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yofel_wth is /sys/fs/cgroup o.O?08:21
Ian_Corneey my clock is gone09:37
Ian_Cornehrmf even after unity --reset09:38
jtaylordid you reinstall datetimeindicator?09:39
Ian_Corneum10:02
Ian_Corneno10:02
Ian_Cornenot that I know10:02
Ian_CorneThe following NEW packages will be installed: indicator-datetime10:02
Ian_Corneok seems like it got eaten up by an update somwehere10:03
jtayloryes unity upgrade killed it if you weren't carefull10:05
jtayloralways read dist-upgrade log carefully10:05
tech2Hi all, I note that dnsmasq has changed where it's reading config from, from /etc/dnsmasq.conf to /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf and wondered if anyone knew much about the change, whether I need to maintain its config differently, etc.?12:46
penguin42tech2: That sounds more like it's being started by network manager which is telling it to use that file12:50
tech2penguin42: ok, that's a great start, and chances are that yes, it is. It seems to be a recent change though (dns wasn't working for me when I last restarted and I had to work out why), so I'm wondering if this is something I need to configure/manage differently, or if I can just copy my old config to /var/run (which seems counterintuitive)12:52
aguitelhow to make autologin in xubuntu 12.04 ?12:53
penguin42tech2: Not sure, I agree it's probably not the right thing to copy it to /var/run12:53
penguin42tech2: If nm is running dns-masq I'd expect you can still run your own instance as well12:54
tech2thanks penguin42, looks like I have more reading to do :/12:55
ebischoffHello all. Precise is being tested here for a while and mostly works great. However, I found something strange today : libreoffice-writer has no icon in KDE's quick launcher. It's really not a problem, but I found it was better to report it. I hope that helps.13:28
aguitelhow to make autologin in xubuntu 12.0413:29
ikoniaebischoff: log a bug, reporting it in an irc channel doesn't do anything13:49
ebischoffhonestly, I don't know whether i will do it, given the success of my previous bug reports (against radeon and kmail). but thanks ikonia.13:51
acer_aspire8930running ubuntu 12.04 but the kernel version still only allows me to boot 3.0.0-13-generic.  I have to manually edit the boot loader to read 3.2.0-8.generic,  I have run sudo grub-update, but nothing seems to change,14:07
jtayloracer_aspire8930: 3.0 an oneiric kernel?14:08
acer_aspire8930yes it is14:08
jtayloryou have grub installed from that so it stays the default14:08
aguiteli have crash report in the panel ,but i cannot read this ,how i read this?14:08
acer_aspire8930I update-manager -d 11.1014:08
jtayloryou ahve to reinstall grub from precise to get it default in the menu14:08
jtaylorhm it might be different in that case14:09
acer_aspire8930how do I reinstall grub for 12.0414:09
jtaylorsudo grub-install /dev/<some-device>14:09
penguin42acer_aspire8930: How is your machine setup - does it just have oneiric updated to precise on it or does it have some bual boot ?14:10
acer_aspire8930ok thanks14:10
acer_aspire893011.10 updated to 12.0414:10
jtaylorthough as always when dealing with grub there is a chance that things get screwed up14:10
jtaylorso to stay safe stick with editing the cfg14:10
acer_aspire8930ok sure will do14:10
acer_aspire8930thanks for the advise14:11
aguiteli have crash report in the panel ,but i cannot read this ,how i read this?14:13
aguitelwhere are the crash report stored ?14:13
penguin42 /var/crash14:15
aguitelpenguin42, thanks14:16
penguin42aguitel: The apport-* commands can unpack and generally fiddle with them14:16
scarleoHi, I'm having some trouble with my broadcom driver in Precise, I have to modprobe wl every startup. Is it a known issue and can it be fixed?14:24
scarleoto clarify: wl is loaded but I need to modprobe -r wl; modprobe wl14:25
aguitelany twitter client for xfce ?14:37
BluesKajHiyas all14:40
CT1Hi.  Apart from bugs bugging things up, will installing precise alpha 1 and up(dating)/(grading) result in the same system when 12.04 is released as if I'd installed 12.04 final?14:44
rigvedhi everyone.14:45
penguin42CT1: In principal, but there can be a few differences14:45
penguin42CT1: For example earlier alphas might decide to install a package that later ones don't need, also there a few things that get fixed in some of the update scripts that might not have been in hte alpha14:46
rigvedi think the zeitgeist daemon is not working on my 12.04. Everytime i type "cal" in the dash search bar, it displays libreoffice calc. Then i select the calculator. So, next time when i type "cal", is should display the calculator as the first result, right?14:48
CT1penguin42: Are those various "things" not upgraded/removed (when I update)? Does it depend on what alpha I originally installed?14:49
CT1penguin42: (bugs asside)14:49
penguin42CT1: I don't think extra packages that were previously installed necessarily get removed, and the other fixes I was thinking of I think end up in the scripts in do-release-upgrade etc - they're fixes for odd things that don't fit well in packages14:50
scarleorigved: Hi, not sure how it's supposed to work but I have that same behaviour in both 12.04 and 11.10. Never had it "learn" anything14:53
CT1penguin42: I'm halfway around the world visiting my brother.  I want to upgrade his (dual boot with win7) Lucid to something that (eventually) will be stable/LTS.  He uses Ubuntu every now and then.  When I leave, I'd like to know that the alpha will be auto-updated/upgraded to the final release.  Would this not be the case?14:54
rigvedscarleo: ah. ok then. actually my 11.10 was also similar. i thought that using the history stored by zeitgeist, the items should get ordered. anyways, thanks! at least now i know that it is the default behaviour.14:55
penguin42CT1: It should upgrade all the packages but as I said there may be a few things not quite the same; also remember that what you have now is an alpha and there may be things horribly broken that could cause problems14:56
CT1penguin42: Thankyou for your advice.  I'll leave Lucid untill my next visit.14:57
penguin42CT1: Yeh probably best bet14:57
dsdaleHi folks. Is anyone else seeing "The permission of the setuid helper is not correct" errors?14:58
anadonhey, how stable is 12.04 now?15:01
anadonlast time I tried, there were x11 issues, and a bad libre-office upgrade15:02
DaekdroomNot stable enough.15:02
jtaylorwell a new X is about to land, so that will start over ^^15:02
anadongood15:03
anadonI'd like to get my hands on a more stable ubuntu15:03
penguin42jtaylor: Oh that should be fun :-)15:03
anadongod knows we've all had more boot-loader issues than anyone cares to count15:03
jtaylorI didn't have any boot issues yet15:04
jtaylorbut sound is borked in the same way as happend last cycle to me :/15:05
jtaylorthere can only be one application emitting sound, when I start two everything mutes15:05
anadongreat fun, right?15:05
penguin42jtaylor: That's almost as if something isn't using pulse15:06
jtaylorno idea15:06
jtaylorlast time it just disappeared after a reinstall15:06
anadonany word on wayland?15:06
jtaylorI should try that again, only takes 10 minutes with eatmydata ;)15:07
penguin42jtaylor: if you have something with sound playing you could look at the file descriptors it has open and see if it has the /dev/snd/* open directly15:07
jtaylorit has15:08
penguin42yeh, I had that problem a few weeks ago - I think it sorted it self out for me, although not tried rebooting yet after this weeks updates15:09
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dsdaleI'm getting errors when I try to upgrade nux-tools: "trying to overwrite '/usr/share/apport/package-hooks/source_nux.py', which is also in package libnux-0.9-common 0.9.48-0ubuntu4". Anyone know a workaround?15:23
jokerdinojust rm it?15:24
chmacClick on the clock, Time & Date Settings > Clock > Time in other locations > Choose Locations... What needs to go in the entries? I'm getting no auto-complete and whatever I try doesn't work.15:31
chmacI'm trying "Sydney", "Sydney/Australia", "UTC+2", none of it's working.15:32
chmacI liked that feature previously, the little map showing daylight hours, the dots for my chosen locations, was very helpful.15:32
penguin42chmac: Can you submit a bug for that, it should help you out15:33
chmacpenguin42: Does it work on your system?15:34
chmacpenguin42: I was going to ask on #ubuntu, see if it works for folks on 11.1015:34
penguin42chmac: If I type I get noauto complete etc - but when I hit return it gives me a list based on what I typed in15:34
chmacBingo, you're right, same here.15:35
penguin42that's not too bad - may be not obvious15:35
chmacpenguin42: It's probably working as expected then, but maybe not as intuitive as it could be, or maybe it's my slow net connection that it takes a while to laod.15:35
chmacs/laod/load15:35
penguin42nod - it's quite nice being able to add that15:36
chmacpenguin42: Can you add Vancouver? Nothing's coming up for me...15:40
chmacIt's definitely not intuitive!15:40
penguin42no, it doesn't show that15:41
penguin42odd15:41
chmacI can't get it to return anything on the west coast of the US / Canada.15:41
chmacLos Angeles, San Francisco, Vancouver, none of them work.15:42
chmacOh well, Portland works15:44
chmacI suppose that'll do... :-)15:44
BluesKajchm I'm in eastern time zone in Canada, but my city doesn't show either ,but Toronto works for me15:51
BluesKajoops , too late15:51
aguitelwhat is the twitter client native from xfce ?17:24
zniavre_there is ?17:27
aguiteli dont know17:28
zniavre_i only know gwibber17:28
zniavre_knows *17:28
aguitelme oo17:28
aguiteltoo17:28
zniavre_:o)17:28
aguitelis razor qt running in 12.04 ?18:07
reberedshift is in my autostart, but it doesn't start with ubuntu, why is that ?18:33
jtaylorwhat happens when you start it in a terminal18:34
rebehttp://pastebin.com/TyyhrhwY18:36
rebewhen I start it manualy (gui version) it's ok18:37
rebeand it was ok with autostart, only recently last couple days, it fails to start18:37
pdqit didn't work for me either when added to startup applications, i found when i added the latitude longitude to the command it worked. it was the geoclue failing18:38
mrdebhi18:38
mrdebis 1204 almost ready to put on a pc18:39
mrdeb?18:39
rebeI'll try that pdg18:39
pdqokie18:42
aguitelis razor qt running in 12.04 ?18:44
mrdebwhat is that18:44
mrdeb?18:46
aguitelhttp://razor-qt.org/18:48
mrdebok18:50
mrdebhi rebe18:56
rebehi18:57
rebepdg you added it to autostart command ?18:59
rebeor in terminal ?18:59
pdqrebe, i added it to the startup applications gui like: redshift -l 49.89:-97.17 -t 6500:550019:00
rebewhat that -t is ?19:00
pdq-t is the daytime:nightime temps19:01
rebeoh, ok19:02
pdqcan check for the options: man redshift19:02
rebeI also have a problem with pidgin autostart, it starts but cannot connect19:02
rebeI have to start it manualy19:02
rebe(Pidgin:2766): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap"19:02
rebehere's what terminal shows19:03
rebepdg, it worked thx :)19:12
pdqnice :]19:12
rebeand with that pidgin it says (waiting for internet conenction) on autostart and it's never ending story, so I guess that pidgin starts before connection is established and than it blocks somehow19:13
pdqthis is in 12.04? yeah sounds like needs delay or something19:14
rebeand way to delay autostart app, so it waits let's say 10 sec ?19:14
rebeany way*19:14
rebePidgin 2.10.0 (libpurple 2.10.0)19:14
rebealso "show system tray" doens't work in pidgin19:16
pdqyou're in 12.04?19:16
imnicholI've got a bug in oneconf that is marked as "invalid" and is not assigned to anyone.  What can I do to get the attention of the right person?19:16
pdqmaybe can try http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7737297&postcount=11 i dont autostart anything but redshift and screen19:16
rebepdg I'm in 11.1019:18
pdqah, if ask in main ubuntu chan prob get better responses19:19
rebeI did lol they told me to ask here :)19:19
pdqoh lol19:19
pdqi use gnome-shell myself so i dunno unity stuffs like their indicators19:20
mrdebok19:20
mrdebwell good luck19:20
rebeI fixed that pidgin :)19:28
rebesh -c "sleep 10 && /usr/bin/pidgin &" delays autostart19:29
pdqkewl19:29
rebethere is no way to enable global menu only when window is maximized in 11.10 ?19:52
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FernandoMiguelevening20:52
FernandoMiguelunity is boarked :(20:53
urlin2uyou have 2d or gnome-shell installed? Have you tweaked conpiz?20:54
urlin2ucompiz*20:54
FernandoMiguelI've tweaked compiz A LOT20:56
FernandoMiguelis the only way I could use Unity :)20:56
urlin2uFernandoMiguel, I have mine tweaked as well in 11.10 though, it has to be done right, and I need a compiz restart at times to get the window headers back.21:02
FernandoMigueleheh21:04
FernandoMiguelunity update wants to remove ubuntu-desktop metapackage21:04
FernandoMiguelbah21:04
urlin2ulol go for it live on the bleeding edge. I know yiou know better just joking.21:05
FernandoMiguelI just don't upgrade such packages till they are read21:08
FernandoMiguel*ready21:08
FernandoMiguelglad I have 11.10 and 12.04 live ISOs set on GRUB2 and ChromeOS installed on disk21:09
mrdebhi, is pangolin ubuntu good enough fo use now22:33
mrdebwho knowsthis22:34
pangolinnot yet22:35
mrdebwow ok22:35
mrdebwell but 1204 will be here tsoon, so which is better to instaln now22:35
mrdebhmm?22:36
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osmosisWill Pangolin use Python3 by default?23:18
jtaylorno23:20
jtaylorthats insane23:20
jtaylorif you mean python = python323:21
osmosiswill python3 ever be default?23:21
jtaylorin many years perhaps23:21

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