[10:40]  * bkerensa waves
[10:49] <nieko_nera> hello
[10:51] <nieko_nera> i intalled google chrome, and want to uninstall chromium, but then i try uninstall chromium it wants to install firefox
[10:51] <nieko_nera> i don't want firefox
[11:13] <nieko_nera> found my answer, you need uninstall chromium with this command
[11:13] <nieko_nera> sudo apt-get --purge remove chromium-browser firefox epiphany-browser midori dolphin konqueror
[11:14] <bkerensa> :)
[11:23] <Abbevik> Hello, I'm trying to activate lubuntu-desktop to be my default desktop environment on my Ubuntu 11.10 installment, but it keeps going back to gnome/unity every time I reboot. Do you have any pointers? Thanks
[11:27] <Abbevik> I think I found an answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/62833/how-do-i-change-the-default-session-for-when-using-auto-logins
[23:08] <shomon> hi, does anyone know how to get a big cursor in lubuntu, assistive technology stylee?
[23:14] <shomon> no one around I guess :)
[23:15] <wxl> shomon: i betcha phillw knows
[23:16] <wxl> he's our accessibility expert
[23:16] <shomon> ah that's nice... :)
[23:16] <shomon> well I managed to get a package by just installing gnome desktop and waiting a few hours :)
[23:16] <wxl> ugh
[23:16] <shomon> I just don't know which one it is.. so as to avoid that
[23:17] <shomon> anyway, irc is non linear, so I'll stay here for a bit and see if phillw checks in at some point :)
[23:17] <phillw> shomon: I'm not sure if the 'big' arrow is yet available. I know it is on the TODO list.
[23:17] <shomon> hi phillw
[23:17] <shomon> ah, do you know if I can just add it from another package?
[23:18] <shomon> we were thinking you might be able to just hack something in by switching a cursor image.. but I guess there's more to it than that
[23:18] <wxl> i betcha that's possible
[23:18] <wxl> lemme dig
[23:18] <shomon> thanks :)
[23:19] <phillw> ho shomon, you possibly could, but lxappearance is being worked on. could you ask on the mailing list as to if it is yet available, that way you remind the devs & they will reply :)
[23:19] <shomon> that'd be good :)
[23:20] <shomon> could you point me to the mailing list please?
[23:21] <shomon> it'll do wonders for a new lubuntu user with sight problems :)
[23:22] <phillw> shomon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs
[23:22] <shomon> thanks !
[23:22] <phillw> has those details, please also consider joining at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved
[23:22] <wxl> preferences > customize look and feel > mouse cursor tab
[23:22] <wxl> has an option to change it
[23:23] <wxl> let me see if i can find a big cursor
[23:23] <phillw> wxl: is correct, I am an advocate of accessibility being set into lubuntu and it is a part of our dev to enable it more fully.
[23:23] <pederindi> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/big-cursor/3.8
[23:23] <shomon> great :)
[23:24] <wxl> phillw: agreed but i'm looking at it from a support view too actually trying to take care of shomon :)
[23:24] <wxl> year get the tarball there shomon
[23:25] <shomon> so it's just a question of installing that in lubuntu?
[23:25] <pederindi> but I think that doesn't work with 11.04
[23:25] <shomon> ah, I see, it's just a tarball so far sorry
[23:26] <wxl> wow seems to be crashing on that tho
[23:26] <shomon> hmm back in 5 and I'll give it a try
[23:26] <phillw> shomon: wxl https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/Accessibility
[23:27] <phillw> We really do want to do it... just not enough people on dev :(
[23:29] <wxl> wow may have to submit a bug on this
[23:29] <wxl> unless someone else knows another cursor theme?
[23:29] <wxl> i come up with nothing on box look
[23:32] <wxl> there *IS* a "bigcursor" package
[23:32] <pederindi> I'm trying to access lxde.org to get accessibility info but seems to be down
[23:32] <phillw> wxl: with 12.04 there is the ability to import mouse cursor themes, just none yet developed.
[23:33]  * wxl is on 12.04
[23:33] <wxl> i seem to remember that same location in customize look and feel on 11.10 tho
[23:33]  * phillw wonders if AlanBell has been giving a talk on accessibilty on the ubuntu-classroom today? ... oh, he has :)
[23:34] <wxl> brb
[23:34] <AlanBell> it was fun :)
[23:35]  * Silverlion waves at AlanBell
[23:36] <phillw> AlanBell: as lx can import the standard *tar.gz and *tar.bz2 do you know of a theme we can try out?
[23:37] <phillw> AlanBell: I caught the start of it, but I will be reading all the sessions from the logs, they are a mine of information for those who do support :)
[23:38] <AlanBell> theme for what?
[23:39] <wxl> i am in 12.04 so i don't knwo if that changes anything but installing big-cursor worked out just fine tho it did require a logout for it to take effect.
[23:39] <phillw> wxl: care to give instructions & I'll follow them
[23:39] <wxl> it is not a change that happens in openbox as openbox --restart / --reconfigure does not fix it
[23:39] <wxl> phillw:
[23:40] <wxl> 1. sudo apt-get install big-cursor
[23:40] <wxl> 2. put in your password :)
[23:40] <wxl> 3. logout
[23:40] <wxl> 4. log back in
[23:40] <wxl> 5. big cursor!!!!
[23:40] <pederindi> so after logout appear "big-cursor" in "box look" of "customize look and feel"?
[23:41] <wxl> pederindi: no, you'll just end up with big-cursor
[23:41] <wxl> if you look in customize look and feel, there's no apparent change
[23:41] <pederindi> aha, if you want the other cursor you should remove his package
[23:41] <wxl> yeah
[23:41] <wxl> kinda funky
[23:41] <wxl> they should just make it a normal cursor theme
[23:41] <phillw> wxl: fail :(
[23:42] <wxl> phillw: in what way?
[23:43] <phillw> it's okay, I've had a partial update, 12.04 is not a happy bunny atm. it generated a crash report.
[23:43] <wxl> hm
[23:43] <wxl> 12.04 has been pretty much flawless for me
[23:43] <phillw> "Problem already know"
[23:43] <wxl> brb
[23:43] <phillw> *known*
[23:45] <Sillion> hi
[23:46] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha Sillion
[23:46] <Sillion> I ve reinstalled lubuntu via netinstall and i miss some software
[23:47] <MrChrisDruif> Sillion; what commands did you use?
[23:47] <Sillion> what's the name of the disk manager which is used to mount.umount, formating, etc?
[23:47] <MrChrisDruif> Did you install lubuntu-core or lubuntu-desktop?
[23:47] <Sillion> MrChrisDruif, i do not rememeber , what do you mean by command?
[23:47] <Sillion> both i guess
[23:48] <MrChrisDruif> You installed with the netinstall, that is the all command installation right?
[23:48] <MrChrisDruif> Aka mini-ISO?
[23:48] <Sillion> maybe just core.. do not remember it was the 4th or 5th time i was reinstalling :P
[23:48] <Sillion> netinstall
[23:49] <MrChrisDruif> phillw; do you know what a "netinstall" is? I've never done those
[23:49] <wxl> phillw: crash on re-login?
[23:49] <pederindi> netinstall i think is network install
[23:49] <wxl> 'tis
[23:49] <pederindi> so start with core, and download-install from internet ?
[23:49] <Sillion> MrChrisDruif, what i want to know is the name of the diskmanager  to reinstall it
[23:50] <wxl> basically the netinstall disc has next to nothing on it, so all the packages are downloaded at install time rather than copied from the disk
[23:50] <wxl> it's really a matter of semantics
[23:50] <Sillion> that's it wxl
[23:50] <wxl> Sillion: you mean pcmanfm/
[23:50] <Sillion> noi
[23:50] <Sillion> no
[23:50] <pederindi> gparted
[23:50] <Sillion> the soft which is use to format moun, unmount, etc
[23:50] <wxl> oh
[23:50] <wxl> DUH
[23:50] <Sillion> d
[23:51] <phillw> MrChrisDruif: yes, it is an option available via a mini install. you can pull all the files from a local server on your LAN which is a lot faster than using internet, or you can choose internet https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server_and_network_installations
[23:51] <wxl> Sillion: it's not gparted
[23:51] <wxl> (not for lubuntu)
[23:52] <wxl> it's palimpset
[23:52] <Sillion> pederindi, no
[23:52] <Sillion> palimpset ill go and see
[23:52] <wxl> palimpsest
[23:52] <wxl> sorry
[23:52] <wxl> weird name :/
[23:52] <Sillion> ok
[23:52] <pederindi> aa...
[23:53] <wxl> that's default for lubuntu
[23:53] <pederindi> but is a mix of pcman and gparted
[23:53] <pederindi> aha, dependencies
[23:53] <MrChrisDruif> wxl; gnome-disk-utility?
[23:53] <Sillion> yes that it cool
[23:53] <Sillion> thanks
[23:53] <wxl> no not gnome!!!
[23:53] <wxl> darn you and your gnome people!
[23:53] <wxl> :)
[23:53] <wxl> alright i'm getting out of here
[23:54] <wxl> now you guys behave and keep the gnome off of Sillion's system
[23:54] <Sillion> lol
[23:54] <phillw> well, if they want to drag in half of the worlds content of gnome for a simple utility.... we cannot forbid it :)
[23:58] <jmichaelx> so i just installed lubuntu 11.10on an older laptop, and am unable to change the screen resolution correctly... when i change it, the panel is missing, etc... any suggestions?
[23:59] <cousteau> when/if Ubuntu adopts Wayland instead of X, will Lubuntu have to use that too or will it have only Wayland?  If I understood it right, Wayland is for having a more direct way for composition, which I doubt Lubuntu is interested in