=== `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === go87651 is now known as go8765__ [02:09] Lets say i have a xubuntu box here, how would i host a website out of it. [02:09] is there a specific list of packages to install. [02:09] Sebastien: apache is one way [02:09] or some built in programs. [02:09] its not easy to configure :/ [02:09] !lamp [02:09] LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+) [02:09] Sebastien: i would say, look at these... http://www.turnkeylinux.org/lampstack [02:10] you can run those live, and at least learn how to set things up [02:10] running one of those in virtualbox is easy, assuming you have the resources [02:19] i wanna host this on my old laptop i used to make a small 80gb space home server with 2gb ram and an aditional 1TB going on there next week [03:00] !DigiNotar [03:00] !mint [03:00] Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org [03:01] !modprobe [03:01] !debian [03:01] Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/what-is-debian.html - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu! [03:01] metasansana, query the bot in private please [03:01] oh sorry [03:04] np [03:55] Hello, everyone. newbie Xubuntu user here with some minor questions for you [03:55] >.< Well, that went over well XD [03:55] Anyone here? [03:59] I guess not... [03:59] Perhaps someone can help me fix my sound? === m00se is now known as I_SCREAM_IN_ALL_ === I_SCREAM_IN_ALL_ is now known as m00se [05:17] no volume control after a reboot. [05:43] Marzata: would xfce4-panel --restart hrlp? [05:43] help* [06:34] Does anyone have any problems changing their screen brightness on a laptop? [06:38] mukti: hm, haven't tried it myself up to now... but now that i did try using the function-key combo... it didn't work. heh. [07:16] nanotube: I'm actually running Archlinux with xfce, so I came here to see if anyone had a fix for this [07:19] running xubuntu here, but no idea if the brightness keys worked under gnome... next time i find myself rebooting, i'll make sure to log into a gnome session and check brightness keys for functionality.... [07:21] xfce4-power-manager-plugins <- mukti try also this package. it is reputed to have a brightness-changing panel applet [07:21] This was recently asked on #Ubuntu, I'm curous about it too. Is there any way inside of XFCE to set a systemwide default sound device? [07:21] curious [09:26] HELLO [09:27] no need to shout ;) [09:27] lol....sorry [09:27] :) [09:27] my wireless is not working [09:27] just installed this great OS. I would like my wireless to work [09:28] if someone who knows how is around they'll help - I seem to have magic hardware that just works [09:28] wish i had that [09:28] I'd try though first to look in Settings - Additional Drivers see if there si something recognised [09:29] nothing there [09:30] also open a terminal from accessories and run lspci - then paste it to pastebin - give the new url you get [09:30] !paste [09:30] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [09:31] if you do that I can help you at least try and find some resources to look at [09:34] va bene installare xubuntu su un windows xp home edition 1.80 ghz e 30 gb HD e 512 ram? [09:35] http://paste.ubuntu.com/804924/ [09:35] levar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [09:37] thank you will try it [09:39] levar: hope it sorts you out [10:32] no volune control after restart. any idea? [10:32] even xfce4-panel --restarrted [10:34] Hi, today, after a long time of not using Linux I decided to install xubuntu. I however am having issues with the installation ... for some reason, when I select "Install xubuntu" it gives me the loading bar and then, after a long time of waiting I end up on the login screen (I'm thinking this is the demo), there's no setup at all, could someone help me out? [10:36] when I look at the log (f1) it starts out with "chroot: can't execute '/usr/lib/user-setup/user-setup-apply': input/output error", I'm not sure what I can do to get it installed ... === sudden-moves is now known as suddenmoves [11:21] gener8, Have you installed xubuntu after all? [11:22] nope, creating a bootable usb with xubuntu on it as we speak [11:22] I just don't know what the issue is tbh, I just grabbed an official iso, burned it to cd, ran it on my machine and it just didn't want to work :s [11:23] so I'm trying the usb now, if that doesn't work I'm going to try i386 (amd64 now) [11:27] hm... I installed xubuntu as a package 'xubuntu-desktop' on my job place. And as pure 'xubutu' at home. At home I have 386 architecture and at job place amd64. [11:28] gener8, Did you check md5 of the ISO you had downloaded? It can be a reason of fail installation. I remember such situations. They were here === bevan is now known as NQTropic [11:53] * NQTropic wonders what distro Linux runs xfce on [11:53] *Linus [12:12] Besogon: I didn't no ... I just downloaded the iso through torrent, never really had to look at md5 for linux before? [12:12] linux isos* [12:14] if you got it from a torrent it should be ok [12:14] I am going to try the usb solution in a sec, I remember some issues in the past (not even linux-related) where the OS in which the disk was burned was the source of the issue [12:14] (I burned it on Win7) [12:15] so hopefully that can be avoided with USB install [12:15] Are you installing it at the moment? [12:16] cause it's long since you first post :) [12:16] in 2mins I will be [12:16] (hopefully) [12:22] hehe well it didn't start off with an error this time atleast [12:22] I think that did the trick [12:23] bah, last time I'm ever wasting a cd on linux installs, from now on only usb :p === Pieman is now known as Paimun [13:39] hmm for some reason my grub dual boot isn't showing, windows is getting launched automatically. Isn't the grub launcher supposed to show up after you've installed xubuntu alongside windows? [13:39] what's the xubuntu desktop settings command? I disabled icons on the desktop and now nothing happens when I right click the desktop so I can't get the settings to put the icons back [13:40] xfce4-settings [13:41] gener8 windows overwrites it [13:51] I removed some of the themes from xubuntu, old ugly ones (imo) like murrine-* and xfce-* , I only really use a couple and after I removed a few I noticed on the right click context menu for a file/folder the create archive icon was missing. I guess I removed a theme that had it, anyone know? [14:32] hello [14:33] anyone active here? [14:33] I would need some help configuring emerald [14:33] gimme 10mins. [14:34] ok === moylan1 is now known as moylan [14:42] back [14:42] wb [14:42] so can you help pls? [14:43] what is the problem [14:44] i installed compiz and emerald on xubuntu 11.10 [14:44] and can't reorganize the window button order [14:45] how did you install emerald, its not in the repo anymore. I guess you compiled it [14:45] in the theme settings, the titlebar tab [14:46] installed form DEB file [14:46] where from? [14:47] http://it-diary.com/tutorials/install-compiz-emerald-xubuntu-11-10/ [14:47] from here [14:48] an older version.. I compiled mine, works fine [14:50] remove the one and compile 0.9.4 [14:50] sudo apt-get install git autoconf libtool libwnck1.0-cil-dev libwnck-dev intltool libdecoration0-dev you need these first. [14:51] wget http://cgit.compiz.org/fusion/decorators/emerald/snapshot/emerald-0.9.4.tar.gz [14:51] tar -xf emerald-0.9.4.tar.gz [14:51] cd emerald-0.9.4 [14:51] ./autogen.sh && make clean && make distclean && ./configure --prefix=/usr && make && sudo make install [14:53] ok thx im installing now [14:55] why on earth would someone install emerald? [14:55] because I can't set the theme from Compiz [14:55] it's possible that I'm noob though [14:56] well then again I struggle to understand why anyone would install compiz to xubuntu, too [14:56] why not. [14:56] because it's nice [14:57] I love wobbly windows [14:57] I dont use xfce because its xfce, I use it because its as close to gnome2 as I had before :) [14:57] and other eyecandies [15:01] it still don't work [15:01] :_( [15:01] Myrtti: I know what you mean - but I never bothered with compiz when I was using gnome either ;) [15:02] Emerald Theme Manager -> Edit Themes -> Titlebar -> Title-bar object layout [15:02] hobgoblin: I just figured I got all the functionality compiz added by other means in xfce [15:02] I wanna set C(7)R(7)N:T:(46)M but when i paste in there it quits [15:03] Myrtti: never used any of the things I could have been using with compiz - devilspie and some kbd shortcuts did what I wanted - devilspie and mouse to next workspce does it here [15:03] but I'm a simple country boy :) [15:04] csenger41, dont paste it, type it. [15:04] C(3)N(3)X(3):T [15:04] mongy: when I type the first letter in, it quits again [15:04] I set mine to. [15:05] you want the errorcode? [15:05] did you remove the old versions you installed? [15:05] have you restarted it ? [15:06] yup restarted [15:06] what theme is it [15:07] no didn't removed [15:07] I'll try to replicate it [15:07] simply greybird [15:08] got a link? [15:08] what link? [15:08] you should have removed the debs you installed first... [15:10] ok removing now in Ubuntu Software Center [15:12] removed, reinstalling [15:14] no, still not good, quitting [15:14] any other idea? [15:16] the errorcode after quitting in terminal is: [15:16] (emerald-theme-manager:26702): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_key_file_set_string: assertion `string != NULL' failed [15:17] compiz¿? [15:17] yup [15:17] I need help in emerald [15:18] have you read this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/58002/how-do-i-enable-compiz-in-xubuntu [15:19] compiz is working fine so far [15:19] I can't set the theme in simply compiz [15:19] so installed emerald too and can't set the window button order [15:21] gimme a link to your theme [15:21] greybird [15:21] the default one in Xubuntu 11.10 [15:21] I didn't download it [15:22] its not in emerald [15:22] it is [15:22] csenger41, read the link i passed you [15:22] emeral wont work [15:22] GridCube, works for me. [15:22] usr/share/themes/greybird [15:22] that's not an emerald theme [15:23] oh well, sorry then [15:23] there is a Greybird.emerald file in there [15:23] ah [15:23] I never even knew that existed dude [15:23] lol [15:23] ok i'll try [15:23] I imported it from Emerald Theme Manager [15:23] there is one on gnome-look also [15:24] it might be the theme making it not work, or might be a bad emerald. [15:25] GridCube: there is no solution on that link [15:25] I just pasted your button order, worked [15:27] you read the errorcode? [15:27] remove and start again.. sudo make uninstall from the source folder [15:27] rm .emerald -rf as well [15:28] all I can say is, it works over here. [15:28] I gotta get ready for work :( [15:28] csenger41, :) ochosi here is the one who made greybird, he might be able to help you [15:29] so what's the problem exactly? [15:29] I installed Compiz and Emerald on Xubuntu 11.10 [15:30] and can't set the window button order in Emerald Theme Manager [15:30] because as soon as I try to do it the emerald quits [15:31] csenger41: well, i can't help you with that [15:31] emerald hasn't been maintained for ages [15:31] so if something like that happens there isn't much you can do i'm afraid [15:31] then how can I set the greybird theme in Compiz? [15:31] you can use the default compiz decorator and use greybird [15:31] how? [15:31] you have to set a gconf-variable [15:32] either via gconf-editor or maybe there's also a straight command for that [15:32] straight==direct(cli) [15:32] ochosi, he installed 0.8.8 debs from some site, then I advised compiling 0.9.4 from source, the same as I use without problems, he never removed the older debs before hand, so it's got a little messy I think. [15:32] which is the one Wi-Fi Mini PCI card that works best with Xubuntu? [15:33] now I removed the old version and reinstalled [15:34] mongy: possible yeah. but still it's possible that reordering the buttons in a theme doesn't work too well with the emerald theme editor... [15:34] how to set greybird in compiz? [15:34] csenger41: google is your friend, e.g. this turned up when i searched: "change the value of apps > metacity > general > theme gconf key" [15:34] ochosi, I reorder the one I use, and I also tried the theme he's using and it works fine. [15:34] ochosi, so i guess it all points back to his install of emerald. [15:34] mongy: well still, emerald is unmaintained and always has been a bit too buggy/unstable for my taste :) [15:35] mongy: but anyway, yeah, it might also be his installation [15:35] who knows... [15:35] csenger41, are you 32 or 64bit? [15:35] csenger41: or use the command line: "gconftool-2 -- type string --set /apps/metacity/general/theme greybird" [15:36] ochosi: already changed that, now trying to figure out restore original window decorator [15:36] 32bit [15:36] oops, there is a space too much there in the command line [15:36] csenger41: what do you mean by "original window decorator". xfwm4? [15:36] (if yes, alt+f2 > "xfwm4 --replace") [15:37] if i restore it, compiz is gone [15:37] csenger41, to use a metacity window theme with compiz, install compiz-gnome and do 'gtk-window-decorator --replace --metacity-theme=greybird or whatever theme. [15:38] I tried it once with ambiance, just needed the titlebar font adjusting with tweak tool. [15:39] sry internet died [15:39] mongy: ok ill try [15:39] csenger41, to use a metacity window theme with compiz, install compiz-gnome and do 'gtk-window-decorator --replace --metacity-theme=greybird or whatever theme. [15:40] i'm off for today [15:40] bye [15:40] csenger41, when I get chance I will make a deb for emerald if you like. just try and remove everything you have for emerald already, even the .emerald folder in your home. [15:44] mongy: great, ur command is working great [15:46] cool [16:00] I removed the lovely bottom panel/launcher (Xubuntu 11.10) some time ago. I'd like it back. HALP? [16:01] left click on the remaining panel [16:01] panel -> panel preferences [16:02] then click on the green + [16:02] I've tried that but it only adds a "regular" panel. [16:02] Not the neat-o launcher. [16:03] thats a simple panel with autohide and a bunch of launchers [16:03] and transparency [16:03] you can't undo but create another one with same options [16:03] yup [16:04] Oh? Okay. Thanks. I'll see what I can do. [16:04] its size was 36 pixels i think or 42 [16:04] not sure [16:04] Right-o. [16:04] I'll play around with it. [16:04] k good luck :3 [16:05] knome: can you kick someone? [16:05] csenger_, huh? [16:06] knome: just asking [16:06] yes, i am an op [16:06] Know how I can center the launchers on the bottom panel? [16:06] likemindead, you need to add spacing elements [16:06] How do? [16:06] panel preferences -> items [16:06] likemindead, like adding any other panel items [16:06] and the green button [16:06] + [16:07] they are called separators [16:07] Added a separator at each end, but everything's still on the left. [16:08] you need to tweak the prefences [16:08] they need to expand [16:08] Ah. Thanks! [16:08] u want the launchers to be in the middle? [16:08] Yup. got it. [16:08] I flipping love Xubuntu. [16:08] k great [16:08] me2 :3 [16:09] easpecially with wobbly windows [16:09] csenger_, those make me sick [16:09] knome: ahaha [16:09] csenger_, i'm not even using the xfce compositor [16:10] No Compiz for me. My Lenovo 3000 N100 circa 2006 does a lot better without eye candy. [16:10] knome: I like eyecandies [16:10] i like being productive :) [16:10] the eyecandy stuff is nice for presenting linux for newcomers, but i wouldn't use them in any production machine [16:11] :P [16:11] because sadly, eyecandy is what attracts people.. [16:11] not how *well* something works [16:11] Hence the rise of OS X (i.e. Fisher Price For Grown Ups). [16:12] knome: computers now far beyond being just productive not only nice [16:12] every eyecandy effect takes some time off the time you are able to work on stuff [16:13] knome: no if its well set [16:13] knome, most people just works on using the internet [16:13] * GridCube thinks this all is offtopic [16:13] GridCube, most people yes, but if you're actually *working on computers*, you are not [16:13] maybe ;) [16:14] knome: why, what are you working on computer? [16:14] csenger_, :D please go to #xubuntu-offtopic [16:14] csenger_, agreed with GridCube join us [18:21] ok I am having some issues with my linux, trying to fix them in recovery with netroot but I can't resolve ubuntu.com, what am I supposed to do now? [18:22] (in other words, I am trying to reinstall certain packages but my netroot won't let me because apparently it isn't connected to the net) [18:23] you could elaborate as to what the main issue is.. maybe some one will have a 'big picture' suggestion [18:23] ok so I installed xubuntu again today, but I was trying to make it dual screen, which wasn't working because I was missing ATI drivers (4800 series) [18:24] if this is a recently reinstalled OS, i wouldnt waste too much time 'rescuing' it [18:25] so I installed them, then tried accessing them with administrative priviliges, had to change my catalyst file (usr/share/fglrx/amdccclesu.desktop) [18:25] then logged out [18:25] and bam, GUI was gone after that [18:25] you should be able to remove whatever drivers you installed, or create a custom xorg.conf with the vesa driver or some other tricks from the recovery console [18:26] well I am not an expert in this, first time I had to do such a thing, so it's not easy for me atm [18:26] but yeah, working with recovery console, trying to remove the fglrx crap alltogether and starting fresh ... only issue is [18:27] whenever I do an apt-get install for a new driver package it says ubuntu.com is unresolved, while I am working on netroot [18:27] so I don't really get what's causing that [18:27] you shouldnt need internet to remove the package [18:27] nor force the vesa driver [18:28] well removing the package is done [18:28] it's the installing, don't really know how to install the vesa driver though? Maybe that will get me back into the GUI atleast [18:28] rover10: the vesa driver is there [18:28] you can just make a custom xorg.conf to use it [18:29] you might be able to run the graphics restore or whatever it is in the recovery area [18:30] haven't found anything like it, first time I have to do something like this :p [18:30] but I'm readin how I can make it work [18:30] rover10: i have done that before, and literally just reinstalled [18:31] not that you should do that.. but still, no reason to burn up time about it [18:31] nah you're probably right, nothing major was installed yet [18:31] oh [18:31] you might take this time to try some extreme measures to test [18:31] my graphics are back! [18:31] dont get caught up on the network access [18:31] that shouldnt matter, and you dont need it [18:32] well, it is the default graphics, but I'm back in business atleast :) I'm guessing just cleaning up the ATI stuff was enough to make it fall back on default [18:34] Well now that I am at it, what's the best way these days to create an extended dual screen set-up? I was trying to do it through catalyst control center but that kind of failed [18:35] rover10: best is a matter of opinion [18:35] i use arandr [18:35] still? that's what I used to to 4 years ago [18:35] ok, arandr it is, atleast I know how that works [18:38] theres an included tool, but i can only do mirroring with it [18:38] not to imply "only mirroring can be done with it" [19:00] hi [19:01] is it possible to use thunar to mount usb cameras automatically? [19:01] or can you only do it in external programs like gtkam [19:02] im not sure about that... i think it depends on how the device works.. if it shows up as a hard drive or if you have to 'extract' the information [19:03] its a USB PTP camera [19:03] it works under gtkam [19:03] or gphoto2 [19:03] Joshun: right... im not going to know what that is.. all i can relate it to is an mp3 player.. some show up as hard drives, some dont exactly work that way [19:04] you have to "sync" them [19:04] is it possible to get thunar to open it when it is plugged in [19:04] cool [19:04] you just dont want to click on it? to mount it? [19:04] it doesn't appear like a normal drive [19:05] it isn't even shown [19:05] gvfs is installed and everything [19:05] Joshun: OH.. i mis-read [19:05] it *doesnt* show up [19:05] When I plug in the camera, thunar pops open at the camers mount point [19:05] right... on some mp3 players, i saw ways to swith that, to make them show up [19:05] hello everyone [19:06] if you can do that, then the device is not intended to me mounted like that... like a hard drive [19:06] ^^ if you cant* [19:06] @Unit193 - what packages did you install for that to happen [19:06] or does it do it on a fresh install? [19:06] theres no packages... its just different [19:06] anyone could tell me how are these compiz, gnome, gtk and others things are? [19:06] csenger41: sure.. they are mostly not in xubuntu [19:07] I have some general knowledge, but it's a little bit messed up [19:07] Joshun: Well, not even close to a fresh install, but I either had it already, or installed it already [19:07] go to offtopic? [19:07] csenger41: sure... [19:07] csenger41: Just try a live CD of each one [19:08] did you use gvfs to open it [19:08] or did it do it automatically [19:08] Joshun: if its mountable, it just shows up [19:08] you can run sudo fdisk -l [19:08] i dont even think you'll see it there [19:08] it doesn't show up there [19:08] its not a mass storage device [19:09] its a PTP device [19:09] nautilus opens it [19:09] but thunar doesnt [19:09] interesting [19:09] holstein: I'm in offtopic [19:10] i can use thunar-volman-settings to set a program to open it with [19:10] Different camera [19:10] bit it doesn't open with thunar itself [19:12] yeah, im not familiar with whats happening with nautilus these days, but i say, use it [19:13] by the time you trick thunar out to be like it, the speed is probably not an issue anymore [19:13] i've found a way to do it manually [19:13] in thunar [19:13] if you do control L [19:13] and then put in [19:13] gphoto2://[usb:$CAMPORT] [19:14] where usb and camport are ids [19:14] cool... maybe you can script that... you are way more of a professional at it than i am [19:16] for mine i can do [19:16] gphoto2://[usb:001,007]/ [19:16] but the id changes every time [19:17] maybe thunar just doesn't have automatic ptp support [19:17] i'll just use gtkam for now [19:17] thanks anyway though [19:18] id hit the mailing list with that [19:18] yeah i might [20:37] Hi All. I recently installed Xubuntu 11.10 and I am having trouble synchronizing my Tomboy notes with my Ubuntu One account. I used to use Ubuntu 11.04 and I had no trouble synchronizing my Tomboy notes with Ubuntu one. However, when I got a new computer and started using Xubuntu 11.10, I was unable to retrieve most of my notes from the server to my local hard drive. My Ubuntu One account has all my notes (about 67 of them), but onl [20:37] y about 18 find their way to my laptop. I set up the synchronizing function using the preferences menu and I get a confirmation message that the set-up was successful. However, when I try to have Tomboy synchronize the notes, I get a "Failed to Synchronize" error message. The details window below the message only lists the messages that were successfully synchronized (those 18), nothing else. Does anybody know a workaround? Being a [20:37] ble to synch is very important for my academic work. Thanks a lot for your time! [20:40] joao: check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/71733/tomboy-notes-failed-to-synchronize [20:40] might be a bug, and not XFCE related [20:44] on a different note, if it's for academic work have a look at http://www.zotero.org [20:49] Hi Holstein, thanks for the link, but I followed the user's procedure and it didn't work for me. And you are right, it seems to be affecting everyone, not just xfce users. Do you know if I should direct my question to another channel? [20:49] joao: thats what im proposing... not sure if im 'right' [20:50] i dont use tomboy... im just saying, i see errors *not* relating to XFCE, and its not like its not working for you... its not "syncing" [20:50] wont hurt to ask and search around a bit [20:57] sure, I'll do that. Thanks for the help. Thanks TVasEyes, I will give Zotero another try - haven't used it in a long time, but it might be just what I need. See you guys! [21:43] is it possible to share a video file via ubuntu one or you need an extra paid account? [21:44] Marzata: i though you could get a link like in dropbox... right click and share a link? [21:45] i thought there was a public area last time i looked [21:46] well, same as I thought but it turned to be not quite like this [21:50] Marzata: http://ubuntuone.com/4Ri7GvVJL7WyAdOoEp2Fwi [21:50] this is from mine [21:50] i havent had it installed in ages... i just logged in to the webUI and clicked "more options" and "published" the file [21:52] holstein: img is ok, video was not that [21:52] ? [21:52] zip it up then [21:52] name it whatever.whatever [21:52] holstein: that might be a way [21:52] i would expect the other person to download it [21:52] not just play in the browser necessarily [21:53] holstein: you never know what the other side is doing [21:54] Marzata: right.. tell them [21:54] or use dropbox [21:54] i wouldnt expect to "host" files like we can in dropbox [22:21] Hi all. I can;t seem to find a link for a 64 bit xubuntu other than the one for amd processors. For intel is it the i386 download? [22:22] its the same as amd [22:23] oh ok [22:23] unless you have IA64 it maybe be different [22:23] rlmccormick, i386 is 32bit an amd64 is 64bit [22:23] i guess i got confused by the name and thought amd64 must be for amd processors only [22:24] thx [22:24] rlmccormick, I believe it's down to amd being the first to make 64bit, or something [22:24] rlmccormick, I agree, it should be changed [22:25] thanks for the info [22:26] is there any reason i shouldn't use the 64 bit version? [22:27] i have >4GB of RAM [22:27] I have crunchbang, ubuntu and xubuntu torrents serving, and crunchbang and xubuntu are always active.. :) [22:27] rlmccormick, 64bit is only benefical for more than 3.3gb ram [22:28] even then, i386 with a pae kernel can see more than 4gb. (is it 8 or 16gb) [22:28] rlmccormick, if you cpu supports it, go with it. [22:29] i just installed the 32bit version and it seems to think i have less than 4GB of ram [22:29] using free -m [22:29] rlmccormick, you need the pae kernel then. [22:30] apt-get install linux-headers-3.0.0-14-generic-pae linux-image-3.0.0-14-generic-pae [22:30] kk, at the moment it looks like the kernel is being downloading but it is not the pae version [22:32] linux-generic-pae then [22:32] i'll do that after this update is done, the update is coming down extremely slow for some reason [22:33] should work either way [22:34] ah ok, so the update just queues up? [22:34] is it too much trouble to install fresh amd64? [22:34] it's not too much trouble. i just finished with the 32 bit version so i have no data on this machine yet [22:35] I say go 64 [22:35] i'm actually downloading the 64 bit version now to burn it to a CD so i can install it [22:35] 64 64 64 64! [22:35] hmm, calm down lads [22:35] i just built this machine last night, finally getting around to getting the OS on it [22:37] is there any chance that the 64 bit version has less hardware compatibility? Are the drivers the same for both 32 bit and 64 bit? [22:37] same hw compatibility [22:38] 64bot used to be a slight problem, but only for certain apps. You are good to go now [22:38] bit* [22:38] used, like 4 years ago... :) [22:39] lol well it's been a while so i guess i have old memories of 64 bit issues [22:39] used, as in the past :) [23:47] Hi guys, I have an issue with video playback in Xubuntu 11.10, hopefully someone could help me out