[00:43] <hspencer> SpamapS, when you mean sub directory, do you mean on the physical machine?
[00:43] <hspencer> where Walrus is running
[00:43] <hspencer> ?
[00:44] <hspencer> typically on the physical machine where Walrus is running, there is a directory under /var/lib/eucalyptus/bukkits
[00:45] <hspencer> under there, all the buckets are kept there, along with the information thats in each bucket..but its all encrypted
[00:45] <hspencer> encrypted
[07:40] <koolhead17> SpamapS: around>
[07:40] <koolhead17> ?
[07:40] <SpamapS> koolhead17: yeah, whats up?
[07:41] <koolhead17> SpamapS: can i get a AWS account for few days to show juju demo at conf ? I find Juju way to slow on/via LXC :(
[07:50] <SpamapS> koolhead17: we could probably give you one with limited capabilities for a few hours. Are you sure there's no way Amazon will let you setup your own account? All you need is a credit card of some kind.
[07:51] <koolhead17> SpamapS: yeah i dont have a credit card :(
[07:51] <SpamapS> koolhead17: its kind of an odd thing to demo something that you can't use.
[07:51] <koolhead17> SpamapS: cool i will strict to LXC then
[07:51] <koolhead17> leave it
[07:51] <koolhead17> :)
[07:51] <koolhead17> *restrict :D
[07:54] <SpamapS> koolhead17: perhaps see if somebody else can contribute a machine with lots of RAM for your demo. :)
[07:55] <koolhead17> yes. fortunately organizers have asked for hardware needed, i am asking for system with minimum 4 GB RAM  and Oneiric running :)
[07:57] <SpamapS> koolhead17: we could always just spin you up an m2.xlarge for 4 hours ($2) and let you run the LXC provider in that on a tmpfs partition. ;)
[07:58] <SpamapS> koolhead17: but then you'd get spoiled and want that kind of speed all the time.
[07:59] <koolhead17> SpamapS: actually i need AWS as i worked on it during ensemble with friends account for charm school session because i am not sure if all the participants gonna have all the required hw/sw installed on there box
[08:00] <koolhead17> it will take few hours for me to show how/what needed to do in AWS and then they are on there own :P
[08:02]  * koolhead17 is confused. or i should just mention what i need from the participants :P
[08:02] <SpamapS> koolhead17: we've talked about setting up a dedicated openstack cluster for charm schools.
[08:02] <koolhead17> SpamapS: how much time it will take
[08:02] <SpamapS> koolhead17: months
[08:02] <SpamapS> many months
[08:02] <koolhead17> SpamapS: :P ok
[08:03] <SpamapS> koolhead17: but we do plan on doing a bunch of charm schools all over the place this year.. and it would make things a lot simpler if we can just give people limited accounts.
[08:04] <koolhead17> SpamapS: what should i do then sir for feb11 event? :)
[08:05] <SpamapS> koolhead17: I would recommend 4GB of RAM for LXC, or that people have their own AWS accounts.
[08:06] <koolhead17> SpamapS: ok.
[08:06] <SpamapS> koolhead17: another option is to use orchestra and a bunch of old machines.
[08:07] <koolhead17> SpamapS: am reading up on orchestra and not very familiar with it. I will restrict to LXC/AWS
[08:08] <koolhead17> SpamapS: also how will juju behave when am running it behind proxy? am i supposed to pass some argument during bootstrap
[08:08] <SpamapS> koolhead17: orchestra is just a cobbler server + webdav to store the charms. You can just turn machines on and point them at the preseed file that cobbler generates, and then they will install and join the juju cluster.
[08:09] <SpamapS> koolhead17: its not exactly "simple".. but it is certainly the *cheapest* option if you have a bunch of old machines lying around.
[08:09] <koolhead17> SpamapS: i will add that option as well in requirement :D
[08:11] <koolhead17> (01:38:21  IST) koolhead17: SpamapS: also how will juju behave when am running it behind proxy? am i supposed to pass some argument during bootstrap
[08:15] <SpamapS> koolhead17: not sure.. haven't tried that
[08:16] <koolhead17> SpamapS: i think i will try it because am sure these events will have proxy with them
[08:17] <koolhead17> and i failed to get juju working on my openstack proxy env
[08:18] <SpamapS> koolhead17: you seem to always be dealing with very complicated setups. :/
[08:19] <koolhead17> SpamapS: well unfortunately yes
[08:19] <koolhead17> :(
[11:41] <mpl> bleh, just figured why zookeeper service wouldn't start on this lucid lynx. apparently it's because of --chuid zookeeper:zookeeper, beats me.
[11:41] <mpl> just removed that for now as just need a running zookeeper to dev against.
[12:41] <niemeyer> Goood morning all!
[12:47] <andrewsmedina> niemeyer: morning
[12:47] <andrewsmedina> It's possible create more than one wordpress service with juju?
[12:47] <niemeyer> andrewsmedina: Morning :)
[12:48] <niemeyer> andrewsmedina: Yeah, you can create as many services as you want (and you have machines for)
[12:49] <mpl> hello Gustavo
[12:49] <andrewsmedina> niemeyer: thanks
[12:49] <andrewsmedina> niemeyer: I was trying without set the service name
[12:51] <andrewsmedina> niemeyer: would be nice if the juju generate a random name is the name of the service already exists
[12:54] <niemeyer> andrewsmedina: Interesting.. I imagined people would prefer to choose sensible names
[12:55] <andrewsmedina> niemeyer: hm..
[13:21] <mpl> niemeyer: ok, it's a bit of a mess, but I managed to send a zk.Create() command over ssh I think, so hurray :)
[13:22] <niemeyer> mpl: Woah, sweet! :-)
[13:29] <mpl> niemeyer: the sad thing is I actually was almost there last time I tried. I've basically only changed a tidbit now.
[13:51] <nijaba> when you need a review of a modification in an existing charm, is there a tag to set so that charmers can see all the pending reviews in the queue?
[13:57] <lynxman> gah I forgot, what was the parameter again in enviroments.yaml to tag your EC2 machines to your specific juju install? (so they're easy to clean up afterwards)
[14:36] <lynxman> hazmat: ping
[14:44] <koolhead17> smoser: around?
[14:45] <koolhead17> hey nijaba
[14:47] <nijaba> hello koolhead17
[14:47] <koolhead17> nijaba: i tried playing with phpbb3 and exim4 is required pkg
[14:47] <koolhead17> :(
[14:48] <nijaba> koolhead17: then do not use the package
[14:48] <nijaba> (which seems pretty poor quality)
[14:49] <koolhead17> nijaba: okey.
[14:49] <smoser> koolhead17, here.
[14:50] <nijaba> koolhead17: I would also file a bug against the package
[14:50] <koolhead17> nijaba: cool. let me confirm it again and file a bug!! :P
[14:51] <nijaba> koolhead17: it should at least not require exim, just some smtp provider
[14:51] <hazmat> lynxman, pong
[14:52] <lynxman> hazmat: nevermind, found my anwer in the server channel :)
[14:52] <lynxman> hazmat: I'll ping SpamapS later, looks like the distro packages for both oneiric and precise are not working (I reckon its txaws)
[14:53] <lynxman> hazmat: just for your curiosity http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/807434/
[14:55] <smoser> koolhead17, did you need something?
[14:55] <lynxman> smoser: morning o/
[14:55] <smoser> good morning, mr lynxman
[14:55] <koolhead17> nijaba: yes help to get the juju part working inside proxy setup of my openstack infra
[14:55] <koolhead17> :D
[14:58] <koolhead17> oops i meant smoser :)
[14:58] <koolhead17> ^^
[14:58] <koolhead17> nijaba: am wrong http://paste.ubuntu.com/807460/  phpbb3 recommends exit4 not depands
[15:02] <koolhead17> nijaba: seems like i found bug for phpbb3 now, http://paste.ubuntu.com/807466/
[15:02] <koolhead17> see the following packages will be installed option, it installs exim4
[15:02] <koolhead17> :(
[15:36] <secbrid> chaps, quick question I've created some servers with juju, but how do i now ssh onto them, using what username and password/key ?
[15:46] <koolhead17> secbrid: so you have some units running
[15:46] <koolhead17> juju -v status
[15:47] <secbrid> koolhead17, yeah, and i'm trying to ssh root@<server>.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com
[15:47] <secbrid> i'm getting Permission denied (publickey).
[15:47] <koolhead17> secbrid: is  juju -v status giving u something?
[15:49] <secbrid> koolhead17, yeah, it looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/807525/
[15:50] <secbrid> koolhead17, i would normally do juju debug-hooks relay/0 but i'd like to do it the ssh way if possible as well
[15:51] <koolhead17> secbrid: yeah thats wht i would do
[15:52] <secbrid> is the username root@<server> ? I'm just making sure it's not expecting another username instead, im using ssh -i as well to try use my key file, but thats give the same Permission denied (publickey). message
[15:54] <koolhead17> secbrid: i am not much aware about the AWS part, am using juju on LXC only. but to see more debugging option i would check my juju dir and then the log files inside the units directlry
[15:54] <koolhead17> *directory
[15:55] <secbrid> roger, thanks koolhead17
[15:55] <koolhead17> secbrid: welcome ^^
[16:03] <fwereade> secbrid, have you tried "juju ssh 0" (or whatever machine id you're interested in)?
[16:06] <nijaba> koolhead17: I read on phpbb "Recommends: <mail-transport-agent>" which means that it can be resolved to any mta, not just only exim
[16:06] <koolhead17> nijaba: yeah but http://paste.ubuntu.com/807466/
[16:07] <nijaba> koolhead17: so this is fine.  Just as msmtp-mta on your install command, and you'll see that that exim won't be pulled anymore
[16:07] <nijaba> koolhead17: not that recommends do get installed by default since 9.04 IIRC
[16:08] <nijaba> s/not/note
[16:08] <koolhead17> nijaba: ooh:-(
[16:11] <secbrid> fwereade, you legend!!! Thank you! that worked perfectly!
[16:20] <fwereade> secbrid, a pleasure :-)
[16:22] <fwereade> iirc, you should also be able to "ssh ubuntu@..." -- it should have picked up your key at bootstrap time -- so you can do that if for whatever reason juju ssh doesn't work
[16:23] <secbrid> ah excellent! i wasn't sure what username to use. very useful thanks
[16:31]  * koolhead17 notes fwereade just mentioned :)
[17:20] <lynxman> hazmat: ping
[17:35] <hazmat> lynxman, pong
[17:39] <lynxman> hazmat: I have an issue with txaws and bucket creation with EC2 secret having not alphanumeric characters
[17:39] <lynxman> hazmat: latest ppa package for oneiric, distribution package for precise and oneiric with same result
[17:40] <lynxman> hazmat: Error Message: The request signature we calculated does not match the signature you provided. Check your key and signing method.
[17:45] <hazmat> lynxman, is this against ec2 or openstack?
[17:47] <bcsaller> hazmat: any chance of feedback on https://codereview.appspot.com/5541054 today?
[17:47] <hazmat> bcsaller, sure
[17:47] <bcsaller> awesome
[17:51] <lynxman> hazmat: against ec2
[18:03] <hazmat> oh.. the ppa
[18:05] <lynxman> hazmat: yeah got latest package from the ppa for oneiric
[18:06] <lynxman> hazmat: also distro packages give the same result :/ (both oneiric and precise)
[18:06] <EvilBill> jcastro: ping
[18:07] <hazmat> lynxman, i just did a run through with the distro packages without issue (deps only), trying with the ppa
[18:07] <jcastro> EvilBill: hi
[18:07] <lynxman> hazmat: my EC2 auth has a '+'
[18:07] <lynxman> hazmat: as the only weird character there
[18:07] <EvilBill> jcastro: we should chat re: scale, and if you need my assistance with your charm school
[18:08] <jcastro> we should
[18:08] <jcastro> tomorrow fine?
[18:08] <jcastro> EvilBill: mchenetz tells me he's almost done with the mac bits
[18:08] <EvilBill> jcastro: cool.
[18:08] <EvilBill> that works
[18:08] <jcastro> EvilBill: right now the #1 thing I need is loud people getting people to show up. :)
[18:09] <EvilBill> I just wanna know where I need to be, when, and what I need to be prepped for.
[18:09] <EvilBill> cause right now all I'm bringing to scale is my laptop, ipad, iphone, and a bottle of rum
[18:09] <EvilBill> yaaarr.
[18:09] <jcastro> sounds perfect
[18:09] <jcastro> it's at 1:30 on the Friday
[18:09] <jcastro> but we can hang out and go to these devops talks all day
[18:09] <EvilBill> yeah, that sounds like a plan
[18:11] <EvilBill> Am really looking forward to that
[18:11] <EvilBill> going to be bringing the Kyle down with me
[18:11] <EvilBill> we'll be rolling in Thursday evening.
[18:21] <hazmat> lynxman, mine does as well re '+', just finished up using the ppa packages without error as well
[18:21] <hazmat> on oneiric
[18:21] <lynxman> hazmat: cool thanks
[18:21] <mpl> niemeyer: first example cleaned up a bit, e-mail sent. I'm going home now but I'll be available on irc again in a while if you want to talk. see you.
[18:22]  * hazmat tries again with a new s3 bucket
[18:25] <niemeyer> mpl: Superb, thanks a lot!
[18:26] <lynxman> hazmat: I'll try again then, any recommendations on how to get more debug?
[18:27] <m_3> lynxman: it might be worth it to try all over again from a fresh vm
[18:28] <lynxman> m_3: I think I'll do that...
[18:28] <lynxman> m_3: this has been killing me today :)
[18:28] <hazmat> lynxman, i'd verify your ec2 creds
[18:29] <m_3> yeah, it's just strange
[18:29] <lynxman> hazmat: they work on other apps :/
[18:30] <m_3> lynxman: juan's still successfully using them right?
[18:41] <lynxman> m_3: yeah :)
[19:08] <m_3> negronjl: thanks for the charm-tools fix man
[19:44] <jcastro> robbiew: ok, so remind me again why we sent some shirts to me, and some to Clint?
[19:44] <robbiew> Clint is for SCALE10x Charm School
[19:45] <jcastro> ok and then ones I just got for ... ?
[19:45] <robbiew> you have the rest and whatever we have left from SCALE for the remaining Charm Schools
[19:45] <jcastro> got it.
[19:45] <robbiew> and giveaways to folks at your discretion ;)
[19:59]  * m_3 jealous jorge doesn't have to do laundry for a month
[20:38] <SpamapS> hazmat: any luck on that twisted issue? I suppose we should open a bug
[20:39]  * SpamapS has a s***ton of shirts :)
[20:46] <arosales> SpamapS: Daviey was telling me of a bug that breaks juju on prcise.  Do we have a bug opened for the  incompatibility with juju and the version of twisted in precise?
[20:47] <SpamapS> arosales: ^^ just asked hazmat
[20:49] <arosales> SpamapS: ah ok, thanks.  Once we have one we should probably add it to Daviey's bug list (http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html)
[20:55] <hazmat> SpamapS, refresh .. which twisted ?
[20:55] <hazmat> SpamapS, ah that one, no.
[21:02] <negronjl> m_3: no worries