[02:25] <scott-upstairs> falktx, when you helped me the other day with -default-settings package, did you push anythign to bzr?
[02:26] <falktx> scott-upstairs: nope
[02:26] <scott-upstairs> can you tell me what change you made so i can add that after i fix my stupid merge mistake?
[02:27] <falktx> haha
[02:27] <falktx> scott-upstairs: debian/*.install
[02:27] <falktx> remove debian/tmp/ from them
[02:27] <falktx> so they become only
[02:27] <falktx> etc/
[02:27] <scott-upstairs> and i mean to tell you that it was a stupid mistake too
[02:27] <falktx> usr/
[02:27] <scott-upstairs> oh, that's easy
[02:27] <falktx> scott-upstairs: I think debian/control has an error in there too, not sure
[02:28] <scott-upstairs> yeah, both changelog and control had issues
[02:29] <scott-upstairs> mainly i would say it is my incomplete understanding of packaging, code, and bzr that is the root of it
[02:30] <scott-upstairs> falktx, do you remember specifically what the problem was in debian/control?
[02:30] <falktx> scott-upstairs: maintainer field, ":" character
[02:31] <scott-upstairs> falktx, also, can you tell me how i can get the source code for the 3.2.0-8.15 kernel instead of the 3.2.0-8.8 one from https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/lowlatency/+packages
[02:31] <scott-upstairs> falktx, thanks on mainteiner field
[02:32] <scott-upstairs> falktx, i added abogani's ppa and i've tried getting source but it's always the 3.2.0.8.8 code
[02:33] <falktx> well, that's his source
[02:33] <scott-upstairs> but aren't they two different versions?  8.15 vs 8.8?
[02:35] <falktx> yeah
[02:35] <falktx> got the last one
[02:35] <falktx> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/linux_3.2.0.orig.tar.gz
[02:35] <falktx> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/linux_3.2.0-9.16.diff.gz
[02:35] <falktx> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/linux_3.2.0-9.16.dsc
[02:35] <falktx> 3.2.0-9.16
[02:36] <scott-upstairs> falktx, i just need to get alessio's latest version from his ppa so i can upload it to REVU to get it into the archives
[02:37] <scott-upstairs> every time i try to get the source it says it's getting the linux-meta-lowlatency one which is the wrong version
[02:37] <scott-upstairs> do i just need to wait until alessio is online to clear it up?
[02:40] <falktx> ah, you need to specify the correct package
[02:40] <falktx> apt-get source linux-image-3.2.0-8-lowlatency
[02:40] <falktx> scott-upstairs: ^is that what you need?
[02:45] <ScottL> falktx, i will try, super thanks, man!
[02:45] <ScottL> oh, falktx , hold on a minute
[02:46] <falktx> one minute counting
[02:46] <scott-upstairs> falktx, can you help with a ubiquity patch?  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-ubuntustudio-livedvd
[02:46] <scott-upstairs> we want to use this (ala edubuntu) to replace tasksel during install when we move to live dvd
[02:47] <scott-upstairs> no one really understands it at this point except stephane (with edubuntu), as far as i know
[02:47] <falktx> that can take a whilte
[02:47] <falktx> scott-upstairs: can you ping me up tomorrow? I'm in a rush to get some things done
[02:48] <scott-upstairs> falktx, not a big rush at this point, i will not be ready for a week at the soonest
[02:49] <scott-upstairs> falktx, and thanks for all you have already done :)  it's been a huge help
[02:50] <falktx> beh, it was literally nothing
[02:50] <scott-upstairs> i don't mean just in the past few days, you've helped quite a bit
[02:50] <scott-upstairs> and i just built -default-settings locally and will push the fix now
[02:52] <falktx> :)
[08:01] <abogani> scott-upstairs, ScottL: I have just updated -lowlatency and realtime kernels to 9.16
[13:26] <scott-work> thansk abogani :)
[13:26] <scott-work> i tried to upload the previous version to REVU but couldn't and REVU seems to be down currently, not sure about that though
[13:27] <scott-work> hopefully tonight i get the seeds modified for the theme-ui changes and the multi-head support as well, although i need to review my notes to make sure i'm not missing anything
[13:35] <astraljava> scott-work: I thought about starting to work on live-dvd. Wasn't it Colin who you talked with?
[13:35] <scott-work> aye, astraljava 
[13:35] <scott-work> we still need to clarify which seeds are going to (created and) used though
[13:36] <astraljava> scott-work: But can't we start with one work flow first, and then add more later on?
[13:36] <scott-work> astraljava: colin said it would be about a day's work to get it done and my impression is that it would be a bit of back and forth with him to make it so
[13:37] <scott-work> astraljava: you are right
[13:37] <scott-work> i was hoping to get a bare minimum of stuff going first, but you are correct that it really is most likely unecessary
[13:37] <astraljava> scott-work: Ok. I'll ping him then to see when we could do that.
[13:38] <scott-work> astraljava:  previously he had mentioned that we need to get seed "blocks" to him, basically a flow chart of what we expect to use
[13:38] <astraljava> scott-work: Ok. Well let's see what comes out of the initial discussion.
[13:39] <scott-work> sounds good :)
[13:40] <scott-work> oh, colin also said he would be unavailable for a few weeks directly after january, so i am very glad that you are progressing this now :)
[13:41] <astraljava> I noticed that, and it is why I took it under construction first.
[14:53] <astraljava> scott-work: < cjwatson > astraljava: do you have a clear specification of how you want the resulting image to behave in terms of what  should be available in a live session and what should be available after installation?
[14:53] <astraljava> scott-work: How should I answer to this question?
[14:53] <holstein> falktx is in the house!
[14:53] <astraljava> Not in mine he isn't!
[14:53] <holstein> lol
[14:54] <holstein> astraljava: i think its going to fit on a DVD anyways, how about just installing most everything?
[14:54] <holstein> as far as default applications
[14:54] <holstein> i dont think theres a way to please everyone here
[14:54] <holstein> astraljava: OH... wasnt there a taskselect kind of thing in the GUI?
[14:54] <astraljava> holstein: I'm thinking the same, we should try to make the live session look as exactly the same as the installed product as possible, right?
[14:54] <holstein> from edubuntu?
[14:55] <astraljava> Yeah.
[14:55] <holstein> astraljava: i would like it to look and feel the same
[14:55] <holstein> astraljava: with the lowlatency kernel and all
[14:55] <astraljava> Yep. But should we somehow indicate which apps come with which work flow selecion?
[14:55] <holstein> astraljava: that would be nice
[14:55] <holstein> but its never been like that
[14:56] <holstein> i say, thats a great goal, but dont hold up anything for it
[14:56] <holstein> its always been a curses thing with no notes
[14:57] <astraljava> Right, maybe we just have a list of apps coming from work flow selection on the website somewherE?
[14:57] <astraljava> s/E/e/
[14:57] <kubotu> astraljava meant: "Right, maybe we just have a list of apps coming from work flow selection on the website somewhere?"
[14:59] <holstein> astraljava: i like that... and i think that list exists, and can be edited as needed
[14:59] <holstein> rather than putting something giant in the UI
[15:00] <astraljava> Yeah, sounds more feasible.
[15:19] <scott-work> astraljava: i would suggest looking at how xubuntu does the livedvd thing, you can find code in xubuntu-default-settings in /casper
[15:19] <scott-work> i think it will have information that can help us understand the scope
[15:20] <astraljava> scott-work: Sure.
[15:20] <scott-work> and i'm not above demonstrating my ignornace and asking cjwatson to explain his questions more :P
[15:21] <scott-work> oops, that wasn't it
[15:21] <scott-work> maybe live-cd in seeds then, checking
[15:22] <scott-work> astraljava: ship-live seed:  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.precise/view/head:/ship-live
[15:22] <astraljava> He did elaborate, in fact, and said it would be good to have a list of apps which are to be included in the installed system, as some things are not needed that you have in live session (for example, the installer).
[15:22] <scott-work> doh!  astraljava and live:  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.precise/view/head:/live
[15:23] <astraljava> scott-work: Ok, I believe I can work it out from all of these example seeds.
[15:23] <scott-work> astraljava: outstanding, thank you very much :)
[15:24] <astraljava> scott-work: No need to thank me. :) Thank you for the information!