| ChinnoDog | sup peeps | 02:43 |
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| ChinnoDog | hi ssweeny | 02:43 |
| HowdyDoody | hi ChinnoDog | 03:38 |
| HowdyDoody | Hi ChinnoDog | 03:39 |
| HowdyDoody | First is was invisible chars, then they both went red. InHisName only sees black ones. | 03:41 |
| HowdyDoody | ChinnoDog: know much about fixing installers ? See pastebin above. | 03:42 |
| InHisName | After 13.5 hours of classroom lectures, are you all too tired to type ? | 03:48 |
| ChinnoDog | HowdyDoody: what is wrong with your file system? Either your apt cache is corrupted (just delete it) or you are out of space or some other resource. | 04:07 |
| InHisName | Just delete it ? what path to ref for delete ? | 04:15 |
| ChinnoDog | uh | 04:16 |
| ChinnoDog | I think you can wipe out /var/cache/apt | 04:16 |
| InHisName | How is it reconstructed ? with simple commands like sudo apt-get -f install ? | 04:18 |
| ChinnoDog | I think apt automatically rebuilds it when it downloads stuff | 04:19 |
| ChinnoDog | If you aren't sure then just rename it or move it | 04:19 |
| InHisName | ok | 04:19 |
| ChinnoDog | It will definitely redownload packages the next time you try to install something and hopefully fix your corrupted package error | 04:19 |
| HowdyDoody | update software: --->The package system is broken Check if you are using third party repositories. If so disable them, since they are a common source of problems. Furthermore run the following command in a Terminal: apt-get install -f | 04:30 |
| ChinnoDog | I'm not sure how much of that directory you can empty. Try creating the directory but leave it empty | 04:31 |
| HowdyDoody | details: The following packages have unmet dependencies: thunderbird-globalmenu: Depends: thunderbird (= 8.0+build1-0ubuntu0.11.10.1) but 7.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 is installed thunderbird-gnome-support: Depends: thunderbird (= 8.0+build1-0ubuntu0.11.10.1) but 7.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 is installed update-manager: Depends: python (< 2.8) but 2.7.2-7ubuntu2 is installed | 04:31 |
| ChinnoDog | oh. So is it working or not? | 04:32 |
| HowdyDoody | I mv'd the /var/cache/apt dir and created another apt dir | 04:32 |
| HowdyDoody | no, got dependendecnys | 04:32 |
| HowdyDoody | how to fix 'unmet' dependencies ? | 04:34 |
| HowdyDoody | I am trying sudo apt-get -f install big d/l of thunderbird | 04:38 |
| ChinnoDog | ok, then lets do this differently | 04:38 |
| HowdyDoody | maybe it'll get better | 04:38 |
| ChinnoDog | Put back the old apt directory, but delete the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives | 04:38 |
| HowdyDoody | no errors with that fix | 04:39 |
| ChinnoDog | Technically anything in /var/cache should be able to be deleted. I guess that isn't really true this time. | 04:39 |
| ChinnoDog | Why do I never have an ubuntu install CD when I need one | 04:40 |
| ChinnoDog | ? | 04:40 |
| HowdyDoody | in apt was dir archives and pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin all were recreated. | 04:40 |
| HowdyDoody | Shall I do anything else before trying out update mgr again ? | 04:41 |
| ChinnoDog | I am confused. What are the steps you have taken to reach the current state of /var/cache/apt? | 04:42 |
| HowdyDoody | I am trying sudo apt-get -f install | 04:42 |
| ChinnoDog | I know that | 04:43 |
| ChinnoDog | How have you molested your file system since I started trying to help? | 04:43 |
| HowdyDoody | after trying updt mgr and it failed with dependencies error., | 04:43 |
| HowdyDoody | 1. mv apt bapt | 04:44 |
| HowdyDoody | 2.mkdir apt -- check permissions, good. | 04:44 |
| HowdyDoody | 3. update mgr --> failed depndcys | 04:44 |
| HowdyDoody | 4. sudo apt-get -f install | 04:45 |
| ChinnoDog | Why is it necessary to -f? | 04:45 |
| HowdyDoody | dunno, so many say that when anything wrong | 04:46 |
| ChinnoDog | Forcing things when you don't know what is wrong is generally a bad idea. | 04:46 |
| ChinnoDog | You need to make your apt database consistent | 04:47 |
| HowdyDoody | yep, is there way to check the consistancy ? | 04:47 |
| ChinnoDog | I want to see the error message you get when you dont' use -f | 04:47 |
| HowdyDoody | run same without -f | 04:48 |
| HowdyDoody | here goes | 04:48 |
| HowdyDoody | libstdc++5 no longer needed. use apt-get autoremove 0 up, 0 new 0 to remov 3 not upgraded | 04:49 |
| HowdyDoody | no errors that I see | 04:50 |
| ChinnoDog | ok. Now just apt-get install your package and let it download dependencies | 04:50 |
| HowdyDoody | what pkg ? one of the 3 not upgraded ? | 04:51 |
| ChinnoDog | I thought you were trying to install a specific package. What is the goal here? | 04:52 |
| HowdyDoody | fix installer(s) to have no errors NOR crash. Then to update all until no more updates needed. | 04:53 |
| ChinnoDog | sudo apt-get upgrade | 04:53 |
| HowdyDoody | 'k | 04:53 |
| ChinnoDog | if your package list is old you will have to sudo apt-get update first | 04:54 |
| HowdyDoody | about 15 minutes old | 04:54 |
| ChinnoDog | then just upgrade | 04:55 |
| HowdyDoody | Just finished. | 04:55 |
| HowdyDoody | no visible errors | 04:55 |
| ChinnoDog | k. You can sudo apt-get autoremove to get rid of any leftover packages | 04:56 |
| ChinnoDog | (since it did suggest that...) | 04:56 |
| HowdyDoody | 'k | 04:56 |
| HowdyDoody | freed up 1.0 mb | 04:57 |
| HowdyDoody | I might be done now with the installer(s) ? | 04:58 |
| ChinnoDog | I think so | 04:58 |
| HowdyDoody | Now I can see if firefox still has issues. It locks computer or crashes out soon after starting. | 04:59 |
| HowdyDoody | hasn't crashed yet. | 05:00 |
| HowdyDoody | 10 min and I'll know for sure | 05:00 |
| HowdyDoody | time to brush teeth and other things | 05:02 |
| HowdyDoody | 10 minutes and no crashing yet. | 05:09 |
| HowdyDoody | Seems to be all working much better now. | 05:16 |
| ChinnoDog | good | 05:17 |
| rmg51 | Morning | 11:34 |
| JonathanD | Morning. | 12:05 |
| * waltman *YAWNS* | 15:31 | |
| * rmg51 continues to read the morning paper | 15:35 | |
| * waltman tries to figure out why the awstats cronjob suddenly decided to start reporting errors | 15:46 | |
| waltman | aha! permissions on /etc/apache2/access.log changed from 644 to 640 | 15:49 |
| waltman | er, /var/log/apache2/access.log | 15:49 |
| * rmg51 still continues to read the morning paper and listen to Pandora | 15:54 | |
| waltman | ok, let's see if this fixes it... | 15:55 |
| waltman | backups++ | 16:00 |
| ChinnoDog | I can not get a bootloader to to boot my ExpressCard SSD on my laptop :-( | 19:01 |
| ChinnoDog | grub does not see it | 19:01 |
| ChinnoDog | now does the EasyBCD BIOS extender image | 19:02 |
| ChinnoDog | s/now/nor | 19:03 |
| ChinnoDog | I think this is impossible | 19:48 |
| ChinnoDog | I might throw some money at this problem | 19:48 |
| rmg51 | ChinnoDog: if you want, you can also throw some money my way ;-) | 19:58 |
| jedijf | ChinnoDog: do you mean grub from grub cli (prompt) can't see it? | 20:02 |
| jedijf | and is this grub or grub2 | 20:02 |
| ChinnoDog | grub4dos, which was installed by EasyBCD in windows | 20:09 |
| ChinnoDog | and no, it can not | 20:09 |
| ChinnoDog | root (hd1,1) says invalid drive | 20:09 |
| ChinnoDog | I can solve this at the cost of $9 + 1 USB port. http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0352697 | 20:11 |
| jedijf | rescure cd image to kickboot the ssd | 20:13 |
| jedijf | rescue ?? | 20:13 |
| ChinnoDog | hmm. I have to think about that for a minute | 20:15 |
| ChinnoDog | I want to do this without creating new problems. haha | 20:21 |
| jedijf | oh, so whole hidden os on stick...usb boot works...hidden chinno done | 20:23 |
| ChinnoDog | I'm not sure how hidden it needs to be | 20:24 |
| ChinnoDog | I don't want to be constrained by the TrueCrypt policy of hidden volumes not having access to regular ones. I think I might use dm_crypt and be happy with that | 20:24 |
| ChinnoDog | Separation of personal files from work files should be enough | 20:24 |
| ChinnoDog | If I am going to throw money at it anyway I want to keep this simple. hmm | 20:27 |
| jedijf | ten bucks doesn't count as 'money' | 20:28 |
| jedijf | more like cost of doing business | 20:29 |
| rmg51 | jedijf: spends more then that crossing bridges | 20:32 |
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| ChinnoDog | Well, option 1: use USB flash as boot media, but then bootstrap Expresscard SSD that is invisible to BIOS | 20:58 |
| ChinnoDog | option 2: Buy a USB flash big enough to install Ubuntu on it and use ExpressCard SSD as /home | 20:59 |
| rmg51 | does it have to be an ssd? why not just a thumb drive? | 21:09 |
| ChinnoDog | Because 1. I already own it 2. It doesn't stick out of the laptop | 21:10 |
| rmg51 | 3. it is the hardest way to do it :-D | 21:12 |
| ChinnoDog | I know :-( | 21:12 |
| ChinnoDog | There might be another way | 21:17 |
| ChinnoDog | maybe better? I could get the little USB flash and install XenClient to it | 21:18 |
| ChinnoDog | My laptop has been on the HCL from the beginning | 21:18 |
| ChinnoDog | I would be able to boot natively without USB flash, boot in XenClient with it | 21:18 |
| ChinnoDog | and Ubuntu could happily exist entirely on the SSD | 21:18 |
| ChinnoDog | I take it back. Too many caveats with that. Ubuntu support in Xenclient not that great; I won't even be able to run 11.10. | 21:20 |
| rmg51 | just keep over thinking it :P | 21:21 |
| ChinnoDog | :-p | 21:23 |
| ChinnoDog | If it was more than 4gb I would consider just installing Ubuntu on it but it isn't big enough | 21:29 |
| InHisName | Does that flash drive have anything to do with my S-100 buss computers from long ago ? | 21:29 |
| InHisName | maybe dsl or puppy? | 21:30 |
| ChinnoDog | I only want to install Xubuntu. Idk the answer to the other question. Maybe not, but I don't see any devices with similar names made by Emtec. Maybe it was a marketing person being clever. | 21:32 |
| jedijf | ChinnoDog: i run ubus on 4gig disks | 21:33 |
| ChinnoDog | I've installed it on 2 but it was really tight | 21:35 |
| ChinnoDog | 4gb isn't enough for a full fledged workhorse type install | 21:36 |
| ChinnoDog | omg. lol | 21:44 |
| ChinnoDog | I have a second option | 21:44 |
| ChinnoDog | I feel so stupid now | 21:44 |
| ChinnoDog | Awhile back I bought a cd-rom bay hard disk adapter | 21:45 |
| ChinnoDog | but it didn't seem to work | 21:45 |
| ChinnoDog | I just tried it again. I think I didn't know how to make it work before | 21:45 |
| ChinnoDog | I could just use the other hard disk. | 21:45 |
| ChinnoDog | http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0282745 | 21:50 |
| ChinnoDog | WINNER | 21:50 |
| ChinnoDog | The hard disk in the tray now came from work | 21:50 |
| ChinnoDog | oh. it is out of stock | 21:51 |
| jedijf | out of stock in philly | 21:51 |
| jedijf | just sayin | 21:51 |
| ChinnoDog | :-( | 21:51 |
| jedijf | but still good options...so 3 hd's in lappy...2 mechanical and one ssd? | 21:52 |
| ChinnoDog | That is correct | 21:52 |
| ChinnoDog | I hardly ever use the CD drive anyway | 21:52 |
| ChinnoDog | I'll go see what is in the OEM bins | 21:53 |
| jedijf | philly is asking for people to go light on hd's because of floods in thailand - | 21:54 |
| jedijf | no more than 2 please | 21:54 |
| ChinnoDog | what? lol | 21:55 |
| jedijf | noticed when i picked up my mac mini tb server | 21:56 |
| ChinnoDog | mc closes at 6. I guess I better get dressed and go. | 21:58 |
| ChinnoDog | Oh. Ther eis a 320gb hard disk in my personal laptop I am not even using | 22:03 |
| ChinnoDog | Too many parts around here | 22:04 |
| JonathanD | 249 | 22:05 |
| ChinnoDog | 320gb sata hdd installed. Awesome | 22:07 |
| JonathanD | I just found a laptop drive in my backpack. | 22:07 |
| JonathanD | I lost it months ago. | 22:07 |
| ChinnoDog | I have lots of space for Ubuntu and I can partition the SSD so that both Windows and Ubuntu can use it for accelerating disk operations. | 22:13 |
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