| Jordan_U | trinitas: Nobody ever said that you would be unbanned automatically after a day. What LjL stated was "i don't feel comfortable enough removing the ban at this time, so i suggest we both take at least a day or so to think about it." | 00:00 |
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| trinitas | exactly | 00:01 |
| Jordan_U | trinitas: In other words, come back in a day and we can begin discussing things again. | 00:01 |
| trinitas | Jordan_U: i'll wait till LjL is around. | 00:02 |
| Jordan_U | trinitas: OK. | 00:03 |
| Jordan_U | pangolin: I hope you don't mind me doing that. | 07:51 |
| pangolin | not at all | 07:51 |
| LjL | trinitas: are you going to both respect the guidelines (everything in !etiquette more accurately) and avoid making snarky remarks about bans? in general, the idea is you remember #ubuntu-offtopic is a channel to chill in, and not a platform for complaint about your IRC situation. also if it turns out there has to be another ban, that ban will be much longer. | 10:44 |
| oCean | ah wait, <ubuntuaddicted1> is mazda01 | 12:00 |
| bazhang | the FBI guy? | 12:00 |
| oCean | that one | 12:01 |
| oCean | That's the one I think | 12:01 |
| oCean | yup, BT says it is so | 12:02 |
| LjL | oCean: how is pw cracking illegal activity? i'm pretty sure the most common use of zip crackers is to crack passwords people have forgotten. | 15:29 |
| oCean | really? I never forget my pw's | 15:30 |
| LjL | good for you | 15:30 |
| Myrtti | I WRITE THEM ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND STICK THE NOTE UNDER MY LAPTOP | 15:30 |
| Myrtti | works EVERY time. | 15:30 |
| topyli | Myrtti: i know, it's a very helpful habit | 15:32 |
| Tm_T | trinitas: are you there? | 15:44 |
| oCean | LjL: Actually I use KeePassX to not to lose valueable passwords. truth is, I was busy with other things, missed the context and probably should not have responded at that discussion at all | 17:28 |
| oCean | but i still wonder, when _should_ we break off such a discussion. IMO posting lines like "I used to crack rars too" don't give much confidence on how the discussion will develop. It's like the discussion on aircrack-ng I think | 17:29 |
| LjL | oCean: ok. my stance anyway is, unless it's clear the user is doing X for illegal purposes (because he somehow makes it clear), then i assume good faith. | 17:29 |
| LjL | oCean, the guy was looking for packages, seems appropriate for #ubuntu. if he had started getting into the specifics of how ZIP passwords work or the like, maybe he should have been redirected. | 17:30 |
| oCean | Ok, that seems a better approach anyway | 17:31 |
| LjL | oCean: and don't think people are smart enough to avoid mentioning their illegal intentions... more often than not, people *will* candidly say they're trying to pirate something / "crack into the neighbor's wifi" / etc. so if they don't, there's a fair chance they're trying to do something legitimate. | 17:32 |
| oCean | hehe, yeah, I've seen that happen. | 17:34 |
| oCean | So, it's a good approach also because otherwise they will turn the discussion into one on the channel rules/guidelines. Something that is less likely to happen when someone is so candid about their illegal intention | 17:36 |
| pangolin | trinitas: are you around? | 18:38 |
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