[00:01] <Renegade15> good day...I recently started knotes for the first time in a while, and it ran through some automatic file conversion - now all my notes save for one are gone. Could somebody explain to me what happened there?
[00:21] <AndroidLoverInSF> if i have ubuntu 11.04 and installed the kde package, and use that primarily, to upgrade to 11.10, do i follow the ubuntu directions (then install kde packages), or do i run the 11.04 -> 11.10 from kde?
[00:25] <dahlia> is there another package I can install to listen to shoutcast? I was using amarok but I couldnt figure out the UI and it stopped working completely
[00:26] <Renegade15> both vlc and smplayer should be able to listen to shoutcast streams
[00:26] <dahlia> ty Ill try those
[00:27] <dahlia> I tried installing mplayer but it doesnt seem to work either
[00:28] <Renegade15> what exactly are you looking for?
[00:29] <dahlia> something to listen to music with. I usually listen to shoutcast and also my mp3 collection
[00:29] <dahlia> I was using amarok but it just stopped working completely, no idea why and I didnt even touch it
[00:30] <Renegade15> have you looked at songbird? http://getsongbird.com/
[00:30] <dahlia> Id prefer to just use whatever I can install from aptitude first
[00:32] <Renegade15> looks like they killed the linux version anyway
[00:32]  * Renegade15 is behind the times
[00:33] <dahlia> hmmm is there a linux winamp?
[00:33] <what_if> xmms / xmms2
[00:34] <dahlia> oh I remember trying that once and totally failing lol
[00:35] <Renegade15> those two are problematic, imo
[00:35] <westmi> VLC WORKS PRETTY GOOD
[00:35] <westmi> crap sory about the caps
[00:35] <Renegade15> xmms was awesome, but it's outdated/discontinued
[00:35] <Renegade15> and xmms2 is still in preview releases, as far as I can see
[00:36] <Renegade15> wasn't very feature-rich/stable last I tried it, though that's admittedly been a while
[00:36] <what_if> ahhh.. looks like I'm behind on xmms :)
[00:36] <dahlia> installing smplayer, vlc, and xmms2. will see how they work
[00:36] <Renegade15> wikipedia says the last stable was on 16 Nov 2007
[00:37] <Renegade15> a pity, really...it was as close as you could get to winamp
[00:39] <dahlia> vlc seems to be working :)
[00:40] <dahlia> anyone know how to set it as default player when I download a stream playlist on firefox?
[00:40] <dahlia> oh and ty for suggestions :)
[00:40] <Renegade15> in the system settings, there's the app preference thingy
[00:41] <Renegade15> in FF, in the Preferences, you have the Applications settings
[00:41] <Renegade15> those would be my places to start, though I didn't set that up myself
[00:42] <Renegade15> System Settings -> Hardware area -> Multimedia is what I mean
[00:42] <dahlia> ah ok I was looking in file associations
[00:43] <Renegade15> my firefox actually has icecast and shoutcast playlists as already existing application types I can configure
[00:43] <Renegade15> so go there, I'd guess ;)
[00:45] <dahlia> lol I cant even find preferences in FF
[00:46] <Renegade15> are you coming straight from windows?
[00:46] <dahlia> I forgot to mention my eyes are kinda... meh...bad
[00:46] <dahlia> no Ive used linux for a long time but not kde
[00:47] <dahlia> I was using gnome but I cant handle the latest ubuntu unity stuff
[00:47] <Renegade15> check under Edit, is my point
[00:47] <dahlia> so Im using kubuntu now
[00:47] <Renegade15> KDE > *
[00:48] <dahlia> I like kde but it confuses me sometimes
[00:48] <Renegade15> how so?
[00:48] <dahlia> not knowing where to look for things
[00:49] <dahlia> and amarok was totally confusing to me too
[00:49] <Renegade15> eh
[00:49] <dahlia> I dont see well and I didnt understand the icons
[00:49]  * Renegade15 never liked Amarok
[00:49] <dahlia> hmmm FF says VLC for a lot of applications
[00:50] <dahlia> so maybe its working just from installing vlc and deleting amarok
[00:50] <dahlia> ty :)
[00:51] <Renegade15> VLC is a very solid player and among the best open source products there are - you should have no issues with it
[00:51] <dahlia> cool
[00:51] <Renegade15> I've rarely seen anything it didn't play
[00:51] <Renegade15> and those were usually very exotic codecs
[00:53] <westmi> vlc does play video's also :)
[00:53] <dahlia> I remember having it on ubuntu 9.1 and I liked it
[00:54] <dahlia> also used... totem?
[00:54] <dahlia> totem had a nice graphical thingie
[00:54]  * Renegade15 never used that one, either
[01:20] <kurumin> oi
[01:25] <daneshar> how to convert mp3 to ogg codec ?
[01:26] <Renegade15> daneshar: with an encoder/transcoder of your choice
[01:26] <Renegade15> mencoder can do it, for example
[01:26] <Renegade15> (at least I'm rather sure it can)
[01:27] <daneshar> how i can do it by terminal ?
[01:27] <Renegade15> it may help your searches to know the actual codec is ogg vorbis, not just plain ogg
[01:29] <Renegade15> try mencoder
[01:31] <administrator> hm
[01:31] <Guest61054> ...
[01:32] <Guest61054> jemand da?
[01:32] <Renegade15> ja
[01:32] <szal> !de | Guest61054
[01:33] <Guest61054> ich hab dieses Programm eben erst auf meinem Laptop gefunden...ist irgendwie seltsam
[01:34] <szal> nothing funny about Quassel, if you ask me..  you got the directions, follow them ;)
[01:36] <Guest61054> okay
[02:13] <Zacarias> Ok, I changed my computer's name using this link http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2732/ubuntu_how_to_change_computer_name/    (I changed the two files) and now I'm stuck at the kdm login screen. Whenever I enter my username and password, it loops back to the login window with an empty password. Any help?
[02:14] <Zacarias> I can login via the console, however
[02:30] <DarthFrog> Zacarias: Two files?  What two files?  /etc/hostname is the only one you needed to edit.
[02:34] <Zacarias> DarthFrog: In the commentaries there were several ones advising to change /etc/hosts also. I did it before restarting
[02:36] <DarthFrog> But just hosts and hostname?  That's not what's causing your GUI login problem, I shouldn't think.  However, since you can login at the console, change them back and see if it makes any difference.
[02:37] <Zacarias> DarthFrog: Yes, I don't see why it should. But I'll follow your advice.
[02:40] <CainMadness> I am having a problem getting plasma themes to work. I install them with the built-in theme lists, shows an uninstall button.. But I can't find them in the list to choose from, to change theme. What did I break?
[02:42] <DarthFrog> CainMadness: I don't know but you get to keep both pieces! :-)  Did you log out and log back in again?  I don't know if that makes any difference, though.
[02:43] <CainMadness> I went even so far to restart the netbook.
[02:43] <CainMadness> Still not showing in the list. Puzzling.
[02:46] <Zacarias> DarthFrog: Iloged in with the console. I tried to run sudo gedit /etc/hosts and it tells me "sudo: unable to resolve host My Computer's Name"
[03:00] <d1v4d> test
[03:15] <DarthFrog> Zacarias: Try booting into recovery mode and do it there.
[03:16] <DarthFrog> Zacarias:  Or boot from a LiveCD,  mount your systems root partition in the live environment and then edit the file.
[03:16] <Zacarias> DarthFrog: I was able to open the file with nano instead of gedit. But I don't know what to do with it now
[03:17] <DarthFrog> Change it such that the name in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts (for 127.0.0.1) are the same.
[03:19] <DarthFrog> You don't need to have your hostname in /etc/hosts. "127.0.0.1 localhost" is perfectly acceptable.
[03:23] <Zacarias> DarthFrog: ok, I'll try that
[03:30] <Zacarias> DarthFrog: I deleted all the mentions to my hostname in /etc/hosts  But I keep having the same problem. Login screen, then some visual noise in the screen, then the login again
[03:32] <DarthFrog> Zacarias:  Your hostname is set in /etc/hostname.  Somewhere, there is a misconfiguration.  Change that name back to exactly what it was before.
[03:33] <Zacarias> DarthFrog: yes, I'll try that too
[03:41] <Zacarias> DarthFrog: Yes, that solved the problem. Is there a rule for creating hostname's? I have a hostname with two words like this "myname-xubuntu" (I was using Xubuntu before), and I tried to change ut to "Myname Ubuntu". What was the problem, do you know?
[03:42] <DarthFrog> Zacarias: You can name your computer anything you want, in one word.  But I would presume that you introduced a conflict by changing the name by hand.
[03:43] <DarthFrog> You could try "sudo hostname <new name>", which is a better way to do it.
[03:44] <Zacarias> DarthFrog: Or by the fact that there where two separate words, maybe? Anyway, thanks for your help!
[03:44] <DarthFrog> Two words?  I would think that might have caused the problem.
[03:46] <Zacarias> DarthFrog: Yes, the name I tried was "Carlos Ubuntu" (Carlos is my name, of course).
[03:46] <DarthFrog> Hmm, it seems that the hostname command doesn't make a permanent change and that editing /etc/hostname by hand is the way to do it. :-)  "man hostname" for details.
[03:46] <DarthFrog> Zacarias: Try "Carlos_Ubuntu"
[03:46] <Zacarias> DarthFrog: Ok!
[03:46] <Zacarias> DarthFrog: I'll try that.
[03:48] <DarthFrog> Are we having FloodBot wars???
[03:49] <Zacarias> It seems so! LOL
[03:56] <hate_> need help muon keeps crashing and i am still really  new to linux ... need help
[06:07] <daniel1> "explorer" just died in kde. I'm not sure how to relaunch it
[06:07] <daniel1> anyone?
[06:50] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[06:53] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[10:47] <ralf_> hi
[10:47] <ralf_> i've got a question, i'm developing a qt based media and game library
[10:47] <ralf_> i'm looking for a way to list the installed games
[10:48] <ralf_> or list installed packages from the 'games and amusement' category
[10:49] <ralf_> i have some less than ideal ideas such as parsing the system menu
[10:49] <ralf_> is there a better way?
[10:50] <ts2> ralf_: use the apt/dpkg database, if you're only interested in Debian/Ubuntu based distros
[10:51] <ts2> QApt is the library that things like muon use to interface with dpkg/apt -> https://launchpad.net/qapt
[10:55] <ralf_> thanks for the tip but I don't think I would be able to make use of that since I use Lua
[10:55] <ralf_> and lqt as the qt binding
[10:58] <ralf_> i can use dpkg --get-selections to list the installed packages
[10:58] <ralf_> i just need to set a 'games' filter
[10:58] <ts2> yeah, your best bet is to use popen dpkg
[10:59] <ralf_> or use qprocess and read the input
[10:59] <ts2> qprocess does popen ;)
[11:00] <ralf_> ok then how to filter the dpkg output to categories
[11:00] <ralf_> reading the man page atm
[11:02] <ts2> ralf_: maybe just parsing /var/lib/dpkg/status will help
[11:07] <ralf_> ok thanks, that might be useful
[11:07] <ralf_> another question
[11:07] <ralf_> i would like to install a global shortcut for my app
[11:08] <ts2> you need to create a .desktop file for your app, and place it in /usr/share/applications
[11:09] <ts2> the format is INI style, you mostly just need an Type, Exec, and Name entry, then it should appear in the menu
[11:09] <ralf_> but officially, as in add a KDE component  in System Settings > Global Keyboard Shortcuts, and then list the shortcuts in there
[11:10] <ralf_> ok let's see
[11:10] <ts2> oh, a keyboard shortcut
[11:11] <ts2> that's a little different
[11:11] <ts2> to use the KDE shortcut system, you need a KDE application (using the KDE libraries), but Qt allows for global shortcuts as far as I know
[11:12] <ralf_> the .desktop info is useful too, thanks for that
[11:14] <ralf_> actually i could iterate over all the desktop shortcuts for installed games, answers my first question ;)
[11:14] <ralf_> but afaik qt does not support global shortcuts
[11:16] <ts2> I've never really tried to create a global shortcut, usually I'm only interested in shortcuts when my app has focus
[11:21] <ralf_> i'd like to assign the media control buttons
[11:21] <ralf_> y'know, play, next, previous, volume control etc
[11:21] <ralf_> purpose of those is somewhat defeated if you need to focus the player first
[11:21] <ts2> you probably need to use the KDE libs, or X directly for that
[11:22] <ts2> KDE has a daemon that listens for all events and passes them along to the app
[11:22] <ralf_> dbus?
[11:22] <ts2> via dbus, yes
[11:24] <ralf_> i noticed you can import keyboard shortcut schemes in global shortcut settings
[11:24] <ralf_> so maybe I could just create a file and then import that
[11:25] <ts2> the thing is, KDE would have no way to inform your application that the shortcut was activated unless it was registered with the KDE system (at least, that's how I understand it)
[11:28] <ralf_> i'm looking at an exported kksrc file
[11:28] <ralf_> for example
[11:28] <ralf_> [yakuake][Global Shortcuts]
[11:28] <ralf_> toggle-window-state=F12
[11:29] <ralf_> maybe the first field would be the window class
[11:29] <ralf_> the second row the function in the app to call
[11:29] <ralf_> then the last field the key
[11:29] <ralf_> but that's probably wishful thinking
[11:30] <ts2> I doubt there is a system to directly call methods in a foreign application
[11:34] <ralf_> ok, last question for now
[11:34] <ralf_> you've been helpful so far, thx :)
[11:35] <ralf_> i would like to trigger a function when a usb device is connected
[11:35] <ralf_> through qt if possible
[11:36] <ts2> ralf_: that's not really possible in plain Qt, though you could probably do it with QtDBus and listen for signals from the system bus
[11:37] <ralf_> ok, i do not have the qtdbus library anyway
[11:37] <ralf_> so forget about that for now
[11:38] <ts2> there is also the Qt Mobility API, but that's a separate set of libraries build on Qt
[11:39] <ralf_> i'm restricted to the libs lqt offers me
[11:41] <PadurKaril> HI
[11:43] <ralf_> maybe another tiny question
[11:43] <ralf_> in my app, i need to browse for an executable
[11:44] <ralf_> I can check whether the file is executable, but not whether it is the one i'm looking for
[11:45] <ralf_> so i would need to look into the file and get stuff such as the description and version
[11:45] <ralf_> so i'm looking at some ELF documentation
[11:45] <ralf_> and commands such as 'file' and 'strings'
[11:46] <ralf_> but i don't think they do what i want
[12:58] <princess> join #ubuntu-fr-offtopic
[13:36] <Kottizen> Hello, when following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/F5D7000 I was told to 'sudo ndiswrapper -hotplug'. However, that parameter does not exist any more. What should I do?
[13:42] <Peace-> !ndiswrapper | Kottizen
[13:52] <ChaosR> Hi, for some reason plasma has been often crashing randomly for me for the past few days, anybody knows why? I think it started after installing some updates
[13:55] <spartan977> hallo people!
[13:57] <spartan977> I notice some video artifact when i run dolphin. Can someone tell me why and how to correct this issue?
[14:05] <spartan977> When i call dolphin, where should be the toolbar i see an artifact, often as a white background with a lof of back dots and dashes. This for a couple of second or till dolphin is loaded.
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:43] <dbc254> To anyone listening. I'm on a motorcycle forum. Daily email with the entries for that day. Used to be, I could click on one title and it would drop down to that entry in the email update. Now it doesn't. What happened?
[15:44] <ste>  aiuto come faccio a registrarmi grazie
[15:57] <Peace-> apachelogger: ping
[16:01] <savio> hello
[16:07] <BluesKaj> hello savio
[16:08] <savio> hi BlueKaj
[16:09] <BluesKaj> just letting you know there are ppl here who are awake :)
[16:09] <savio> hahaha
[16:10] <savio> thx
[16:10] <savio> help?
[16:11] <BluesKaj> just ask
[16:11] <savio> my ubuntu don't have brcm80211 driver
[16:11] <savio> where would i get this?
[16:11] <BluesKaj> !broadcom
[16:12] <BluesKaj> oops not the right one
[16:12] <savio> i also check kernel source
[16:12] <savio> download from linux-next
[16:15] <BluesKaj> savio,  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless
[16:43] <daniele> hi all
[16:45] <lethu> hello, daniele
[16:45] <BluesKaj> hi  daniele
[16:47] <daniele> hi is the first time i use IRc, i'm a little bit confused :)
[16:51] <pardo> Hola
[16:51] <pardo> Hello everyone
[16:53] <BluesKaj> hi pardo
[16:53] <pardo> hi BluesKaj
[16:54] <pardo> I need help with a trouble in my kubuntu
[16:55] <pardo> Could you help me, please.
[16:58] <BluesKaj> pardo,  describe your problem with as much detail as possible
[16:59] <apachelogger> Peace-: pong
[17:01] <pardo> I have a problem installing programs on my pc. Every time I try to install one, for example LibreOffice, I get an error with the sudo command.
[17:04] <daniele> i think you should write down what that error is
[17:06] <pardo> ok, let me a moment. I show you in a few seconds
[17:08] <daniele> If you has never touched the /etc/sudoers and similar files. the problem is usually quite simple
[17:10] <daniele> ps: "has never touched" is correct??  i'm not english :D
[17:13] <pardo> Do you talk spanish, Daniele?
[17:15] <hansg01> please help me make kubuntu resemble ubuntu in keyboard shorcuts
[17:15] <hansg01> how to assign the keyboard shortcut of konsole to that of the terminal ctrl+alt+t?
[17:16] <daniele> no pardo, i'm italian
[17:16] <pardo> ok, no problem.
[17:16] <BluesKaj> pardo,  libreoffice updates are broken at the moment due to a bug , so it's probly just that app that's a problem.
[17:16] <daniele> exactly sicily, but we're not as the godfather shows you man :D we're mostly great people
[17:17] <pardo> ok, read this please: The problem is that to install LibreOffice, I must first uninstall OpenOffice. So first try to uninstall Openoffice with this line of code: sudo apt-get purge openoffice. For console but when I enter my password and I enter, it shows me this error: Violation of the segment.
[17:18] <BluesKaj> pardo, keep open office for now , libreoffice is broken
[17:18] <pardo> it's so bad.
[17:18] <BluesKaj> yes
[17:19] <BluesKaj> pardo,  . wait for a week or so until the problem is fixed
[17:20] <pardo> very funny Daniele :D i think you are great people. The godfather is only a stereotype.
[17:21] <daniele> the error is very strange
[17:21] <pardo> thanks BluesKaj, I'll be watching :)
[17:21] <daniele> it happens with any program you try to uninstall?
[17:22] <pardo> I try uninstal only this.
[17:24] <BluesKaj> daniele,  the libreoffice is partly installed but it can't finish installing due to the broken dependencies some other apps also require . You can try purging the partly installe libre office manually by purging but I doubt that it will work
[17:24] <BluesKaj> pardo ^
[17:25] <BluesKaj> sorry daniele , that was meant for pardo
[17:25] <pardo> But, in general, when i try install other one, it show me the same error.
[17:25] <daniele> yeah, i got it BlueSkaj,  and i think you're right
[17:26] <BluesKaj> yes , see my expalnaton above , it blocks other installs
[17:26] <BluesKaj> pardo,  can you purge libreoffice ?
[17:27] <RocknRolla> hey i have to register m nick name "savio"
[17:27] <RocknRolla> can some1 drop it pls
[17:27] <BluesKaj> !register
[17:27] <pardo> but, i haven't install Libreoffice.
[17:28] <pardo> I want install LibreOffice but before I have to uninstall OpenOffice.
[17:28] <pardo> And i can't purge OpenOffice.
[17:29] <BluesKaj> pardo,  it's partially installed if it's depenedencies are blocking other apps from installing
[17:29] <pardo> i see.
[17:29] <savio> who is using nick name savio?
[17:30] <hansg01> kubuntu graphics changed a lot
[17:30] <pardo> in this case. must I purge LibreOffice?
[17:30] <BluesKaj> yes
[17:30] <pardo> ok
[17:31] <pardo> let a moment please.
[17:31] <pardo> let me***
[17:31] <BluesKaj> pardo,  it might not be possible
[17:31] <hansg01> what to do windows switcher not there cubic workspace switcher not there
[17:32] <pardo> so, what i can do?
[17:32] <BluesKaj> did you try
[17:33] <pardo> yes BluesKaj, and show me the same error.
[17:35] <BluesKaj> pardo,  try , sudo apt-get -f install
[17:36] <BluesKaj> hansg01,  open system settings >desktop effects
[17:37] <hansg01> Blueskaj yeah done next?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> enable dsktop effects , look at your options there
[17:38] <wesker> Hello=)
[17:38] <pardo> not work BluesKaj
[17:39] <BluesKaj> pardo,  ok , sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:41] <wesker> Friends tell me, can be a problem when upgrading from Kubuntu 11.04 to 11.10?
[17:41] <pardo> ok BluesKaj, I run the code and it works.
[17:41] <pardo> Thanks
[17:42] <BluesKaj> wesker,  it shouldn't be a problem , 11.10 is quite stable
[17:42] <BluesKaj> pardo,  glad to to hear it :)
[17:42] <wesker> Thanks
[17:43] <BluesKaj> wesker,  your friends are running kubntu 11.04 ?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> perhaps ubuntu 11.10 might be a problem , but not kubuntu , wesker
[17:44] <daniele> no it isn't
[17:45] <BluesKaj> daniele,   the unity desktop is for some ppl whose hardware can't handle the GUI
[17:45] <pardo> Other question BleasKaj. Just curiosity. Where are you from?
[17:46] <BluesKaj> pardo,  Canada
[17:47] <BluesKaj> born in Finland , emiograted to Canada when I was just a child
[17:47] <BluesKaj> emigrated
[17:50] <wesker> Unity - a very bad ideya.Gnome 3 - full horror) found KDE 4.7. use with pleasure. I'm sorry. I communicate with you through an interpreter .=)))
[17:51] <Peace-> wesker: welll i just use kde because it can be what you want
[17:51] <Peace-> xD
[17:51] <Peace-> BluesKaj: xD
[17:52] <BluesKaj> Peace-,  :>)
[17:52] <wesker> =)
[17:52] <Peace-> wesker: you wanna see the pure horror ?!
[17:53] <BluesKaj> ok , have to do some errands, BBL ..I leave you in Peace-'s capable hands :)
[17:53] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :)
[17:53] <Peace-> wesker: see this wesker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzEty1TYAE see this
[17:55] <pardo> Ok people, i see you later.
[17:55] <pardo> It was a pleasure having read.
[17:57] <DaveWM> I'm having a bit of a problem here.  Trying to get skype setup for my mom,  every time I go to System Settings,  Multimedia,  Phonon,
[17:57] <DaveWM> audo capture...  I try to move the preferred device up
[17:58] <DaveWM> I click apply and when I leave and come back to it,  its back the way it was
[17:58] <DaveWM> sorry,   keep hitting enter on accident.  :/
[17:59] <DaveWM> in other words phonon doesnt appear to be saving the order of my preferred devices
[18:00] <DaveWM> I even ran the system settings thing with sudo and tried that way,  still no luck
[18:13] <wesker> How to patch KDE2 under FreeBSD? xD
[18:14] <mozzy> is there a fix for muon center?
[18:15] <mozzy> ill try update and upgrade again today, hasnt fixed it
[18:19] <mozzy> last update broke muon :(
[18:20] <mozzy> and fixs for muon or other package manager recomendations?
[18:20] <mozzy> any*
[18:20] <mozzy> ty
[18:22] <mozzy> had to run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:22] <mozzy> when it asked me to
[18:22] <mozzy> i ran it and let it fix
[18:22] <mozzy> then retried updates to fix muon in terminal
[18:22] <mozzy> it said 0 new updates
[18:23] <mozzy> like i was upto date even tho dpkg hung badly during updates the first round
[18:23] <mozzy> any help would be appreciated, ty in advance
[18:27] <mozzy> seraching forum for recomendations...
[18:28] <mozzy> seen this issue on 3 kubuntu PCs so far
[18:29] <mozzy> "Executable: muon-installer PID: 1820 Signal: Segmentation fault (11)"
[18:29] <mozzy> should i just try to update muon alone...in terminal?
[18:31] <mozzy> sudo apt=get muon-installer ?
[18:31] <mozzy> sudo apt-get muon-installer
[18:32] <mozzy> can anyone plxz advise me, do i need to remove muon center before i reinstall
[18:33] <mozzy>    -.-
[18:33] <mozzy> met with silence,,,
[18:34] <BarkingFish> mozzy: first of all,  please don't use enter as a punctuation mark :)  You can type two or three lines without flooding safely :)
[18:34] <mozzy> oh gosh
[18:34] <mozzy> lol
[18:34] <mozzy> ok then, ill try to keep it all to one line and condense
[18:35] <BarkingFish> anyhow, try to reinstall muon-installer - you can use this command:  sudo apt-get install muon-installer --reinstall
[18:36] <mozzy> deal, ty
[18:36] <mozzy> i was missing the --reinstall part, ill add it to my notes ty
[18:36] <BarkingFish> if you can't get it to work, there are other graphic package managers within kubuntu, which are nicer than muon anyway! :)
[18:36]  * BarkingFish is biased, but likes apper
[18:36] <mozzy> oh ya!?!
[18:36] <mozzy> :)
[18:37] <mozzy> thought there might be
[18:38] <BarkingFish> hi again wesker__ - I saw your post up above. We don't deal with KDE2 or with FreeBSD here - if you have questions about KDE, they go in #kde - FreeBSD questions in ##freebsd :)
[18:40] <mozzy> invalid operation, I tryed sudo apt-get muon-installer(andinstaller) --reinstall
[18:40] <mozzy> brb
[18:40] <BarkingFish> ok
[18:41] <BarkingFish> that's cause I gave you the command the wrong way round, mozzy - sorry :)
[18:41] <BarkingFish> It should be: sudo apt-get install --reinstall muon-installer
[18:54] <utente> is there a boot option like this "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" however for HD or partitions?
[18:56] <utente> anyone home?
[19:02] <mozzy> ty BarkingFish the command worked and reinstalled muon perfectly, unfortunatly the error remains
[19:03] <mozzy> "Executable: muon-installer PID: 1820 Signal: Segmentation fault (11)"
[19:03] <BarkingFish> hm
[19:03] <mozzy> a lib perhaps?
[19:03] <BarkingFish> are you able to use any of the other gui package managers?
[19:03] <mozzy> now its PID 1919
[19:03] <BarkingFish> possibly. which version of kubuntu are you on
[19:03] <mozzy> 11.10
[19:03] <mozzy> fresh install
[19:04] <mozzy> ran all updates and dpkg hung
[19:04] <mozzy> had to do a dpkg --configure -a for it to sort itself out
[19:04] <BarkingFish> mozzy: try using apper and see how you get on
[19:04] <BarkingFish> and I'll look into muon-installer and see what the heck is going on
[19:05] <mozzy> ok, whats the terminal command
[19:05] <mozzy> TY
[19:05] <mozzy> its happened on 3 PCs now, that i know of
[19:05] <BluesKaj> I wish the devs would issue a bug about muon , this is becoming a pita , and it hasn't been stable since it's inception
[19:06] <mozzy> updates can be killers on any operating system
[19:06] <BarkingFish> mozzy: if you're in a GUI, just press ALT + F2 and type apper, hit enter and it will go from there
[19:06] <mozzy> more testing is required
[19:06] <mozzy> ok
[19:06] <BluesKaj> mozzy,  forget muon , use apper or apt-get in the terminal
[19:06] <BarkingFish> I say we send this back to upstream, BluesKaj - muon is not good.
[19:07] <BarkingFish> let me have a work in the dev channel
[19:07] <BarkingFish> *word
[19:07] <mozzy> ok, no luck with apper run command
[19:07] <mozzy> must not be installed
[19:07] <mozzy> TY
[19:07] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish,  they're aware of it upstream I'm sure , the dam thing has never worked from the get-go
[19:08] <mozzy> think ill need to do up apper via terminal
[19:09] <BluesKaj> hmm, apper doesn't seem to be listed in kmenu>apps>system
[19:09] <BarkingFish> mozzy: sudo apt-get install apper
[19:09] <mozzy> will do barkingfish ty
[19:10] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj: I have it right at the top of the K button, System - Apper (Software Management)
[19:11] <BarkingFish> i gotta go out guys, be back in about 50 mins or so.
[19:11] <mozzy> ok
[19:11] <mozzy> cya later, thx again
[19:11] <BarkingFish> np
[19:11] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish,  I probly removed it a while back in one of my cleanup apps ai never use moods :)
[19:12] <mozzy> ahhh, apper is nice :)
[19:12] <mozzy> going to test install a few things, see how it reacts
[19:13] <BluesKaj> dumped all the relevant dirs and folders for akonadi , now I'm about to do the same for nepomuk . usr/bin, usr/lib, usr/share etc
[19:18] <ubuntu> Hello :)
[19:18] <mozzy> hi
[19:19] <mozzy> installin Midori Web Borwser :D
[19:19] <mozzy> light and fast
[19:19] <ubuntu> just checking out this Quassel irc
[19:19] <ubuntu> never heard of midori
[19:20] <ubuntu> hahaha - look at the nick I got :)
[19:20] <mozzy> apper worked good
[19:20] <mozzy> SUCCESS
[19:20] <mozzy> c[_]
[19:20] <mozzy> midori is nice, uses webkit engine
[19:20] <mozzy> same as safari
[19:21] <ubuntu> hmmm
[19:21] <mozzy> its extremly fast and light
[19:21] <wesker_> Well, why do you need the browser?))) is better than opera)
[19:21] <mozzy> itd good to have more then 1 :P
[19:21] <wesker_> or firefox=)
[19:21] <mozzy> Firefox is my main browser
[19:21] <mozzy> since 2004
[19:22] <mozzy> :)
[19:22] <mozzy> hence my nickname..mozzy
[19:22] <ubuntu> just got a new dell precision m4600 - 16 Gb and ssd :). Just playing around on it now - running kubuntu live cd
[19:22] <mozzy> very nice
[19:22] <wesker_> IE for linux =))))))))))))
[19:22] <mozzy> haa
[19:22] <mozzy> sadly it can be done
[19:22] <mozzy> :P
[19:23] <mozzy> winetricks
[19:23] <ubuntu> yeah, you can probably skin windows to look like linux too
[19:23] <ubuntu> hahahahahahahahhahaha
[19:24] <PadeTezafair> guys!
[19:24] <PadeTezafair> lol
[19:24] <ubuntu> hey Ppade
[19:24] <PadeTezafair> n00b problem
[19:24] <wesker_> hmmmIt was then, and come the end of the world =)))
[19:24] <PadeTezafair> lol
[19:24] <PadeTezafair> i've juste install Kubuntu
[19:24] <PadeTezafair> There's usually a 'Taskbar' on the bottom...
[19:25] <mozzy> cool, use apper package manager for now, the updates kill muon
[19:25] <ubuntu> OK, I have a question --- I wanna run linux but I want it to look like windows and act like windows. What dist should I use :)
[19:25] <PadeTezafair> I've deleted it :S ... don't find how to reactive it :S
[19:25] <mozzy> any good kde distro
[19:25] <ubuntu> It has to be EXACTLY like windows, but free
[19:25] <PadeTezafair> ubuntu, install Windows dude
[19:25] <wesker_> in KDE 5 IE will be installed by default))
[19:26] <mozzy> Kubuntu 11.10, Mint 12(install kde)
[19:26] <ubuntu> wow !!!!! Great idea - thanx
[19:26] <mozzy> Mint 12 has a kde version theyre working on
[19:26] <mozzy> its currently an RC
[19:26] <wesker_> ohh..
[19:26] <ubuntu> that was not meant to be a factual statement ;P
[19:26] <Snowhog> ubuntu: Not gonna find such.
[19:27] <mozzy> well guess you got me that time :P
[19:27] <Snowhog> ubuntu: For a Linux to work EXACTLY like Windows, it would have to crash - often. :)
[19:27] <ubuntu> got me some screen flicker on this ne machine :(
[19:28] <mozzy> setup fake bluescreen screensavor to trigger every 5 min :)
[19:28] <PadeTezafair> guys... I've deleted the taskbar on the bottom of Kubuntu 11.10 ... How can I re-add it ???
[19:28] <wesker_> As far as I saw on the internet, there are issues but they unfortunately for gnome.
[19:28] <ubuntu> I got a windows emulator out in the alley next to the garage
[19:28] <mozzy> give it that windows feel lol
[19:28] <Saito05> kubuntu 11.10 tiene muchos errores :(
[19:28] <wesker_> Windows blatantly copied KDE =))
[19:28] <ubuntu> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[19:29] <mozzy> add the default panel again
[19:29] <Saito05> alguien que hable español?
[19:29] <ubuntu> hows unbunto 11.10 or one of the 11.04s ?
[19:29] <Snowhog> !sp | Saito05
[19:29] <mozzy> might need to drag all the widgets back in, main menu kicker, task twitcher etc
[19:30] <mozzy> @Pade
[19:30] <Snowhog> !sp Saito05
[19:30] <Saito05> Kubuntu 11.04 es mas estable que 11.10, a que se debe eso?
[19:30] <Snowhog> Hmm. I never remember the syntax for that.
[19:31] <mozzy> english please
[19:31] <mozzy> no hable mucho espanol
[19:31] <mozzy> hablo*
[19:31] <wesker_> People. when will the release of Ubuntu 12?
[19:32] <mechasr> think I'll go try me another distro
[19:33] <mechasr> this quassel irc is kinda nice
[19:33] <mechasr> see ya
[19:35] <mozzy> cya
[19:36] <wesker_> ?
[19:36] <wesker_> =)
[19:42] <wesker_> saito05 lo siento por mi ignorancia de la lengua. Por experiencia puedo decir que cuanto más estable que el 11.04 11.10 11.10 En repetidas ocasiones he observado heladas. y reinicios inesperados. + inhibe bastante fuerte
[19:43] <Snowhog> !es | wesker_
[19:43] <klgu> hello, not because it has misconfigured the keyboard language use kubuntu 11.10 did not touch anything, is going well with any failure upgrade? As I can grow to be fine? thanks
[19:44] <Snowhog> FloodBotK3: klgu is a bot?
[19:45] <klgu> que va
[19:45] <klgu> im not a bot
[19:46] <Snowhog> klgu: :)  Your first message was, well, 'odd'. sorry
[19:47] <klgu> Snowhog, sorry if I use a translator, not much English but I need the help thanks. It literally translates this sorry
[19:47] <Snowhog> klgu: What is your native language?
[19:48] <klgu> spanish
[19:48] <Snowhog> !es | klgu
[19:49] <wesker_> interesting), I also use a translator =) imagine what the text twice driven out through google?)))
[19:50] <klgu> Snowhog, not many people on that channel would not know me as the response of the keyboard is misconfigured
[19:53] <wesker_> klgu Put on another way to enter in the settings klaviatury.esli I understand the question
[19:53] <wesker_> sorry. keyboard
[19:54] <wesker_> Put on another way to enter in the settings of the keyboard. If I understand the question
[19:54] <klgu> klaviatury.esli  ?
[19:55] <wesker_> sorry.i use google translate=))
[19:56] <klgu> how I can reconfigure the keyboard to my language?
[19:57] <wesker_> system is localized to your language?
[19:59] <wesker_> ??
[20:01] <wesker_> Klgu?
[20:05] <Viktorious> Quick question, I'm running out of space on a virtual installation, so I create a new virtual hard drive so I can move /home over to that harddrive. I only have the following question:
[20:06] <Viktorious> If I set the mount point of say /dev/sdb1 as /home, and edit my fstab then it should work right? But then what happens when the system mounts my other hard drive, which has "/" as a mount point??
[20:06] <Viktorious> Since /home would be a part of "/" anyway?
[20:06] <daneshar> i am using a wi-fi dongle. its asking for network name in hidden network . what to give the name ????
[20:12] <BarkingFish> daneshar: you can only connect to a hidden wifi network if you know the SSID it uses to broadcast
[20:12] <BarkingFish> if you don't know the name of the network, you're stuck. Ask whoever administers the network, assuming you're supposed to have access to it :)
[20:13] <daneshar> how i can do that ?
[20:15] <BarkingFish> all networks have a name to broadcast under - some hide the name so that only authorised persons can connect to it - they'd be given the details by the owner of the network.  If there's a hidden network, and you don't know its name, the chances are you're not meant to be on it.  If you are, speak to whoever owns or runs the network.
[20:15] <klgu> wesker_, yes my system is on my language
[20:17] <daneshar> how to scan that ?
[20:18] <klgu> wesker_, thanks for your help I have to go see if I fix it later. to another bye
[20:19] <wesker_> Good luck
[20:20] <BarkingFish> daneshar: You can't scan for the name of a hidden network. That's the whole reason it's hidden :P
[20:21] <daneshar> then how to connect other network ?
[20:22] <wesker_> all the secret actually is clearly =)))
[20:23] <wesker_> <daneshar Network manager installed?
[20:23] <Snowhog> daneshar: If there isn't another "unhidden" network in the scan, then you can't.
[20:23] <BarkingFish> daneshar: if you're using network manager, it should show a list of networks which are available.  if there's one in the list you have permission to access, like a public wifi, click it and you'll be asked for its password if it has one.  enter the password and wait, and you'll get connected
[20:23] <BarkingFish> if there is nothing else in that list, no wifi networks other than a hidden one are available
[20:24] <daneshar> thanks buddy now i understand !
[20:26] <wesker_> are you sure that you are an access point?
[20:29] <mozzy> hi BarkingFish
[20:29] <mozzy> apper is very nice thx
[20:29] <mozzy> installed midori just find
[20:29] <mozzy> fine*
[20:30] <mozzy> going to redirect the other 2 kubuntu users that have an issue with muon to apper \o/
[20:32] <BarkingFish> hi mozzy - very pleased to hear you're getting on ok with it, I saw muon once and couldn't get the hang of it, gave up on it.  I'm used to apper's interface, since it's almost identical to what I started on, kpackagekit
[20:33] <mozzy> oh ok
[20:33] <mozzy> im useto using synaptic myself on PCLInuxOS
[20:34] <mozzy> even tho its kinda ugly, non noober friendly and ancient lol
[20:34] <mozzy> ;)
[20:35] <mozzy> its good to have a rpm and a debian based distros goin
[20:37] <wesker_> So ... Sleep today, I did not lay)))
[20:38] <mozzy> youve made me realise im in too much of a rush to press enter lol
[20:38] <wesker_> xD
[20:40] <wesker_> friends tell me, who now plays in that? work, work .... also wants to play
[20:43] <javaholic5> Hey guys, I have deployed two questionnaires and would appreciate it if you could take about 3 minutes of your time to complete any one of them.
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[20:43] <FloodBotK3> javaholic5: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:45] <wesker_> and there flooders...
[20:47] <javaholic5> yes, just got the warning msg, sorry
[20:49] <wesker_> that's good)
[20:57] <wesker_>  I go to bed) bye =)))
[21:37] <josm> Hi, im having issues with my sources.list. Trying to add only php5 packages from dotdeb but its unable to find Packages.gz.
[21:51] <Snowhog> josm: What is the entry you have in sources.list for dotdeb?
[21:51] <josm> deb http://packages.dotdeb.org stable php5
[21:52] <Snowhog> josm: That isn't correct. What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[21:53] <josm> Snowhog: Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS
[21:53] <josm> The syntax might be wrong, but it should at least be the same for all ubuntu/debian servers
[21:58] <Snowhog> josm: See http://www.dotdeb.org/instructions/ for instructions on adding the entry for your sources.list as well as getting the gpg key.
[21:59] <josm> Snowhog: yes i did that initially. Problem is, I dont want to use the other packages, like mysql, from dotdeb
[21:59] <josm> Snowhog: I just want to use php5 and nginx
[22:00] <josm> And I must use the sources.list, since im gona do the same on several machines. automatic distribution of sources.list via puppet
[22:01] <josm> And for what I can find in man sources.list, its supposed to work the way I think. Perhaps *if* there is an packages.gz in the php5 directory?
[22:06] <josm> Snowhog: thanks for looking into it
[22:08] <Snowhog> josm: Try changing the entry to this:  deb http://packages.dotdeb.org/dists/ stable php5
[22:09] <josm> Snowhog: Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[22:09] <josm> :(
[22:12] <josm> it says dists/dists actualy
[22:20] <Snowhog> josm: I don't think you are going to be able to do what you want - limit to php5 package only. The Packages.gz files are only in the ../dist/stable/all/binary-* directories.
[22:22] <josm> perhaps. But how do one control which repos, specific packages should be fetched from?
[22:23] <josm> was reading about apt-pinning, but i have always thought it were to hold a package at a version
[22:23] <josm> not control repo
[22:25] <josm> Default is to install the package with highest version number. And I dont want mysql to be updated from a less stable repository
[22:28] <josm> man apt_preferences
[22:32] <mozzy> hi all
[22:32] <mozzy> jjust spent 20-30 making a new condensed homescreen on my droid tablet, it was worth it \o/
[22:33] <mozzy> would it be ok if i post a mediafire screenshot url?
[22:38] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[22:38] <mozzy> woah bigtime netsplit
[22:40] <josm> mozzy: i would like to se
[22:40] <josm> e
[22:40] <mozzy> :)
[22:40] <mozzy> ok
[22:40] <mozzy> http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=399apdiwcdig6cs&thumb=6
[22:40] <mozzy> hope i dont get kicked for posting a link
[22:40] <mozzy> its orange sunset go launcher ex theme on a kindle fire
[22:41] <mozzy> condensed everything into on master homescreen
[22:41] <mozzy> :)
[22:41] <mozzy> one*
[22:42] <josm> funky
[22:43] <mozzy> useto have 7 or 8 homescreens
[22:43] <mozzy> "workspaces"
[22:45] <josm> ok.
[23:38] <wesker_> So I slept), I with you again