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=== vila changed the topic of #bzr to: Bazaar version control <http://bazaar.canonical.com> | try https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr for more help | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Patch pilot: vila
vilahi all08:14
fullermdHuh?  All?  Where?!08:15
* fullermd looks around frantically.08:15
vilahehe, don't worry, they'll come around, back from Budapest ;)08:15
fullermdEventually.  It's been pretty dead since, like, before Christmas.08:22
fullermdQuiet and restful, to be sure...08:22
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CHYCHi bzr, I was wondering if anyone could shed light on this stack error I'm getting on commits and pushes/pulls relating to a particular branch I have09:08
CHYChttp://paste.ubuntu.com/805989/09:08
CHYCI've tried commands with --no-plugins with the same effect09:09
CHYCBRB09:21
jelmer_'morning10:07
jelmer_wgz: hi10:11
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ChrisCauserHi everyone10:28
ChrisCauserCHYC was me earlier10:28
jelmer_hi ChrisCauser10:34
ChrisCauserHi jelmer_10:35
jelmer_ChrisCauser: that error is usually caused by disk corruption of some sort (sudden power loss, etc), which causes files to be truncated10:35
ChrisCauserAh10:35
jelmer_ChrisCauser: newer versions of bzr should print a saner error I think (without a traceback)10:35
ChrisCauserOK.10:36
ChrisCauserThis is bzr 2.410:36
ChrisCauserIs there a way of fixing it?10:36
ChrisCauserThe only thing unusual about this repo is it is hosted on Dropbox. I guess that could cause synchronization errors10:37
jelmer_yeah, that might be related10:37
mgzhey all.10:37
jelmer_there is a way to regenerate that index file, I'm not entirely sure how though10:37
jelmer_'mørning mgz10:38
fullermdjam wrote a plugin, vague memory says.10:39
* ChrisCauser looks frantically for jam's plugin10:42
jelmer_ChrisCauser: an alternative is to clone the branch from elsewhere and then pull in your local changes manually10:43
ChrisCauserjelmer_ Alas, I get the same error whenever I push/pull/branch it10:44
jelmer_ChrisCauser: I mean, cloning not this particular branch but a copy of it that exists elsewhere10:46
ChrisCauserjelmer_ Hmm, OK. I'll see if I can dig a copy out from somewhere10:47
jelmer_ChrisCauser: somebody else might also remember the plugin10:54
jelmer_jam: hi?10:54
ChrisCauserjelmer_ Thanks. I was able to reconstruct it using fast-import/export10:59
jelmer_ChrisCauser: newer versions will fsync more often, preventing this issue in most cases10:59
ChrisCauserjelmer_ Thanks a lot. It all seems to work well now that I've fast-exported and imported. If there is a plugin that could handle it I would love to know though11:16
jelmer_ChrisCauser: note that fast-import/fast-export changes the identity of your revisions, so if you're pushing to/pulling from other people it will break11:16
jamhi jelmer_11:17
ChrisCauserjelmer_ Good to know, although in this instance this is a personal project so I'm fine11:17
jamfor a .six file, you can probably just copy over another one11:17
jambecause you probably aren't actually using signatures, so the file is just the header11:18
jamhowever, if you get it for any other files (.rix, .tix, .iix) they probably cannot be regenerated.11:18
jamAnd yes, bzr repositories are not dropbox safe11:18
jamdropbox doesn't copy files in the order we need to preserve atomic safety11:18
ChrisCauserjam Thanks for the update. I'll not be keeping my repos in Dropbox then. I guess I was lucky it was a six file.11:19
mgzhm, no vila? log says he was around earlier11:28
jelmer_I haven't seen him yet today.11:28
fullermdHe was around for a minute or three anyway.11:30
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Dan-K2VOLHello15:34
Dan-K2VOLso is there a way to download files using bazaar without creating a launchpad ID?15:35
LeoNerdbazaar is a DVCS and in no way relies on some central authority, such as LP15:35
Dan-K2VOLI was instructed that this command would download the libraries I need for an app: bzr branch lp:~kicad-lib-committers/kicad/library kicad15:36
Dan-K2VOLand bzr responds with: You have not informed bzr of your Launchpad ID, and you must do this to15:37
Dan-K2VOLwrite to Launchpad or access private data.  See "bzr help launchpad-login".15:37
LeoNerdOh, -that- might in particular yes, because that's branching off launchpad.15:37
LeoNerdPerhaps the project in question has a public URL though you can use instead?15:37
Dan-K2VOLthat would be nice, but it seems the project isn't so organized on the OSX branch yet.  It seems to be downloading the files, but the warning message seems odd if it's not relevant15:38
LeoNerdIt may be the LP plugin in general is complaining of a lack of information, but this particular read-only operation is happy to proceed anyway15:39
Dan-K2VOLLeoNerd thank you for your time and thoughts, I think you're right15:39
mgzit's just telling you that if you want to push that branch later it'll fail15:42
Dan-K2VOLahh gotcha15:43
mgzproviding a login and ssh key can also mean faster access15:43
LeoNerdssh faster than http?15:44
Dan-K2VOLthank you, I really only needed those files for installation, word on the street this is the simplest way for this platform to get the files, at this stage of development.15:44
mgzthen what you did is all you need.15:44
Dan-K2VOL:-)15:44
mgzLeoNerd: mostly just makes a difference with big branches, and operations that don't need the whole history15:45
LeoNerdAhyes... roundtrips for smartserver15:46
LeoNerdI'm just used to thinking of the ssh setup cost as reeeeally expensive15:46
LeoNerdBecause, hey, it involves large prime numbers. :)15:46
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vila2.5b5 has been frozen (including strings for translation)17:39
jelmervila: \o/17:39
vilatrunk is open again, check your news entries ;)17:40
vilaI still need to merge 2.5 into trunk17:40
mgzI'm tempted to work out what calls I need to not have to deal with the amazon interface for starting up a windows builder17:40
vilathe new 2.5 branch has been setup in pqm and is functional17:40
mgzprobably DescribeImages, StartInstances, and TerminateInstances17:41
vilapfew, this release was tricky...17:44
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youlyssesI'm wanting to learn my first VCS, it's inbetween this are Git. Reccomendations?20:58
bob2pick whichever the people around you use21:59
bob2failing that, bzr21:59
mgedmin(if you ask in #bzr, expect bzr to be the recommendation)22:00
youlyssesbob2, no body I know around me even code at all... And lol mgedmin, I expected. :P22:15
bob2well, whatever the projects you use/care about use22:16
bob2though in 2012 you'll probably want at least a 'clone/commit/push' familiarity with git, bzr and hg22:16
mgedminamen to that22:18
bob2unless you're using ruby, then you just need to use the github OS X gui thing!22:20
youlyssesI'm on Parabola. Most of what I'm intrested in are offical Gnu packages, but they're all seemingly using git ...22:37
youlysses:P22:37
mgedmingit seems to be the most popular of the three22:45
mgedminalthough I'm somewhat surprised to hear this about GNU -- RMS prefers GNU/Bazaar, I heard ;)22:45
youlyssesWell it's based of Gnu Arch... :P22:56
bob2hey hey hey, let's keep it civil23:00
bob2(bzr despite the name is at most partly inspired by gnu arch/tla/bazaar-the-1st)23:00
cjalmeidaHello everyone.23:04
cjalmeidaI'm having a strange issue with bzr included in ubuntu 11.1023:05
cjalmeidait hangs while printing "Fetching revisions:Inserting stream:Done 65/65"23:05
pooliehi all23:06
pooliecjalmeida, hangs indefinitely, like for several minutes?23:06
poolieif you interrupt it you should get a traceback in ~/.bzr.log23:06
poolieplease pastebin that23:06
pooliejelmer, mgz, hi23:06
jelmer'evening poolie23:07
poolievila, http://www.kennethreitz.com/major-progress-for-requests.html looks good23:09
cjalmeidapoolie, sorry for the delay.23:22
cjalmeidait hangs indefinitely23:22
cjalmeidahere's the paste:23:22
cjalmeidahttp://pastie.org/319818923:22
cjalmeidathe thing is that I can ssh normally into the box23:23
cjalmeidapoolie, i've changed BZR_SSH=paramiko and same error. hang's till interrupted23:32
bob2isn't the error from you ctrl-c'ing it23:32
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cjalmeidabob2, nah, i do it after a pretty while23:47
cjalmeidajust did it again, 351 seconds...23:47
cjalmeidafor less then 200k transfered23:48
cjalmeidabob2, poolie, it seems to be ssh related. I just copied the target repo locally, tried the push and everything worked fine23:53
pooliecjalmeida, i wonder if it is some kind of mtu-type problem23:53
poolieyou could also try bzr 2.5b423:53
poolie*b523:53

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