| jmichaelx | also, when trying to change font size in the settings for lxterminal, they apparently do not save. upon restarting lxterminal, it always reverts back to the original (smaller) font size | 00:00 |
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| pederindi | jmichaelx: what graphic card have the laptop? | 00:00 |
| MrChrisDruif | cousteau; I think it firstly depends if Wayland will be heavier on system resources, but for that we'd need a working Wayland first to test...don't we? | 00:01 |
| cousteau | sure | 00:02 |
| cousteau | well, my impression is that, being a graphic server oriented towards direct hardware acceleration, it'll be slower... but who knows | 00:02 |
| MrChrisDruif | So the coming two years, if not more we don't need to worry about that cousteau. Btw, it would be a nice discussion over at #lubuntu-offtopic | 00:03 |
| jmichaelx | pederindi: it is an nvidia geforce 420 go (nv17) | 00:05 |
| pederindi | nice, so I recommend you to install the official driver | 00:06 |
| jmichaelx | pederindi: you would recommend the proprietary driver over nouveau? | 00:06 |
| pederindi | seems that you have problem with a open-source driver | 00:07 |
| jmichaelx | pederindi: ok... that may well be the case, although i would almost expect nouveau to perform better overall than the ancient nvidia driver | 00:08 |
| pederindi | you can test if official nvidia's driver solve your problem | 00:08 |
| phillw | jmichaelx: have you tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/LXTerminal | 00:09 |
| phillw | please let me know if it is not working & I'll raise a bug for it. | 00:09 |
| jmichaelx | phillw: ty | 00:11 |
| jmichaelx | pederindi: would you recommend 'version 96' or 'version 96 updates'? | 00:11 |
| Sillion | why cant we switch users on lubuntu as in lxde we can? | 00:12 |
| phillw | Sillion: you can in 12.04 :) | 00:12 |
| Sillion | ok ok | 00:12 |
| Sillion | is it because of lxsession? | 00:13 |
| phillw | give the devs a bit of breathing space. 1st up was a stable release accepted by Canonical :) | 00:13 |
| pederindi | jmichaelx: i put geforce > geforce 400 series > geforce gt 420 > linux 32-bit | here: http://www.nvidia.es/Download/index.aspx?lang=es | 00:13 |
| pederindi | but I don't know if is your card! | 00:14 |
| jmichaelx | pederindi: probably similar, although mine is the mobile (laptop) version. ty for the suggestion. i think i will try one of the drivers in the repos first | 00:15 |
| phillw | for video cards and the discussion of which driver is best etc. the best place to head is http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 It is dedicated to sound and vid cards :) | 00:15 |
| jmichaelx | again, ty, phillw | 00:16 |
| phillw | If any of you are asking questions on the main forum area, would you please use the lubuntu tag... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#Ubuntu_Forum has how to set it | 00:18 |
| pederindi | I go to bed, good luck jmichaelx | 00:19 |
| jmichaelx | ok, the nvidia 96 (updates) driver from the repo did NOT work. i now have a completely white screen | 00:23 |
| phillw | jmichaelx: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1753978 but take care to read the entire thread as the last post is important!" | 00:27 |
| Sillion | bye everybody | 00:37 |
| cousteau | jmichaelx, nvidia 96 is usually synonim of "install them manually" | 00:49 |
| phillw | cousteau: as I don't use nvid, is http://joeslifewithubuntu.blogspot.com/2011/09/update-on-that-nvidia-96-driver-for.html still relevant for 11.04 / 11.10 people? | 00:55 |
| cousteau | I use 10.10... | 01:00 |
| cousteau | phillw, the drivers on repositories sometimes work, sometimes don't... I usually install them myself, with all the messed up consequences that has | 01:01 |
| phillw | I'm glad I've only ever had intel or AMD video card systems on my laptops :) | 01:02 |
| phillw | cousteau: well, this one has a [solved] tag for 10.10 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1597264 | 01:06 |
| cousteau | phillw, well, it basically needs a new [solved] for each version | 01:06 |
| jmichaelx | i found the problem with nvidia-96 and my geforce 420 go in this fprum post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417188&highlight=geforce+420 | 01:07 |
| cousteau | it usually gets solved as soon as ubuntu repos get an upstream version of the nvidia drivers, solving incompatibilities with the current xorg version | 01:07 |
| phillw | quite possibly, that is why I try to herd people over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 | 01:07 |
| cousteau | it tends to happen always, every release | 01:07 |
| jmichaelx | my display is now slightly off-center. does anyone know whether or not it could be shifted slightly one direction.. or even stretched slightly further one direction, on a laptop LCD? | 01:16 |
| wxl | is it possible to change the behavior of clicking on the notify window? | 02:57 |
| jmichaelx | i just installed razor-qt from the ppa on a newly installed lubuntu system, but cannot get a razor-qt session started, either using lxdm, or by killing lxdm, and running 'razor-session' from the command line' | 02:59 |
| jmichaelx | any suggestions | 02:59 |
| jmichaelx | is there a way to adjust monitor power settings? after a while, my laptop lcd panel shuts off, and will not wake back up without rebooting | 03:46 |
| phillw | jmichaelx: yes, Menu --> Preferences --> ScreenSaver | 03:49 |
| jmichaelx | phillw: duh. sorry about that. | 03:49 |
| phillw | jmichaelx: np, in the advanced tab, you have the power settings. | 03:49 |
| h4ckm3 | anyone familiar with remastersys? | 04:01 |
| phillw | h4ckm3: nope, but the http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/remastersys set of intructions are good, | 04:05 |
| phillw | just be aware what he says about it being discontinued | 04:06 |
| wxl | phillw: do you know if true transparency is possible with lxsession? | 04:07 |
| wxl | phillw: next question: what about changing the behavior of clicking on the notify window? | 04:08 |
| phillw | I wish i could kill the notify window. | 04:12 |
| phillw | with an axe or a chainsaw, actually | 04:12 |
| phillw | but, at just gone 4am, I'm off to bed :) | 04:13 |
| h4ckm3 | ty | 04:15 |
| h4ckm3 | I'll read it! | 04:15 |
| h4ckm3 | I think he has recently been talked into continuing it! | 04:16 |
| iDiytto | How can I get compositing to work so I can use docky? | 05:10 |
| holstein | i like using kupfer | 05:14 |
| holstein | there is cairo compositing iDiytto | 05:14 |
| iDiytto | Does it come with lubuntu? | 05:14 |
| iDiytto | holstein: How can I enable it? | 05:16 |
| holstein | iDiytto: not that im awaro of | 05:16 |
| holstein | aware* | 05:16 |
| iDiytto | Oh | 05:16 |
| iDiytto | Well I thought there was a visual effects menu, but I can't find it | 05:16 |
| holstein | i would start here http://cairo-compmgr.tuxfamily.org/ | 05:16 |
| holstein | iDiytto: ? | 05:17 |
| holstein | theres not effects like that in lubuntu | 05:17 |
| holstein | LXDE is light | 05:17 |
| holstein | lubuntu is light | 05:17 |
| iDiytto | Oh okay | 05:17 |
| holstein | effects are arguably heavy | 05:17 |
| holstein | you can install and enable compiz if you want | 05:17 |
| iDiytto | I do have compiz installed | 05:17 |
| iDiytto | No idea how to use it | 05:17 |
| holstein | iDiytto: right | 05:17 |
| wxl | arguably? | 05:17 |
| holstein | so maybe you want to use cairo | 05:18 |
| holstein | wxl: right | 05:18 |
| holstein | wxl: the math is happening on the graphics card no? | 05:18 |
| holstein | who really cares? | 05:18 |
| holstein | but... i find it slows things down | 05:18 |
| wxl | i guess | 05:18 |
| iDiytto | I have the CompizConfig settings manager | 05:18 |
| wxl | there is the hard drive space :D | 05:18 |
| holstein | wxl: this would be where an arguent could be inserted ;) | 05:19 |
| wxl | hah | 05:19 |
| holstein | i just say, try it iDiytto , and see for yourself | 05:19 |
| wxl | enlightenment's kind of nice for light+fancy | 05:19 |
| holstein | iDiytto: you'll need to start it | 05:19 |
| iDiytto | Compiz? | 05:19 |
| Unit193 | xcompmgr is another option | 05:20 |
| holstein | iDiytto: orrect | 05:20 |
| holstein | correct* | 05:20 |
| holstein | Unit193: what do you think of it? | 05:20 |
| holstein | i think cairo is more stable | 05:20 |
| wxl | am i wrong or is there no cairo package? | 05:20 |
| Unit193 | holstein: I don't use any comp managers, but someone else thought it worked well enough | 05:20 |
| holstein | iDiytto is stuck on copmiz though | 05:20 |
| Unit193 | And it's already in repo | 05:20 |
| holstein | Unit193: thats true | 05:21 |
| iDiytto | Why am I stuck on compiz? | 05:21 |
| holstein | iDiytto: not sure | 05:21 |
| iDiytto | >.> | 05:21 |
| holstein | it'll look a lot like this | 05:22 |
| holstein | http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/ | 05:22 |
| holstein | iDiytto: ^^ | 05:22 |
| holstein | otherwise, check out xcompmgr, or cairo | 05:23 |
| iDiytto | Oh yeah its not running then | 05:23 |
| holstein | wxl: i think you just get it from here http://download.tuxfamily.org/ccm/cairo-compmgr/ | 05:24 |
| iDiytto | Ill try cairo | 05:24 |
| holstein | iDiytto: if you didnt "run" it, its not running | 05:24 |
| iDiytto | Yeah | 05:24 |
| iDiytto | Well i tryed to run compiz in terminal but everything failed :p | 05:24 |
| holstein | but like Unit193 and wxl say, xcompmrg is in the repos | 05:24 |
| holstein | iDiytto: you can read that link i gave you | 05:24 |
| holstein | compiz --replace is what you need | 05:25 |
| holstein | but, you dont need compiz for docky | 05:25 |
| iDiytto | Well i just want compositing for docky | 05:25 |
| holstein | i like wbar | 05:25 |
| iDiytto | Nothing fancy like compiz does | 05:25 |
| iDiytto | What is wbar? | 05:26 |
| holstein | its a dock | 05:26 |
| holstein | doesnt need comp to be fancy | 05:26 |
| iDiytto | Do you have a screenshot of it? | 05:27 |
| iDiytto | Is it like a dock like docky or more like a bar thing | 05:28 |
| iDiytto | Like a panel | 05:28 |
| iDiytto | I just want it to auto-hide | 05:28 |
| holstein | its nothing like docky | 05:29 |
| holstein | its light | 05:29 |
| holstein | iDiytto: it can be configured to do whatever | 05:29 |
| holstein | hide | 05:29 |
| holstein | not hide | 05:29 |
| iDiytto | Okay cool | 05:29 |
| holstein | be big.. whatever | 05:29 |
| holstein | its got a config file | 05:29 |
| iDiytto | Does it have a settings panel | 05:29 |
| iDiytto | Oh okay | 05:29 |
| holstein | iDiytto: nope | 05:29 |
| iDiytto | I think i can do that | 05:29 |
| holstein | not that im aware of | 05:29 |
| holstein | iDiytto: yup... its actually kind of fun | 05:29 |
| holstein | like conky ) | 05:30 |
| holstein | :) | 05:30 |
| iDiytto | Im on the google code page | 05:30 |
| iDiytto | What deb package do i want to get? | 05:30 |
| iDiytto | Oh nvm its in package manager | 05:30 |
| holstein | yup | 05:31 |
| holstein | i used to have it in the middle of my screen :) | 05:31 |
| iDiytto | Lol cool | 05:31 |
| iDiytto | Where is the config at? | 05:32 |
| holstein | you can start it with command line arguments | 05:32 |
| holstein | you can point it to a config file | 05:32 |
| holstein | its up to you... i forget.. its been a while | 05:32 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-412867.html | 05:33 |
| holstein | ^^ you can read there, but i am pretty sure it *does* auto-hide now | 05:33 |
| holstein | hey! | 05:34 |
| holstein | http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/11/wbar-simple-lightweight-and.html | 05:34 |
| holstein | looks like there is a *-config GUI | 05:34 |
| iDiytto | Yeah im working on installing that now | 05:38 |
| iDiytto | Wow this is awesome | 05:42 |
| iDiytto | :D | 05:42 |
| iDiytto | Where are the Fonts installed to? | 05:44 |
| holstein | iDiytto: im not sure.. but im sure its all customizable | 05:45 |
| holstein | probably more like you just point it to some fonts you want it to use | 05:45 |
| iDiytto | Well yeah | 05:46 |
| iDiytto | But i dont know where the fonts are | 05:46 |
| iDiytto | I need to have a font | 05:46 |
| holstein | /usr/share/fonts? | 05:46 |
| holstein | maybe... | 05:46 |
| iDiytto | Yep! | 05:47 |
| iDiytto | Gah | 05:48 |
| holstein | i dont do docks anymore, but when i do, i use wbar... i like it for family or whatever to because i find its less breakable... and so light | 05:48 |
| iDiytto | Theres not an auto-hide | 05:48 |
| holstein | iDiytto: i might have just always done "let windows cover" or whatever | 05:48 |
| holstein | i remember not needing auto-hide | 05:49 |
| holstein | i thought i had tried it recently and it had that added to it though... but im not sure... | 05:49 |
| holstein | if its a deal-breaker for you.. then its a deal-breaker | 05:49 |
| iDiytto | Nah I like this more | 05:50 |
| iDiytto | Idk | 05:50 |
| iDiytto | Ill figure something out either way :p | 05:50 |
| holstein | enjoy! | 05:52 |
| iDiytto | Yep :p | 05:54 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | morning | 07:49 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | http://postimage.org/image/x6fpf64hz/ Why? | 07:51 |
| === smile_ is now known as smile4ever | ||
| === smile4ever is now known as smile | ||
| joesepp | Hello! I would like to disable screen locking after computer wakes up from suspend. xscreensaver-demo and ~/.xscreensaver have lock: False. What am I missing? | 10:31 |
| MrChrisDruif | I'm not sure that is possible joesepp , but I hope others will be able to prove me wrong | 10:33 |
| joesepp | MrChrisDruif: Why not? | 10:34 |
| MrChrisDruif | Because your system almost completely shuts down, keeping all the programs info in RAM and such as difference | 10:37 |
| MrChrisDruif | joesepp; http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1836#p5283 | 10:38 |
| joesepp | Thanks, but this still doesn't resolve it | 10:40 |
| MrChrisDruif | Alright, continue searching | 10:41 |
| joesepp | thanks | 10:41 |
| MrChrisDruif | You want to prevent entering your password after suspend right? | 10:42 |
| joesepp | that's right | 10:42 |
| * MrChrisDruif wonders what would happen if you remove xscreensaver all together | 10:43 | |
| MrChrisDruif | joesepp; source: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/hardware/449602-disabling-password-resume-suspend.html | 10:44 |
| joesepp | How can I disable xscreensaver starting up in the first place? | 10:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well...if you remove it would be one way | 10:48 |
| joesepp | short of that? | 10:49 |
| MrChrisDruif | The other would require delving into unknown config-files (unknown to me at least) and removing it their from starting. | 10:49 |
| MrChrisDruif | there* | 10:49 |
| MrChrisDruif | joesepp; http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/disable-screensaver-in-lxde-745203/#post3633034 | 10:51 |
| MrChrisDruif | Did that help joesepp ? (I can't try because I'm not running Lubuntu myself) | 11:00 |
| joesepp | that one basically suggests the removal of xscreensaver again. I think I might just do it.. | 11:01 |
| MrChrisDruif | joesepp; | 11:02 |
| MrChrisDruif | Did you read the comment about the autostart.sh? | 11:02 |
| joesepp | yes, doesn't work i did: grep -R screensaver ~/.config/* | 11:04 |
| joesepp | returned nothing | 11:05 |
| MrChrisDruif | Does grep also look inside files with that command? | 11:08 |
| joesepp | yes | 11:08 |
| joesepp | but i found something now | 11:08 |
| joesepp | a global autostart dir appears to be here: /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart | 11:09 |
| joesepp | it's a file actually that has "@xscreensaver -no-splash" written on the first line | 11:10 |
| joesepp | so i'll try to comment that out | 11:10 |
| MrChrisDruif | I'm sorry I can't help you | 11:13 |
| joesepp | ok thanks anyway | 11:13 |
| === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial | ||
| smile | Hi can someone help me? :) I'm trying to execute a .sh script at the end of the startup procedure (executable .sh file into .config/autostart) | 18:04 |
| smile | but it doesn't work | 18:04 |
| smile | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/805393/ | 18:04 |
| Unit193 | 1. Does it have the executable bit? 2. Are you the only user for the system or do you want it to run for all? | 18:06 |
| smile | Unit193: 1) Yes 2) Only. :) | 18:07 |
| smile | maybe the executable i want to kill is launched later in the boot process (and the sh is before it) | 18:07 |
| smile | can i startup it with a delay than? :p | 18:08 |
| Unit193 | You *can* place those commands in /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart but I'm not sure that's exactly supported ;) (Shhhhhh, but I've done it) | 18:08 |
| smile | Unit193: with an @ before it? :p | 18:09 |
| Unit193 | It's what I did | 18:09 |
| Unit193 | But remember what you did as that's NOT a "recommended" section | 18:09 |
| smile | ;) | 18:09 |
| smile | Unit193: no problem. I'll reinstall if it fails :p | 18:10 |
| Unit193 | That's the file for when you select the "Lubuntu" session (or one of them) | 18:10 |
| Unit193 | Backing up the default is also good | 18:11 |
| smile | yeah, I understand & i've already done that :) | 18:12 |
| smile | i'll reboot in half an hour :) | 18:13 |
| Unit193 | Great, just making sure you know all what that does | 18:14 |
| smile | Unit193: and now i hope it will work :) | 18:16 |
| smile | Unit193: didn't work | 18:28 |
| Unit193 | You seem to be killing somethinjg that starts on boot, wouldn't it be better to just disable that? | 18:29 |
| smile | Unit193: I need it once every time my pc boots up :) | 18:30 |
| Unit193 | May also depend on what gets started first | 18:30 |
| smile | AmberJ: hi. :) | 18:30 |
| smile | Unit193: It restores my volume level. :) | 18:30 |
| toscho | hi | 18:41 |
| toscho | why does pcmanfm keep a usb active so long after copying a file to 100% | 18:42 |
| Unit193 | smile: Killing something restores? Heh | 18:53 |
| Unit193 | Copying a file to 100%.... | 18:53 |
| smile | Unit193: it restores the volume level for example to 70% | 18:53 |
| smile | and then i want to close the program :) | 18:54 |
| Unit193 | How do you have it run? | 18:54 |
| smile | Unit193: how do you mean? :p | 18:57 |
| Unit193 | Well, you said you have it on startup, how? Or did it put itself there? | 18:57 |
| AmberJ | hey smile and everyone | 19:01 |
| smile | Unit193: It's by default. Part of gvfsd :s | 19:03 |
| Unit193 | Ah, alrighty | 19:04 |
| AmberJ | Why does not my PC speaker "beep" in linux? | 19:21 |
| Unit193 | Linux, or Ubuntu? | 19:22 |
| AmberJ | On XP (on same dual boot system), it beeps fine. | 19:22 |
| AmberJ | Lubuntu 11.10 | 19:22 |
| smile | AmberJ: I hate the beep so i would be happy :p | 19:22 |
| Unit193 | Some annoying Ubuntu dev got annoyed at it and disabled it 30 different ways, I have only found 17 ways to enable the terminal bell (Not quite the same, but close) | 19:23 |
| holstein | http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/08/23/how-to-turn-off-the-annoying-system-beep-in-linux-debianubuntu/ | 19:23 |
| AmberJ | smile, I use that primarily for feeble but audible hilights during night (when my parents are sleeping). | 19:23 |
| holstein | pretty sure thats what it looked like when i turned that off | 19:23 |
| holstein | Unit193: i bet thats what i have going on | 19:23 |
| holstein | i *want* the terminal bell :/ | 19:24 |
| holstein | didnt think about that til just now | 19:24 |
| Unit193 | holstein: I gave up after the first 17 (Little kidding, I have done at least 7 different ways to enable it) | 19:24 |
| AmberJ | isn't terminal bell same as the beep sound coming from PC speaker? | 19:24 |
| Unit193 | I ended up just using an awesome script for irssi | 19:24 |
| smile | AmberJ: ok :p | 19:25 |
| Juan | Hey, is there a way I can replace chromium with midori on 11.10? Trying to remove chromium defaults to installing firefox automatically. | 19:26 |
| holstein | Juan: just install it, and enjoy :) | 19:27 |
| smile | Juan: first install Midori and then try to remove chromium? ;) | 19:27 |
| AmberJ | holstein, That link says to add some text to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to disable system beep....but my file is already empty. And, I need to enable it | 19:27 |
| Juan | I did. | 19:27 |
| Juan | It install firefox. | 19:27 |
| Juan | Then if I try to remove firefox it install epiphany. | 19:27 |
| Juan | And so on. | 19:27 |
| AmberJ | Juan, A couple of days ago someone posted a command to do that...wait, let me look at logs | 19:28 |
| Juan | I'd like just midori as disk space is scarse. | 19:28 |
| Juan | I'd appreciate it AmberJ. | 19:28 |
| Unit193 | Juan: Did you install midori yet? | 19:29 |
| holstein | AmberJ: you can try xset -b | 19:29 |
| Juan | First thing I did. | 19:29 |
| holstein | and add that as a script or whatever | 19:29 |
| smile | Juan: try sudo apt-get remove chromium-browser --no-install-recommends | 19:29 |
| Unit193 | purge is more fun ;) | 19:29 |
| Juan | I'll try that on epiphany, chromium and firefox already gone. | 19:29 |
| Unit193 | AmberJ: "sudo apt-get purge chromium-browser firefox epiphany-browser midori dolphin konqueror" Was the line they posted | 19:31 |
| Juan | Haha. | 19:31 |
| Juan | As long as it works. | 19:31 |
| holstein | Unit193: Juan is the midori one | 19:31 |
| AmberJ | lol yea...Juan, that line by Unit193 was what I was talking about ;) | 19:31 |
| smile | Unit193: xD | 19:32 |
| holstein | or maybe im wrong... | 19:32 |
| Juan | I am. | 19:32 |
| smile | I have to go, bye :) | 19:33 |
| Juan | Seems that's the way to go guys. | 19:33 |
| Juan | Thanks. | 19:33 |
| Unit193 | holstein: Yeah, that's why I have it to amber, and said "was the line he posted" | 19:33 |
| Unit193 | Juan: Alrighty! | 19:34 |
| Juan | Otherwise it'll keep wanting to install an alternate browser. | 19:34 |
| Juan | That line has them all covered. | 19:34 |
| AmberJ | 'xset -b' is to disable system beep(?) I read 'man xset' and found out that 'xset b on' was supposed to help. But I still *don't* hear a beep :( | 19:36 |
| holstein | AmberJ: OH | 19:36 |
| holstein | i totally misread | 19:36 |
| holstein | i thought you were trying to turn it off | 19:36 |
| holstein | i try every year or so to get the beeps enabled ;) | 19:37 |
| AmberJ | naah. I want to turn it on. | 19:37 |
| holstein | never happened | 19:37 |
| holstein | i did get it turned off a few times | 19:37 |
| Myrtti | I've got "pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg" in my Ubuntu in startup, but I don't know if it would work in Lubuntu | 19:37 |
| holstein | i assumed maybe the machines in question didnt have the capability | 19:37 |
| holstein | Myrtti: you use that just for startup? or does that get triggered for other things? | 19:38 |
| Myrtti | holstein: it sets the audiosample to be played on audible bell afaiko | 19:38 |
| Unit193 | /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg doesn't exist in Lubuntu, but worth a shot with another file | 19:38 |
| holstein | Myrtti: i would be fine with something like that | 19:39 |
| AmberJ | I'm a bit confused here... Myrtti, Would not that beep be sent to speakers instead? | 19:39 |
| AmberJ | I want audible PC speaker bell that beeps inside the cabinet/cpu | 19:39 |
| Myrtti | AmberJ: yes, it would, but it's still better than not getting anything at all | 19:40 |
| holstein | yeah, thats what im assuming its just not working or not there... | 19:40 |
| AmberJ | Myrtti, right thanks. noted. | 19:40 |
| holstein | i run a hard drive scan that beeps when its done, and it doesnt always beep | 19:40 |
| holstein | thats from a live CD | 19:40 |
| AmberJ | But I'll still prefer pc speaker beep :D | 19:40 |
| holstein | so i assumed it was hardware | 19:40 |
| kosaidpo | hello guys | 19:42 |
| AmberJ | holstein, In my case, it beeps fine on XP (same system). So, imho hardware is not at fault here | 19:43 |
| kosaidpo | is there any small tool that ican use to change keymap easily without need to go the the lxkeymap ?? as in a one has a tray icon ? thanks | 19:43 |
| Unit193 | Myrtti: Would you mind sending me that file? (Upload, direct, even email?) | 19:43 |
| holstein | AmberJ: TRUE! | 19:43 |
| holstein | i havent tried enabling on one that i *know* beeps | 19:44 |
| Myrtti | Unit193: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/all/ubuntu-sounds/filelist | 19:45 |
| Unit193 | Thank you | 19:45 |
| kosaidpo | anyone guys ?? welli wish ican change keymap with only some shortcut any idea how to ?? | 19:46 |
| AmberJ | just a minute kosaidpo | 19:46 |
| kosaidpo | AmberJ: sure ' ] | 19:46 |
| kosaidpo | ;] | 19:46 |
| AmberJ | kosaidpo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1455877 | 19:47 |
| kosaidpo | AmberJ: ok thanks chekin it | 19:48 |
| AmberJ | kosaidpo, for example: 'setxkbmap -option grp:ctrl_shift_toggle us,dvorak' .... sets Ctrl+Shift key combo to switch keyboards between QWERTY_US and DVORAK | 19:52 |
| kosaidpo | AmberJ: yeh got it ; ] thanaks | 19:52 |
| AmberJ | Put that line in startup file and you'll be good to go. | 19:52 |
| AmberJ | holstein, Unit193 got a system nearby that's supposed to beep but won't? | 19:58 |
| Unit193 | That's any *ubuntu | 19:59 |
| AmberJ | I think I found a solution... | 19:59 |
| AmberJ | yea any linux will do :D | 19:59 |
| AmberJ | sudo apt-get install beep | 19:59 |
| AmberJ | When it's installed, try this command: 'beep' | 20:00 |
| * Unit193 was sure he had it, then purged it | 20:00 | |
| AmberJ | 'man beep' is useful as well... | 20:03 |
| holstein | AmberJ: no beeps yet | 20:07 |
| holstein | i fired up the box that beeped at me ealier when i tested the drive | 20:07 |
| holstein | nah.. all my tricks have failed again... i not sure what im not doing properly | 20:10 |
| kop | openssh-server & client installed , /etc/ssh/sshd_config configured and still refuses connection with permission denied ... | 20:11 |
| kop | holstein, what are you trying to do or not do ? I just got here | 20:12 |
| holstein | kop: we ( AmberJ and others ) are talking about system beeps and how to *enable* them | 20:12 |
| holstein | the PC speaker, inside the box | 20:12 |
| holstein | i was saying i have gotten them disabled a few times | 20:13 |
| saleem | hi | 20:14 |
| saleem | i was wondering if we can have lxmed for lubuntu for next release | 20:14 |
| saleem | http://sourceforge.net/projects/lxmed/files/ | 20:14 |
| Unit193 | saleem: It's not in the repo, it'd have to be there first | 20:15 |
| Unit193 | holstein: Oh, I did get it once, but only when I VNC'd in! Explain that one to me :P | 20:15 |
| saleem | Unit193, i checked, its not there on repos | 20:15 |
| AmberJ | holstein, what about: 'beep -f 1999 -l 5000 -r 10 --debug' ? | 20:15 |
| Unit193 | saleem: I know, I checked | 20:16 |
| saleem | its a good utility | 20:16 |
| holstein | i had forgotten about beep... trying... | 20:17 |
| AmberJ | maybe it is saleem ...but as Unit193 said, it needs to be in the repos first. | 20:17 |
| holstein | nah... no beeps | 20:17 |
| holstein | lemme look in alsamixer | 20:17 |
| holstein | nah.. :/ | 20:18 |
| AmberJ | holstein, one last try. I know this is weird but if it works, I have found a valid explanation for this: 'sudo beep' | 20:19 |
| Unit193 | holstein: Did you try Myrtti's idea? (Though the file I found seemed to be a null clip, must have found a different version) | 20:19 |
| AmberJ | holstein, or better: 'sudo beep -f 1999 -l 5000 -r 10 --debug' | 20:20 |
| holstein | nope :/ | 20:20 |
| holstein | Unit193: i feel like i can get that happening | 20:20 |
| holstein | this internal beep thing is "personal" | 20:20 |
| saleem | AmberJ, yes i read what Unit193 , i will put a request for this package to be added to the repo, hope it will be approved | 20:21 |
| AmberJ | holstein, My 'sudo' trial was based on this: http://pastebin.com/AGTCe0Tp (source: 'man beep') | 20:22 |
| holstein | AmberJ: ill keep trying though | 20:23 |
| AmberJ | holstein, It says: "What this means is that root can always make beep work (to the best of my knowledge!)....." (and so I asked you to try beep with sudo). | 20:23 |
| holstein | every new and then, i get into it and try again | 20:23 |
| holstein | now* | 20:25 |
| AmberJ | holstein, try try: 'xkbbell -force' ? | 20:39 |
| holstein | AmberJ: i already closed it :/ | 20:40 |
| holstein | have to get some things done before the gig.. like a nap ;) | 20:41 |
| holstein | lets try and touch base about this in a few days though | 20:41 |
| holstein | id like to know how to sort this out | 20:41 |
| AmberJ | holstein, you should also try these two in order: 'sudo modprobe pcspkr' ....and then: 'beep' | 20:42 |
| AmberJ | Note it down :) You can try later | 20:42 |
| MrChrisDruif | Note what down? | 20:42 |
| AmberJ | holstein, my sources: http://askubuntu.com/posts/19909/revisions and http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man3/XkbBell.3.html (you might need this if one of above command works) :D | 20:43 |
| AmberJ | MrChrisDruif, holstein and I are trying to get our system beep (PC speaker audible bell to work). Two commands worked for me and I gave them to him to note down and try later | 20:44 |
| AmberJ | Why doesnot unchecking/disabling [View]->[Toolbars]->[Menu bar] in firefox activate firefox's orange button? | 20:52 |
| MrChrisDruif | Firefox's Orange button? | 20:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | AmberJ; ^ | 20:56 |
| AmberJ | MrChrisDruif, http://img.technospot.net/Remove-the-Orange-Firefox-button-from-your-Browser.jpg | 20:56 |
| MrChrisDruif | I think it's due to the theme being used | 20:57 |
| MrChrisDruif | Because you DO get that firefox menu-button right? | 20:57 |
| AmberJ | I get the firefox's *traditional* menu bar right now... | 20:58 |
| AmberJ | But not that orange colored button... | 20:58 |
| AmberJ | I don't need orange color....Even pink will do (j/k). | 20:58 |
| MrChrisDruif | I've got a "plain" colored button | 20:58 |
| AmberJ | I want that button... | 20:58 |
| MrChrisDruif | But that's in "normal" Ubuntu | 20:59 |
| AmberJ | "plain" button will do...but how? | 20:59 |
| MrChrisDruif | Got a screenshot of the current situation? | 20:59 |
| AmberJ | just a min | 20:59 |
| AmberJ | MrChrisDruif, http://i.imgur.com/HhXDl.png | 21:01 |
| MrChrisDruif | And you've got Menu-bar unchecked in view? | 21:02 |
| AmberJ | oops, that was with menu bar checked...just a minute | 21:04 |
| AmberJ | with menu bar UNchecked: http://i.imgur.com/1z0J4.png | 21:06 |
| MrChrisDruif | When was your last update of Firefox AmberJ ? | 21:06 |
| AmberJ | Yesterday | 21:07 |
| AmberJ | I mean I did 'sudo apt-get upgrade' yesterday. Isn't that supposed to update firefox to latest version in 11.10 repos? | 21:08 |
| AmberJ | Firefox 9.0.1 | 21:08 |
| Unit193 | That updates the lists only | 21:09 |
| AmberJ | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ? | 21:10 |
| MrChrisDruif | Unit193; you are wrong. sudo apt-get update updates the lists only | 21:10 |
| Unit193 | MrChrisDruif: Woops, read that wrong | 21:10 |
| AmberJ | that's^ what I knew | 21:11 |
| Unit193 | AmberJ: That updates programs, but doesn't install new ones if they are in depends | 21:11 |
| AmberJ | Unit193, which one? dist-upgrade? upgrade? | 21:11 |
| Unit193 | Upgrade | 21:11 |
| MrChrisDruif | I thought it did | 21:12 |
| Unit193 | dist-upgrade will install new packages as needed (eg, kernel updates) | 21:12 |
| AmberJ | noted. | 21:13 |
| Unit193 | AmberJ: Skim the manpage to see the difference, it's well marked | 21:14 |
| AmberJ | MrChrisDruif, Can you please check if you have "Global menu bar integration" enabled in firefox addons? | 21:14 |
| MrChrisDruif | Where can I find which ones are enabled? <_<" | 21:16 |
| Unit193 | It'll be marked if it's disabled | 21:16 |
| Unit193 | Tools > Addons | 21:16 |
| AmberJ | Ctrl+Shift+A | 21:17 |
| MrChrisDruif | Found it and it's enabled | 21:18 |
| AmberJ | MrChrisDruif, I found the button! I use an addon "Tree style tabs" (vertical, tree style tabs addon) to manage tab hell :D Firefox's orange/gray button was in front of my eyes but I could not locate it | 21:27 |
| MrChrisDruif | Glad it is solved | 21:31 |
| AmberJ | MrChrisDruif, See where I found it: http://i.imgur.com/kUzUw.png (right toppish corner) Thanks a lot :) | 21:35 |
| MrChrisDruif | Smarty pants ;-) | 21:36 |
| AmberJ | MrChrisDruif, Do you have any idea why "global menu bar integration" addon is installed with firefox in Lubuntu? I thought it was for Ubuntu's Unity | 21:38 |
| MrChrisDruif | It is, but it doesn't hurt in the other flavours so it would be hellish to "remove" it for the other ones | 21:38 |
| AmberJ | From a different view, it would as well be 'hellish' not to remove it (since it won't be of any use in Lubuntu) | 21:41 |
| AmberJ | But then I forgot that Lubuntu ships with Chromium... | 21:42 |
| MrChrisDruif | Ghehe, that is also the case and I think you can remove it without much difficulty | 21:42 |
| AmberJ | Yes, manual removal is not difficult except that it takes time ;) | 21:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | Making it automatically remove for those few that even notice it being installed is too much trouble ;-) | 21:47 |
| MrChrisDruif | You could probably make a small script for it and share it with the world ^_^ | 21:48 |
| AmberJ | MrChrisDruif, I was instead planning to add "sudo apt-get purge firefox-globalmenu" to my personal post-install config script. Now that you mentioned it, I may blog about this as well. | 21:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | Your welcome | 21:55 |
| * MrChrisDruif should either look into a post-installation script for Ubuntu or an installation script for Debian/Arch | 21:56 | |
| MrChrisDruif | AmberJ; could you share your post-installation script? ^_^ | 21:56 |
| AmberJ | Ubuntu/Debian/Arch....No Lubuntu? :( | 21:56 |
| MrChrisDruif | AmberJ; I count Lubuntu to Ubuntu... | 21:57 |
| MrChrisDruif | Should've said *ubuntu | 21:57 |
| AmberJ | Say *ubuntu instead :D | 21:57 |
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