[11:42] <Riddelll> time to upload qt I think!
[11:48] <debfx> has it been tested with unity-2d?
[11:49] <Riddelll> debfx: hmm agateau said it was good but I don't know if he tested it
[11:49] <Riddelll> agateau?
[12:11] <micahg> Riddelll: question about the qt4-x11 versioning, was that intended for the archive?
[12:15] <Riddelll> micahg: oh, drat, yet it was but obviously I should have removed the ppa
[12:15] <Riddelll> my head concussion is improving but clearly not fully recovered yet!
[12:16] <micahg> ok, at least it was intended for the archive :)
[12:16] <Riddelll> oh well, I'll reupload with the right number
[12:20] <agateau> Riddell: I haven't checked with unity-2d. Can do now.
[12:21] <Riddell> agateau: best be quick since it's uploaded now :)
[12:21] <agateau> Riddell: uhuh ok
[12:38] <agateau> Riddell: looks good so far. I have been using 4:4.8.0-1ubuntu1~ppa1, I assume the version pushed to the archive is similar
[12:45] <Riddell> yes it is
[15:39] <Riddell> is my phone number on the kubuntu.org site?
[15:39] <Riddell> had a phone call from someone asking if I was kubuntu support and saying the site listed me as such
[15:39] <jjesse> under press contact your number is listed
[15:39] <jjesse> http://www.kubuntu.org/contact-us
[15:57] <Riddell> jjesse: hah yes, poor guy must have been so desperate he didn't even read the words "Press Contact" on that page, I don't think it could be any clearer
[15:58] <jjesse> must have been having  some serious issues
[16:02] <Riddell> I've actually helped someone before who phoned me she sounded so desperate but my poor brain wouldn't be up to it today I think
[16:03] <Riddell> although apparantly I can order pizza on the phone which is too tricky for everyone else in my canoe club, funny how people's talents need nudging even for things I think are easy
[16:03] <Riddell> fabo: meeting in an hour?
[16:05] <Riddell> Tonio_, debfx, apachelogger, NCommander, Quintasan_, yofel, ScottK: fabo quiz meeting in an hour?
[16:05] <ScottK> Sure.
[16:05]  * yofel has time
[16:08] <Riddell> ScottK: do you remember the quorum and whatnot rules?  I keep forgetting
[16:08] <ScottK> IIRC at least three.
[16:08]  * ScottK looks
[16:09] <maco> if there are 7 people in that list, itd be 4 then?
[16:10] <ScottK> Riddell: "majority of those present and at least 3" votes.
[16:10] <Riddell> ScottK: thanks that sounds right
[16:11] <Riddell> maco: nah just a fixed number because there could be loads of kubuntu-dev who lose interest so we'd not get a majoity
[16:11] <ScottK> Exactly.
[16:11] <Riddell> anyway all this voting more unquakerly, we should be able to find the Right Thing to Do :)
[16:12] <ScottK> If there is a surprise when the vote is taken, we're doing it wrong.
[16:12] <Tonio_> Riddell: can't be there unfortunatelly
[16:12] <Tonio_> I have to go see the doctor, since I cut off one of my fingers
[16:12] <ScottK> Oh my!
[16:13] <maco> O_o
[16:13] <ScottK> Riddell: You might email the taco boy too.
[16:13] <Tonio_> actually I only lost about 1.5cm
[16:13] <ScottK> That's plenty.
[16:14] <Tonio_> yeah.... they  rebuilt it so that it'll look like a normal finger in the end
[16:14] <Tonio_> but it hurts like hell
[16:14]  * ScottK would have guessed so.  Good luck with it.
[16:15] <ScottK> BBIAB.
[16:16] <Tonio_> wouldn't be much of a problem if I didn't have surgery on the wrist, same hand, last month
[16:17] <Tonio_> because of the finger I couln't go through reeducation for the wrist, and it is now completly blocked
[16:17] <Tonio_> I can't move it, so I may have to go through surgery again :'(
[16:17] <Tonio_> that really sucks
[16:18] <Tonio_> I can't even old my little girl properly
[16:18] <Tonio_> hold
[16:18] <maco> you type with a french accent!
[16:18] <Tonio_> yeah, I know :)
[16:19] <Tonio_> Riddell: what about your health ? are you getting fully better ?
[16:20] <Riddell> Tonio_: erk, sorry to hear that, we're both unfortunate accident victims
[16:20] <Tonio_> yeah... well the wrist isn't an accident, I got problems with it for years
[16:20] <Riddell> Tonio_: yes thanks I can notice my brain improving, eye I don't know impossible to be objective until it's fully better I think but worst case that'll get surgery
[16:21] <Tonio_> just it is a lot worse after the surgery than it was before !
[16:21] <Tonio_> Riddell: no memory problems then ? that's nice, and obviously the most important
[16:21] <Riddell> Tonio_: oh and we both have to battle with french health system admins as well, poor us!
[16:21] <Tonio_> Riddell: you mean your eye doesn't "see" correctly ?
[16:21] <Tonio_> Riddell: yeah ;)
[16:22] <Tonio_> anyway they did a pretty good jobs from a technical perspective
[16:22] <Tonio_> https://picasaweb.google.com/110887763749878491062/11Janvier2012?locked=true#5696286599847902802
[16:22] <Tonio_> that's after the surgery
[16:22] <Tonio_> might look awfull, but compared to what is was before, that's really nice
[16:22] <Tonio_> it looks like a finger at least
[16:22] <Riddell> Tonio_: page is locked I think
[16:23] <Riddell> Tonio_: one eye had a muscle stretch and is squint so I get double vision, means I get to wear this cool eye patch http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/DSCF6511.JPG
[16:24] <Tonio_> Riddell: http://temp.toniox.org/IMG_2012-01-11_091940.jpg
[16:24] <Tonio_> Riddell: ouch.... that must be annoying as hell !!!
[16:25] <Tonio_> anyway you look pretty cool with the eye patch :)
[16:25] <Riddell> Tonio_: well it's not as bad as having a missing finger!
[16:25] <Tonio_> depends, actually :) I'm more concerned with the wrist
[16:25] <Tonio_> concequenses are way more annoying
[16:25] <Riddell> yeah
[16:26] <Tonio_> pain is nothing as long as it's temporary
[16:26] <Tonio_> currently, I can't drive properly, I can't go with the motorbike, I can't wash my baby, I can't do anything except from typing the keyboard :)
[16:26] <Tonio_> hopefully I can work
[16:27] <Tonio_> Riddell: as you can see I don't have a missing finger, they pulled it back
[16:27] <Tonio_> just it'll be long before looking like "normal"
[16:28] <Tonio_> but anyway, compared to a car accident, were you could have die, what happened to me is just nothing... I'm fine you're recovering
[16:28] <Riddell> yeah but I don't remember any of the scary bit :)
[16:31] <Tonio_> me neither
[16:31] <Tonio_> I remember the noise with the saw, and the feeling like "meat is getting desintegrated", but that's all, no images, no pain, nothing
[16:32] <Tonio_> the brain usually forgets nasty details ;)
[16:33] <Riddell> handy that
[16:38] <Tonio_> anyway I'm out doctor is waiting for me
[17:02] <Riddell> fabo: meeting?
[17:03] <fabo> Riddell: sure. I guess you start it
[17:04] <Riddell> onio_, debfx, apachelogger, NCommander, Quintasan_, yofel, ScottK: meeting?
[17:04] <Riddell> Tonio_
[17:04] <ScottK> \o
[17:04] <Riddell> one more needed
[17:05] <yofel> o/
[17:05] <Riddell> great
[17:05] <Riddell> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FathiBoudra/DeveloperApplication
[17:05] <Riddell> we'll just use here, quiz fabo and vote when we are happy to
[17:05] <debfx> \o
[17:05] <Riddell> fabo: tell us about yourself
[17:06] <Riddell> what's your experience, why do you want to contribute to kubuntu, what do you know or not know (also how does your job affect it)?
[17:06] <fabo> so I guess I know already many of you, most likely worked on Qt/KDE  related packages
[17:07] <fabo> I'm a linux user since 11 years
[17:07] <fabo> developer, contributor to some open source projects
[17:08] <fabo> guess that I'm mostly known here as a Debian developer and Qt/KDE maintainer
[17:08] <Riddell> we do love our debian qt/kde team
[17:09] <fabo> I indirectly contributed to Kubuntu so far :)
[17:09] <ScottK> So why apply now?
[17:09] <fabo> and would like to move a step further
[17:10] <fabo> I'm applying now because I want to go faster
[17:10] <fabo> when syncing/merging, I'm wasting your time
[17:10] <ScottK> What do you know about the Ubuntu release cycle?  When we have freezes, what they mean, etc.?
[17:11] <fabo> I could have done it earlier, but I've more time to do it now
[17:11] <fabo> mostly because of my Linaro work
[17:11] <EvilResistance> you should probably answer questions when they're posed to you :P
[17:11] <fabo> which makes me more involved in Ubuntu
[17:12] <yofel> EvilResistance: it's fine as long as he answers them
[17:13] <Riddell> fabo: do you know what kubuntu-dev does and doesn't let you upload?
[17:13] <fabo> as you know (or not), I represent Linaro at the Ubuntu release meeting and have a weekly sync meeting with skaet
[17:14] <fabo> I'm following closely the release cycle
[17:14] <fabo> I know what a freeze is, what process should be followed (exceptions)
[17:14] <fabo> for the dates, I'm referring to the wiki
[17:15]  * ScottK too (can never remember the dates)
[17:15] <fabo> kubuntu-dev maintains and can upload a set of packages (kubuntu related)
[17:15]  * Riddell has a handy year wall chart, quicker than loading a wiki page
[17:15] <fabo> indeed Qt/KDE packages
[17:16] <fabo> it's a limited set of packages and kubunt-dev can't upload random packages
[17:16] <ScottK> It's also not all Qt/KDE packages.  It's only the ones in the Kubuntu packageset.
[17:17] <ScottK> This is ~everything on the Kubuntu CD or DVD.
[17:17] <Riddell> fabo: what do you think of UDD?
[17:18] <Riddell> and actually my other questions, feel free to answer what you wish..
[17:18] <Riddell> can we work better with debian?
[17:18] <Riddell> why does strigi have different symbols on debian than ubuntu?
[17:19] <fabo> Riddell: unfortunately, not much to say about udd. I know what it stands for, the tools used...
[17:19] <ScottK> If a packager revision ends in build1, e.g. 4.7.4-2build1, what does the build1 mean?
[17:21] <fabo> actually, I don't have any idea how to work better with Debian. we have a lot of tools to help already. most likely we want to reduce differences even more
[17:22] <fabo> the symbols difference is strigi could be caused by different build dependency and could be also caused by the compiler
[17:22] <fabo> s/is/in
[17:23] <fabo> I could check and give you a more precise answer
[17:24] <fabo> build1 means that the package has been rebuilt (could be caused by a transition)
[17:25] <Riddell> I'm ready to vote, ScottK, debfx, yofel: any more questions?
[17:25]  * ScottK is ready.
[17:25]  * debfx too
[17:25] <yofel> me too
[17:26] <Riddell> I'm +1 for good knowledge, keen project interest and all round eliteness
[17:26] <ScottK> I'm +1 - Long time DD with excellent technical knowlege who's well familiar with K(U)buntu differences.
[17:27] <yofel> +1 for being a great help on the qt side
[17:27] <debfx> +1 from me too
[17:27] <Riddell> groovy, i think you're in fabo 
[17:27] <ScottK> fabo: Congratulations.  You're in.
[17:27] <fabo> \o/
[17:27] <fabo> thanks all
[17:28] <ScottK> Riddell: Do you want to write the emali to devel-permissions and such or should I?
[17:28] <fabo> let's make kubuntu rocks even more :)
[17:28]  * fabo and hopefully get my internet connection back soon
[17:28] <Riddell> ScottK: mm, what's that for?
[17:29] <debfx> congrats fabo!
[17:29] <fabo> debfx: thank you :)
[17:29] <ScottK> Riddell: It's the usual welcome email, plus they added a request to cc the devel-permissions list after another group got caught making new developers without following the process.
[17:30] <Riddell> hmm, I didn't know about that, I'd best learn and do it
[17:33] <ScottK> Shoot.  I can't find the list.
[17:33] <ScottK> micahg will know.
[17:34] <ScottK> Anyway, it's a welcome mail to kubuntu-devel/ubuntu-devel/the new developer and cc Mark Shuttleworth and the relevant DMB list that micahg will hopefully tell us.
[17:35]  * ScottK will leave it to you.
[17:35] <Riddell> ScottK: surely this list? https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/devel-permissions
[17:35] <shadeslayer> fabo: congrats
[17:35] <Riddell> I'm basing it on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2011-October/000300.html
[17:36] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.  that's the one.
[17:37] <fabo> shadeslayer: thanks!
[17:39] <Riddell> hmm 4.8 tag in two days
[17:40] <fabo> cool 4:4.8.0-1ubuntu1 :)
[17:40] <yofel> did anyone ever try to use ksecretservice? I didn't so far
[17:40] <fabo> there's a plasma active 3 meeting in 2 days
[17:41] <Riddell> fabo: physical meeting?
[17:41] <fabo> irc
[17:42] <fabo>  thursday 19 January 16:00 CET
[17:42]  * fabo needs to check why ubuntu-tv needs to rebuilt qtmobility
[17:42] <fabo> d
[17:43] <Riddell> ubuntu-tv uses qt?
[17:43] <fabo> Riddell: yes, qml based
[17:43] <Riddell> cool
[17:44] <Riddell> not as cool as using plasma but that's a business decision I guess
[17:44] <debfx> Riddell: I think we should split the amarok docs into amarok-l10n-<lang> packages. They eat 35MB in total.
[17:46] <yofel> does anyone plan to work on oxygen-gtk3 in the near future? If not I'll give it a shot
[17:46] <Riddell> debfx: they're currently part of the -common package?
[17:46] <debfx> yes
[17:47] <Riddell> fabo: this is what I was asking about earlier, http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/strigi_0.7.7-1ubuntu1.debdiff
[17:47] <Riddell> I got a load of missing symbols and used pkgsymbols and it's a big diff
[17:48] <Riddell> debfx: well spotted, have each lang-pack depend on the amarok-l10n-<lang> ?  I don't know how to do that, there are scripts which make those packages
[17:48] <Riddell> yofel: I think the issue with oxygen-gtk3 is the config
[17:49] <Riddell> there are packages around, check the irc logs, but it needs the config to be set up on first use I think
[17:49] <Riddell> would be great if you could take it
[17:49] <yofel> it does, the readme doesn't yield anything more than adding a ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini though
[17:49] <yofel> I'll look into it
[17:50] <debfx> Riddell: that strigi symbols diff seems to be caused by feeding only the i386 log into pkgkde symbols helper. does dpkg-gensymbols generate a diff when you use the debian symbols files?
[17:50] <Riddell> yofel: I expect there's no config GUI for KDE so you'd need to work out if that's needed and can be done easily or we can get away without it
[17:51] <yofel> without it gtk3 will look gtk1 style, so it's required it seems
[17:51] <Riddell> debfx: I am using the debian symbols files, I'm compiling on amd64
[17:56] <debfx> ok, so a lot of symbols disappeared
[17:56] <Riddell> debfx: build log of debian package on ubuntu
[17:56] <Riddell> http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/strigi_0.7.7-1_amd64.build
[17:57] <Riddell> only change is not build-dep on libavformat
[17:57] <JontheEchidna> meeting soon?
[17:57] <Riddell> yofel: yes I agree it's probably important (although I realise I've no idea what programmes are gtk3 and what are gtk 2 now)
[17:58] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: sorry you missed it, an hour ago
[17:58] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: he got in though
[17:58] <JontheEchidna> oops
[17:58] <Riddell> if you have questions you want answered just to test him quiz away
[17:58] <JontheEchidna> got my times mixed up
[17:58] <yofel> gnome is pretty much gtk3, firefox and thunderbird are the most used ones that are still gtk2 - dunno about the rest
[18:06] <micahg> ScottK: sorry, was afk
[18:06] <micahg> Riddell: since we're talking devs, can you fix the ownership of kubuntu-devel now?
[18:06] <Riddell> hmm, if you guide me through it
[18:06] <debfx> Riddell: no idea why so many symbols disappear on Ubuntu. they all seem harmless so I'd just remove them from the symbols files.
[18:06] <Riddell> new team
[18:07] <Riddell> make new team owned by kubuntu council and someone else?
[18:07] <Riddell> and make that team owner of kubuntu-dev?
[18:07] <micahg> Riddell: yeah, just make a team with  DMB and any other body that's supposed to approve kubuntu developers
[18:07] <Riddell> micahg?
[18:07] <micahg> Riddell: yep
[18:08] <micahg> Riddell: kubuntu council and developer-membership-board
[18:08] <Riddell> fiddly since kubuntu-dev is supported to approve itself!
[18:08] <Riddell> supposed
[18:08] <Riddell> call it kubuntu-dev-owner?
[18:09] <micahg> Riddell: hmm, well, does the KC oversee the process?
[18:09] <micahg> Riddell: yeah, that's fine
[18:09] <ScottK> Kubuntu-council doesn't approve kubuntu-dev.
[18:09] <ScottK> Kubuntu-dev approves kubuntu-dev.
[18:09] <Riddell> but it could be said to oversee kubuntu-dev, check it is following corret process?
[18:09] <micahg> ScottK: right, but we need someone in the guise of admin/owner
[18:10] <ScottK> The actual model is recursive.
[18:10] <ScottK> I guess.
[18:10] <micahg> Riddell: some maybe just you and the developer-membership-board?
[18:10] <Riddell> nah having just me is bad practice
[18:10] <micahg> s/some/so/
[18:10] <kubotu> micahg meant: "Riddell: so maybe just you and the developer-membership-board?"
[18:10] <ScottK> micahg: It should either be all kubuntu-dev or KC, not sure which is better.
[18:10] <Riddell> low bus factor, or french driver factor more likely
[18:11] <Riddell> I think kubuntu-council is fine, we'd not be making it a member
[18:11] <micahg> ScottK: I'm not comfortable with kubuntu-dev owning
[18:12] <ScottK> micahg: The approved group to approve new kubuntu-dev is kubuntu-dev, so it's just the same as DMB owning ubuntu-dev.
[18:12] <Riddell> hmm, we already have https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev-owner
[18:13] <micahg> ScottK: no, not exactly, in terms of the voting yes, but I'm not comfortable with all of them having rights to add new members
[18:13] <Riddell> micahg: "Pending members" "Ubuntu Developer Membership Board"
[18:14] <micahg> Riddell: looking
[18:14] <ScottK> That's probably the one to use then.
[18:15] <ScottK> micahg: It's no different than DMB member having the ability to add ubuntu-dev.  They all do, don't they?
[18:16] <Riddell> dunno small groups are more reliable than large memberships for knowing what they should and shouldn't do
[18:16] <micahg> ScottK: yes, it is, the privilege is limited, the DMB is 8 people plus the 7 tech board members, kubuntu-dev is 80 people
[18:16] <micahg> Riddell: I can't accept an invite, I need to find a TB person to do that, can you make the team the owner of kubuntu-dev though?
[18:17] <Riddell> micahg: done
[18:18] <micahg> Riddell: thanks, I'll take care of the last piece
[18:20]  * Riddell uploads strigi different symbols and all
[18:20] <Riddell> micahg: sorry for taking so long
[18:20] <micahg> Riddell: no problem, at least we got it done
[18:24] <Riddell> oh what have I messed up here?
[18:24] <Riddell> "/usr/include/GLES2/gl2.h:38:26: error: conflicting declaration 'typedef khronos_intptr_t GLintptr'"
[18:24] <Riddell> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/90222372/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-armhf.calligra_1%3A2.3.86-0ubuntu6_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[18:25] <Riddell> compiling with both openGL and openGLES 
[18:25] <Riddell> ScottK: do you still have arm boxes I can ssh into and compile on?
[18:28] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.  Same ones, same location.
[18:48] <micahg> ScottK: FTR, ubuntu-desktop has a similar setup with approval and has a few trusted souls as admins
[18:55] <debfx> I think kubuntu-dev-owner shouldn't be a member of kubuntu-dev
[18:56] <debfx> that makes all council members kubuntu devs
[19:03] <ScottK> Yep.
[19:14] <Riddell> debfx: is it?
[20:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: do you still have that paste/files that implemented C sockets?
[20:17] <tim> hi, after today's update of kmail to 4:4.7.4+git111222-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1, akonadi seems to hang after a few minutes, not showing any new imap mails
[20:17] <Riddell> tim: ScottK ^^
[20:17] <tim> is this a known issue?
[20:17] <Riddell> tim: where is that package from?
[20:18] <tim> one of the kubuntu ppas ... let me check
[20:21] <tim> most likely it is fro kubuntu updates
[20:26] <Riddell> tim: well I'm afraid I don't know about that issue but akonadi and kmail has a recent history of randomly breaking on updates
[20:27] <tim> Riddell: i'm very aware of that :(
[20:27] <Riddell> you can try with a new user, you can try downgrading, you can try upgrading to 4.8 RC or asking in user forums for help
[20:27] <tim> used to be a wonderful email client during the kmail1 days
[20:28] <tim> is there a ppa available for 4.8-rc on 11.10?
[20:29] <Riddell> see kubuntuorg
[20:29] <Riddell> dot
[20:33] <tim> ... or i create a cron-job to restart akonadi every 10 minutes ... 
[20:38] <Riddell> and of course we do test it ourselves, it worked for me and others  any bugs are likely upstreams so you'd need to work with them for a good diagnosis
[20:48] <tim> yes, i hope, it will be fixed in 4.8 ... 
[20:54] <ScottK> Riddell: It's working fine for me.
[21:04] <BarkingFish> Riddell: Kmail broke the moment they started using akonadi with it :P   
[21:04] <yofel> agreed
[21:05] <BarkingFish> I wish they would fix it frankly, i lost a years worth of email migrating from Kmail to Kmail2, and it took me three days worth of prodding and poking to get akonadi to finally work with it. A week later, it broke again and I switched to thunderbird. Right now, I wouldn't go back.
[21:06] <shadeslayer> Actually
[21:06] <BarkingFish> I have better things to do with my time than fight with my PC to get my email.
[21:06] <shadeslayer> KMail2 works perfectly for me
[21:06] <BarkingFish> you're one of the lucky ones, shadeslayer :)
[21:06] <shadeslayer> except in one instance where I tried to send mail using smtp via another user
[21:07] <shadeslayer> where the mail just went to the outbox ... I probably didn't give the user enough permissions
[21:07] <shadeslayer> It still can't handle *large* volumes of Mail
[21:07] <shadeslayer> works fine when you have something like 200-500 megs of mail
[21:07] <yofel> the one bug that prevents me from considering kmail2 for daily use is kde bug 277912
[21:08] <yofel> not like anyone's looking at it
[21:21] <ScottK> BarkingFish: kmail2 got a lot better about kdepim 4.7.3.
[21:23] <BarkingFish> ScottK: If it really does work, I'm happy to give it another try. I got it in 4.7.2 and it was toilet paper.
[21:23] <Riddell> hmm I seem to remember hearing problems about 4.7.3 and now tim has one with 4.7.4 so not perfect
[21:23] <Riddell> I had an issue the other day with 4.8 rc 2 where it wouldn't show the contents of e-mail but it has fixed itself now
[21:24] <ScottK> Not saying it's great, just way better.
[21:25]  * ScottK used Thunderbird instead of 4.7.2, but found 4.7.3 was usable enough to go back.
[21:26] <tim> hi again ... after upgrading to 4.8 i found out that dolphin has been rewritten ... and the column view has been removed. any idea if this is permanently?
[21:27] <Riddell> you would need to ask upstream, we only package it not write it :)
[21:27] <Riddell> he blogs quite a lot probably his blogs say something
[21:27] <Riddell> peter pernz
[21:27] <Riddell> peter perz
[21:34] <BarkingFish> Right ScottK - I'm gonna switch over to it. Let's see if it's gotten any better.
[21:34] <BarkingFish> I won't take thunderbird off though, in case I change my mind, which may be sooner rather than later
[21:35] <Riddell> but backup your e-mail first, just incase
[21:35] <BarkingFish> I'm keeping thunderbird live, don't need to back it up.
[21:37] <Riddell> needing packaging http://kdevelop.org/43/kdevelop-430-beta-released
[21:37] <Riddell> rekonq too I expect
[21:40] <shadeslayer> I can do kdevelop
[21:43] <BarkingFish> hm. I might be lucky. Looks like kmail is sorta working, and not being a pita. 
[21:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: go go packager!
[21:44]  * shadeslayer puts his packager hat on
[22:07] <BarkingFish> I would like to test or rebuild something, but after the last one, I'm a little demotivated.  
[22:08] <BarkingFish> I'll just sit on the sidelines unless it's so easy that my Hamster could do it :)
[22:32] <shadeslayer> Any ideas where I should put these : http://paste.kde.org/187580/ ?
[22:32] <shadeslayer> the libs can go into kdevplatform5-libs.install ... but where do I put the binaries?
[22:36] <nixternal> how goes the kubuntu peeps these days?
[22:36] <Riddell> hi nixternal 
[22:37] <Riddell> some of us not in full health alas
[22:37] <Riddell> but slowly moving onwards
[22:37] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what are the options?
[22:38] <shadeslayer> libsublime5 , kdevplatform5-libs, libsublime-dev and kdevplatform-dev
[22:39] <Riddell> oh kdevplatform ?
[22:40] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kdevplatform5-libs should be ok for the binaries too
[22:40] <Riddell> and kdevplatform-dev for the header
[22:42] <shadeslayer> okay
[22:43] <nixternal> yeah, i have not been in full health myself after finishing up the 2011 cycling season. i am almost 100% and the 2012 cycling season starts this sunday :/
[22:43] <BarkingFish> jeez. We're all falling apart, aren't we? :)
[22:43] <BarkingFish> lol
[22:53] <ScottK> nixternal: Heya.
[22:53] <ScottK> nixternal: You missed the meeting.  We made fabo a kubuntu-dev today.
[23:00] <nixternal> howdy ScottK. yeah, i saw the email
[23:16] <shadeslayer> Okay, I've uploaded kdevplatform at https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+packages
[23:17] <shadeslayer> Will do the rest of kdevelop tomorrow
[23:18] <Riddell> thanks shadeslayer 
[23:18] <shadeslayer> Night :)
[23:37] <BarkingFish> I was supposed to be attending that meeting, never got any notes or anything though.   Didn't have any idea what I was meant to be raising :P