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| Riddelll | time to upload qt I think! | 11:42 |
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| debfx | has it been tested with unity-2d? | 11:48 |
| Riddelll | debfx: hmm agateau said it was good but I don't know if he tested it | 11:49 |
| Riddelll | agateau? | 11:49 |
| micahg | Riddelll: question about the qt4-x11 versioning, was that intended for the archive? | 12:11 |
| Riddelll | micahg: oh, drat, yet it was but obviously I should have removed the ppa | 12:15 |
| Riddelll | my head concussion is improving but clearly not fully recovered yet! | 12:15 |
| micahg | ok, at least it was intended for the archive :) | 12:16 |
| Riddelll | oh well, I'll reupload with the right number | 12:16 |
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| agateau | Riddell: I haven't checked with unity-2d. Can do now. | 12:20 |
| Riddell | agateau: best be quick since it's uploaded now :) | 12:21 |
| agateau | Riddell: uhuh ok | 12:21 |
| agateau | Riddell: looks good so far. I have been using 4:4.8.0-1ubuntu1~ppa1, I assume the version pushed to the archive is similar | 12:38 |
| Riddell | yes it is | 12:45 |
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| Riddell | is my phone number on the kubuntu.org site? | 15:39 |
| Riddell | had a phone call from someone asking if I was kubuntu support and saying the site listed me as such | 15:39 |
| jjesse | under press contact your number is listed | 15:39 |
| jjesse | http://www.kubuntu.org/contact-us | 15:39 |
| Riddell | jjesse: hah yes, poor guy must have been so desperate he didn't even read the words "Press Contact" on that page, I don't think it could be any clearer | 15:57 |
| jjesse | must have been having some serious issues | 15:58 |
| Riddell | I've actually helped someone before who phoned me she sounded so desperate but my poor brain wouldn't be up to it today I think | 16:02 |
| Riddell | although apparantly I can order pizza on the phone which is too tricky for everyone else in my canoe club, funny how people's talents need nudging even for things I think are easy | 16:03 |
| Riddell | fabo: meeting in an hour? | 16:03 |
| Riddell | Tonio_, debfx, apachelogger, NCommander, Quintasan_, yofel, ScottK: fabo quiz meeting in an hour? | 16:05 |
| ScottK | Sure. | 16:05 |
| * yofel has time | 16:05 | |
| Riddell | ScottK: do you remember the quorum and whatnot rules? I keep forgetting | 16:08 |
| ScottK | IIRC at least three. | 16:08 |
| * ScottK looks | 16:08 | |
| maco | if there are 7 people in that list, itd be 4 then? | 16:09 |
| ScottK | Riddell: "majority of those present and at least 3" votes. | 16:10 |
| Riddell | ScottK: thanks that sounds right | 16:10 |
| Riddell | maco: nah just a fixed number because there could be loads of kubuntu-dev who lose interest so we'd not get a majoity | 16:11 |
| ScottK | Exactly. | 16:11 |
| Riddell | anyway all this voting more unquakerly, we should be able to find the Right Thing to Do :) | 16:11 |
| ScottK | If there is a surprise when the vote is taken, we're doing it wrong. | 16:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: can't be there unfortunatelly | 16:12 |
| Tonio_ | I have to go see the doctor, since I cut off one of my fingers | 16:12 |
| ScottK | Oh my! | 16:12 |
| maco | O_o | 16:13 |
| ScottK | Riddell: You might email the taco boy too. | 16:13 |
| Tonio_ | actually I only lost about 1.5cm | 16:13 |
| ScottK | That's plenty. | 16:13 |
| Tonio_ | yeah.... they rebuilt it so that it'll look like a normal finger in the end | 16:14 |
| Tonio_ | but it hurts like hell | 16:14 |
| * ScottK would have guessed so. Good luck with it. | 16:14 | |
| ScottK | BBIAB. | 16:15 |
| Tonio_ | wouldn't be much of a problem if I didn't have surgery on the wrist, same hand, last month | 16:16 |
| Tonio_ | because of the finger I couln't go through reeducation for the wrist, and it is now completly blocked | 16:17 |
| Tonio_ | I can't move it, so I may have to go through surgery again :'( | 16:17 |
| Tonio_ | that really sucks | 16:17 |
| Tonio_ | I can't even old my little girl properly | 16:18 |
| Tonio_ | hold | 16:18 |
| maco | you type with a french accent! | 16:18 |
| Tonio_ | yeah, I know :) | 16:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what about your health ? are you getting fully better ? | 16:19 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: erk, sorry to hear that, we're both unfortunate accident victims | 16:20 |
| Tonio_ | yeah... well the wrist isn't an accident, I got problems with it for years | 16:20 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes thanks I can notice my brain improving, eye I don't know impossible to be objective until it's fully better I think but worst case that'll get surgery | 16:20 |
| Tonio_ | just it is a lot worse after the surgery than it was before ! | 16:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no memory problems then ? that's nice, and obviously the most important | 16:21 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: oh and we both have to battle with french health system admins as well, poor us! | 16:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you mean your eye doesn't "see" correctly ? | 16:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah ;) | 16:21 |
| Tonio_ | anyway they did a pretty good jobs from a technical perspective | 16:22 |
| Tonio_ | https://picasaweb.google.com/110887763749878491062/11Janvier2012?locked=true#5696286599847902802 | 16:22 |
| Tonio_ | that's after the surgery | 16:22 |
| Tonio_ | might look awfull, but compared to what is was before, that's really nice | 16:22 |
| Tonio_ | it looks like a finger at least | 16:22 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: page is locked I think | 16:22 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: one eye had a muscle stretch and is squint so I get double vision, means I get to wear this cool eye patch http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/DSCF6511.JPG | 16:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://temp.toniox.org/IMG_2012-01-11_091940.jpg | 16:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ouch.... that must be annoying as hell !!! | 16:24 |
| Tonio_ | anyway you look pretty cool with the eye patch :) | 16:25 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: well it's not as bad as having a missing finger! | 16:25 |
| Tonio_ | depends, actually :) I'm more concerned with the wrist | 16:25 |
| Tonio_ | concequenses are way more annoying | 16:25 |
| Riddell | yeah | 16:25 |
| Tonio_ | pain is nothing as long as it's temporary | 16:26 |
| Tonio_ | currently, I can't drive properly, I can't go with the motorbike, I can't wash my baby, I can't do anything except from typing the keyboard :) | 16:26 |
| Tonio_ | hopefully I can work | 16:26 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: as you can see I don't have a missing finger, they pulled it back | 16:27 |
| Tonio_ | just it'll be long before looking like "normal" | 16:27 |
| Tonio_ | but anyway, compared to a car accident, were you could have die, what happened to me is just nothing... I'm fine you're recovering | 16:28 |
| Riddell | yeah but I don't remember any of the scary bit :) | 16:28 |
| Tonio_ | me neither | 16:31 |
| Tonio_ | I remember the noise with the saw, and the feeling like "meat is getting desintegrated", but that's all, no images, no pain, nothing | 16:31 |
| Tonio_ | the brain usually forgets nasty details ;) | 16:32 |
| Riddell | handy that | 16:33 |
| Tonio_ | anyway I'm out doctor is waiting for me | 16:38 |
| Riddell | fabo: meeting? | 17:02 |
| fabo | Riddell: sure. I guess you start it | 17:03 |
| Riddell | onio_, debfx, apachelogger, NCommander, Quintasan_, yofel, ScottK: meeting? | 17:04 |
| Riddell | Tonio_ | 17:04 |
| ScottK | \o | 17:04 |
| Riddell | one more needed | 17:04 |
| yofel | o/ | 17:05 |
| Riddell | great | 17:05 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FathiBoudra/DeveloperApplication | 17:05 |
| Riddell | we'll just use here, quiz fabo and vote when we are happy to | 17:05 |
| debfx | \o | 17:05 |
| Riddell | fabo: tell us about yourself | 17:05 |
| Riddell | what's your experience, why do you want to contribute to kubuntu, what do you know or not know (also how does your job affect it)? | 17:06 |
| fabo | so I guess I know already many of you, most likely worked on Qt/KDE related packages | 17:06 |
| fabo | I'm a linux user since 11 years | 17:07 |
| fabo | developer, contributor to some open source projects | 17:07 |
| fabo | guess that I'm mostly known here as a Debian developer and Qt/KDE maintainer | 17:08 |
| Riddell | we do love our debian qt/kde team | 17:08 |
| fabo | I indirectly contributed to Kubuntu so far :) | 17:09 |
| ScottK | So why apply now? | 17:09 |
| fabo | and would like to move a step further | 17:09 |
| fabo | I'm applying now because I want to go faster | 17:10 |
| fabo | when syncing/merging, I'm wasting your time | 17:10 |
| ScottK | What do you know about the Ubuntu release cycle? When we have freezes, what they mean, etc.? | 17:10 |
| fabo | I could have done it earlier, but I've more time to do it now | 17:11 |
| fabo | mostly because of my Linaro work | 17:11 |
| EvilResistance | you should probably answer questions when they're posed to you :P | 17:11 |
| fabo | which makes me more involved in Ubuntu | 17:11 |
| yofel | EvilResistance: it's fine as long as he answers them | 17:12 |
| Riddell | fabo: do you know what kubuntu-dev does and doesn't let you upload? | 17:13 |
| fabo | as you know (or not), I represent Linaro at the Ubuntu release meeting and have a weekly sync meeting with skaet | 17:13 |
| fabo | I'm following closely the release cycle | 17:14 |
| fabo | I know what a freeze is, what process should be followed (exceptions) | 17:14 |
| fabo | for the dates, I'm referring to the wiki | 17:14 |
| * ScottK too (can never remember the dates) | 17:15 | |
| fabo | kubuntu-dev maintains and can upload a set of packages (kubuntu related) | 17:15 |
| * Riddell has a handy year wall chart, quicker than loading a wiki page | 17:15 | |
| fabo | indeed Qt/KDE packages | 17:15 |
| fabo | it's a limited set of packages and kubunt-dev can't upload random packages | 17:16 |
| ScottK | It's also not all Qt/KDE packages. It's only the ones in the Kubuntu packageset. | 17:16 |
| ScottK | This is ~everything on the Kubuntu CD or DVD. | 17:17 |
| Riddell | fabo: what do you think of UDD? | 17:17 |
| Riddell | and actually my other questions, feel free to answer what you wish.. | 17:18 |
| Riddell | can we work better with debian? | 17:18 |
| Riddell | why does strigi have different symbols on debian than ubuntu? | 17:18 |
| fabo | Riddell: unfortunately, not much to say about udd. I know what it stands for, the tools used... | 17:19 |
| ScottK | If a packager revision ends in build1, e.g. 4.7.4-2build1, what does the build1 mean? | 17:19 |
| fabo | actually, I don't have any idea how to work better with Debian. we have a lot of tools to help already. most likely we want to reduce differences even more | 17:21 |
| fabo | the symbols difference is strigi could be caused by different build dependency and could be also caused by the compiler | 17:22 |
| fabo | s/is/in | 17:22 |
| fabo | I could check and give you a more precise answer | 17:23 |
| fabo | build1 means that the package has been rebuilt (could be caused by a transition) | 17:24 |
| Riddell | I'm ready to vote, ScottK, debfx, yofel: any more questions? | 17:25 |
| * ScottK is ready. | 17:25 | |
| * debfx too | 17:25 | |
| yofel | me too | 17:25 |
| Riddell | I'm +1 for good knowledge, keen project interest and all round eliteness | 17:26 |
| ScottK | I'm +1 - Long time DD with excellent technical knowlege who's well familiar with K(U)buntu differences. | 17:26 |
| yofel | +1 for being a great help on the qt side | 17:27 |
| debfx | +1 from me too | 17:27 |
| Riddell | groovy, i think you're in fabo | 17:27 |
| ScottK | fabo: Congratulations. You're in. | 17:27 |
| fabo | \o/ | 17:27 |
| fabo | thanks all | 17:27 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Do you want to write the emali to devel-permissions and such or should I? | 17:28 |
| fabo | let's make kubuntu rocks even more :) | 17:28 |
| * fabo and hopefully get my internet connection back soon | 17:28 | |
| Riddell | ScottK: mm, what's that for? | 17:28 |
| debfx | congrats fabo! | 17:29 |
| fabo | debfx: thank you :) | 17:29 |
| ScottK | Riddell: It's the usual welcome email, plus they added a request to cc the devel-permissions list after another group got caught making new developers without following the process. | 17:29 |
| Riddell | hmm, I didn't know about that, I'd best learn and do it | 17:30 |
| ScottK | Shoot. I can't find the list. | 17:33 |
| ScottK | micahg will know. | 17:33 |
| ScottK | Anyway, it's a welcome mail to kubuntu-devel/ubuntu-devel/the new developer and cc Mark Shuttleworth and the relevant DMB list that micahg will hopefully tell us. | 17:34 |
| * ScottK will leave it to you. | 17:35 | |
| Riddell | ScottK: surely this list? https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/devel-permissions | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | fabo: congrats | 17:35 |
| Riddell | I'm basing it on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2011-October/000300.html | 17:35 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Yes. that's the one. | 17:36 |
| fabo | shadeslayer: thanks! | 17:37 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Happy New Kubuntu | Congratulations new Kubuntu Dev: fabo | 4.7.4 in oneiric-proposed for testing - results/comments in #913928 | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-kubuntu.html TODOs! | ||
| Riddell | hmm 4.8 tag in two days | 17:39 |
| fabo | cool 4:4.8.0-1ubuntu1 :) | 17:40 |
| yofel | did anyone ever try to use ksecretservice? I didn't so far | 17:40 |
| fabo | there's a plasma active 3 meeting in 2 days | 17:40 |
| Riddell | fabo: physical meeting? | 17:41 |
| fabo | irc | 17:41 |
| fabo | thursday 19 January 16:00 CET | 17:42 |
| * fabo needs to check why ubuntu-tv needs to rebuilt qtmobility | 17:42 | |
| fabo | d | 17:42 |
| Riddell | ubuntu-tv uses qt? | 17:43 |
| fabo | Riddell: yes, qml based | 17:43 |
| Riddell | cool | 17:43 |
| Riddell | not as cool as using plasma but that's a business decision I guess | 17:44 |
| debfx | Riddell: I think we should split the amarok docs into amarok-l10n-<lang> packages. They eat 35MB in total. | 17:44 |
| yofel | does anyone plan to work on oxygen-gtk3 in the near future? If not I'll give it a shot | 17:46 |
| Riddell | debfx: they're currently part of the -common package? | 17:46 |
| debfx | yes | 17:46 |
| Riddell | fabo: this is what I was asking about earlier, http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/strigi_0.7.7-1ubuntu1.debdiff | 17:47 |
| Riddell | I got a load of missing symbols and used pkgsymbols and it's a big diff | 17:47 |
| Riddell | debfx: well spotted, have each lang-pack depend on the amarok-l10n-<lang> ? I don't know how to do that, there are scripts which make those packages | 17:48 |
| Riddell | yofel: I think the issue with oxygen-gtk3 is the config | 17:48 |
| Riddell | there are packages around, check the irc logs, but it needs the config to be set up on first use I think | 17:49 |
| Riddell | would be great if you could take it | 17:49 |
| yofel | it does, the readme doesn't yield anything more than adding a ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini though | 17:49 |
| yofel | I'll look into it | 17:49 |
| debfx | Riddell: that strigi symbols diff seems to be caused by feeding only the i386 log into pkgkde symbols helper. does dpkg-gensymbols generate a diff when you use the debian symbols files? | 17:50 |
| Riddell | yofel: I expect there's no config GUI for KDE so you'd need to work out if that's needed and can be done easily or we can get away without it | 17:50 |
| yofel | without it gtk3 will look gtk1 style, so it's required it seems | 17:51 |
| Riddell | debfx: I am using the debian symbols files, I'm compiling on amd64 | 17:51 |
| debfx | ok, so a lot of symbols disappeared | 17:56 |
| Riddell | debfx: build log of debian package on ubuntu | 17:56 |
| Riddell | http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/strigi_0.7.7-1_amd64.build | 17:56 |
| Riddell | only change is not build-dep on libavformat | 17:57 |
| JontheEchidna | meeting soon? | 17:57 |
| Riddell | yofel: yes I agree it's probably important (although I realise I've no idea what programmes are gtk3 and what are gtk 2 now) | 17:57 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: sorry you missed it, an hour ago | 17:58 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: he got in though | 17:58 |
| JontheEchidna | oops | 17:58 |
| Riddell | if you have questions you want answered just to test him quiz away | 17:58 |
| JontheEchidna | got my times mixed up | 17:58 |
| yofel | gnome is pretty much gtk3, firefox and thunderbird are the most used ones that are still gtk2 - dunno about the rest | 17:58 |
| micahg | ScottK: sorry, was afk | 18:06 |
| micahg | Riddell: since we're talking devs, can you fix the ownership of kubuntu-devel now? | 18:06 |
| Riddell | hmm, if you guide me through it | 18:06 |
| debfx | Riddell: no idea why so many symbols disappear on Ubuntu. they all seem harmless so I'd just remove them from the symbols files. | 18:06 |
| Riddell | new team | 18:06 |
| Riddell | make new team owned by kubuntu council and someone else? | 18:07 |
| Riddell | and make that team owner of kubuntu-dev? | 18:07 |
| micahg | Riddell: yeah, just make a team with DMB and any other body that's supposed to approve kubuntu developers | 18:07 |
| Riddell | micahg? | 18:07 |
| micahg | Riddell: yep | 18:07 |
| micahg | Riddell: kubuntu council and developer-membership-board | 18:08 |
| Riddell | fiddly since kubuntu-dev is supported to approve itself! | 18:08 |
| Riddell | supposed | 18:08 |
| Riddell | call it kubuntu-dev-owner? | 18:08 |
| micahg | Riddell: hmm, well, does the KC oversee the process? | 18:09 |
| micahg | Riddell: yeah, that's fine | 18:09 |
| ScottK | Kubuntu-council doesn't approve kubuntu-dev. | 18:09 |
| ScottK | Kubuntu-dev approves kubuntu-dev. | 18:09 |
| Riddell | but it could be said to oversee kubuntu-dev, check it is following corret process? | 18:09 |
| micahg | ScottK: right, but we need someone in the guise of admin/owner | 18:09 |
| ScottK | The actual model is recursive. | 18:10 |
| ScottK | I guess. | 18:10 |
| micahg | Riddell: some maybe just you and the developer-membership-board? | 18:10 |
| Riddell | nah having just me is bad practice | 18:10 |
| micahg | s/some/so/ | 18:10 |
| kubotu | micahg meant: "Riddell: so maybe just you and the developer-membership-board?" | 18:10 |
| ScottK | micahg: It should either be all kubuntu-dev or KC, not sure which is better. | 18:10 |
| Riddell | low bus factor, or french driver factor more likely | 18:10 |
| Riddell | I think kubuntu-council is fine, we'd not be making it a member | 18:11 |
| micahg | ScottK: I'm not comfortable with kubuntu-dev owning | 18:11 |
| ScottK | micahg: The approved group to approve new kubuntu-dev is kubuntu-dev, so it's just the same as DMB owning ubuntu-dev. | 18:12 |
| Riddell | hmm, we already have https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev-owner | 18:12 |
| micahg | ScottK: no, not exactly, in terms of the voting yes, but I'm not comfortable with all of them having rights to add new members | 18:13 |
| Riddell | micahg: "Pending members" "Ubuntu Developer Membership Board" | 18:13 |
| micahg | Riddell: looking | 18:14 |
| ScottK | That's probably the one to use then. | 18:14 |
| ScottK | micahg: It's no different than DMB member having the ability to add ubuntu-dev. They all do, don't they? | 18:15 |
| Riddell | dunno small groups are more reliable than large memberships for knowing what they should and shouldn't do | 18:16 |
| micahg | ScottK: yes, it is, the privilege is limited, the DMB is 8 people plus the 7 tech board members, kubuntu-dev is 80 people | 18:16 |
| micahg | Riddell: I can't accept an invite, I need to find a TB person to do that, can you make the team the owner of kubuntu-dev though? | 18:16 |
| Riddell | micahg: done | 18:17 |
| micahg | Riddell: thanks, I'll take care of the last piece | 18:18 |
| * Riddell uploads strigi different symbols and all | 18:20 | |
| Riddell | micahg: sorry for taking so long | 18:20 |
| micahg | Riddell: no problem, at least we got it done | 18:20 |
| Riddell | oh what have I messed up here? | 18:24 |
| Riddell | "/usr/include/GLES2/gl2.h:38:26: error: conflicting declaration 'typedef khronos_intptr_t GLintptr'" | 18:24 |
| Riddell | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/90222372/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-armhf.calligra_1%3A2.3.86-0ubuntu6_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 18:24 |
| Riddell | compiling with both openGL and openGLES | 18:25 |
| Riddell | ScottK: do you still have arm boxes I can ssh into and compile on? | 18:25 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Yes. Same ones, same location. | 18:28 |
| micahg | ScottK: FTR, ubuntu-desktop has a similar setup with approval and has a few trusted souls as admins | 18:48 |
| debfx | I think kubuntu-dev-owner shouldn't be a member of kubuntu-dev | 18:55 |
| debfx | that makes all council members kubuntu devs | 18:56 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 19:03 |
| Riddell | debfx: is it? | 19:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: do you still have that paste/files that implemented C sockets? | 20:00 |
| tim | hi, after today's update of kmail to 4:4.7.4+git111222-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1, akonadi seems to hang after a few minutes, not showing any new imap mails | 20:17 |
| Riddell | tim: ScottK ^^ | 20:17 |
| tim | is this a known issue? | 20:17 |
| Riddell | tim: where is that package from? | 20:17 |
| tim | one of the kubuntu ppas ... let me check | 20:18 |
| tim | most likely it is fro kubuntu updates | 20:21 |
| Riddell | tim: well I'm afraid I don't know about that issue but akonadi and kmail has a recent history of randomly breaking on updates | 20:26 |
| tim | Riddell: i'm very aware of that :( | 20:27 |
| Riddell | you can try with a new user, you can try downgrading, you can try upgrading to 4.8 RC or asking in user forums for help | 20:27 |
| tim | used to be a wonderful email client during the kmail1 days | 20:27 |
| tim | is there a ppa available for 4.8-rc on 11.10? | 20:28 |
| Riddell | see kubuntuorg | 20:29 |
| Riddell | dot | 20:29 |
| tim | ... or i create a cron-job to restart akonadi every 10 minutes ... | 20:33 |
| Riddell | and of course we do test it ourselves, it worked for me and others any bugs are likely upstreams so you'd need to work with them for a good diagnosis | 20:38 |
| tim | yes, i hope, it will be fixed in 4.8 ... | 20:48 |
| ScottK | Riddell: It's working fine for me. | 20:54 |
| BarkingFish | Riddell: Kmail broke the moment they started using akonadi with it :P | 21:04 |
| yofel | agreed | 21:04 |
| BarkingFish | I wish they would fix it frankly, i lost a years worth of email migrating from Kmail to Kmail2, and it took me three days worth of prodding and poking to get akonadi to finally work with it. A week later, it broke again and I switched to thunderbird. Right now, I wouldn't go back. | 21:05 |
| shadeslayer | Actually | 21:06 |
| BarkingFish | I have better things to do with my time than fight with my PC to get my email. | 21:06 |
| shadeslayer | KMail2 works perfectly for me | 21:06 |
| BarkingFish | you're one of the lucky ones, shadeslayer :) | 21:06 |
| shadeslayer | except in one instance where I tried to send mail using smtp via another user | 21:06 |
| shadeslayer | where the mail just went to the outbox ... I probably didn't give the user enough permissions | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | It still can't handle *large* volumes of Mail | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | works fine when you have something like 200-500 megs of mail | 21:07 |
| yofel | the one bug that prevents me from considering kmail2 for daily use is kde bug 277912 | 21:07 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 277912 in general "Can't use my IMAP account's trash folder " [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277912 | 21:07 |
| yofel | not like anyone's looking at it | 21:08 |
| ScottK | BarkingFish: kmail2 got a lot better about kdepim 4.7.3. | 21:21 |
| BarkingFish | ScottK: If it really does work, I'm happy to give it another try. I got it in 4.7.2 and it was toilet paper. | 21:23 |
| Riddell | hmm I seem to remember hearing problems about 4.7.3 and now tim has one with 4.7.4 so not perfect | 21:23 |
| Riddell | I had an issue the other day with 4.8 rc 2 where it wouldn't show the contents of e-mail but it has fixed itself now | 21:23 |
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| ScottK | Not saying it's great, just way better. | 21:24 |
| * ScottK used Thunderbird instead of 4.7.2, but found 4.7.3 was usable enough to go back. | 21:25 | |
| tim | hi again ... after upgrading to 4.8 i found out that dolphin has been rewritten ... and the column view has been removed. any idea if this is permanently? | 21:26 |
| Riddell | you would need to ask upstream, we only package it not write it :) | 21:27 |
| Riddell | he blogs quite a lot probably his blogs say something | 21:27 |
| Riddell | peter pernz | 21:27 |
| Riddell | peter perz | 21:27 |
| BarkingFish | Right ScottK - I'm gonna switch over to it. Let's see if it's gotten any better. | 21:34 |
| BarkingFish | I won't take thunderbird off though, in case I change my mind, which may be sooner rather than later | 21:34 |
| Riddell | but backup your e-mail first, just incase | 21:35 |
| BarkingFish | I'm keeping thunderbird live, don't need to back it up. | 21:35 |
| Riddell | needing packaging http://kdevelop.org/43/kdevelop-430-beta-released | 21:37 |
| Riddell | rekonq too I expect | 21:37 |
| shadeslayer | I can do kdevelop | 21:40 |
| BarkingFish | hm. I might be lucky. Looks like kmail is sorta working, and not being a pita. | 21:43 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: go go packager! | 21:44 |
| * shadeslayer puts his packager hat on | 21:44 | |
| BarkingFish | I would like to test or rebuild something, but after the last one, I'm a little demotivated. | 22:07 |
| BarkingFish | I'll just sit on the sidelines unless it's so easy that my Hamster could do it :) | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | Any ideas where I should put these : http://paste.kde.org/187580/ ? | 22:32 |
| shadeslayer | the libs can go into kdevplatform5-libs.install ... but where do I put the binaries? | 22:32 |
| nixternal | how goes the kubuntu peeps these days? | 22:36 |
| Riddell | hi nixternal | 22:36 |
| Riddell | some of us not in full health alas | 22:37 |
| Riddell | but slowly moving onwards | 22:37 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: what are the options? | 22:37 |
| shadeslayer | libsublime5 , kdevplatform5-libs, libsublime-dev and kdevplatform-dev | 22:38 |
| Riddell | oh kdevplatform ? | 22:39 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: kdevplatform5-libs should be ok for the binaries too | 22:40 |
| Riddell | and kdevplatform-dev for the header | 22:40 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 22:42 |
| nixternal | yeah, i have not been in full health myself after finishing up the 2011 cycling season. i am almost 100% and the 2012 cycling season starts this sunday :/ | 22:43 |
| BarkingFish | jeez. We're all falling apart, aren't we? :) | 22:43 |
| BarkingFish | lol | 22:43 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Heya. | 22:53 |
| ScottK | nixternal: You missed the meeting. We made fabo a kubuntu-dev today. | 22:53 |
| nixternal | howdy ScottK. yeah, i saw the email | 23:00 |
| shadeslayer | Okay, I've uploaded kdevplatform at https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+packages | 23:16 |
| shadeslayer | Will do the rest of kdevelop tomorrow | 23:17 |
| Riddell | thanks shadeslayer | 23:18 |
| shadeslayer | Night :) | 23:18 |
| BarkingFish | I was supposed to be attending that meeting, never got any notes or anything though. Didn't have any idea what I was meant to be raising :P | 23:37 |
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