "sudo: unable to resolve host My Computer's Name" | 02:46 |
| d1v4d | test | 03:00 |
| DarthFrog | Zacarias: Try booting into recovery mode and do it there. | 03:15 |
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| DarthFrog | Zacarias: Or boot from a LiveCD, mount your systems root partition in the live environment and then edit the file. | 03:16 |
| Zacarias | DarthFrog: I was able to open the file with nano instead of gedit. But I don't know what to do with it now | 03:16 |
| DarthFrog | Change it such that the name in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts (for 127.0.0.1) are the same. | 03:17 |
| DarthFrog | You don't need to have your hostname in /etc/hosts. "127.0.0.1 localhost" is perfectly acceptable. | 03:19 |
| Zacarias | DarthFrog: ok, I'll try that | 03:23 |
| Zacarias | DarthFrog: I deleted all the mentions to my hostname in /etc/hosts But I keep having the same problem. Login screen, then some visual noise in the screen, then the login again | 03:30 |
| DarthFrog | Zacarias: Your hostname is set in /etc/hostname. Somewhere, there is a misconfiguration. Change that name back to exactly what it was before. | 03:32 |
| Zacarias | DarthFrog: yes, I'll try that too | 03:33 |
| Zacarias | DarthFrog: Yes, that solved the problem. Is there a rule for creating hostname's? I have a hostname with two words like this "myname-xubuntu" (I was using Xubuntu before), and I tried to change ut to "Myname Ubuntu". What was the problem, do you know? | 03:41 |
| DarthFrog | Zacarias: You can name your computer anything you want, in one word. But I would presume that you introduced a conflict by changing the name by hand. | 03:42 |
| DarthFrog | You could try "sudo hostname <new name>", which is a better way to do it. | 03:43 |
| Zacarias | DarthFrog: Or by the fact that there where two separate words, maybe? Anyway, thanks for your help! | 03:44 |
| DarthFrog | Two words? I would think that might have caused the problem. | 03:44 |
| Zacarias | DarthFrog: Yes, the name I tried was "Carlos Ubuntu" (Carlos is my name, of course). | 03:46 |
| DarthFrog | Hmm, it seems that the hostname command doesn't make a permanent change and that editing /etc/hostname by hand is the way to do it. :-) "man hostname" for details. | 03:46 |
| DarthFrog | Zacarias: Try "Carlos_Ubuntu" | 03:46 |
| Zacarias | DarthFrog: Ok! | 03:46 |
| Zacarias | DarthFrog: I'll try that. | 03:46 |
| DarthFrog | Are we having FloodBot wars??? | 03:48 |
| Zacarias | It seems so! LOL | 03:49 |
| hate_ | need help muon keeps crashing and i am still really new to linux ... need help | 03:56 |
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| daniel1 | "explorer" just died in kde. I'm not sure how to relaunch it | 06:07 |
| daniel1 | anyone? | 06:07 |
| FloodBotK3 | !netsplit | 06:50 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 06:50 |
| FloodBotK2 | !netsplit | 06:53 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 06:53 |
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| ralf_ | hi | 10:47 |
| ralf_ | i've got a question, i'm developing a qt based media and game library | 10:47 |
| ralf_ | i'm looking for a way to list the installed games | 10:47 |
| ralf_ | or list installed packages from the 'games and amusement' category | 10:48 |
| ralf_ | i have some less than ideal ideas such as parsing the system menu | 10:49 |
| ralf_ | is there a better way? | 10:49 |
| ts2 | ralf_: use the apt/dpkg database, if you're only interested in Debian/Ubuntu based distros | 10:50 |
| ts2 | QApt is the library that things like muon use to interface with dpkg/apt -> https://launchpad.net/qapt | 10:51 |
| ralf_ | thanks for the tip but I don't think I would be able to make use of that since I use Lua | 10:55 |
| ralf_ | and lqt as the qt binding | 10:55 |
| ralf_ | i can use dpkg --get-selections to list the installed packages | 10:58 |
| ralf_ | i just need to set a 'games' filter | 10:58 |
| ts2 | yeah, your best bet is to use popen dpkg | 10:58 |
| ralf_ | or use qprocess and read the input | 10:59 |
| ts2 | qprocess does popen ;) | 10:59 |
| ralf_ | ok then how to filter the dpkg output to categories | 11:00 |
| ralf_ | reading the man page atm | 11:00 |
| ts2 | ralf_: maybe just parsing /var/lib/dpkg/status will help | 11:02 |
| ralf_ | ok thanks, that might be useful | 11:07 |
| ralf_ | another question | 11:07 |
| ralf_ | i would like to install a global shortcut for my app | 11:07 |
| ts2 | you need to create a .desktop file for your app, and place it in /usr/share/applications | 11:08 |
| ts2 | the format is INI style, you mostly just need an Type, Exec, and Name entry, then it should appear in the menu | 11:09 |
| ralf_ | but officially, as in add a KDE component in System Settings > Global Keyboard Shortcuts, and then list the shortcuts in there | 11:09 |
| ralf_ | ok let's see | 11:10 |
| ts2 | oh, a keyboard shortcut | 11:10 |
| ts2 | that's a little different | 11:11 |
| ts2 | to use the KDE shortcut system, you need a KDE application (using the KDE libraries), but Qt allows for global shortcuts as far as I know | 11:11 |
| ralf_ | the .desktop info is useful too, thanks for that | 11:12 |
| ralf_ | actually i could iterate over all the desktop shortcuts for installed games, answers my first question ;) | 11:14 |
| ralf_ | but afaik qt does not support global shortcuts | 11:14 |
| ts2 | I've never really tried to create a global shortcut, usually I'm only interested in shortcuts when my app has focus | 11:16 |
| ralf_ | i'd like to assign the media control buttons | 11:21 |
| ralf_ | y'know, play, next, previous, volume control etc | 11:21 |
| ralf_ | purpose of those is somewhat defeated if you need to focus the player first | 11:21 |
| ts2 | you probably need to use the KDE libs, or X directly for that | 11:21 |
| ts2 | KDE has a daemon that listens for all events and passes them along to the app | 11:22 |
| ralf_ | dbus? | 11:22 |
| ts2 | via dbus, yes | 11:22 |
| ralf_ | i noticed you can import keyboard shortcut schemes in global shortcut settings | 11:24 |
| ralf_ | so maybe I could just create a file and then import that | 11:24 |
| ts2 | the thing is, KDE would have no way to inform your application that the shortcut was activated unless it was registered with the KDE system (at least, that's how I understand it) | 11:25 |
| ralf_ | i'm looking at an exported kksrc file | 11:28 |
| ralf_ | for example | 11:28 |
| ralf_ | [yakuake][Global Shortcuts] | 11:28 |
| ralf_ | toggle-window-state=F12 | 11:28 |
| ralf_ | maybe the first field would be the window class | 11:29 |
| ralf_ | the second row the function in the app to call | 11:29 |
| ralf_ | then the last field the key | 11:29 |
| ralf_ | but that's probably wishful thinking | 11:29 |
| ts2 | I doubt there is a system to directly call methods in a foreign application | 11:30 |
| ralf_ | ok, last question for now | 11:34 |
| ralf_ | you've been helpful so far, thx :) | 11:34 |
| ralf_ | i would like to trigger a function when a usb device is connected | 11:35 |
| ralf_ | through qt if possible | 11:35 |
| ts2 | ralf_: that's not really possible in plain Qt, though you could probably do it with QtDBus and listen for signals from the system bus | 11:36 |
| ralf_ | ok, i do not have the qtdbus library anyway | 11:37 |
| ralf_ | so forget about that for now | 11:37 |
| ts2 | there is also the Qt Mobility API, but that's a separate set of libraries build on Qt | 11:38 |
| ralf_ | i'm restricted to the libs lqt offers me | 11:39 |
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| PadurKaril | HI | 11:41 |
| ralf_ | maybe another tiny question | 11:43 |
| ralf_ | in my app, i need to browse for an executable | 11:43 |
| ralf_ | I can check whether the file is executable, but not whether it is the one i'm looking for | 11:44 |
| ralf_ | so i would need to look into the file and get stuff such as the description and version | 11:45 |
| ralf_ | so i'm looking at some ELF documentation | 11:45 |
| ralf_ | and commands such as 'file' and 'strings' | 11:45 |
| ralf_ | but i don't think they do what i want | 11:46 |
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| princess | join #ubuntu-fr-offtopic | 12:58 |
| Kottizen | Hello, when following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/F5D7000 I was told to 'sudo ndiswrapper -hotplug'. However, that parameter does not exist any more. What should I do? | 13:36 |
| Peace- | !ndiswrapper | Kottizen | 13:42 |
| ubottu | Kottizen: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 13:42 |
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| ChaosR | Hi, for some reason plasma has been often crashing randomly for me for the past few days, anybody knows why? I think it started after installing some updates | 13:52 |
| spartan977 | hallo people! | 13:55 |
| spartan977 | I notice some video artifact when i run dolphin. Can someone tell me why and how to correct this issue? | 13:57 |
| spartan977 | When i call dolphin, where should be the toolbar i see an artifact, often as a white background with a lof of back dots and dashes. This for a couple of second or till dolphin is loaded. | 14:05 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 14:40 |
| dbc254 | To anyone listening. I'm on a motorcycle forum. Daily email with the entries for that day. Used to be, I could click on one title and it would drop down to that entry in the email update. Now it doesn't. What happened? | 14:43 |
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| ste | aiuto come faccio a registrarmi grazie | 15:44 |
| Peace- | apachelogger: ping | 15:57 |
| savio | hello | 16:01 |
| BluesKaj | hello savio | 16:07 |
| savio | hi BlueKaj | 16:08 |
| BluesKaj | just letting you know there are ppl here who are awake :) | 16:09 |
| savio | hahaha | 16:09 |
| savio | thx | 16:10 |
| savio | help? | 16:10 |
| BluesKaj | just ask | 16:11 |
| savio | my ubuntu don't have brcm80211 driver | 16:11 |
| savio | where would i get this? | 16:11 |
| BluesKaj | !broadcom | 16:11 |
| ubottu | Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 16:11 |
| BluesKaj | oops not the right one | 16:12 |
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| savio | i also check kernel source | 16:12 |
| savio | download from linux-next | 16:12 |
| BluesKaj | savio, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless | 16:15 |
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| daniele | hi all | 16:43 |
| lethu | hello, daniele | 16:45 |
| BluesKaj | hi daniele | 16:45 |
| daniele | hi is the first time i use IRc, i'm a little bit confused :) | 16:47 |
| pardo | Hola | 16:51 |
| pardo | Hello everyone | 16:51 |
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| BluesKaj | hi pardo | 16:53 |
| pardo | hi BluesKaj | 16:53 |
| pardo | I need help with a trouble in my kubuntu | 16:54 |
| pardo | Could you help me, please. | 16:55 |
| BluesKaj | pardo, describe your problem with as much detail as possible | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | Peace-: pong | 16:59 |
| pardo | I have a problem installing programs on my pc. Every time I try to install one, for example LibreOffice, I get an error with the sudo command. | 17:01 |
| daniele | i think you should write down what that error is | 17:04 |
| pardo | ok, let me a moment. I show you in a few seconds | 17:06 |
| daniele | If you has never touched the /etc/sudoers and similar files. the problem is usually quite simple | 17:08 |
| daniele | ps: "has never touched" is correct?? i'm not english :D | 17:10 |
| pardo | Do you talk spanish, Daniele? | 17:13 |
| hansg01 | please help me make kubuntu resemble ubuntu in keyboard shorcuts | 17:15 |
| hansg01 | how to assign the keyboard shortcut of konsole to that of the terminal ctrl+alt+t? | 17:15 |
| daniele | no pardo, i'm italian | 17:16 |
| pardo | ok, no problem. | 17:16 |
| BluesKaj | pardo, libreoffice updates are broken at the moment due to a bug , so it's probly just that app that's a problem. | 17:16 |
| daniele | exactly sicily, but we're not as the godfather shows you man :D we're mostly great people | 17:16 |
| pardo | ok, read this please: The problem is that to install LibreOffice, I must first uninstall OpenOffice. So first try to uninstall Openoffice with this line of code: sudo apt-get purge openoffice. For console but when I enter my password and I enter, it shows me this error: Violation of the segment. | 17:17 |
| BluesKaj | pardo, keep open office for now , libreoffice is broken | 17:18 |
| pardo | it's so bad. | 17:18 |
| BluesKaj | yes | 17:18 |
| BluesKaj | pardo, . wait for a week or so until the problem is fixed | 17:19 |
| pardo | very funny Daniele :D i think you are great people. The godfather is only a stereotype. | 17:20 |
| daniele | the error is very strange | 17:21 |
| pardo | thanks BluesKaj, I'll be watching :) | 17:21 |
| daniele | it happens with any program you try to uninstall? | 17:21 |
| pardo | I try uninstal only this. | 17:22 |
| BluesKaj | daniele, the libreoffice is partly installed but it can't finish installing due to the broken dependencies some other apps also require . You can try purging the partly installe libre office manually by purging but I doubt that it will work | 17:24 |
| BluesKaj | pardo ^ | 17:24 |
| BluesKaj | sorry daniele , that was meant for pardo | 17:25 |
| pardo | But, in general, when i try install other one, it show me the same error. | 17:25 |
| daniele | yeah, i got it BlueSkaj, and i think you're right | 17:25 |
| BluesKaj | yes , see my expalnaton above , it blocks other installs | 17:26 |
| BluesKaj | pardo, can you purge libreoffice ? | 17:26 |
| RocknRolla | hey i have to register m nick name "savio" | 17:27 |
| RocknRolla | can some1 drop it pls | 17:27 |
| BluesKaj | !register | 17:27 |
| ubottu | Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode | 17:27 |
| pardo | but, i haven't install Libreoffice. | 17:27 |
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| pardo | I want install LibreOffice but before I have to uninstall OpenOffice. | 17:28 |
| pardo | And i can't purge OpenOffice. | 17:28 |
| BluesKaj | pardo, it's partially installed if it's depenedencies are blocking other apps from installing | 17:29 |
| pardo | i see. | 17:29 |
| savio | who is using nick name savio? | 17:29 |
| hansg01 | kubuntu graphics changed a lot | 17:30 |
| pardo | in this case. must I purge LibreOffice? | 17:30 |
| BluesKaj | yes | 17:30 |
| pardo | ok | 17:30 |
| pardo | let a moment please. | 17:31 |
| pardo | let me*** | 17:31 |
| BluesKaj | pardo, it might not be possible | 17:31 |
| hansg01 | what to do windows switcher not there cubic workspace switcher not there | 17:31 |
| pardo | so, what i can do? | 17:32 |
| BluesKaj | did you try | 17:32 |
| pardo | yes BluesKaj, and show me the same error. | 17:33 |
| BluesKaj | pardo, try , sudo apt-get -f install | 17:35 |
| BluesKaj | hansg01, open system settings >desktop effects | 17:36 |
| hansg01 | Blueskaj yeah done next? | 17:37 |
| BluesKaj | enable dsktop effects , look at your options there | 17:37 |
| wesker | Hello=) | 17:38 |
| pardo | not work BluesKaj | 17:38 |
| BluesKaj | pardo, ok , sudo dpkg --configure -a | 17:39 |
| wesker | Friends tell me, can be a problem when upgrading from Kubuntu 11.04 to 11.10? | 17:41 |
| pardo | ok BluesKaj, I run the code and it works. | 17:41 |
| pardo | Thanks | 17:41 |
| BluesKaj | wesker, it shouldn't be a problem , 11.10 is quite stable | 17:42 |
| BluesKaj | pardo, glad to to hear it :) | 17:42 |
| wesker | Thanks | 17:42 |
| BluesKaj | wesker, your friends are running kubntu 11.04 ? | 17:43 |
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| BluesKaj | perhaps ubuntu 11.10 might be a problem , but not kubuntu , wesker | 17:44 |
| daniele | no it isn't | 17:44 |
| BluesKaj | daniele, the unity desktop is for some ppl whose hardware can't handle the GUI | 17:45 |
| pardo | Other question BleasKaj. Just curiosity. Where are you from? | 17:45 |
| BluesKaj | pardo, Canada | 17:46 |
| BluesKaj | born in Finland , emiograted to Canada when I was just a child | 17:47 |
| BluesKaj | emigrated | 17:47 |
| wesker | Unity - a very bad ideya.Gnome 3 - full horror) found KDE 4.7. use with pleasure. I'm sorry. I communicate with you through an interpreter .=))) | 17:50 |
| Peace- | wesker: welll i just use kde because it can be what you want | 17:51 |
| Peace- | xD | 17:51 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: xD | 17:51 |
| BluesKaj | Peace-, :>) | 17:52 |
| wesker | =) | 17:52 |
| Peace- | wesker: you wanna see the pure horror ?! | 17:52 |
| BluesKaj | ok , have to do some errands, BBL ..I leave you in Peace-'s capable hands :) | 17:53 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: :) | 17:53 |
| Peace- | wesker: see this wesker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzEty1TYAE see this | 17:53 |
| === dave is now known as Guest87410 | ||
| === Guest87410 is now known as DaveWM | ||
| pardo | Ok people, i see you later. | 17:55 |
| pardo | It was a pleasure having read. | 17:55 |
| DaveWM | I'm having a bit of a problem here. Trying to get skype setup for my mom, every time I go to System Settings, Multimedia, Phonon, | 17:57 |
| DaveWM | audo capture... I try to move the preferred device up | 17:57 |
| DaveWM | I click apply and when I leave and come back to it, its back the way it was | 17:58 |
| DaveWM | sorry, keep hitting enter on accident. :/ | 17:58 |
| === ironfroggy_ is now known as Guest37335 | ||
| DaveWM | in other words phonon doesnt appear to be saving the order of my preferred devices | 17:59 |
| DaveWM | I even ran the system settings thing with sudo and tried that way, still no luck | 18:00 |
| wesker | How to patch KDE2 under FreeBSD? xD | 18:13 |
| mozzy | is there a fix for muon center? | 18:14 |
| mozzy | ill try update and upgrade again today, hasnt fixed it | 18:15 |
| mozzy | last update broke muon :( | 18:19 |
| mozzy | and fixs for muon or other package manager recomendations? | 18:20 |
| mozzy | any* | 18:20 |
| mozzy | ty | 18:20 |
| mozzy | had to run sudo dpkg --configure -a | 18:22 |
| mozzy | when it asked me to | 18:22 |
| mozzy | i ran it and let it fix | 18:22 |
| mozzy | then retried updates to fix muon in terminal | 18:22 |
| mozzy | it said 0 new updates | 18:22 |
| mozzy | like i was upto date even tho dpkg hung badly during updates the first round | 18:23 |
| mozzy | any help would be appreciated, ty in advance | 18:23 |
| mozzy | seraching forum for recomendations... | 18:27 |
| mozzy | seen this issue on 3 kubuntu PCs so far | 18:28 |
| mozzy | "Executable: muon-installer PID: 1820 Signal: Segmentation fault (11)" | 18:29 |
| mozzy | should i just try to update muon alone...in terminal? | 18:29 |
| mozzy | sudo apt=get muon-installer ? | 18:31 |
| mozzy | sudo apt-get muon-installer | 18:31 |
| mozzy | can anyone plxz advise me, do i need to remove muon center before i reinstall | 18:32 |
| mozzy | -.- | 18:33 |
| mozzy | met with silence,,, | 18:33 |
| BarkingFish | mozzy: first of all, please don't use enter as a punctuation mark :) You can type two or three lines without flooding safely :) | 18:34 |
| mozzy | oh gosh | 18:34 |
| mozzy | lol | 18:34 |
| mozzy | ok then, ill try to keep it all to one line and condense | 18:34 |
| BarkingFish | anyhow, try to reinstall muon-installer - you can use this command: sudo apt-get install muon-installer --reinstall | 18:35 |
| mozzy | deal, ty | 18:36 |
| mozzy | i was missing the --reinstall part, ill add it to my notes ty | 18:36 |
| BarkingFish | if you can't get it to work, there are other graphic package managers within kubuntu, which are nicer than muon anyway! :) | 18:36 |
| * BarkingFish is biased, but likes apper | 18:36 | |
| mozzy | oh ya!?! | 18:36 |
| mozzy | :) | 18:36 |
| mozzy | thought there might be | 18:37 |
| BarkingFish | hi again wesker__ - I saw your post up above. We don't deal with KDE2 or with FreeBSD here - if you have questions about KDE, they go in #kde - FreeBSD questions in ##freebsd :) | 18:38 |
| mozzy | invalid operation, I tryed sudo apt-get muon-installer(andinstaller) --reinstall | 18:40 |
| mozzy | brb | 18:40 |
| BarkingFish | ok | 18:40 |
| BarkingFish | that's cause I gave you the command the wrong way round, mozzy - sorry :) | 18:41 |
| BarkingFish | It should be: sudo apt-get install --reinstall muon-installer | 18:41 |
| utente | is there a boot option like this "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" however for HD or partitions? | 18:54 |
| utente | anyone home? | 18:56 |
| mozzy | ty BarkingFish the command worked and reinstalled muon perfectly, unfortunatly the error remains | 19:02 |
| mozzy | "Executable: muon-installer PID: 1820 Signal: Segmentation fault (11)" | 19:03 |
| BarkingFish | hm | 19:03 |
| mozzy | a lib perhaps? | 19:03 |
| BarkingFish | are you able to use any of the other gui package managers? | 19:03 |
| mozzy | now its PID 1919 | 19:03 |
| BarkingFish | possibly. which version of kubuntu are you on | 19:03 |
| mozzy | 11.10 | 19:03 |
| mozzy | fresh install | 19:03 |
| mozzy | ran all updates and dpkg hung | 19:04 |
| mozzy | had to do a dpkg --configure -a for it to sort itself out | 19:04 |
| BarkingFish | mozzy: try using apper and see how you get on | 19:04 |
| BarkingFish | and I'll look into muon-installer and see what the heck is going on | 19:04 |
| mozzy | ok, whats the terminal command | 19:05 |
| mozzy | TY | 19:05 |
| mozzy | its happened on 3 PCs now, that i know of | 19:05 |
| BluesKaj | I wish the devs would issue a bug about muon , this is becoming a pita , and it hasn't been stable since it's inception | 19:05 |
| mozzy | updates can be killers on any operating system | 19:06 |
| BarkingFish | mozzy: if you're in a GUI, just press ALT + F2 and type apper, hit enter and it will go from there | 19:06 |
| mozzy | more testing is required | 19:06 |
| mozzy | ok | 19:06 |
| BluesKaj | mozzy, forget muon , use apper or apt-get in the terminal | 19:06 |
| BarkingFish | I say we send this back to upstream, BluesKaj - muon is not good. | 19:06 |
| BarkingFish | let me have a work in the dev channel | 19:07 |
| BarkingFish | *word | 19:07 |
| mozzy | ok, no luck with apper run command | 19:07 |
| mozzy | must not be installed | 19:07 |
| mozzy | TY | 19:07 |
| BluesKaj | BarkingFish, they're aware of it upstream I'm sure , the dam thing has never worked from the get-go | 19:07 |
| mozzy | think ill need to do up apper via terminal | 19:08 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, apper doesn't seem to be listed in kmenu>apps>system | 19:09 |
| BarkingFish | mozzy: sudo apt-get install apper | 19:09 |
| mozzy | will do barkingfish ty | 19:09 |
| BarkingFish | BluesKaj: I have it right at the top of the K button, System - Apper (Software Management) | 19:10 |
| BarkingFish | i gotta go out guys, be back in about 50 mins or so. | 19:11 |
| mozzy | ok | 19:11 |
| mozzy | cya later, thx again | 19:11 |
| BarkingFish | np | 19:11 |
| BluesKaj | BarkingFish, I probly removed it a while back in one of my cleanup apps ai never use moods :) | 19:11 |
| mozzy | ahhh, apper is nice :) | 19:12 |
| mozzy | going to test install a few things, see how it reacts | 19:12 |
| BluesKaj | dumped all the relevant dirs and folders for akonadi , now I'm about to do the same for nepomuk . usr/bin, usr/lib, usr/share etc | 19:13 |
| ubuntu | Hello :) | 19:18 |
| mozzy | hi | 19:18 |
| mozzy | installin Midori Web Borwser :D | 19:19 |
| mozzy | light and fast | 19:19 |
| ubuntu | just checking out this Quassel irc | 19:19 |
| ubuntu | never heard of midori | 19:19 |
| ubuntu | hahaha - look at the nick I got :) | 19:20 |
| mozzy | apper worked good | 19:20 |
| mozzy | SUCCESS | 19:20 |
| mozzy | c[_] | 19:20 |
| mozzy | midori is nice, uses webkit engine | 19:20 |
| mozzy | same as safari | 19:20 |
| ubuntu | hmmm | 19:21 |
| mozzy | its extremly fast and light | 19:21 |
| wesker_ | Well, why do you need the browser?))) is better than opera) | 19:21 |
| mozzy | itd good to have more then 1 :P | 19:21 |
| wesker_ | or firefox=) | 19:21 |
| mozzy | Firefox is my main browser | 19:21 |
| mozzy | since 2004 | 19:21 |
| mozzy | :) | 19:22 |
| mozzy | hence my nickname..mozzy | 19:22 |
| ubuntu | just got a new dell precision m4600 - 16 Gb and ssd :). Just playing around on it now - running kubuntu live cd | 19:22 |
| mozzy | very nice | 19:22 |
| wesker_ | IE for linux =)))))))))))) | 19:22 |
| mozzy | haa | 19:22 |
| mozzy | sadly it can be done | 19:22 |
| mozzy | :P | 19:22 |
| mozzy | winetricks | 19:23 |
| ubuntu | yeah, you can probably skin windows to look like linux too | 19:23 |
| ubuntu | hahahahahahahahhahaha | 19:23 |
| PadeTezafair | guys! | 19:24 |
| PadeTezafair | lol | 19:24 |
| ubuntu | hey Ppade | 19:24 |
| PadeTezafair | n00b problem | 19:24 |
| wesker_ | hmmmIt was then, and come the end of the world =))) | 19:24 |
| PadeTezafair | lol | 19:24 |
| PadeTezafair | i've juste install Kubuntu | 19:24 |
| PadeTezafair | There's usually a 'Taskbar' on the bottom... | 19:24 |
| mozzy | cool, use apper package manager for now, the updates kill muon | 19:25 |
| ubuntu | OK, I have a question --- I wanna run linux but I want it to look like windows and act like windows. What dist should I use :) | 19:25 |
| PadeTezafair | I've deleted it :S ... don't find how to reactive it :S | 19:25 |
| mozzy | any good kde distro | 19:25 |
| ubuntu | It has to be EXACTLY like windows, but free | 19:25 |
| PadeTezafair | ubuntu, install Windows dude | 19:25 |
| wesker_ | in KDE 5 IE will be installed by default)) | 19:25 |
| mozzy | Kubuntu 11.10, Mint 12(install kde) | 19:26 |
| ubuntu | wow !!!!! Great idea - thanx | 19:26 |
| mozzy | Mint 12 has a kde version theyre working on | 19:26 |
| mozzy | its currently an RC | 19:26 |
| wesker_ | ohh.. | 19:26 |
| ubuntu | that was not meant to be a factual statement ;P | 19:26 |
| Snowhog | ubuntu: Not gonna find such. | 19:26 |
| mozzy | well guess you got me that time :P | 19:27 |
| Snowhog | ubuntu: For a Linux to work EXACTLY like Windows, it would have to crash - often. :) | 19:27 |
| ubuntu | got me some screen flicker on this ne machine :( | 19:27 |
| mozzy | setup fake bluescreen screensavor to trigger every 5 min :) | 19:28 |
| PadeTezafair | guys... I've deleted the taskbar on the bottom of Kubuntu 11.10 ... How can I re-add it ??? | 19:28 |
| wesker_ | As far as I saw on the internet, there are issues but they unfortunately for gnome. | 19:28 |
| ubuntu | I got a windows emulator out in the alley next to the garage | 19:28 |
| mozzy | give it that windows feel lol | 19:28 |
| Saito05 | kubuntu 11.10 tiene muchos errores :( | 19:28 |
| wesker_ | Windows blatantly copied KDE =)) | 19:28 |
| ubuntu | hmmmmmmmmmmm | 19:28 |
| mozzy | add the default panel again | 19:29 |
| Saito05 | alguien que hable español? | 19:29 |
| ubuntu | hows unbunto 11.10 or one of the 11.04s ? | 19:29 |
| Snowhog | !sp | Saito05 | 19:29 |
| mozzy | might need to drag all the widgets back in, main menu kicker, task twitcher etc | 19:29 |
| mozzy | @Pade | 19:30 |
| Snowhog | !sp Saito05 | 19:30 |
| Saito05 | Kubuntu 11.04 es mas estable que 11.10, a que se debe eso? | 19:30 |
| Snowhog | Hmm. I never remember the syntax for that. | 19:30 |
| mozzy | english please | 19:31 |
| mozzy | no hable mucho espanol | 19:31 |
| mozzy | hablo* | 19:31 |
| wesker_ | People. when will the release of Ubuntu 12? | 19:31 |
| === ubuntu is now known as mechasr | ||
| mechasr | think I'll go try me another distro | 19:32 |
| mechasr | this quassel irc is kinda nice | 19:33 |
| mechasr | see ya | 19:33 |
| mozzy | cya | 19:35 |
| wesker_ | ? | 19:36 |
| wesker_ | =) | 19:36 |
| wesker_ | saito05 lo siento por mi ignorancia de la lengua. Por experiencia puedo decir que cuanto más estable que el 11.04 11.10 11.10 En repetidas ocasiones he observado heladas. y reinicios inesperados. + inhibe bastante fuerte | 19:42 |
| Snowhog | !es | wesker_ | 19:43 |
| ubottu | wesker_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. | 19:43 |
| klgu | hello, not because it has misconfigured the keyboard language use kubuntu 11.10 did not touch anything, is going well with any failure upgrade? As I can grow to be fine? thanks | 19:43 |
| Snowhog | FloodBotK3: klgu is a bot? | 19:44 |
| klgu | que va | 19:45 |
| klgu | im not a bot | 19:45 |
| Snowhog | klgu: :) Your first message was, well, 'odd'. sorry | 19:46 |
| klgu | Snowhog, sorry if I use a translator, not much English but I need the help thanks. It literally translates this sorry | 19:47 |
| Snowhog | klgu: What is your native language? | 19:47 |
| klgu | spanish | 19:48 |
| Snowhog | !es | klgu | 19:48 |
| ubottu | klgu: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. | 19:48 |
| wesker_ | interesting), I also use a translator =) imagine what the text twice driven out through google?))) | 19:49 |
| klgu | Snowhog, not many people on that channel would not know me as the response of the keyboard is misconfigured | 19:50 |
| wesker_ | klgu Put on another way to enter in the settings klaviatury.esli I understand the question | 19:53 |
| wesker_ | sorry. keyboard | 19:53 |
| wesker_ | Put on another way to enter in the settings of the keyboard. If I understand the question | 19:54 |
| klgu | klaviatury.esli ? | 19:54 |
| wesker_ | sorry.i use google translate=)) | 19:55 |
| klgu | how I can reconfigure the keyboard to my language? | 19:56 |
| wesker_ | system is localized to your language? | 19:57 |
| wesker_ | ?? | 19:59 |
| wesker_ | Klgu? | 20:01 |
| Viktorious | Quick question, I'm running out of space on a virtual installation, so I create a new virtual hard drive so I can move /home over to that harddrive. I only have the following question: | 20:05 |
| Viktorious | If I set the mount point of say /dev/sdb1 as /home, and edit my fstab then it should work right? But then what happens when the system mounts my other hard drive, which has "/" as a mount point?? | 20:06 |
| Viktorious | Since /home would be a part of "/" anyway? | 20:06 |
| daneshar | i am using a wi-fi dongle. its asking for network name in hidden network . what to give the name ???? | 20:06 |
| BarkingFish | daneshar: you can only connect to a hidden wifi network if you know the SSID it uses to broadcast | 20:12 |
| BarkingFish | if you don't know the name of the network, you're stuck. Ask whoever administers the network, assuming you're supposed to have access to it :) | 20:12 |
| daneshar | how i can do that ? | 20:13 |
| BarkingFish | all networks have a name to broadcast under - some hide the name so that only authorised persons can connect to it - they'd be given the details by the owner of the network. If there's a hidden network, and you don't know its name, the chances are you're not meant to be on it. If you are, speak to whoever owns or runs the network. | 20:15 |
| klgu | wesker_, yes my system is on my language | 20:15 |
| daneshar | how to scan that ? | 20:17 |
| klgu | wesker_, thanks for your help I have to go see if I fix it later. to another bye | 20:18 |
| wesker_ | Good luck | 20:19 |
| BarkingFish | daneshar: You can't scan for the name of a hidden network. That's the whole reason it's hidden :P | 20:20 |
| daneshar | then how to connect other network ? | 20:21 |
| wesker_ | all the secret actually is clearly =))) | 20:22 |
| wesker_ | <daneshar Network manager installed? | 20:23 |
| Snowhog | daneshar: If there isn't another "unhidden" network in the scan, then you can't. | 20:23 |
| BarkingFish | daneshar: if you're using network manager, it should show a list of networks which are available. if there's one in the list you have permission to access, like a public wifi, click it and you'll be asked for its password if it has one. enter the password and wait, and you'll get connected | 20:23 |
| BarkingFish | if there is nothing else in that list, no wifi networks other than a hidden one are available | 20:23 |
| daneshar | thanks buddy now i understand ! | 20:24 |
| wesker_ | are you sure that you are an access point? | 20:26 |
| mozzy | hi BarkingFish | 20:29 |
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| mozzy | apper is very nice thx | 20:29 |
| mozzy | installed midori just find | 20:29 |
| mozzy | fine* | 20:29 |
| mozzy | going to redirect the other 2 kubuntu users that have an issue with muon to apper \o/ | 20:30 |
| BarkingFish | hi mozzy - very pleased to hear you're getting on ok with it, I saw muon once and couldn't get the hang of it, gave up on it. I'm used to apper's interface, since it's almost identical to what I started on, kpackagekit | 20:32 |
| mozzy | oh ok | 20:33 |
| mozzy | im useto using synaptic myself on PCLInuxOS | 20:33 |
| mozzy | even tho its kinda ugly, non noober friendly and ancient lol | 20:34 |
| mozzy | ;) | 20:34 |
| mozzy | its good to have a rpm and a debian based distros goin | 20:35 |
| wesker_ | So ... Sleep today, I did not lay))) | 20:37 |
| mozzy | youve made me realise im in too much of a rush to press enter lol | 20:38 |
| wesker_ | xD | 20:38 |
| wesker_ | friends tell me, who now plays in that? work, work .... also wants to play | 20:40 |
| javaholic5 | Hey guys, I have deployed two questionnaires and would appreciate it if you could take about 3 minutes of your time to complete any one of them. | 20:43 |
| javaholic5 | Your answers will be completely anonymous. Thank you in advance for all your help. | 20:43 |
| javaholic5 | Developers' questionnaire: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGUwNkl2QVk4bDEtblhfUjFfelZXZlE6MQ | 20:43 |
| javaholic5 | General IT user questionnaire: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHA2UUhWSVV2WWw4M2VPNnJKNDR5VkE6MQ | 20:43 |
| FloodBotK3 | javaholic5: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 20:43 |
| wesker_ | and there flooders... | 20:45 |
| javaholic5 | yes, just got the warning msg, sorry | 20:47 |
| wesker_ | that's good) | 20:49 |
| wesker_ | I go to bed) bye =))) | 20:57 |
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| === sleepy is now known as Guest80631 | ||
| === tortue is now known as tortue__ | ||
| josm | Hi, im having issues with my sources.list. Trying to add only php5 packages from dotdeb but its unable to find Packages.gz. | 21:37 |
| Snowhog | josm: What is the entry you have in sources.list for dotdeb? | 21:51 |
| josm | deb http://packages.dotdeb.org stable php5 | 21:51 |
| Snowhog | josm: That isn't correct. What version of Kubuntu are you running? | 21:52 |
| josm | Snowhog: Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS | 21:53 |
| josm | The syntax might be wrong, but it should at least be the same for all ubuntu/debian servers | 21:53 |
| Snowhog | josm: See http://www.dotdeb.org/instructions/ for instructions on adding the entry for your sources.list as well as getting the gpg key. | 21:58 |
| josm | Snowhog: yes i did that initially. Problem is, I dont want to use the other packages, like mysql, from dotdeb | 21:59 |
| josm | Snowhog: I just want to use php5 and nginx | 21:59 |
| josm | And I must use the sources.list, since im gona do the same on several machines. automatic distribution of sources.list via puppet | 22:00 |
| josm | And for what I can find in man sources.list, its supposed to work the way I think. Perhaps *if* there is an packages.gz in the php5 directory? | 22:01 |
| josm | Snowhog: thanks for looking into it | 22:06 |
| Snowhog | josm: Try changing the entry to this: deb http://packages.dotdeb.org/dists/ stable php5 | 22:08 |
| josm | Snowhog: Packages.gz 404 Not Found | 22:09 |
| josm | :( | 22:09 |
| josm | it says dists/dists actualy | 22:12 |
| Snowhog | josm: I don't think you are going to be able to do what you want - limit to php5 package only. The Packages.gz files are only in the ../dist/stable/all/binary-* directories. | 22:20 |
| josm | perhaps. But how do one control which repos, specific packages should be fetched from? | 22:22 |
| josm | was reading about apt-pinning, but i have always thought it were to hold a package at a version | 22:23 |
| josm | not control repo | 22:23 |
| josm | Default is to install the package with highest version number. And I dont want mysql to be updated from a less stable repository | 22:25 |
| josm | man apt_preferences | 22:28 |
| mozzy | hi all | 22:32 |
| mozzy | jjust spent 20-30 making a new condensed homescreen on my droid tablet, it was worth it \o/ | 22:32 |
| mozzy | would it be ok if i post a mediafire screenshot url? | 22:33 |
| FloodBotK3 | !netsplit | 22:38 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 22:38 |
| mozzy | woah bigtime netsplit | 22:38 |
| josm | mozzy: i would like to se | 22:40 |
| josm | e | 22:40 |
| mozzy | :) | 22:40 |
| mozzy | ok | 22:40 |
| mozzy | http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=399apdiwcdig6cs&thumb=6 | 22:40 |
| mozzy | hope i dont get kicked for posting a link | 22:40 |
| mozzy | its orange sunset go launcher ex theme on a kindle fire | 22:40 |
| mozzy | condensed everything into on master homescreen | 22:41 |
| mozzy | :) | 22:41 |
| mozzy | one* | 22:41 |
| josm | funky | 22:42 |
| mozzy | useto have 7 or 8 homescreens | 22:43 |
| mozzy | "workspaces" | 22:43 |
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| josm | ok. | 22:45 |
| === mohammed is now known as Guest78850 | ||
| wesker_ | So I slept), I with you again | 23:38 |
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