[02:09] <Sebastien> Lets say i have a xubuntu box here, how would i host a website out of it.
[02:09] <Sebastien> is there a specific list of packages to install.
[02:09] <holstein> Sebastien: apache is one way
[02:09] <Sebastien> or some built in programs.
[02:09] <Sebastien> its not easy to configure :/
[02:09] <GridCube> !lamp
[02:09] <holstein> Sebastien: i would say, look at these... http://www.turnkeylinux.org/lampstack
[02:10] <holstein> you can run those live, and at least learn how to set things up
[02:10] <holstein> running one of those in virtualbox is easy, assuming you have the resources
[02:19] <Sebastien> i wanna host this on my old laptop i used to make a small 80gb space home server with 2gb ram and an aditional 1TB going on there next week
[03:00] <metasansana> !DigiNotar
[03:00] <metasansana> !mint
[03:01] <metasansana> !modprobe
[03:01] <metasansana> !debian
[03:01] <GridCube> metasansana, query the bot in private please
[03:01] <metasansana> oh sorry
[03:04] <GridCube> np
[03:55] <DarkFeather> Hello, everyone. newbie Xubuntu user here with some minor questions for you
[03:55] <DarkFeather> >.< Well, that went over well XD
[03:55] <DarkFeather> Anyone here?
[03:59] <DarkFeather> I guess not...
[03:59] <DarkFeather> Perhaps someone can help me fix my sound?
[05:17] <Marzata> no volume control after a reboot.
[05:43] <TVasEyes> Marzata: would xfce4-panel --restart hrlp?
[05:43] <TVasEyes> help*
[06:34] <mukti> Does anyone have any problems changing their screen brightness on a laptop?
[06:38] <nanotube> mukti: hm, haven't tried it myself up to now... but now that i did try using the function-key combo... it didn't work. heh.
[07:16] <mukti> nanotube: I'm actually running Archlinux with xfce, so I came here to see if anyone had a fix for this
[07:19] <nanotube> running xubuntu here, but no idea if the brightness keys worked under gnome... next time i find myself rebooting, i'll make sure to log into a gnome session and check brightness keys for functionality....
[07:21] <nanotube> xfce4-power-manager-plugins <- mukti try also this package. it is reputed to have a brightness-changing panel applet
[07:21] <n2diy> This was recently asked on #Ubuntu, I'm curous about it too. <Connor1> Is there any way inside of XFCE to set a systemwide default sound device?
[07:21] <n2diy> curious
[09:26] <levar> HELLO
[09:27] <hobgoblin> no need to shout ;)
[09:27] <levar> lol....sorry
[09:27] <hobgoblin> :)
[09:27] <levar> my wireless is not working
[09:27] <levar> just installed this great OS. I would like my wireless to work
[09:28] <hobgoblin> if someone who knows how is around they'll help - I seem to have magic hardware that just works
[09:28] <levar> wish i had that
[09:28] <hobgoblin> I'd try though first to look in Settings - Additional Drivers see if there si something recognised
[09:29] <levar> nothing there
[09:30] <hobgoblin> also open a terminal from accessories and run lspci - then paste it to pastebin - give the new url you get
[09:30] <hobgoblin> !paste
[09:31] <hobgoblin> if you do that I can help you at least try and find some resources to look at
[09:34] <moreno> va bene installare xubuntu su un windows xp home edition 1.80 ghz e 30 gb HD e 512 ram?
[09:35] <levar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/804924/
[09:35] <hobgoblin> levar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[09:37] <levar> thank you will try it
[09:39] <hobgoblin> levar: hope it sorts you out
[10:32] <Marzata> no volune control after restart. any idea?
[10:32] <Marzata> even xfce4-panel --restarrted
[10:34] <gener8> Hi, today, after a long time of not using Linux I decided to install xubuntu. I however am having issues with the installation ... for some reason, when I select "Install xubuntu" it gives me the loading bar and then, after a long time of waiting I end up on the login screen (I'm thinking this is the demo), there's no setup at all, could someone help me out?
[10:36] <gener8> when I look at the log (f1) it starts out with "chroot: can't execute '/usr/lib/user-setup/user-setup-apply': input/output error", I'm not sure what I can do to get it installed ...
[11:21] <Besogon> gener8, Have you installed xubuntu after all?
[11:22] <gener8> nope, creating a bootable usb with xubuntu on it as we speak
[11:22] <gener8> I just don't know what the issue is tbh, I just grabbed an official iso, burned it to cd, ran it on my machine and it just didn't want to work :s
[11:23] <gener8> so I'm trying the usb now, if that doesn't work I'm going to try i386 (amd64 now)
[11:27] <Besogon> hm... I installed xubuntu as a package 'xubuntu-desktop' on my job place. And as pure 'xubutu' at home. At home I have 386 architecture and at job place amd64.
[11:28] <Besogon> gener8, Did you check md5 of the ISO you had downloaded? It can be a reason of fail installation. I remember such situations. They were here
[11:53]  * NQTropic wonders what distro Linux runs xfce on
[11:53] <NQTropic> *Linus
[12:12] <gener8> Besogon: I didn't no ... I just downloaded the iso through torrent, never really had to look at md5 for linux before?
[12:12] <gener8> linux isos*
[12:14] <hobgoblin> if you got it from a torrent it should be ok
[12:14] <gener8> I am going to try the usb solution in a sec, I remember some issues in the past (not even linux-related) where the OS in which the disk was burned was the source of the issue
[12:14] <gener8> (I burned it on Win7)
[12:15] <gener8> so hopefully that can be avoided with USB install
[12:15] <Besogon> Are you installing it at the moment?
[12:16] <Besogon> cause it's long since you first post :)
[12:16] <gener8> in 2mins I will be
[12:16] <gener8> (hopefully)
[12:22] <gener8> hehe well it didn't start off with an error this time atleast
[12:22] <gener8> I think that did the trick
[12:23] <gener8> bah, last time I'm ever wasting a cd on linux installs, from now on only usb :p
[13:39] <gener8> hmm for some reason my grub dual boot isn't showing, windows is getting launched automatically. Isn't the grub launcher supposed to show up after you've installed xubuntu alongside windows?
[13:39] <andai> what's the xubuntu desktop settings command? I disabled icons on the desktop and now nothing happens when I right click the desktop so I can't get the settings to put the icons back
[13:40] <TheSheep> xfce4-settings
[13:41] <TheSheep> gener8 windows overwrites it
[13:51] <mongy> I removed some of the themes from xubuntu, old ugly ones (imo) like murrine-* and xfce-* , I only really use a couple and after I removed a few I noticed on the right click context menu for a file/folder the create archive icon was missing.  I guess I removed a theme that had it, anyone know?
[14:32] <csenger41> hello
[14:33] <csenger41> anyone active here?
[14:33] <csenger41> I would need some help configuring emerald
[14:33] <mongy> gimme 10mins.
[14:34] <csenger41> ok
[14:42] <mongy> back
[14:42] <csenger41> wb
[14:42] <csenger41> so can you help pls?
[14:43] <mongy> what is the problem
[14:44] <csenger41> i installed compiz and emerald on xubuntu 11.10
[14:44] <csenger41> and can't reorganize the window button order
[14:45] <mongy> how did you install emerald, its not in the repo anymore.  I guess you compiled it
[14:45] <mongy> in the theme settings, the titlebar tab
[14:46] <csenger41> installed form DEB file
[14:46] <mongy> where from?
[14:47] <csenger41> http://it-diary.com/tutorials/install-compiz-emerald-xubuntu-11-10/
[14:47] <csenger41> from here
[14:48] <mongy> an older version..  I compiled mine, works fine
[14:50] <mongy> remove the one and compile 0.9.4
[14:50] <mongy> sudo apt-get install git autoconf libtool libwnck1.0-cil-dev libwnck-dev intltool libdecoration0-dev      you need these first.
[14:51] <mongy> wget http://cgit.compiz.org/fusion/decorators/emerald/snapshot/emerald-0.9.4.tar.gz
[14:51] <mongy> tar -xf emerald-0.9.4.tar.gz
[14:51] <mongy> cd emerald-0.9.4
[14:51] <mongy> ./autogen.sh && make clean && make distclean && ./configure --prefix=/usr && make && sudo make install
[14:53] <csenger41> ok thx im installing now
[14:55] <Myrtti> why on earth would someone install emerald?
[14:55] <csenger41> because I can't set the theme from Compiz
[14:55] <csenger41> it's possible that I'm noob though
[14:56] <Myrtti> well then again I struggle to understand why anyone would install compiz to xubuntu, too
[14:56] <mongy> why not.
[14:56] <csenger41> because it's nice
[14:57] <csenger41> I love wobbly windows
[14:57] <mongy> I dont use xfce because its xfce, I use it because its as close to gnome2 as I had before :)
[14:57] <csenger41> and other eyecandies
[15:01] <csenger41> it still don't work
[15:01] <csenger41> :_(
[15:01] <hobgoblin> Myrtti: I know what you mean - but I never bothered with compiz when I was using gnome either ;)
[15:02] <csenger41> Emerald Theme Manager ->  Edit Themes -> Titlebar -> Title-bar object layout
[15:02] <Myrtti> hobgoblin: I just figured I got all the functionality compiz added by other means in xfce
[15:02] <csenger41> I wanna set C(7)R(7)N:T:(46)M but when i paste in there it quits
[15:03] <hobgoblin> Myrtti: never used any of the things I could have been using with compiz - devilspie and some kbd shortcuts did what I wanted - devilspie and mouse to next workspce does it here
[15:03] <hobgoblin> but I'm a simple country boy :)
[15:04] <mongy> csenger41, dont paste it, type it.
[15:04] <mongy> C(3)N(3)X(3):T
[15:04] <csenger41> mongy: when I type the first letter in, it quits again
[15:04] <mongy> I set mine to.
[15:05] <csenger41> you want the errorcode?
[15:05] <mongy> did you remove the old versions you installed?
[15:05] <mongy> have you restarted it ?
[15:06] <csenger41> yup restarted
[15:06] <mongy> what theme is it
[15:07] <csenger41> no didn't removed
[15:07] <mongy> I'll try to replicate it
[15:07] <csenger41> simply greybird
[15:08] <mongy> got a link?
[15:08] <csenger41> what link?
[15:08] <mongy> you should have removed the debs you installed first...
[15:10] <csenger41> ok removing now in Ubuntu Software Center
[15:12] <csenger41> removed, reinstalling
[15:14] <csenger41> no, still not good, quitting
[15:14] <csenger41> any other idea?
[15:16] <csenger41> the errorcode after quitting in terminal is:
[15:16] <csenger41> (emerald-theme-manager:26702): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_key_file_set_string: assertion `string != NULL' failed
[15:17] <GridCube> compiz¿?
[15:17] <csenger41> yup
[15:17] <csenger41> I need help in emerald
[15:18] <GridCube> have you read this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/58002/how-do-i-enable-compiz-in-xubuntu
[15:19] <csenger41> compiz is working fine so far
[15:19] <csenger41> I can't set the theme in simply compiz
[15:19] <csenger41> so installed emerald too and can't set the window button order
[15:21] <mongy> gimme a link to your theme
[15:21] <csenger41> greybird
[15:21] <csenger41> the default one in Xubuntu 11.10
[15:21] <csenger41> I didn't download it
[15:22] <mongy> its not in emerald
[15:22] <csenger41> it is
[15:22] <GridCube> csenger41, read the link i passed you
[15:22] <GridCube> emeral wont work
[15:22] <mongy> GridCube, works for me.
[15:22] <csenger41> usr/share/themes/greybird
[15:22] <mongy> that's not an emerald theme
[15:23] <GridCube> oh well, sorry then
[15:23] <csenger41> there is a Greybird.emerald file in there
[15:23] <mongy> ah
[15:23] <mongy> I never even knew that existed dude
[15:23] <mongy> lol
[15:23] <mongy> ok i'll try
[15:23] <csenger41> I imported it from Emerald Theme Manager
[15:23] <mongy> there is one on gnome-look also
[15:24] <mongy> it might be the theme making it not work, or might be a bad emerald.
[15:25] <csenger41> GridCube: there is no solution on that link
[15:25] <mongy> I just pasted your button order, worked
[15:27] <csenger41> you read the errorcode?
[15:27] <mongy> remove and start again..  sudo make uninstall from the source folder
[15:27] <mongy> rm .emerald -rf as well
[15:28] <mongy> all I can say is, it works over here.
[15:28] <mongy> I gotta get ready for work :(
[15:28] <GridCube> csenger41, :) ochosi here is the one who made greybird, he might be able to help you
[15:29] <ochosi> so what's the problem exactly?
[15:29] <csenger41> I installed Compiz and Emerald on Xubuntu 11.10
[15:30] <csenger41> and can't set the window button order in Emerald Theme Manager
[15:30] <csenger41> because as soon as I try to do it the emerald quits
[15:31] <ochosi> csenger41: well, i can't help you with that
[15:31] <ochosi> emerald hasn't been maintained for ages
[15:31] <ochosi> so if something like that happens there isn't much you can do i'm afraid
[15:31] <csenger41> then how can I set the greybird theme in Compiz?
[15:31] <ochosi> you can use the default compiz decorator and use greybird
[15:31] <csenger41> how?
[15:31] <ochosi> you have to set a gconf-variable
[15:32] <ochosi> either via gconf-editor or maybe there's also a straight command for that
[15:32] <ochosi> straight==direct(cli)
[15:32] <mongy> ochosi, he installed 0.8.8 debs from some site, then I advised compiling 0.9.4 from source, the same as I use without problems, he never removed the older debs before hand, so it's got a little messy I think.
[15:32] <f1assistance> which is the one Wi-Fi Mini PCI card that works best with Xubuntu?
[15:33] <csenger41> now I removed the old version and reinstalled
[15:34] <ochosi> mongy: possible yeah. but still it's possible that reordering the buttons in a theme doesn't work too well with the emerald theme editor...
[15:34] <csenger41> how to set greybird in compiz?
[15:34] <ochosi> csenger41: google is your friend, e.g. this turned up when i searched: "change the value of apps > metacity > general > theme gconf key"
[15:34] <mongy> ochosi, I reorder the one I use, and I also tried the theme he's using and it works fine.
[15:34] <mongy> ochosi, so i guess it all points back to his install of emerald.
[15:34] <ochosi> mongy: well still, emerald is unmaintained and always has been a bit too buggy/unstable for my taste :)
[15:35] <ochosi> mongy: but anyway, yeah, it might also be his installation
[15:35] <ochosi> who knows...
[15:35] <mongy> csenger41, are you 32 or 64bit?
[15:35] <ochosi> csenger41: or use the command line: "gconftool-2 -- type string --set /apps/metacity/general/theme greybird"
[15:36] <csenger41> ochosi: already changed that, now trying to figure out restore original window decorator
[15:36] <csenger41> 32bit
[15:36] <ochosi> oops, there is a space too much there in the command line
[15:36] <ochosi> csenger41: what do you mean by "original window decorator". xfwm4?
[15:36] <ochosi> (if yes, alt+f2 > "xfwm4 --replace")
[15:37] <csenger41> if i restore it, compiz is gone
[15:37] <mongy> csenger41, to use a metacity window theme with compiz, install compiz-gnome and do 'gtk-window-decorator --replace --metacity-theme=greybird  or whatever theme.
[15:38] <mongy> I tried it once with ambiance, just needed the titlebar font adjusting with tweak tool.
[15:39] <csenger_> sry internet died
[15:39] <csenger_> mongy: ok ill try
[15:39] <mongy> csenger41, to use a metacity window theme with compiz, install compiz-gnome and do 'gtk-window-decorator --replace --metacity-theme=greybird  or whatever theme.
[15:40] <ochosi> i'm off for today
[15:40] <ochosi> bye
[15:40] <mongy> csenger41,  when I get chance I will make a deb for emerald if you like.  just try and remove everything you have for emerald already, even the .emerald folder in your home.
[15:44] <csenger_> mongy: great, ur command is working great
[15:46] <mongy> cool
[16:00] <likemindead> I removed the lovely bottom panel/launcher (Xubuntu 11.10) some time ago. I'd like it back. HALP?
[16:01] <csenger_> left click on the remaining panel
[16:01] <csenger_> panel -> panel preferences
[16:02] <csenger_> then click on the green +
[16:02] <likemindead> I've tried that but it only adds a "regular" panel.
[16:02] <likemindead> Not the neat-o launcher.
[16:03] <csenger_> thats a simple panel with autohide and a bunch of launchers
[16:03] <knome> and transparency
[16:03] <csenger_> you can't undo but create another one with same options
[16:03] <csenger_> yup
[16:04] <likemindead> Oh? Okay. Thanks. I'll see what I can do.
[16:04] <csenger_> its size was 36 pixels i think or 42
[16:04] <csenger_> not sure
[16:04] <likemindead> Right-o.
[16:04] <likemindead> I'll play around with it.
[16:04] <csenger_> k good luck :3
[16:05] <csenger_> knome: can you kick someone?
[16:05] <knome> csenger_, huh?
[16:06] <csenger_> knome: just asking
[16:06] <knome> yes, i am an op
[16:06] <likemindead> Know how I can center the launchers on the bottom panel?
[16:06] <knome> likemindead, you need to add spacing elements
[16:06] <likemindead> How do?
[16:06] <csenger_> panel preferences -> items
[16:06] <knome> likemindead, like adding any other panel items
[16:06] <csenger_> and the green  button
[16:06] <csenger_> +
[16:07] <csenger_> they are called separators
[16:07] <likemindead> Added a separator at each end, but everything's still on the left.
[16:08] <knome> you need to tweak the prefences
[16:08] <knome> they need to expand
[16:08] <likemindead> Ah. Thanks!
[16:08] <csenger_> u want the launchers to be in the middle?
[16:08] <likemindead> Yup. got it.
[16:08] <likemindead> I flipping love Xubuntu.
[16:08] <csenger_> k great
[16:08] <csenger_> me2 :3
[16:09] <csenger_> easpecially with wobbly windows
[16:09] <knome> csenger_, those make me sick
[16:09] <csenger_> knome: ahaha
[16:09] <knome> csenger_, i'm not even using the xfce compositor
[16:10] <likemindead> No Compiz for me. My Lenovo 3000 N100 circa 2006 does a lot better without eye candy.
[16:10] <csenger_> knome: I like eyecandies
[16:10] <knome> i like being productive :)
[16:10] <knome> the eyecandy stuff is nice for presenting linux for newcomers, but i wouldn't use them in any production machine
[16:11] <GridCube> :P
[16:11] <knome> because sadly, eyecandy is what attracts people..
[16:11] <knome> not how *well* something works
[16:11] <likemindead> Hence the rise of OS X (i.e. Fisher Price For Grown Ups).
[16:12] <csenger_> knome: computers now far beyond being just productive not only nice
[16:12] <knome> every eyecandy effect takes some time off the time you are able to work on stuff
[16:13] <csenger_> knome: no if its well set
[16:13] <GridCube> knome, most people just works on using the internet
[16:13]  * GridCube thinks this all is offtopic
[16:13] <knome> GridCube, most people yes, but if you're actually *working on computers*, you are not
[16:13] <knome> maybe ;)
[16:14] <csenger_> knome: why, what are you working on computer?
[16:14] <GridCube> csenger_, :D please go to #xubuntu-offtopic
[16:14] <knome> csenger_, agreed with GridCube join us
[18:21] <rover10> ok I am having some issues with my linux, trying to fix them in recovery with netroot but I can't resolve ubuntu.com, what am I supposed to do now?
[18:22] <rover10> (in other words, I am trying to reinstall certain packages but my netroot won't let me because apparently it isn't connected to the net)
[18:23] <holstein> you could elaborate as to what the main issue is.. maybe some one will have a 'big picture' suggestion
[18:23] <rover10> ok so I installed xubuntu again today, but I was trying to make it dual screen, which wasn't working because I was missing ATI drivers (4800 series)
[18:24] <holstein> if this is a recently reinstalled OS, i wouldnt waste too much time 'rescuing' it
[18:25] <rover10> so I installed them, then tried accessing them with administrative priviliges, had to change my catalyst file (usr/share/fglrx/amdccclesu.desktop)
[18:25] <rover10> then logged out
[18:25] <rover10> and bam, GUI was gone after that
[18:25] <holstein> you should be able to remove whatever drivers you installed, or create a custom xorg.conf with the vesa driver or some other tricks from the recovery console
[18:26] <rover10> well I am not an expert in this, first time I had to do such a thing, so it's not easy for me atm
[18:26] <rover10> but yeah, working with recovery console, trying to remove the fglrx crap alltogether and starting fresh ... only issue is
[18:27] <rover10> whenever I do an apt-get install for a new driver package it says ubuntu.com is unresolved, while I am working on netroot
[18:27] <rover10> so I don't really get what's causing that
[18:27] <holstein> you shouldnt need internet to remove the package
[18:27] <holstein> nor force the vesa driver
[18:28] <rover10> well removing the package is done
[18:28] <rover10> it's the installing, don't really know how to install the vesa driver though? Maybe that will get me back into the GUI atleast
[18:28] <holstein> rover10: the vesa driver is there
[18:28] <holstein> you can just make a custom xorg.conf to use it
[18:29] <holstein> you might be able to run the graphics restore or whatever it is in the recovery area
[18:30] <rover10> haven't found anything like it, first time I have to do something like this :p
[18:30] <rover10> but I'm readin how I can make it work
[18:30] <holstein> rover10: i have done that before, and literally just reinstalled
[18:31] <holstein> not that you should do that.. but still, no reason to burn up time about it
[18:31] <rover10> nah you're probably right, nothing major was installed yet
[18:31] <rover10> oh
[18:31] <holstein> you might take this time to try some extreme measures to test
[18:31] <rover10> my graphics are back!
[18:31] <holstein> dont get caught up on the network access
[18:31] <holstein> that shouldnt matter, and you dont need it
[18:32] <rover10> well, it is the default graphics, but I'm back in business atleast :) I'm guessing just cleaning up the ATI stuff was enough to make it fall back on default
[18:34] <rover10> Well now that I am at it, what's the best way these days to create an extended dual screen set-up? I was trying to do it through catalyst control center but that kind of failed
[18:35] <holstein> rover10: best is a matter of opinion
[18:35] <holstein> i use arandr
[18:35] <rover10> still? that's what I used to to 4 years ago
[18:35] <rover10> ok, arandr it is, atleast I know how that works
[18:38] <holstein> theres an included tool, but i can only do mirroring with it
[18:38] <holstein> not to imply "only mirroring can be done with it"
[19:00] <Joshun> hi
[19:01] <Joshun> is it possible to use thunar to mount usb cameras automatically?
[19:01] <Joshun> or can you only do it in external programs like gtkam
[19:02] <holstein> im not sure about that... i think it depends on how the device works.. if it shows up as a hard drive or if you have to 'extract' the information
[19:03] <Joshun> its a USB PTP camera
[19:03] <Joshun> it works under gtkam
[19:03] <Joshun> or gphoto2
[19:03] <holstein> Joshun: right... im not going to know what that is.. all i can relate it to is an mp3 player.. some show up as hard drives, some dont exactly work that way
[19:04] <holstein> you have to "sync" them
[19:04] <Joshun> is it possible to get thunar to open it when it is plugged in
[19:04] <holstein> cool
[19:04] <holstein> you just dont want to click on it? to mount it?
[19:04] <Joshun> it doesn't appear like a normal drive
[19:05] <Joshun> it isn't even shown
[19:05] <Joshun> gvfs is installed and everything
[19:05] <holstein> Joshun: OH.. i mis-read
[19:05] <holstein> it *doesnt* show up
[19:05] <Unit193> When I plug in the camera, thunar pops open at the camers mount point
[19:05] <holstein> right... on some mp3 players, i saw ways to swith that, to make them show up
[19:05] <csenger41> hello everyone
[19:06] <holstein> if you can do that, then the device is not intended to me mounted like that... like a hard drive
[19:06] <holstein> ^^ if you cant*
[19:06] <Joshun> @Unit193 - what packages did you install for that to happen
[19:06] <Joshun> or does it do it on a fresh install?
[19:06] <holstein> theres no packages... its just different
[19:06] <csenger41> anyone could tell me how are these compiz, gnome, gtk and others things are?
[19:06] <holstein> csenger41: sure.. they are mostly not in xubuntu
[19:07] <csenger41> I have some general knowledge, but it's a little bit messed up
[19:07] <Unit193> Joshun: Well, not even close to a fresh install, but I either had it already, or installed it already
[19:07] <csenger41> go to offtopic?
[19:07] <holstein> csenger41: sure...
[19:07] <Unit193> csenger41: Just try a live CD of each one
[19:08] <Joshun> did you use gvfs to open it
[19:08] <Joshun> or did it do it automatically
[19:08] <holstein> Joshun: if its mountable, it just shows up
[19:08] <holstein> you can run sudo fdisk -l
[19:08] <holstein> i dont even think you'll see it there
[19:08] <Joshun> it doesn't show up there
[19:08] <Joshun> its not a mass storage device
[19:09] <Joshun> its a PTP device
[19:09] <Joshun> nautilus opens it
[19:09] <Joshun> but thunar doesnt
[19:09] <holstein> interesting
[19:09] <csenger41> holstein: I'm in offtopic
[19:10] <Joshun> i can use thunar-volman-settings to set a program to open it with
[19:10] <Unit193> Different camera
[19:10] <Joshun> bit it doesn't open with thunar itself
[19:12] <holstein> yeah, im not familiar with whats happening with nautilus these days, but i say, use it
[19:13] <holstein> by the time you trick thunar out to be like it, the speed is probably not an issue anymore
[19:13] <Joshun> i've found a way to do it manually
[19:13] <Joshun> in thunar
[19:13] <Joshun> if you do control L
[19:13] <Joshun> and then put in
[19:13] <Joshun> gphoto2://[usb:$CAMPORT]
[19:14] <Joshun> where usb and camport are ids
[19:14] <holstein> cool... maybe you can script that... you are way more of a professional at it than i am
[19:16] <Joshun> for mine i can do
[19:16] <Joshun> gphoto2://[usb:001,007]/
[19:16] <Joshun> but the id changes every time
[19:17] <Joshun> maybe thunar just doesn't have automatic ptp support
[19:17] <Joshun> i'll just use gtkam for now
[19:17] <Joshun> thanks anyway though
[19:18] <holstein> id hit the mailing list with that
[19:18] <Joshun> yeah i might
[20:37] <joao> Hi All. I recently installed Xubuntu 11.10 and I am having trouble synchronizing my Tomboy notes with my Ubuntu One account. I used to use Ubuntu 11.04 and I had no trouble synchronizing my Tomboy notes with Ubuntu one. However, when I got a new computer and started using Xubuntu 11.10, I was unable to retrieve most of my notes from the server to my local hard drive. My Ubuntu One account has all my notes (about 67 of them), but onl
[20:37] <joao> y about 18 find their way to my laptop. I set up the  synchronizing function using the preferences menu and I get a confirmation message that the set-up was successful. However, when I try to have Tomboy synchronize the notes, I get a "Failed to Synchronize" error message. The details window below the message only lists the messages that were successfully synchronized (those 18), nothing else. Does anybody know a workaround? Being a
[20:37] <joao> ble to synch is very important for my academic work. Thanks a lot for your time!
[20:40] <holstein> joao: check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/71733/tomboy-notes-failed-to-synchronize
[20:40] <holstein> might be a bug, and not XFCE related
[20:44] <TVasEyes> on a different note, if it's for academic work have a look at http://www.zotero.org
[20:49] <joao> Hi Holstein, thanks for the link, but I followed the user's procedure and it didn't work for me. And you are right, it seems to be affecting everyone, not just xfce users. Do you know if I should direct my question to another channel?
[20:49] <holstein> joao: thats what im proposing... not sure if im 'right'
[20:50] <holstein> i dont use tomboy... im just saying, i see errors *not* relating to XFCE, and its not like its not working for you... its not "syncing"
[20:50] <holstein> wont hurt to ask and search around a bit
[20:57] <joao> sure, I'll do that. Thanks for the help. Thanks TVasEyes, I will give Zotero another try - haven't used it in a long time, but it might be just what I need. See you guys!
[21:43] <Marzata> is it possible to share a video file via ubuntu one or you need an extra paid account?
[21:44] <holstein> Marzata: i though you could get a link like in dropbox... right click and share a link?
[21:45] <holstein> i thought there was a public area last time i looked
[21:46] <Marzata> well, same as I thought but it turned to be not quite like this
[21:50] <holstein> Marzata: http://ubuntuone.com/4Ri7GvVJL7WyAdOoEp2Fwi
[21:50] <holstein> this is from mine
[21:50] <holstein> i havent had it installed in ages... i just logged in to the webUI and clicked "more options" and "published" the file
[21:52] <Marzata> holstein: img is ok, video was not that
[21:52] <holstein> ?
[21:52] <holstein> zip it up then
[21:52] <holstein> name it whatever.whatever
[21:52] <Marzata> holstein: that might be a way
[21:52] <holstein> i would expect the other person to download it
[21:52] <holstein> not just play in the browser necessarily
[21:53] <Marzata> holstein: you never know what the other side is doing
[21:54] <holstein> Marzata: right.. tell them
[21:54] <holstein> or use dropbox
[21:54] <holstein> i wouldnt expect to "host" files like we can in dropbox
[22:21] <rlmccormick> Hi all. I can;t seem to find a link for a 64 bit xubuntu other than the one for amd processors.  For intel is it the i386 download?
[22:22] <vinny> its the same as  amd
[22:23] <rlmccormick> oh ok
[22:23] <vinny> unless  you have  IA64  it maybe be different
[22:23] <mongy> rlmccormick, i386 is 32bit an amd64 is 64bit
[22:23] <rlmccormick> i guess i got confused by the name and thought amd64 must be for amd processors only
[22:24] <rlmccormick> thx
[22:24] <mongy> rlmccormick, I believe it's down to amd being the first to make 64bit, or something
[22:24] <mongy> rlmccormick, I agree, it should be changed
[22:25] <rlmccormick> thanks for the info
[22:26] <rlmccormick> is there any reason i shouldn't use the 64 bit version?
[22:27] <rlmccormick> i have >4GB of RAM
[22:27] <mongy> I have crunchbang, ubuntu and xubuntu torrents serving, and crunchbang and xubuntu are always active.. :)
[22:27] <mongy> rlmccormick, 64bit is only benefical for more than 3.3gb ram
[22:28] <mongy> even then, i386 with a pae kernel can see more than 4gb. (is it 8 or 16gb)
[22:28] <mongy> rlmccormick, if you cpu supports it, go with it.
[22:29] <rlmccormick> i just installed the 32bit version and it seems to think i have less than 4GB of ram
[22:29] <rlmccormick> using free -m
[22:29] <mongy> rlmccormick, you need the pae kernel then.
[22:30] <mongy> apt-get install linux-headers-3.0.0-14-generic-pae linux-image-3.0.0-14-generic-pae
[22:30] <rlmccormick> kk, at the moment it looks like the kernel is being downloading but it is not the pae version
[22:32] <mongy> linux-generic-pae  then
[22:32] <rlmccormick> i'll do that after this update is done,  the update is coming down extremely slow for some reason
[22:33] <mongy> should work either way
[22:34] <rlmccormick> ah ok, so the update just queues up?
[22:34] <mongy> is it too much trouble to install fresh amd64?
[22:34] <rlmccormick> it's not too much trouble.  i just finished with the 32 bit version so i have no data on this machine yet
[22:35] <mongy> I say go 64
[22:35] <rlmccormick> i'm actually downloading the 64 bit version now to burn it to a CD so i can install it
[22:35] <vinny> 64 64 64 64!
[22:35] <knome> hmm, calm down lads
[22:35] <rlmccormick> i just built this machine last night, finally getting around to getting the OS on it
[22:37] <rlmccormick> is there any chance that the 64 bit version has less hardware compatibility? Are the drivers the same for both 32 bit and 64 bit?
[22:37] <knome> same hw compatibility
[22:38] <mongy> 64bot used to be a slight problem, but only for certain apps.  You are good to go now
[22:38] <mongy> bit*
[22:38] <knome> used, like 4 years ago... :)
[22:39] <rlmccormick> lol well it's been a while so i guess i have old memories of 64 bit issues
[22:39] <mongy> used, as in the past :)
[23:47] <timhurd> Hi guys, I have an issue with video playback in Xubuntu 11.10, hopefully someone could help me out