[00:09] <astraljava> meh... stupid bug in sound juicer. Won't mount the disc if it can't find the TOC in MusicBrainz.
[14:20] <ScottL> astraljava, i was having trouble with rhythmbox and ripping to flac under oneiric :/
[14:31] <astraljava> On top of that failure, sound juicer didn't understand if there was a 2-cd release. It suggested all tracks with a sole cd. Caused failures to rip the 2nd one.
[14:31] <astraljava> Gotta file two bugs on that.
[15:57] <knome> most of the cd rippers are bad
[15:58] <knome> some of them are just less bad
[16:03] <holstein> i personally dont care if ubuntustudio includes a way to rip music
[16:04] <holstein> i think we should be more in the creation of content
[16:04] <holstein> though,  have used rippers on projects before
[16:04] <holstein> you get session files as an audio CD or whatever
[16:04] <knome> i can see how ripping is part of creating new music too
[16:05] <holstein> sure, but you can also argue that flash is
[16:05] <holstein> watching youtube vids
[16:05] <holstein> and we can never include that
[16:05] <holstein> ill be happy when flash is gone!
[16:05] <knome> heh, sure
[16:05] <knome> me too
[16:06] <knome> and i'm happy when pirating is gone too, but i still do rip my cd's :)
[16:06] <holstein> well... i'll be happy when we can include foss tools to do everything that needs to be done
[16:06] <holstein> i dont want to be to particular on the details in my day-dream
[16:06] <knome> heh
[16:06] <holstein> knome: yeah...i dont want to equate ripping to pirating
[16:06] <holstein> but some would
[16:07] <holstein> the record labels do :/
[16:07] <knome> yeah. too bad.
[16:07] <holstein> whatever... its *too* grey to get into it
[16:07] <knome> well, in finland you are paying an additional tax every time you buy a blank CD
[16:07] <knome> just because people are pirating
[16:07] <holstein> knome: i heard about that
[16:07] <knome> that sucks
[16:08] <holstein> yeah, but here, we just put a single mom in jail occasionaly
[16:08] <holstein> not sure that better
[16:08] <knome> not really
[16:08] <knome> but the finnish model is better of the worse too
[16:08] <knome> +only
[17:41] <astraljava> Mike, I wasn't suggesting we should include one by any means. I was just grumbling, since this is the most related channel on my list. :)
[17:42] <astraljava> I see there's no informal meeting occuring in here.
[17:42] <holstein> astraljava: mike is to me?
[17:42] <holstein> im not complaining about it
[17:42] <astraljava> I don't know any other Mikes. :)
[17:42] <astraljava> ...in here.
[17:42] <holstein> just starting a 'what should be included" convo
[17:42] <astraljava> Yeah okay.
[17:42] <holstein> and how challening that can be
[17:42] <astraljava> I was worried you took it like that. :)
[17:42] <holstein> astraljava: nah
[17:43] <holstein> astraljava: you guys do what you ned to do too... include whatever
[17:43] <holstein> im just trying to appreciate different perspectives
[17:43] <astraljava> Are you not counting yourself as 'one of us'?
[17:43] <holstein> TBH, we know someone will always have a problem with whatever ;)
[17:43] <holstein> astraljava: i can.. im just no coder :/
[17:44] <astraljava> I think of us as contributors, not coders.
[17:44] <holstein> astraljava: cool
[17:44] <holstein> im one of those!
[17:44] <astraljava> Good, I was worried, again. :D
[17:44] <holstein> hehe
[17:47] <astraljava> Since there doesn't seem to be others, is there anything you'd like me to work on during the coming week?
[17:47] <astraljava> I'm a bit out of the loop, and not sure what's urgent and what could be postponed.
[17:47] <holstein> astraljava: well, just if there's anything i can do, as far as aking someone for something
[17:47] <holstein> something not too technical
[17:48] <holstein> what about the LIVE cd?
[17:48] <holstein> is that happening?
[17:48] <astraljava> I suppose that's one of the most urgent, yes.
[17:48] <astraljava> I will ping Colin tomorrow, as he mentioned he's going to have some vacation in Feb., so that should be resolved during January.
[17:49] <holstein> wow
[17:49] <holstein> yeah... i would *love* to have it for 12.04
[17:49] <holstein> live
[17:50] <astraljava> I'm pretty sure we can get it done.
[17:50] <astraljava> But I'll know more in 24h.
[17:51] <holstein> astraljava: lets talk then... ill totally bother someone
[17:51] <holstein> or test whatever
[17:52] <astraljava> We will need tons of testing, so that'd be good if you could spare some time for that.
[17:53] <holstein> astraljava: i'll make time
[17:53] <holstein> and free up boxes
[17:54] <holstein> virtualboxes.. metal
[17:54] <holstein> whatever
[17:54] <astraljava> Good to hear. Obviously I can do quite a lot as well, but we need different setups for sure.
[17:54] <holstein> astraljava: what about the look and feel?
[17:54] <astraljava> You should talk to Scott about that.
[17:54] <holstein> i think falk could really knock that out in a short amount of time
[17:54] <astraljava> I'm not a UX person at all.
[17:55] <astraljava> Yeah that would be good too.
[20:39] <ScottL> abogani, i'm having trouble getting the proper source for the lowlatency kernel
[20:39] <ScottL> i thought it was me, because i don't understand the relationship between linux-lowlatency and linux-meta-lowlatency
[20:40] <ScottL> but i'm not sure now
[20:41] <ScottL> i installed a brand new precise install and tried to get the lowlatency source but i keep getting the linux-meta-lowlatency-3.2.0.8.8
[20:41] <ScottL> instead of 3.2.0.8.15
[20:41] <ScottL> and i can't find myself as maintainer in the 3.2.0.8.8 (although i'm not worried about that as much as using it as a qualifier to make sure i had the correct version since you grep'ed it)