[08:25] <Kilos> lo superfly and others
[08:26] <Kilos> looks like with luck the weenie will be here monday night
[08:26] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[08:26] <nlsthzn> Hey uncle Kilos 
[08:26] <superfly> hi Kilos
[08:26] <superfly> neya nlsthzn
[08:26] <superfly> *heya
[08:27] <nlsthzn> hi superfly 
[08:31] <Kilos> lo bakuman 
[08:31] <Kilos> bbl
[09:56] <magespawn> Howdy all
[13:34] <superfly> hrm, anyone else getting 404 errors on za.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-backports
[15:44] <Kilos> hmmm
[15:44] <Kilos> afternoon superfly and all you other fellas
[15:44] <somaunn> hello everyone
[15:45] <Kilos> looks like maia gonna be here monday night too
[15:45] <somaunn> i'm experiencing a problem with my external hdd
[15:45] <Kilos> hi somaunn 
[15:45] <somaunn> receiving this msg: Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 2:
[15:45] <Kilos> explain the problem
[15:45] <somaunn> gparted is saying that filesystem is unclean
[15:45] <somaunn> how can i clean it
[15:46] <Kilos> hmm chkdsk
[15:46] <Kilos> i will see if i have the command saved here somewhere
[15:47] <somaunn> Kilos, thanks
[15:49] <Kilos> fsck is the command
[15:49] <Kilos> not chkdsk that winsucks
[15:49] <Kilos> type man fsck in a terminal and see if you can work it out somaunn 
[15:49] <Kilos> lo Kerbero[dsp] 
[15:50] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> dag
[15:50] <Kilos> jy hou van jou snaakse nieks ne
[15:51] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> uhm
[15:51] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> snaaks?
[15:51] <Kilos> lol
[15:51] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> dit se^ maar net op watter PC ek is
[15:51] <Kilos> ja die lang sterk
[15:51] <Kilos> watter ene is die een\
[15:52] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> hp netbook
[15:52] <Kilos> o ja skuus man
[15:52] <Kilos> en die ander is desktop iets
[15:52] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> nope
[15:52] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> digital signal processing
[15:53] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:53] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> dis die lab by die uni waar daai pc staan
[15:53] <Kilos> aha
[15:53] <Kilos> somaunn, i gotta go search on my external. saved it somewhere safe
[15:54] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> ai hierdie internet is sleg
[15:54] <somaunn> Kilos, okay
[15:54] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> fsck /dev/sd?#
[15:54] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> ? is 'n letter
[15:54] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> # is 'n nommer
[15:54] <Kilos> somaunn, did you look at man fsck?
[15:54] <Kilos> dankie Kerbero[hp-nb] 
[15:54] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> jy moet net uitvind watter device jou external is
[15:55] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> en watter partition
[15:55] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> maar check alle partitions op die device
[15:55] <Kilos> somaunn, do you understand afrikaans
[15:55] <somaunn> Kilos, yes but receiving this msg http://paste.ubuntu.com/804119/
[15:55] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> as hy report "partition is clean" 
[15:55] <somaunn> Kilos, not at all
[15:55] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> doen 'n "fsck -f /dev/..."
[15:55] <Kilos> Kerbero[hp-nb], kan jy dit in engels se asb
[15:56] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> somaunn: you need to add a number
[15:56] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> the partition number
[15:56] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> normally 1
[15:56] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> fsck -f /dev/sdb1
[15:58] <Kilos> somaunn, does your external have partitions
[15:58] <Kilos> and how many harddrives in your pc
[15:58] <somaunn> yes
[15:59] <somaunn> here is the output: fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[15:59] <somaunn> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sdb1
[15:59] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> ai
[15:59] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> no
[15:59] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> you have to use windows
[15:59] <Kerbero[hp-nb]> ntfs can't be checked in linux afaik
[16:00] <Kilos> somaunn, are you using windows
[16:00] <somaunn> Kilos, on another pc
[16:01] <Kilos> and the stuff you want to see is windows stuff?
[16:02] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:04] <Kilos> somaunn, tell us what you want to look at. if its ntfs format you can do chdsk from a windows pc
[16:05] <somaunn> Kilos, want to recover data's on that hdd
[16:06] <Kilos> ok there are data recover tools
[16:06] <Kilos> one is called photorec
[16:07] <Kilos> another is testdisk
[16:07] <somaunn> Kilos, yes but files can't be recovered on unaccessible hdd is it ?
[16:08] <Kilos> when you plug it into your ubuntu pc what does the output say
[16:09] <Kilos> oh ya
[16:10] <Kilos> install testdisk and then run it and see. it fixes partitions and recovers
[16:10] <Kilos> lets see if it can get into the external
[16:13] <Kilos> somaunn, look here  http://slexy.org/view/s21BTxm4WU
[16:19] <superfly> Kerbero[dsp]: get a bouncer
[17:34] <Kilos> somaunn, did you win?
[17:35] <Kilos> superfly, bouncer? one of them big okes that throw naughty drunks out?
[17:35] <superfly> Kilos: bwahaha
[17:35] <superfly> no, and IRC bouncer
[17:35] <superfly> *an
[17:35] <Kilos> hehe
[17:36] <superfly> Kerbero[dsp]: an IRC bouncer allows you to remain logged in all the time, and from many different places
[17:36] <Kilos> oh like inetpro ?
[17:36] <Kilos> and nuvolari 
[17:37] <Kilos> and some of the others here 
[17:39] <superfly> Kilos: I'm on my phone now.
[17:40] <Kilos> haha i didnt say you. your nick dims when you not here
[17:41] <superfly> Kilos: and now I'm on my netbook
[17:41] <Kilos> wintie
[17:41] <Kilos> that looks wrong
[17:42] <superfly> and now I'm back on my PC
[17:42] <Kilos> hehe
[17:42] <superfly> three
[17:42] <superfly> different
[17:42] <superfly> places
[17:42] <Kilos> that bouncer works well
[17:42] <superfly> at
[17:42] <superfly> the
[17:42] <superfly> Same
[17:42] <superfly> time
[17:42] <Kilos> and i only see you once. thats a kiff tool
[17:42] <superfly> :-)
[17:44] <Kilos> you must teach gustav how to use it superfly 
[17:45] <Kilos> so it shows dimmed when he isw away
[17:45] <superfly> Kilos: gustav?
[17:45] <Kilos> inetpro, 
[17:45] <superfly> Kilos: you mean inetpro?
[17:45] <Kilos> yeah him
[17:45] <Kilos> the lurker
[17:46]  * superfly logs off the phone and the netbook... Otherwise it gets too confusing
[17:46] <Kilos> lol
[17:46] <superfly> when you're chatting in a few channels, it can be quite a challenge to keep up when they're all on different devices
[17:52] <Kilos> ah
[18:06] <inetpro> hmm
[18:07] <inetpro> wie skinder hier so lekker?
[18:07] <Kilos> haha hiya lurker
[18:10] <inetpro> good evening everytone
[18:10] <inetpro> everyone*
[18:11] <inetpro> does Maaz still have coffee for us?
[18:11] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[18:11]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[18:15] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro!
[18:16] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie ou maat
[18:16] <Maaz> inetpro: *blink*
[18:16] <Kilos> aw i missed that
[18:16] <inetpro> Kilos: jy slaap al?
[18:16] <Kilos> went to maake a sarmy
[18:16] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:16]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[18:18] <Kilos> nee man maar ek dra nie n foon op irc as ek gaan kos soek nie
[18:20] <Kilos> en eks te dom om die "away" ding te doen
[18:20] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:20] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[18:20] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[18:36] <inetpro> eish!
[18:36] <inetpro> one thing I HATE about the new Ubuntu is the grouping of application windows
[18:38] <inetpro> how can I disable this so I can switch between two Firefox, or two Thunderbird, or any other two application windows with plain old ALT+TAB
[18:39] <Kilos> lol
[18:40] <Kilos> inetpro, have you read that mail in the lists from charl wensel
[18:40] <Kilos> wentzel
[18:40] <inetpro> Kilos: when?
[18:40] <Kilos> 5 to 11 this morning
[18:41] <Kilos> i can paste it for you
[18:41] <inetpro> no, I'll look now
[18:41] <inetpro> should be in my inbox
[18:42] <Kilos> everyone sukkeling with the destops and goeters
[18:42] <Kilos> look at my channel
[18:42] <Kilos> pasted there
[18:42] <Kilos> grrr
[18:43] <Kilos> inetpro, ^^
[18:43] <inetpro> nee man, I got it
[18:43] <Kilos> sigh
[18:44] <Kilos> i didnt read them all well because i aint got unity probs
[18:44] <inetpro> look, for most of these things it's just a matter getting used to the new way, and  must say they have improved a huge lot of things since the last time I was on gnome
[18:45] <Kilos> lol you still using it
[18:45] <Kilos> what about kubuntu
[18:45] <inetpro> one of those irritating things for me in the past was inconsistent or lack of keyboard shortcuts for different apps
[18:45] <Kilos> ah
[18:46] <inetpro> heh, I have to try and get used to this for a while, with its pains and all before I ditch it
[18:46] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[18:46] <inetpro> but I may end up going back to Kubuntu
[18:47] <Kilos> have you got kubuntu maverick
[18:48] <inetpro> what Charl was addressing is not really my issue
[18:49] <Kilos> thought so but there were quite a few with guys wanting help to find desktops etc
[18:49] <inetpro> I still have maverick installed somewhere on this machine, and at the office
[18:49] <Kilos> hehe did you google
[18:50] <Kilos> how would you google a prob like that any way
[18:50] <Kilos> google is your friend remember
[18:50] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[18:58] <Kilos> night guys
[18:58] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:06] <inetpro> great
[19:06] <inetpro> I disabled the Unity switcher and enabled the old static application switcher
[19:07] <inetpro> works much better even if the new one looks cool
[19:54] <tumbleweed> superfly: apparently the ubuntu archive problem you mentioned earlier has been fixed
[19:54] <superfly> tumbleweed: yeah, it looks like my local apt-cacher-ng was also being a little weird