[01:28] <sagaci> head_victim: did you think about that ubuntu-manual project?
[04:30] <head_victim> sagaci: I believe the ubuntu-manual project was started by another ubuntu-au'er of a while ago (nisshh)
[04:31] <head_victim> It looks like a good idea but I've never had enough time to really look into it.
[04:32] <sagaci> I'm just referring to a while back when you said something along the lines of wanting to get involved with something similar to what they're doing
[04:32] <head_victim> Ah, I don't recall the conversation but I don't deny something like that occuring ;)
[04:35] <head_victim> I'm trying to do a writeup for the installfest, but I'm starting to realise why I never do much writing other than documenting specific processes ;)
[04:37] <benonsoftware> :P
[04:50] <head_victim> Sorry it's a bit drab but at least it's there - http://ubuntu.org.au/node/91
[04:52]  * benonsoftware checks it out
[04:52] <head_victim> Suggestions for improvements welcome :)
[04:53] <benonsoftware> Fine for me
[05:00]  * benonsoftware is helping out with the Classroom Team now ;p
[05:11] <head_victim> benonsoftware: nice work.
[05:11] <benonsoftware> :P
[06:31] <benonsoftware> head_victim: When is the RMB meeting again?
[07:27] <sagaci> benonsoftware: second tuesday of every month
[07:27] <benonsoftware> sagaci: Thanks
[07:28] <benonsoftware> Thats sadly ruled out the Aisa board for me
[07:28] <benonsoftware> s/Aisa/Asia
[07:35] <sagaci> there's always the EMEA or Americas
[07:35] <benonsoftware> sagaci: Yeah, but thats during school :P
[07:36] <sagaci> just stay up one night on red bull
[07:38] <sagaci> EMEA is 7am
[07:39] <sagaci> or asked for a later place in the meeting could push it to 7:30am
[07:40] <sagaci> ask*
[07:53] <head_victim> benonsoftware: if you're going for membership the biggest suggestion I can make is to ensure your application (wiki page) is complete and succinct. And like sagaci said, feel free to choose whatever board suits your timetable best.
[07:54] <benonsoftware> head_victim: Thank you, I'm getting a few testimonals first
[07:54] <benonsoftware> and the time is bad for me
[07:55] <benonsoftware> As I would be at school during all of the times or sleeping :P
[07:58] <sagaci> it's only <20mins :)
[07:59] <benonsoftware> Well <20min could be a big difference :P
[08:00] <sagaci> you just need to make time
[08:01] <benonsoftware> Yeah, well at 2000 UTC I'm leaving for school, 0000 UTC I'm in the middle of a class and 9PM my time I'm in bed :P
[08:03] <sagaci> Asia/Oceania would only go until 9:30pm at the most, if you requested to go first
[08:03] <benonsoftware> Yeah, I might apply via that in a few weeks time
[08:03] <benonsoftware> (If I'm ready :P)
[08:04] <sagaci> I think you know when you're ready
[08:05] <sagaci> but I don't see it as a thing that I can just slack off for two years, I'd like to hold myself to aiming for something better and achieving that result by 2014
[08:05] <benonsoftware> Yeah
[08:20] <head_victim> The trick is showing the significant and sustained effort. Unless it's documented it's hard to show.
[08:23] <benonsoftware> Ok
[08:23]  * benonsoftware is atm writing the back log of UBT team reports
[08:28] <head_victim> Yeah, I wish I had more time to help the UBT, they're floundering a bit lately.
[08:29] <benonsoftware> We're getting a bit better each time :P
[08:42] <blahdeblah> Hi folks. Anyone noticed that their Java Firefox plugin stopped working recently?
[08:48] <head_victim> blahdeblah: not that I'd noticed sorry but I only have 10.04 and 12.04 desktops currently
[08:50] <blahdeblah> Apparently, it was done on purpose.
[08:50]  * blahdeblah googles for changelog entries
[08:51] <blahdeblah> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6
[08:52] <blahdeblah> References http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/javacpuoct2011-443431.html
[08:52] <sagaci> wasn't that the one they had to remove
[08:54] <blahdeblah> Not sure what you're referring to, but it seems that they have disabled only the plugin for security reasons
[08:54] <blahdeblah> Debian recently stopped distributing the Sun Java due to licensing changes, but this seems to be something different.
[08:55] <blahdeblah> However, i can't see anything in that changelog which explains the link - the Java bulletin only says to update Java.
[08:59] <head_victim> Oh yeah, the move to openjdk?
[09:01] <blahdeblah> The move to openjdk for Debian was prompted by the licensing changes
[09:01] <blahdeblah> Trying this solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1896122
[09:01] <head_victim> blahdeblah: I thought the same occured in Ubuntu?
[09:01] <blahdeblah> I don't think so, because they come from the partner repo
[09:02] <blahdeblah> Which i think is licensed appropriately with Oracle
[09:02] <head_victim> Yeah but I thought they had to remove from the partner as well
[09:02] <blahdeblah> Could be wrong, thogh
[09:02] <blahdeblah> The packages are definitely still there
[09:02] <head_victim> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_.28Sun.29_Java_6
[09:04] <blahdeblah> Apparently the message hasn't reached Canonical: http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/s/sun-java6/
[09:05] <head_victim> I thought they had empty packages or something
[09:05] <head_victim> Hang on I'll find some more detail
[09:06] <blahdeblah> the linked notice has more info
[09:06] <blahdeblah> Not happy.  Have to install manually.
[09:07]  * blahdeblah tries icedtea plugin first
[09:09] <head_victim> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2011-December/001528.html is the announcement I think
[09:24] <blahdeblah> Found it earlier: (19:06:41) blahdeblah: the linked notice has more info
[10:36] <sagaci> hi Phlosten 
[10:40] <Phlosten> yo
[11:11] <sagaci> yay, feed on planet.ubuntu.com :)