=== HypnoBox is now known as TheHypnotist[loc [07:25] Morning all [08:01] morning [08:02] morning [08:02] <3 netcat [08:04] The topic still says Happy 12th January... [08:04] was struggling to backup some large amounts of data from my old amiga. seems my nfs client no longer works with linux, and samba was slow as hell. tar | to netcat and im getting a blistering 400Kb/second ;-) [08:04] (blistering for the amiga) [08:05] Yeah, SMB has a lot of overhead for individual files, I think [08:06] Making a no-compression zip file on the server is a time honoured Windows trick [08:12] Morning all [08:16] Morning all. Happy Monday :-D [08:17] /me grunts semi-coherently and gathers his blankets closer. [08:20] morning all [08:21] Morning all [08:22] It is a happy Monday... I finally have my new phone \o/ [08:22] I need hot sweet coffee with gingerbead syrup [08:22] Alas, I left the syrup at home. And the train has no hot water. Or coffee. Or hot. [08:23] New phone model? [08:24] Hippychick: What phone you got? [08:29] Its the galaxy nexus [08:30] Morning [08:31] Ah...Steaming hot, black coffee [08:39] <_serial_> loves coffee, shame starbucks dont do it hot enough [08:40] Trying to give up coffee (or at least reduce my consumption drastically) [08:40] I don't know why, I never like Starbucks or Costa (other coffee house providers are available) coffee, there's just something that doesn't appeal to me [08:42] DJones: There's a place in Reading called the Workhouse Coffee Shop, best coffee I've ever tasted, and HUGE sausage rolls :) [08:43] daubers: Handy if you're in Reading, bit far for them to deliver though [08:43] I like this coffee http://www.taylorscoffee.co.uk/products/lifestyle-coffee/hot-lava-java.asp [08:46] DJones: I have a bag of that I will be opening shortly [08:46] It has that nice early morning kick :) [08:49] GOOD MORNING PRETTIES [08:49] TheOpenSourcerer: hey, how was dr phil? :) [08:50] christel: Its too cold and too early for that sort of greeting :) [08:50] uh oh.. DJones, i think AlanBell is gearing up for an entirely different kind of morning kick :o === AlanBell changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting 12th January 21:00 UK time #ubuntu-uk-meeting | "GOOD MORNING PRETTIES" ~ christel [08:50] oh phew! [08:50] haha [08:50] DJones: it is indeed rather cold today [08:50] I was wondering what to replace "Happy 12th of January \o/" with [08:51] christel: Must admit, that was my thought as well [08:51] as for coffee, i am with you -- i'm not keen on costa or starbucks coffees, tho i am partial to a frappucino/frescato when it's summery and warm! === AlanBell changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting 2nd February 21:00 UK time #ubuntu-uk-meeting | "GOOD MORNING PRETTIES" ~ christel [08:53] christel: Very funny. Enjoyed the evening. [08:53] :D [08:53] he is very funny on HIGNFY, and in private eye for that matter [08:53] christel: Are those coffee's milky? I only drink black coffee [08:53] Morning all. [08:54] DJones: they're more milkshake than coffee [08:54] (i tend to opt for the chocolate or vanilla ones) [08:54] morning folks [08:54] coffee proper i take black and unsweetened [08:54] The best way :) [08:54] indeed! [08:54] christel: Have you seen these on sale? http://www.sweetretailing.co.uk/index.php/new_sweets_chocolates/view/cadbury_creme_egg_splats [08:55] oooh [08:55] i have not! [08:55] Higher chocolate to filling ratio though [08:55] *nod* [08:56] i am now debating if i can make cadubury creme egg stuff my carb treat [08:57] (i have been attempting to avoid carbs) [09:00] they keep trying to find me mind [09:09] christel: Hide in the fridge, they'll never think of looking in there! [09:09] aloha [09:09] o/ [09:09] hahaha [09:09] <3 daubers [09:09] heey czajkowski! [09:09] love caramel egg [09:10] yummy stuff very goesy and sticky mind [09:10] *goey [09:10] moin [09:11] Myrtti! [09:11] gosh, two of my favourite girls at once, this is shaping up to be a good morning! [09:11] oh dear, that sounded a bit creepy [09:12] christel: no it sounded a lot creepy :D [09:12] haha [09:12] christel: especially seeing as the last comments from them were gooey and sticky [09:12] hullu matthew [09:12] MooDoo: lol [09:13] I was going to say something... but never mind... ;-) [09:13] MooDoo: christel hello girls! [09:13] bah [09:13] Myrtti: christel hello girls [09:13] czajkowski: and a good morning to you to mr ;) [09:14] MooDoo: hey there [09:19] anyone need a car service http://www.groupon.co.uk/deals/north-london/pit-start-garage/2706758 [09:46] Morning all! :) [09:47] Good Morning! === andatche_ is now known as andatche === Myrtti_ is now known as Guest79446 [10:08] I run pear upgrade and then this split happens. Coincidence? === cypher is now known as czajkowski === Guest79446 is now known as Myrtti === cypher is now known as czajkowski [10:25] such an ordeal never restarting irssi again if I can help it, or until I sort my config file out [10:25] what a mess [10:26] ouch [10:26] come to the dark and evil side of just using xchat because you can't be bothered with irssi anymore ;) [10:27] gord: doesn't help when you're ssh'd to a server :p [10:28] rarely do i find myself in a state where i have ssh access somewhere but no gui ;) [10:28] gord: when i'm at work, and want to IRC i need to ssh home :) [10:29] get a better job! [10:29] gord: no i love irssi + screen [10:29] would be lost without it [10:29] bah! everyone will see the light one day ;) [10:29] gord: job is fine, don't need xchat :p [10:29] try smuxi! [10:29] plus each channel has it's own number so I know where folks are and in most cases I dont say the wrong thing in them [10:30] quassel and quassel core seem interesting, but are a bit KDEish I think [10:30] smuxi has the same concept as that [10:31] and is gtk [10:31] so you run the core on a server and connect to it with a gui so have all the scrollback and channels [10:31] !info smuxi [10:31] smuxi (source: smuxi): graphical IRC client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-7build1 (oneiric), package size 5 kB, installed size 56 kB [10:31] i just use znc as my "core", it works with anything without being tied to any specific application [10:31] been using it for a year or two now, very very happy with it [10:31] ah, a heap of mono dependencies [10:32] even if i were using irssi, i'd use znc as the bouncer, so i get sensible scrollback and don't need to run inside of screen [10:43] “My primary phone is the iPhone,” Wozniak says. “I love the beauty of it. But I wish it did all the things my Android does, I really do.” [10:43] sounds like a sensible man === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [10:55] I'm looking for something like winsplit revolution for a 10.04 running in virtual machine. Is there anything like it for Ubuntu (or Linux in general)? [10:56] brucebanner, its generally not a great idea to ask for a replacement for windows program in a linux based irc channel, chances are we have no idea what that program does ;) what do you actually want to do? [10:56] dogmatic69: upgraded PHP to 5.3 and my CakePHP 1.1 projects continue to work. Something must have changed in PHP 5.3 since I last tried [10:57] Howdy ho [10:59] brucebanner: there is a compiz-fusion plugin called grid. [11:00] I can't use compiz --- the VM doesn't have 3d graphics [11:00] brucebanner: oooo have a look at this - http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/11360/my-attempt-to-bring-winsplit-revolution-to-linux/ [11:00] brucebanner: is it mainly terminal windows you are gridding ? [11:00] brucebanner: or this http://soad1982.blogspot.com/2010/05/winsplit-revolution-like-on-any-window.html [11:00] oimon: terminator for that :D [11:00] exactamondo [11:02] morning all [11:02] davmor2: morning biatch....er mate [11:03] * jutnux bans MooDoo [11:03] MooDoo: Yeah there is a post on OMG!Ubuntu about some app you maybe interest in for your photography muppet boy ;) [11:03] jutnux: nah still here, ner ner ner ner ner [11:04] davmor2: yeah read it, think i'll stick to windows :p [11:04] so it's a tiling window manager for windows? [11:05] MooDoo: and have you noticed that popey is starring in the latest comparethesupermarket as epic Brian? [11:09] davmor2: no i've not lol [11:14] bigcalm: I thought you wanted to upgrade to cake 2.0 [11:14] MooDoo: http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/videos/save-a-1000-pounds-with-moneysupermarket/0012874/ [11:14] i still don't think that looks like popey [11:15] gord: it does honest AlanBell even said so and he'd know the amount they hang out [11:15] there is some resemblance, but I've seen gazillion and one better doppelgängers in different FLOSS events [11:16] dogmatic69: the drive to upgrade was that 1.1 wouldn't work in 5.3 (last time I tried it). But it worked over the weekend for some reason [11:16] and now I forgot what I was supposed to do [11:16] bigcalm: ah ok [11:16] hope it was fly to the uk and make me a cup of tea and bring biscuits, because i'm completely out [11:17] davmor2: week Thursday still happening and do we have numbers? [11:17] Myrtti: That was just popey, he's *everywhere* [11:17] daubers: he wasn't in Finland or Silicon Valley [11:18] gord: you down on the 26th? [11:19] should be [11:19] bigcalm: that's four and I'm going to send out emails today or tomorrow [11:20] Good show [11:20] won't the teeny tiny room get a bit crowded with more than 4? ;) [11:20] gord: we can hog the cafe if it gets too many :) [11:20] More bodies will make it less chilly [11:21] * bigcalm ponders advancing the heating [11:21] Alternative is to turn on another computer in here [11:24] i just make -j8 all day long, keeps my toes nice and toasty [11:24] Heh [11:24] My combo of very small office + i7 + 2 monitors seems to help [11:26] gord: if you are using your laptop I'm amazed it doesn't burn it's way through your desk ;) [11:27] davmor2: i see the resemblance [11:27] in that money advert [11:52] I love reading other peoples code [11:52] "Not sure why, but do this" [11:54] ewww [11:55] has anyone heard of yammer website? [11:57] oimon: social networking site? [11:58] seems to be. some eejit is recommending using it at work [11:58] isnt' that the one where you install it on your intranet? [11:59] oimon: sound like a black country social media system :D [11:59] if a project manager is recommending it, i'm sure they've paid someone for it, and what they wanted all along was a wiki [12:37] good afternoon everyone. [12:37] howdy brobostigon [12:37] howdy MooDoo [12:48] Hi brobostigon [12:50] hi matti [12:51] davmor2: smart a**e [12:51] MooDoo: :D cheered me up [12:52] davmor2: good :) i'm all about cheering people up [13:01] oh dear [13:02] i do appreciate being able to order food online and have it delivered to my house.. however, i think i have managed to make an error which i never would manage to do in store [13:02] i remember typing a "2" to change the quantity of spelt flour from 1 to 2 [13:03] the ocado man just brought me TWENTY kilos of flour [13:03] I love the ocado man [13:03] we're due our delivery tomorrow [13:04] But how much do you love 20kgs of spelt flour? [13:11] christel: sounds like CUPCAKE TIME! [13:11] ohhh [13:11] cupcakecupcakecupcakecupcake [13:11] http://www.groupon.co.uk/deals/north-london/sugarshack/2694990 [13:12] would be tempted to go if it was closer [13:12] CUPCAKE.... *drool* [13:17] Myrtti: how's things with you? where are you these days ? [13:20] things are as ok as they can be, the usual etc. Am in Finland again [13:20] nods [13:25] Myrtti: indeed! sounds like A LOT of cupcake time [13:26] 20kg of cupcake would be like... a house [13:43] * MooDoo punches davmor2 why have we not abused czajkowski lately? [13:44] MooDoo: she is still a bit broken occasional prods is about it [13:45] davmor2: pah no excuse [13:45] Howdy again. [13:45] * MooDoo prods czajkowski [gently] [13:45] MooDoo: I'm letting her fully recover so she can handle the onslaught of niggling [13:49] davmor2: looser, but ok thebn [13:54] i love getting texts, i've got sheldon cooper saying "bazinga" as the notification tone lol [14:01] i used to have the it crowd "Message for me!" thing [14:10] lol [14:12] * brobostigon wants MooDoo's ringtone, please :) [14:13] brobostigon: it's in the android market place, just search for big bang theory and it's a sound board [14:13] MooDoo: thank you, :) [14:20] yw! [14:25] eeek, 8MB in total size, wow. [14:27] is it? blimey [14:27] quite, yes. [14:29] 200kb of application, 7.8mb of ads [14:37] eeeek [14:49] a sound board? using space for audio samples? WHODATHUNKIT? [14:59] hello [15:02] hello [15:03] i take it everyone is bussy at work [15:10] tim_: guess so [15:11] whats the point of having a where are we map with the locations? [15:11] no point. just interesting and nice to know where other ubuntu users are in the country [15:12] oright well im on the map :) [15:12] Hello Tim [15:12] well hello chris [15:12] How are you today? [15:12] im right next to you =,= [15:13] Yea I know XD [15:13] then wth! [15:13] *shruggs* [15:14] ah college users having a jest :D [15:14] Indeed [15:14] pretty bored [15:15] 3 hours of Networking :D [15:15] yay lol [15:15] Windows networking :s [15:16] the worst type :/ [15:17] Indeed [15:17] there is no place like 127.0.0.1 [15:18] Indeed, fun :D [15:18] lol [15:19] MooDoo: you know if i can order a 12.04 disc in advance? [15:24] tim_: a release one? then probably not, however you can get a daily release iso here - [15:24] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [15:26] You can't get discs direct from Ubuntu anymore, you have to contact your loco... In this case, probably alanbell is the best to speak to [15:26] !shipit [15:26] Canonical is no longer sending free Ubuntu CDs to individuals through its ShipIt program. For more information please see http://blog.canonical.com/?p=551 !LoCo teams can request CDs through this link https://forms.canonical.com/lococd/ [15:26] Although I think the loco disks are generally kept for events rather than giving out individually (I could be wrong on that though) [15:27] well i just emailed the guy [15:28] Looks like he timed out of the channel about 20 minutes ago, otherwise he'd probably let you know straight off [15:28] to bad you carnt buy single ubuntu disc from canonical every LTS release [15:28] DJones: Nope, They're for all and sundry [15:29] daubers: Right, I couldn't remember off the top of my head, I just remember a bit of discussion about postage costs etc [15:31] yeah, I think the system is you send him an SAE he sends it back with a CD [15:32] http://ubuntu-uk.org/free-cds/ :) [15:33] That makes sense [15:38] all assignments uploaded and nothing to do [15:39] * daubers carries on figuring out OpenGL to get some awesome visualisations running [15:39] by the way anyone play urban terror? [15:40] heh does anyone still play that? [15:40] like at all [15:40] yeah [15:40] neat [15:41] a version HD is coming out [15:41] itll put my graphics card to good use [15:45] my current urban terror client keeps going on to some kind of command line :/ [15:57] Ares The-HopeBuster [15:57] 22:52 [15:57] irc.indonesianbacktrack.or.id [15:57] Spam? [15:57] #Ares The-HopeBuster [15:57] 22:52 [15:57] irc.indonesianbacktrack.or.id [15:58] Yes, spam [15:58] riv182: please don't spam here [15:58] and back for at least a bit [15:59] soryy [15:59] okee === georgios is now known as GiorgioShooter [16:22] eh no alanbell [16:22] wtf [16:24] Yes, it's odd to be with out Mr Bell [16:24] very [16:24] send out a search party do not come back without him [16:24] * czajkowski peers at christel have you locked mr alanbell away in a pub ? [16:25] Check under the sofa [16:33] taken hostage by chickens [16:36] he hasn't pubbed with me for ages :( [16:41] i sent him to reeducation camp [16:41] for his unacceptable views on mono [16:50] reduction camp? [16:52] unity dash is no longer possible to set to full-screen? [16:53] yes it is [16:54] oimon: top left click on the fullscreen button like you would for an app [16:55] ah yeah, it got moved - cheers guys [16:55] wow and it remembers now too [16:55] czajkowski: prod [16:56] not that i ever look at the dash [16:56] i heard you can disable "apps for download" too [16:56] * czajkowski hugs davmor2 [16:56] oimon: only if you are on unity 5.0 [16:56] i think i am [16:57] are you on precice? [16:57] oimon: are you on oneiric? [16:57] precise alpha [16:57] then you are if you updated since friday [16:57] yup [17:03] * daubers can't update unity for some reason on his precise box [17:04] Says there's unfulfilled dependancies [17:04] i just did an dist-upgrade after installing alpha1 [17:05] I've been trying to avoid taht and just use update manager [17:05] ah i heard people were having that bug... [17:05] there's probably a fix on the forums or launchpad [17:05] does update manager still ask if you want to replace config files? [17:08] daubers: I'd recommend you dist-upgrade [17:08] * czajkowski tickles popey [17:08] * popey jumps [17:09] :) [17:09] powercuts are bad, someone should make a law against them [17:10] * AlanBell is using smuxi now [17:10] AlanBell: welcome back we were worried about you [17:10] aww [17:10] * AlanBell starts typing in 80 /join commands [17:10] AlanBell: do /channel commands [17:10] AlanBell: those get saved on /save [17:11] * czajkowski has to write a bio about herself for FOSDEM [17:11] czajkowski: "Irish." [17:11] only female taking part in the panel about distros ambassadors [17:11] MartijnVdS: I've to put that bit in to stop people talking to me in polish! [17:11] "I iz teh awesome!" [17:11] that should do for anyone as a bio [17:12] so, smuxi users, how does one connect to it from Android? [17:13] and why doesn't multiple tab presses cycle through nicks? grr [17:14] * popey wonders why AlanBell is using smuxi [17:14] see irrsi+screen+ssh ftw! [17:14] to get some mono awesomeness [17:14] popey: we were talking about it this morning, I kind of like the client/server architecture as a concept so thought I would give it a go next time I had a powercut [17:14] #smuxi @ oftc for all your chatting-with-upstream needs [17:16] bah, anyone else having akismet problems with wordpress today? [17:16] my blog can't connect to akismet so I now have thousands of spam comments [17:20] working fine here [17:23] popey: Will do so from home [17:26] mm... might need to take an SSD into a customer, trying to get an overviuew of whats munching their NAS to shred and my little inotify client can't write to disk fast enough [17:26] stupid iops limits [17:29] Stupid fast NASes [18:03] Colour me surprised: http://www.maplin.co.uk/leisure/electronic-kits/arduino-kits [18:03] Happy though [18:04] yup [18:04] cool [18:04] getting in just in time for Arduinos to die out and faster, better things to come along [18:05] ;-) [18:05] Speed isn't everything. They are tools for learning with [18:06] bigcalm: yeah, but when you can get a 24MHz ARM7 for less than half the price of an ATMega 328, it starts to look almost nonsensical... [18:08] anyone used a bulldozer cpu? [18:08] Arduinos are more expensive than Raspberry Pi will be 8-) [18:08] YaManicKill: That's the AMD one right? [18:08] MartijnVdS: yeah [18:09] Haven't used it... haven't used AMD in a loooong time [18:09] fairynuff [18:09] am just about to upgrade my phenom x4 2.6 to a bulldozer x6 3.3 [18:09] and am gonna get this motherboard - http://amzn.to/AntaON [18:09] just looking for if anyone has any real hand experience with either before i do so [18:12] Asus tends to be good [18:12] <- saving money for an i7 [18:13] yeah, i've been pretty happy with my phenom, and although the i7s have better single core performance, in Linux especially the bulldozer has better multi-core performance [18:13] I like the built-in GPU bits [18:13] which, tbh, is only going to get better, as more applications become more and more multi-core optimised [18:13] MartijnVdS: in the i7? [18:14] yes [18:14] new i7s come with GPUs [18:14] well if you choose the right ones [18:14] fairynuff, i have 2 external graphics cards, so don't really care about that tbh [18:14] I don't need graphics performance. Intel has libva support for decoding MPEG2 and H264, so that helps for HD video [18:14] but yeah, that's useful for laptops and stuff. the new amd APUs look like they are going to be nice as well when they eventually get released [18:14] 3D is adequate [18:15] ok, my main reason for external graphics cards...i have 4 monitors :-) [18:15] I have one. More than enough :) [18:15] i like more than 1 as it helps me compare code/documents etc at the same time rather than switching between windowws [18:16] I tried 2 once [18:16] but I got distracted all the time, or put most stuff on one screen [18:16] so then I switched back [18:17] fairynuff [18:17] this is why choice is good :-) [18:17] i work well with more than 1 screen (except when studying for exams...) whereas you don't [18:20] Kettle time! [18:37] precise time I think [18:38] AlanBell: I'm already on precise [18:38] on all my machines :) [18:39] I have a precise desktop, and a few servers and VMs this is the upgrade for my main laptop [18:39] I use workspaces more than multiple monitors [18:40] KrimZon: same for me [18:40] one for banshee, one for tbird, one for "the rest" (lots of terminals and vim windows + web browser) === Ng_ is now known as Ng [18:41] I made myself a perl script to handle creating workspaces with keyboard shortcuts and automatically deleting empty ones [18:45] using wmctrl or whatever it's called [18:46] I ought to post it once I find it - I used it on my laptop but not the eee that I'm on now [18:46] KrimZon: a bit like gnome shell does? [18:47] yeah [18:48] it was the main feature of gnome 3 that I was excited about [18:48] but I wasn't pleased that it wasn't so modular any more [19:30] hey everyone [19:30] good morrrrrning [19:30] o/ Knightwise [19:30] hey Alan ! :) [19:30] how are you today [19:31] things are good with me :) [19:31] * AlanBell sets up a happy hour for Thursday [19:32] cool :) [19:32] tonytiger: are you around on Thursday evening in the Southampton area? [19:32] and/or anyone else [19:32] anyone of you guyz going to fossdem ? [19:32] \o [19:32] Knightwise: Jij woont ernaast! ;) [19:32] Lol indeed MartijnVdS i'm probably going on sat or sunday [19:33] Sunday probably [19:33] cool . perhaps we'll catch eachother over there :) would be great to meet you in person for once :) [19:33] * MartijnVdS buys a fake moustache [19:34] MartijnVdS: your bodily odour will betray you [19:35] Hey! I shower every few weeks! [19:35] More in the rain season. [19:36]