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pittiGood morning05:23
arrrghhhcan i change my username?  or do i have to create a new user...?05:29
arrrghhhi know i can change the hostname05:31
TheMusoHey pitti. How was your trip back?05:34
pittiTheMuso: rather uneventful; got libgnome-keyring introspection working :)05:34
pittiTheMuso: you made it back in one piece?05:34
TheMusopitti: yes thanks, got back this morning Sydney time.05:35
arrrghhhanyone?  can i change my username, or is it easier to just create a new account?06:01
TheMusoI still feel generally wakeful, but my brain still feels a little like mush. A good night sleep should solve that.06:01
BigWhaleMorning.06:02
pittiarrrghhh: we don't have a GUI tool for it; if you are comfortable with it, you can hand-edit it in /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, and rename your /home/oldname to /home/newname06:02
arrrghhhpitti, i don't mind, i have an ubuntu-server install.  thanks!06:05
arrrghhhpitti, uhm... which should i edit first?06:11
arrrghhhi edited /etc/passwd first, i think that i'm in trouble now.06:11
pittiarrrghhh: doesn't matter; just keep a root shell to do all three steps06:11
arrrghhhcrap.06:12
arrrghhhi changed /etc/passwd with sudo ...06:12
pittiarrrghhh: reboot into rescue mode, and finish it up there?06:13
arrrghhhheh.  i'll try.  this is a vm.06:13
pittidobey: I have libgnome-keyring introspection patches now, all sent upstream; do you need this RSN (-> can do an ubuntu upload) or ok to wait for a few days to land this upstream?06:14
arrrghhhpitti, how do i get to recovery mode?06:17
pittiarrrghhh: reboot, press shift during boot to get into the grub menu, select "recovery"06:18
pittiyou need to grab the keyboard for this (ctrl+alt in KVM)06:18
didrocksgood morning06:23
arrrghhhpitti, ok in recovery now.  thanks, will try to finish thi.06:24
arrrghhhthis*06:24
TheMusoMorning didrocks, hope your travels were uneventful.06:55
didrocksHey TheMuso. Yeah, it was perfect! yourself?06:55
TheMusodidrocks: Uneventful as well thanks, flew in this morning Sydney time.06:55
TheMusoStill feel very muc awake, but with a brain of mush. Should be back on deck tomorrow after a good sleep tonight.06:56
didrocksyeah, a good sleep fixes everything most of the time :)06:57
pittihey didrocks07:09
didrockshey pitti, how was your travel?07:12
pittididrocks: fairly quiet; hacked on libgnome-keyring introspection :)07:12
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didrocksheh ;)07:16
* didrocks worked on the nautilus patch, merging the 2 quicklist with a quicklist proxy handler07:17
tjaaltonis there still no a capplet for default apps or font settings?07:22
tjaaltonoh, found the default apps one07:22
didrocksyeah, in the info capplet :)07:23
didrocksnothing for the font though07:23
tjaaltonhardly discoverable :)07:23
tjaaltonyeah, ok07:23
seb128hey08:52
didrockssalut seb128, bien rentré?08:52
seb128lut didrocks, nickel oui, et toi ?08:53
pittibonjour seb12808:53
didrocksseb128: très bien :)08:53
seb128hey pitti, how are you?08:53
pittiseb128: I'm great, thanks!08:53
pittihad a rather quiet Sunday, I was really tired08:53
seb128getting over my ubuflu, I blame it on desrt, starting to be better but I think I had fever for a few days this time08:54
didrocksblaming you for feeling the ubuflu there :)08:54
seb128:-(08:56
mvodidrocks: hi, what package contains the tool that checks if unity is supported on the current machine?09:15
didrocksmvo: it's in nux (nux-tools)09:16
didrockshey ;)09:16
mvocool, thanks09:17
didrocksyw :)09:17
pittiseb128: for bug 912707, do you know anything which modifies /etc/gnome/defaults.list ?09:27
ubot2`Launchpad bug 912707 in desktop-file-utils "upgrade manager prompts to resolve conflict in /etc/gnome/defaults.list" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91270709:27
pittiseb128: I don't see any maint script on my computer which touches it, but perhaps it's done in some control-center thingy09:28
seb128pitti, no, nothing should modify it09:28
seb128that file is meant to be the distributor one09:28
seb128not the one to edit09:28
seb128the mimeapps.list is the one softwares, etc edit09:28
tkamppeterpitti, hi09:29
pittiseb128: asking for info09:29
pittihey tkamppeter, how are you?09:29
seb128pitti, danke09:29
tkamppeterpitti, fine.09:29
seb128pitti, none of the GNOME tools do system edit btw, only user settings changes09:30
pittiseb128: what I thought; thanks!09:30
seb128yw!09:31
tkamppeterpitti, I have committed a change to the CUPS package: I migrated the "usb" backend to libusb 1.0.x as 0.1.x is deprecated and unmaintained (we should do that with all packages to not let it go into the LTS) and also did a fix for USB->Parallel adapter support (bug 910272). Can you upload CUPS to Debian and Precise so that the changes get tested? Thanks.09:32
ubot2`Launchpad bug 910272 in cups "USB->Parallel adapter produces crappy device URI and CUPS "usb" backend cannot cope with it" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91027209:32
tkamppeterpitti, s/to not let it go into the LTS/to not let the old libusb go into the LTS/09:33
pittitkamppeter: nice, thanks! sure, can do09:33
pittitkamppeter: hm, do you have uncommitted changes? the changelog mentions changing the build dep to libusb-1.0-dev, but you didn't09:35
nerochiarogreyback_: good morning. quick question: what do you think about moving the logic related to DashDeclarativeView::updateDashModeDependingOnScreenGeometry and WindowHelperPrivate::updateDashCanResize into DashClient, so that anyone using DashClient can know if the dash can resize at any time from anywhere, instead of duplicating the checks ?09:40
greyback_nerochiaro: morning! I agree that those two methods are pretty much the same.09:47
nerochiarogreyback_: ok, i'll move merge them then, as part of the shell stuff09:48
greyback_nerochiaro: great, thank you09:49
nerochiaroyw09:49
nerochiarogreyback_: how was budapest btw ?09:49
tkamppeterpitti, forgot to overtake that from my PPA package. Done now.09:50
smspillaznerochiaro: holy.... that is a loonnng function name09:50
greyback_nerochiaro: it was good. Always great to talk with people IRL, got good decisions & plans made09:50
greyback_smspillaz: lol yeah, but it does exactly what the label says :)09:51
nerochiarosmspillaz: yeah. gotta think of something shorter :)09:51
smspillazindeed09:51
nerochiarogreyback_: and lots of beers drank, i imagine09:52
greyback_nerochiaro: just a couple ;)09:52
nerochiaro;)09:52
nerochiarogreyback_: when the dash is up the menubar buttons in the panel should be only close and toggle_maximize, right ?09:56
nerochiarono minimize for the dash09:56
greyback_nerochiaro: right, minimize button should be disabled/greyed out. We've not got the visuals right yet09:57
nerochiarogreyback_: i'll leave what you have for now, but don't do anything on the minimize button if the dash is up. i'll leave it up to you to remove/grey it out, ok ?09:58
greyback_nerochiaro: ok09:58
greyback_nerochiaro: you're working in unity-2d-shell branch all the time, yeah?09:59
nerochiarogreyback_: right now yes. that and feature branches of it where i try to close the gap between it and trunk as quick as possible10:00
nerochiaroso we can merge as soon as the two are at the same point10:00
greyback_nerochiaro: ok. I skimmed through it last week, were a few things I didn't understand. Will be asking you stuff later :)10:01
nerochiarogreyback_: anytime10:01
greyback_nerochiaro: cheers10:02
pittitkamppeter: uploaded10:04
BigWhaleI think I am finished with Gth3 support for Kazam. Yay!10:04
BigWhaleThat's Gtk :>10:04
nerochiarogreyback_: also what I don't understand is what  the dash form factor key in DashSettings is supposed to be used for. As I understood it it should be to set the default form factor, but in the current code in WindowHelper it seems to be used as a means to communicate to the dash the current form factor (on maximize/unmaximize), which seems a bit wrong10:05
nerochiaroi mean using dconf as IPC basically10:05
nerochiaroi'd rather keep the dconf key for the default/initial value and use DBUS for telling the dash from the panel to change form factor10:06
greyback_nerochiaro: yeah I'm wondering the same. I don't see why this was done really10:06
nerochiaroprobably because it was the simplest thing. but i'll go with dbus, if that's ok with you10:07
greyback_nerochiaro: it is, using dbus is a better idea10:07
nerochiarook10:07
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tkamppeterpitti, thanks.10:30
pittivuntz: merci for the patch review! will get back to this ASAP10:40
chrisccoulson_good morning desktoppers10:48
chrisccoulson_bit late for me this morning :/10:48
seb128hey chrisccoulson_!10:48
seb128how are you?10:48
chrisccoulson_hi seb12810:49
chrisccoulson_i'm good thanks, how are you?10:49
seb128did you manage to go back to boring uk? ;-)10:49
seb128I'm fine, getting over my ubufly10:49
seb128ubuflu10:49
chrisccoulson_yeah, i was pretty glad to get back10:49
seb128it's better since yesterday10:49
chrisccoulson_it's amazing that i spend nearly as much time getting home from europe as i do getting home from the US10:50
chrisccoulson_Sweetshark!10:50
chrisccoulson_did you wake up in the end?10:51
chrisccoulson_i got you a wake up call when i checked out ;)10:51
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seb128chrisccoulson, did you do anything fancy on saturday?10:52
chrisccoulsonseb128, we just walked around to do some sightseeing and had lunch in a nice italian restaurant10:53
seb128chrisccoulson, ok, sounds nice ;-)10:54
tkamppeterpitti, can you have a look at bug 911371? It is a bug in p11-kit (PolicyKit?) which causes many crashes in the components of CUPS and system-config-printer.11:53
ubot2Launchpad bug 911371 in p11-kit "applet.py crashed with SIGSEGV in lookup_or_create_bucket()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91137111:53
pittitkamppeter: do you know how to reproduce this by any chance?12:03
tkamppeterpitti, no, I never encountered the problem by myself.12:04
pittithere's a new upstream version which we might want to try12:04
tkamppeterpitti, perhaps this could help. The problem seems to be only in Precise, so fix by new upstream version is no problem.12:06
pittithere's not a lot of commits12:06
pittihttp://cgit.freedesktop.org/p11-glue/p11-kit/commit/?id=2da833b0ca9539c12745d2f9fef1e7be7c7792dc is the only one interesting12:06
* pitti checks if our version was built with gcc 4.6.112:07
pittihm, it wasn't12:07
pittitkamppeter: duping to bug 911436, this has more info12:10
ubot2Launchpad bug 911436 in p11-kit "https crashed with SIGSEGV in lookup_or_create_bucket()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91143612:10
tkamppeterpitti, thanks.12:14
tkamppeterpitti, if I run any utility of CUPS (like "lpstat -r") I get a warning "WARNING: gnome-keyring:: no socket to connect to" before I get the answer of the utility. Can this have to do with this p11-kit bug?12:15
seb128pitti, one reason for the bug "could" be upgrades12:15
pittiyes, above bug shows that it happens during upgrades12:16
seb128pitti, it seems like similar issue were due to nonmulti to multiarch transitions breaking running instances12:16
pittitkamppeter: maybe, but it's not that likely12:16
seb128like the paths change under the running code12:16
pittitkamppeter: do you have gnome-keyring-daemon running?12:17
tkamppeterpitti: till@till-precise:~$ ps auxwww | grep keyring12:18
tkamppetertill      1548  0.0  0.1 106564  3732 ?        Sl   Jan15   0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login12:18
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chrisccoulsonurgh: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/+build/309457912:54
chrisccoulsongood job that maverick will be EOL before these builds are released12:54
chrisccoulson../../../dist/include/nsCOMPtr.h:316: internal compiler error: in tree_nrv, at tree-nrv.c:14312:54
chrisccoulsonnice12:54
chrisccoulsoni guess i should just kill these builds on maverick now12:54
chrisccoulsonactually12:55
chrisccoulsonwhen is maverick EOL?12:55
micahgApr 1012:55
chrisccoulsoncool12:56
* chrisccoulson kills maverick nightlies12:56
micahgchrisccoulson: any idea about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webdeveloper/+bug/904594/comments/10, I was going to break it out into a separate bug later today12:57
ubot2Launchpad bug 904594 in mozilla-devscripts "Tracking bug for Firefox 9 transition in Lucid/Maverick" [Medium,Fix committed]12:57
chrisccoulsonask him to ask on askubuntu or the support tracker. i'd bet money that it turns out to actually not be a bug, but he's done something strange with the launcher or in his profiles.ini ;)12:59
micahgwell, I'll try to reproduce when I test, I wouldn't block on the remote open case in any event13:00
ogra_chrisccoulson, geez !!! what did you do to firefox on arm ???13:03
chrisccoulsonogra_, i don't do anything to firefox on arm. how come?13:03
ogra_well, it works !13:04
ogra_and is fast !13:04
micahgwhich release?13:04
ogra_faster than chromium !13:04
ogra_recent precise, updated today13:04
micahgthat rocks13:04
chrisccoulsoni haven't changed anything at all ;)13:04
micahgalthough Chromium is 2 releases behind stable :)13:04
ogra_and it doesnt grind my ac100 to a halt if i have 20 tabs open (in 512M)13:04
chrisccoulsoncool!13:05
ogra_it seriously improved13:05
micahgactually, armel is 3 stable releases behind13:05
micahgfor chromium that is13:05
ogra_yeah, i know :(13:05
ogra_i thoght viku would go on working on it and we could just pull his fixes in ... but it seems he had other important stuff to do after getting it to cross build13:06
micahgogra_: well, he fixed it, but it uses the system vpx which we don't use in the archive so we don't have to update libvpx post release, but maybe I can pull it in temporarily use that just to get it to build, but at the moment, even i386 won't build on precise13:08
ogra_yeah, i heard that13:08
ogra_well, i switched to FF today because the chromium binary we have doesnt get along well with the nvidia-tegra binary driver we have13:09
ogra_at some point i always get pixmap artefacts all over the desktop and font corruption13:09
ogra_seems FF doesnt have that prob ...13:09
ogra_might be a general webkit vs tegra driver issue though, i need to test other webkit apps13:10
* ogra_ doesnt want to blame chromium before he is sure13:10
chrisccoulsonheh13:11
chrisccoulsoni don't even have chromium installed anymore13:11
ogra_well, it used to eat much less ram and be faster on arm13:12
chrisccoulsonit eats a lot of ram on my machine ;)13:12
tjaaltonugh, compiz takes 3,5g13:21
chrisccoulsonpitti - what creates the /var/run and /var/lock symlinks when upgrading from something older than oneiric?13:41
chrisccoulsoni did a natty to oneiric upgrade last night (our home desktop), but those weren't created13:41
chrisccoulsonand pretty much nothing worked afterwards13:41
seb128chrisccoulson, base-files?13:46
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, i just found that out now :)13:46
pittichrisccoulson: /var/lib/dpkg/info/initscripts.postinst13:49
pittiit's supposed to set up a few symlinks/bind mouts13:49
pittichrisccoulson: actually no, I think it's /etc/init/mounted-var.conf13:50
chrisccoulsonah, thanks13:51
chrisccoulsoni wonder why that didn't work then :/13:52
chrisccoulsoni had to boot in recovery mode and create them manually13:52
tjaaltonchrisccoulson: since upgrade to precise my firefox session crashes, worked on oneiric. is there a way to find which of the 150+ tabs is the culprit?-)13:58
chrisccoulsontjaalton, not really. did you submit the crash with the crash reporter?13:59
tjaaltonchrisccoulson: yeah13:59
chrisccoulsoni don't think there's an easy way to figure out exactly which tab is the problem14:00
seb128isn't firefox supposed to not auto reload tabs on opening?14:01
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tjaaltonseb128: it asks what to do14:02
tjaaltonI could start a new session, but..14:02
seb128no, I meant I though that it was opening the tabs but not loading their content14:03
seb128until you select them14:03
tjaaltonah14:03
dobeytjaalton: for how long has your profile been intact?14:03
tjaaltonwell, yes and no14:03
dobey(also, 150+ tabs? really?)14:03
tjaaltonseb128: seems like it does load tab contents of the current window though14:04
dobeyseb128: i thought it just loaded them in the background. it always seemed to for me14:04
tjaaltondobey: maybe 200+, haven't counted :)14:04
seb128dobey, could be an option14:04
dobeytjaalton: why do you have so many tabs?14:04
tjaaltondobey: because I can? :)14:05
dobeytjaalton: do you stab yourself in the leg, every time you pick up a knife?14:05
tjaaltonhehe14:06
dobeybecause you can :)14:06
dobeyanyway, if you have a fairly old firefox profile that's been migrated through several firefox verions, you could have a bad piece of data in it causing the crash14:07
tjaaltonwell, I could probably use separate sessions for different stuff (work/personal etc), but that would complicate things14:07
tjaaltonworked fine with 9.0 on oneiric14:07
tjaaltonbut anyway14:07
seb128likely a bug, give the upstream bug report to chrisccoulson, maybe he knows what the issue is ;-)14:07
tjaaltondoes it open an upstream bug report that's public=14:08
tjaalton?14:08
dobeytjaalton: or you could use these wonderful features called "bookmarks" and "history" or something14:08
seb128tjaalton, there is a way to get the report id and to see the stacktrace14:08
seb128tjaalton, their db is public, they just have the function names in their stacktraces I think14:09
tjaaltonseb128: ok14:09
seb128well not sure, I know chrisccoulson asked me for report ids in the past to show where the issue was14:09
tjaaltonlooks like this profile was created march last year14:09
tjaalton+in14:10
chrisccoulsonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs#Submitting_Crashes_to_Mozilla ;)14:10
tjaaltonwhoa, thanks14:11
tjaaltonhuh, I'll try disabling icedtea then14:12
tjaaltonwish there was a javablocker :)14:13
dobeyi wish there was a good java plug-in in ubuntu again14:14
dobeysomeone needs to package the oracale java 7 stuff14:14
tjaaltonis it distributable?14:15
pittididrocks: see, one unity upload and you are first on http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/precise-fixes-report.html again :)14:15
dobeyi don't know14:15
dobeyit's at least as distributable as flash is i guess14:15
dobeywget http://oracle.com/blah/blah in postinst is fine by me14:16
tjaaltonwell, if opejdk is supposed to be the reference these days..14:16
tjaaltonso they share the same bugs :)14:16
dobeyyes, but iced tea is slow and uses too much cpu/ram, and generally not good :-/14:17
didrockspitti: yeah, I saw that on saturday. No fun, was too easy :)14:20
seb128didrocks, stop working on saturdays!14:20
seb128;-)14:21
* pitti stops fixing bugs then14:21
didrocksseb128: well, there was time at the airport, there was this unity quicklist with a non designed dbusmenu quicklist API to have different sources, and there was didrocks who was getting bored :)14:21
didrocksseemed a good match at the time! ;)14:21
seb128pitti, heh, I still want to play with you, I'm catching back slowly but I'm getting there :p14:22
pittiheh, I know the feeling; train rides are an excellent time for getting stuff done14:22
pittihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/~pitti/+assignedbugs still has 10 "fix committed", hehe14:22
tjaaltonchrisccoulson: hey, that did it.. purging icedtea-plugin helped, the upstream report is here just for reference https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-b02b9e9e-2b48-47a2-aeff-eb1ec212011614:22
pittibut I guess by the time I get them in, Didier gets another 50 :)14:22
dobeypitti: few days for the keyring introspection is fine i guess. i'm not sure why you think i need it though. :)14:23
pittidobey: ah, I think I meant ken14:23
didrockspitti: I have bugs on my plate (personal ones ;)) I can upload in a few and totally defer every hope you can have! (loud laugh sound) :)14:24
dobeypitti: also today is a us holiday. :)14:25
pittiseb128: could you do the meeting stuff tomorrow? I'm off (swap day) to lose two teeth14:26
seb128pitti, sure14:26
pittiseb128: merci14:26
seb128yw, I hope it goes well for you!14:26
pittithanks14:27
didrockspitti: good luck for tomorrow then!14:28
* pitti hugs didrocks14:28
* didrocks hugs pitti back14:28
tjaaltondobey: i lost count, but seems there is closer to 290 tabs :)14:32
dobeytjaalton: you need an organizational consultant. Do you have like 64GB of RAM? you're probably just constantly hitting OOM.14:33
tjaaltondobey: oh, one window (of 7) was minimized, so it's over 33014:35
tjaaltononce a few projects are ready, I can close "several"14:35
dobey14:35
tjaaltonthe browser takes 2G14:36
tjaaltonGB14:36
tjaaltonthe feature behind shift+ctrl+e got me spoiled ;)14:37
Sweetshark_re14:55
* Sweetshark_ is at a location where he cant access his normal IRC box. So if you pinged me, please do again (or send me a mail).14:59
seb128chrisccoulson, http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-desktop/commit/?id=a81bd53c44a0785373ba9fba543556e3c4e1243115:06
seb128"gnome_rr_screen_new() now creates a singleton for the specified GdkScreen"15:06
seb128chrisccoulson, seems similar to the g-s-d fixes you worked on previous cycle ;-)15:06
chrisccoulsonheh15:07
seb128chrisccoulson, we should probably backport it for precise if we don't update gnome-desktop this cycle15:09
chrisccoulsonseb128, we still have the patch in gsd which does this though, don't we?15:09
seb128chrisccoulson, right we have15:10
seb128but it might be better to take the upstream gnome-desktop patch and drop the gsd one?15:10
chrisccoulsoni guess that we could do15:10
seb128well low priority in any case but it makes one less patch to forward for you :p15:11
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pittiSweetshark_: hey15:43
pittiSweetshark_: I created a bug about libo's newly grown dependencies and assigned it to you, FYI15:43
pittiSweetshark_: seems some of the remaining delta was still necessary15:44
Sweetshark_pitti: bug-id?15:44
pittibug 91672615:45
ubot2Launchpad bug 916726 in libreoffice "Drop extra Java dependencies from 3.5.0~beta2-2ubuntu3" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91672615:45
Sweetshark_pitti: thx15:45
pittiSweetshark_: upgrade worked fine :)15:46
pittiSweetshark_: I removed the libo-l10n source package, FYI15:46
Sweetshark_pitti: great!15:46
Sweetshark_pitti: yes, /me it "git rebase"-ing the changes between ubuntu2 and ubuntu3 to a halfway sensible history ...15:47
Sweetshark_pitti: after that I will take a look at the remaining debirs to clean up15:47
Sweetshark_once a bug gets a few more comments, people seem to think it is ok to dump random unrelated complains into them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/915271/comments/58 :/15:49
ubot2Launchpad bug 915271 in libreoffice "package libreoffice-core 1:3.4.4-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: rmdir: failed to remove `usr/lib/libreoffice/basis3.4/program/': Directory not empty" [Critical,Fix released]15:49
pittiSweetshark_: easy enough to ignore :)15:50
pittitkamppeter: hplip recently started to pull in python-reportlab-accell, python-reportlab, python-renderpm; any chance that these can get removed again?15:56
pittitkamppeter: grew by 0.6 MB15:57
pittitkamppeter: it also newly pulls in printer-driver-{hpijs,hpcups}, but I figure these are renames?15:58
pittineed to leave now, see you tomorrow!16:00
pittior, rather, on Wednesday; will be off tomorrow16:00
seb128ok, version is fixed, the "list sponsoring bug" was buggy16:03
chrisccoulsonprecise is boring. can i break it please?16:27
chrisccoulsoni don't want to be using a system that works every day16:27
smspillazXD16:29
Sweetshark_chrisccoulson: You shouldnt break precise more then once per 200 binary packages.16:30
seb128chrisccoulson, run the dx daily ppa?16:30
chrisccoulsonSweetshark_, heh ;)16:31
chrisccoulsonseb128, oh, is that broken?16:31
chrisccoulsonin any case, anything with "daily" in the title is good16:32
Sweetshark_.oO(if that would be the case, I would be allowed to break it again with the next upload)16:32
seb128chrisccoulson, I guess it has an higher chance to be broken than precise ;-)16:32
chrisccoulsonbring it on!16:33
seb128lol16:33
didrocksphew, finished the nautilus ql implementation in a clean way :)16:41
seb128didrocks, congrats ;-)16:43
didrocksseb128: thanks ;) making a final build, then, installing it there for the rest of the day (probably will upload later or tomorrow)16:44
didrocksit was "fun" with all this "I remove your bookmarks, all of them"16:44
seb128didrocks, if you want a second tester push to the vcs, I can do a local build16:44
didrocksseb128: oh, with pleasure!16:44
seb128ok, so push and I will build it there16:44
didrocksbumping the changelog, one minute16:44
didrocksseb128: pushed16:46
seb128didrocks, ok, building, I will get something to drink while it's working ;-)16:47
didrocksseb128: say my code is so bad that you need to booze :-)16:50
seb128lol16:50
didrocksseb128: basically, you should check the interaction when you copy big files (you have the copy dialog and 2 additional quicklist entries)16:55
seb128didrocks, let me try, small comments compared to the bug report summary, you lack a "open a new dialog" as the first entry of the list16:57
seb128didrocks, the sorting seems weird as well but the bug is not really clear on how stuff should be sorted, I would at least think xdg locations should be in alphabetic order16:57
didrocksseb128: oh, a static quicklist then, easy enough to add :)16:57
didrocksseb128: I set the sorting the same than in nautilus, as you can reorder, this makes more sense IMHO16:58
didrocksoh, at least for the bookmarks, maybe the places aren't sorted the same way16:58
seb128didrocks, no it's not for the xdg places16:59
seb128the quicklist is in random order, the nautilus sidepanel is in alphabetic order16:59
seb128one of the distro patches I added is to sort in locale alphabetic order rather than english order16:59
didrocksnot here "Dossier personnel" is the first in nautilus and "bureau" follows16:59
didrockscorbeille is the last17:00
seb128didrocks, I think neither corbeille nor dossier personnel are xdg dirs17:00
seb128didrocks, the xdg dirs are those in .config/user-dirs.dirs17:01
didrockshum, that would be weird to not make everything in alphabetical order in the list, like, you need to know it's a xdg dir or not?17:01
seb128well anyway it's a detail but bonus point if the order was the same17:01
didrocksI would rather let it that way or put everything alphabetically17:01
seb128didrocks, I would do all xdg first in alphabetic order, then all bookmarks as you did17:01
didrockshum, I don't really know what is xdg or not at this point, but I can have a look17:02
didrocks(I take the bookmarks order that nautilus is giving me)17:02
seb128didrocks, don't bother, it was a small comment, maybe ask design for input on alphabetic or not17:02
seb128didrocks, the list is missing "desktop" btw, is that wanted?17:02
didrocksseb128: well, I think it's worth a try17:02
didrocksseb128: no, doesn't seem to be exposed by the bookmark API, weird17:02
seb128didrocks, seems to work great otherwise17:07
seb128i.e adding and removing bookmarks, doing that while copies are happening, stopping copies, etc17:07
didrocksseb128: nice! So, what I can do easily is order the whole bookmarks alphabetically17:07
didrocks(as I don't know if it's a xdg one or not)17:07
didrocksthen, we can refine later if we want to separate them17:07
seb128sounds good17:08
didrocksand looking at an easy way to add +desktop17:08
didrocksok, doing that, just a sec :)17:08
didrocksseb128: pushed the ordered alphabetically tweak (or bookmarks only, doesn't impact the copy, always after the bookmarks)17:22
didrocksadding a statc quicklist to both nautilus and nautilus-home.desktop now17:22
seb128didrocks, thanks17:22
seb128didrocks, speaking about nautilus-home I was pondering dropping it17:23
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didrocksseb128: so, making the nautilus icon using the home one?17:30
seb128didrocks, we dropped the home icon, or rather sladen did17:31
seb128bug #87426517:31
ubot2Launchpad bug 874265 in ayatana-design "Launcher - remove the embossed 'home' image from the Nautilus Launcher icon " [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87426517:31
seb128"Note from User Testing:17:31
seb128In user testing, participants use 'home' (Nautilus Launcher) to find or17:31
seb128access everything in their computer.  Many thought that the Dash was the17:31
seb128equivalent of the start button in Windows whereas 'home' was their17:31
seb128computer."17:31
seb128 17:31
didrocksseb128: oh? I still have it though, should have a local copy for when I tried to add it17:31
seb128didrocks, it was confusing users ;-)17:31
didrockshum, it was a design request :-)17:32
seb128yeah, well user testing showed it was not so good ;-)17:32
didrocksbut ok, we can handle that, we have to transition on upgrade then!17:32
didrocksmaybe we should:17:32
didrocks- handle the transition in unity17:32
didrocks- then drop the icon17:32
didrockswdyt?17:32
didrocks(you mean that all the work I just did supporting multiple icons is vanished? :p)17:33
seb128didrocks, yeah, and maybe add a first "check with design that they are fine with the upstream naming and icon"17:35
didrocksyep17:35
didrockscan you add it somewhere, like on the pad?17:35
seb128didrocks, done, added to the pad17:36
didrocksseb128: excellent, thanks :) testing the static quicklist there17:37
BigWhaleCan someone explain why last two code blocks here fail: http://pastebin.com/gBks96nb17:42
BigWhale?17:42
didrocksbah thunderbird17:57
didrocksit unchecked for all my folder "check new emails in that folder"17:57
seb128didrocks, go to about:config and define "mail.server.server1.check_all_folders_for_new" to true17:59
seb128didrocks, well assuming that server1 is the one you have all those folders on18:00
seb128didrocks, chrisccoulson showed me that during the rally, seems to work great ;-)18:00
didrocksseb128: stupid question but where do you put about:config? :)18:00
seb128didrocks, edition, preferences, avancé, editeur de configuration18:01
seb128(the button at the bottom of the tab)18:01
didrocksseb128: ah excellent! Thanks a bunch!18:01
seb128didrocks, yw18:01
didrocks(should definitively be the default…)18:01
didrocksok, enough for today! See you tomorrow guys :)18:07
seb128re18:21
bschaeferseb128, hey, are you still up?19:17
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