=== grawch is now known as grawcho_ [08:21] wth is /sys/fs/cgroup o.O? [09:37] ey my clock is gone [09:38] hrmf even after unity --reset [09:39] did you reinstall datetimeindicator? [10:02] um [10:02] no [10:02] not that I know [10:02] The following NEW packages will be installed: indicator-datetime [10:03] ok seems like it got eaten up by an update somwehere [10:05] yes unity upgrade killed it if you weren't carefull [10:05] always read dist-upgrade log carefully [12:46] Hi all, I note that dnsmasq has changed where it's reading config from, from /etc/dnsmasq.conf to /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf and wondered if anyone knew much about the change, whether I need to maintain its config differently, etc.? [12:50] tech2: That sounds more like it's being started by network manager which is telling it to use that file [12:52] penguin42: ok, that's a great start, and chances are that yes, it is. It seems to be a recent change though (dns wasn't working for me when I last restarted and I had to work out why), so I'm wondering if this is something I need to configure/manage differently, or if I can just copy my old config to /var/run (which seems counterintuitive) [12:53] how to make autologin in xubuntu 12.04 ? [12:53] tech2: Not sure, I agree it's probably not the right thing to copy it to /var/run [12:54] tech2: If nm is running dns-masq I'd expect you can still run your own instance as well [12:55] thanks penguin42, looks like I have more reading to do :/ [13:28] Hello all. Precise is being tested here for a while and mostly works great. However, I found something strange today : libreoffice-writer has no icon in KDE's quick launcher. It's really not a problem, but I found it was better to report it. I hope that helps. [13:29] how to make autologin in xubuntu 12.04 [13:49] ebischoff: log a bug, reporting it in an irc channel doesn't do anything [13:51] honestly, I don't know whether i will do it, given the success of my previous bug reports (against radeon and kmail). but thanks ikonia. [14:07] running ubuntu 12.04 but the kernel version still only allows me to boot 3.0.0-13-generic. I have to manually edit the boot loader to read 3.2.0-8.generic, I have run sudo grub-update, but nothing seems to change, [14:08] acer_aspire8930: 3.0 an oneiric kernel? [14:08] yes it is [14:08] you have grub installed from that so it stays the default [14:08] i have crash report in the panel ,but i cannot read this ,how i read this? [14:08] I update-manager -d 11.10 [14:08] you ahve to reinstall grub from precise to get it default in the menu [14:09] hm it might be different in that case [14:09] how do I reinstall grub for 12.04 [14:09] sudo grub-install /dev/ [14:10] acer_aspire8930: How is your machine setup - does it just have oneiric updated to precise on it or does it have some bual boot ? [14:10] ok thanks [14:10] 11.10 updated to 12.04 [14:10] though as always when dealing with grub there is a chance that things get screwed up [14:10] so to stay safe stick with editing the cfg [14:10] ok sure will do [14:11] thanks for the advise [14:13] i have crash report in the panel ,but i cannot read this ,how i read this? [14:13] where are the crash report stored ? [14:15] /var/crash [14:16] penguin42, thanks [14:16] aguitel: The apport-* commands can unpack and generally fiddle with them [14:24] Hi, I'm having some trouble with my broadcom driver in Precise, I have to modprobe wl every startup. Is it a known issue and can it be fixed? [14:25] to clarify: wl is loaded but I need to modprobe -r wl; modprobe wl [14:37] any twitter client for xfce ? [14:40] Hiyas all [14:44] Hi. Apart from bugs bugging things up, will installing precise alpha 1 and up(dating)/(grading) result in the same system when 12.04 is released as if I'd installed 12.04 final? [14:45] hi everyone. [14:45] CT1: In principal, but there can be a few differences [14:46] CT1: For example earlier alphas might decide to install a package that later ones don't need, also there a few things that get fixed in some of the update scripts that might not have been in hte alpha [14:48] i think the zeitgeist daemon is not working on my 12.04. Everytime i type "cal" in the dash search bar, it displays libreoffice calc. Then i select the calculator. So, next time when i type "cal", is should display the calculator as the first result, right? [14:49] penguin42: Are those various "things" not upgraded/removed (when I update)? Does it depend on what alpha I originally installed? [14:49] penguin42: (bugs asside) [14:50] CT1: I don't think extra packages that were previously installed necessarily get removed, and the other fixes I was thinking of I think end up in the scripts in do-release-upgrade etc - they're fixes for odd things that don't fit well in packages [14:53] rigved: Hi, not sure how it's supposed to work but I have that same behaviour in both 12.04 and 11.10. Never had it "learn" anything [14:54] penguin42: I'm halfway around the world visiting my brother. I want to upgrade his (dual boot with win7) Lucid to something that (eventually) will be stable/LTS. He uses Ubuntu every now and then. When I leave, I'd like to know that the alpha will be auto-updated/upgraded to the final release. Would this not be the case? [14:55] scarleo: ah. ok then. actually my 11.10 was also similar. i thought that using the history stored by zeitgeist, the items should get ordered. anyways, thanks! at least now i know that it is the default behaviour. [14:56] CT1: It should upgrade all the packages but as I said there may be a few things not quite the same; also remember that what you have now is an alpha and there may be things horribly broken that could cause problems [14:57] penguin42: Thankyou for your advice. I'll leave Lucid untill my next visit. [14:57] CT1: Yeh probably best bet [14:58] Hi folks. Is anyone else seeing "The permission of the setuid helper is not correct" errors? [15:01] hey, how stable is 12.04 now? [15:02] last time I tried, there were x11 issues, and a bad libre-office upgrade [15:02] Not stable enough. [15:02] well a new X is about to land, so that will start over ^^ [15:03] good [15:03] I'd like to get my hands on a more stable ubuntu [15:03] jtaylor: Oh that should be fun :-) [15:03] god knows we've all had more boot-loader issues than anyone cares to count [15:04] I didn't have any boot issues yet [15:05] but sound is borked in the same way as happend last cycle to me :/ [15:05] there can only be one application emitting sound, when I start two everything mutes [15:05] great fun, right? [15:06] jtaylor: That's almost as if something isn't using pulse [15:06] no idea [15:06] last time it just disappeared after a reinstall [15:06] any word on wayland? [15:07] I should try that again, only takes 10 minutes with eatmydata ;) [15:07] jtaylor: if you have something with sound playing you could look at the file descriptors it has open and see if it has the /dev/snd/* open directly [15:08] it has [15:09] yeh, I had that problem a few weeks ago - I think it sorted it self out for me, although not tried rebooting yet after this weeks updates === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:23] I'm getting errors when I try to upgrade nux-tools: "trying to overwrite '/usr/share/apport/package-hooks/source_nux.py', which is also in package libnux-0.9-common 0.9.48-0ubuntu4". Anyone know a workaround? [15:24] just rm it? [15:31] Click on the clock, Time & Date Settings > Clock > Time in other locations > Choose Locations... What needs to go in the entries? I'm getting no auto-complete and whatever I try doesn't work. [15:32] I'm trying "Sydney", "Sydney/Australia", "UTC+2", none of it's working. [15:32] I liked that feature previously, the little map showing daylight hours, the dots for my chosen locations, was very helpful. [15:33] chmac: Can you submit a bug for that, it should help you out [15:34] penguin42: Does it work on your system? [15:34] penguin42: I was going to ask on #ubuntu, see if it works for folks on 11.10 [15:34] chmac: If I type I get noauto complete etc - but when I hit return it gives me a list based on what I typed in [15:35] Bingo, you're right, same here. [15:35] that's not too bad - may be not obvious [15:35] penguin42: It's probably working as expected then, but maybe not as intuitive as it could be, or maybe it's my slow net connection that it takes a while to laod. [15:35] s/laod/load [15:36] nod - it's quite nice being able to add that [15:40] penguin42: Can you add Vancouver? Nothing's coming up for me... [15:40] It's definitely not intuitive! [15:41] no, it doesn't show that [15:41] odd [15:41] I can't get it to return anything on the west coast of the US / Canada. [15:42] Los Angeles, San Francisco, Vancouver, none of them work. [15:44] Oh well, Portland works [15:44] I suppose that'll do... :-) [15:51] chm I'm in eastern time zone in Canada, but my city doesn't show either ,but Toronto works for me [15:51] oops , too late [17:24] what is the twitter client native from xfce ? [17:27] there is ? [17:28] i dont know [17:28] i only know gwibber [17:28] knows * [17:28] me oo [17:28] too [17:28] :o) [18:07] is razor qt running in 12.04 ? [18:33] redshift is in my autostart, but it doesn't start with ubuntu, why is that ? [18:34] what happens when you start it in a terminal [18:36] http://pastebin.com/TyyhrhwY [18:37] when I start it manualy (gui version) it's ok [18:37] and it was ok with autostart, only recently last couple days, it fails to start [18:38] it didn't work for me either when added to startup applications, i found when i added the latitude longitude to the command it worked. it was the geoclue failing [18:38] hi [18:39] is 1204 almost ready to put on a pc [18:39] ? [18:39] I'll try that pdg [18:42] okie [18:44] is razor qt running in 12.04 ? [18:44] what is that [18:46] ? [18:48] http://razor-qt.org/ [18:50] ok [18:56] hi rebe [18:57] hi [18:59] pdg you added it to autostart command ? [18:59] or in terminal ? [19:00] rebe, i added it to the startup applications gui like: redshift -l 49.89:-97.17 -t 6500:5500 [19:00] what that -t is ? [19:01] -t is the daytime:nightime temps [19:02] oh, ok [19:02] can check for the options: man redshift [19:02] I also have a problem with pidgin autostart, it starts but cannot connect [19:02] I have to start it manualy [19:02] (Pidgin:2766): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap" [19:03] here's what terminal shows [19:12] pdg, it worked thx :) [19:12] nice :] [19:13] and with that pidgin it says (waiting for internet conenction) on autostart and it's never ending story, so I guess that pidgin starts before connection is established and than it blocks somehow [19:14] this is in 12.04? yeah sounds like needs delay or something [19:14] and way to delay autostart app, so it waits let's say 10 sec ? [19:14] any way* [19:14] Pidgin 2.10.0 (libpurple 2.10.0) [19:16] also "show system tray" doens't work in pidgin [19:16] you're in 12.04? [19:16] I've got a bug in oneconf that is marked as "invalid" and is not assigned to anyone. What can I do to get the attention of the right person? [19:16] maybe can try http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7737297&postcount=11 i dont autostart anything but redshift and screen [19:18] pdg I'm in 11.10 [19:19] ah, if ask in main ubuntu chan prob get better responses [19:19] I did lol they told me to ask here :) [19:19] oh lol [19:20] i use gnome-shell myself so i dunno unity stuffs like their indicators [19:20] ok [19:20] well good luck [19:28] I fixed that pidgin :) [19:29] sh -c "sleep 10 && /usr/bin/pidgin &" delays autostart [19:29] kewl [19:52] there is no way to enable global menu only when window is maximized in 11.10 ? === NimeshNeema_ is now known as NimeshNeema [20:52] evening [20:53] unity is boarked :( [20:54] you have 2d or gnome-shell installed? Have you tweaked conpiz? [20:54] compiz* [20:56] I've tweaked compiz A LOT [20:56] is the only way I could use Unity :) [21:02] FernandoMiguel, I have mine tweaked as well in 11.10 though, it has to be done right, and I need a compiz restart at times to get the window headers back. [21:04] eheh [21:04] unity update wants to remove ubuntu-desktop metapackage [21:04] bah [21:05] lol go for it live on the bleeding edge. I know yiou know better just joking. [21:08] I just don't upgrade such packages till they are read [21:08] *ready [21:09] glad I have 11.10 and 12.04 live ISOs set on GRUB2 and ChromeOS installed on disk [22:33] hi, is pangolin ubuntu good enough fo use now [22:34] who knowsthis [22:35] not yet [22:35] wow ok [22:35] well but 1204 will be here tsoon, so which is better to instaln now [22:36] hmm? === jokerdino_ is now known as jokerdino === Gunni^ is now known as Gunni [23:18] Will Pangolin use Python3 by default? [23:20] no [23:20] thats insane [23:21] if you mean python = python3 [23:21] will python3 ever be default? [23:21] in many years perhaps