| gastal | benbloom: a good trick to clean the RAM slots if you don't have compressed air available is using a paint brush | 00:00 |
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| gastal | benbloom: does the machine make any noise when failing to boot? If a MOBO fails POST(a self test done when booting) it usually emit some beeps | 00:02 |
| benbloom | no beeps | 00:03 |
| BarkingFish | benbloom: are the two 1G sticks both 800mhz too? | 00:04 |
| kaddi | my laptop just seriously crashed and took the entire system down. What logs would I be able to (hopefully) find some info on what caused the crash? | 00:05 |
| kaddi | I wasn't at the machine at the time, so I don't know exactly what happened... Browser was opnened, so was the mail client and irc. When I got back X was gone and all I could see was a frozen CLI interface showing the last 10 lines of a crash-report | 00:06 |
| gastal | kaddi: what do you mean by "took the entire system down"? did you have to do a hard reset? | 00:07 |
| benbloom | BarkingFish, the two sticks are 667mhz | 00:07 |
| kaddi | yes | 00:07 |
| kaddi | gastal all that was left was the unresponsive screen with the CLI interface and the crash report | 00:08 |
| BarkingFish | That sounds like a kernel panic, kaddi. I don't know that there is going to be any sort of log that you can find of it, but maybe if you run ksystemlog you can check through the logs of other parts of the system and look for anything which may have caused the crash | 00:08 |
| kaddi | i couldn't enter anything and i couldn't switch to a different tty either | 00:08 |
| Psyrus | i'm through with kubuntu for one night i went back to windows | 00:09 |
| BarkingFish | benbloom: Don't run those alongside the 800mhz stick then, that's most likely what is causing your ram problem. | 00:09 |
| gastal | if it was a kernel panic logs are available only with debug kernels, which are not the default | 00:09 |
| kaddi | yeh, not running debug kernel | 00:09 |
| BarkingFish | Either use 800mhz or 667mhz, not both :) | 00:09 |
| DerezzedGoat | Hi, I am running the backports ppa for 11.10 that gets me kde4.8 beta. I just installed some mutilingual stuff... anyway, whenever I start a kde program my whole xsession gets knocked out | 00:09 |
| DerezzedGoat | I have an strace... | 00:09 |
| DerezzedGoat | does anybody want to see it? it ends up talkinga bout a resource temporarily unavailable... | 00:10 |
| BarkingFish | DerezzedGoat: sure, paste it up somewhere :) | 00:10 |
| gastal | DerezzedGoat: paste.kde.org | 00:10 |
| benbloom | ok BarkingFish. that's helpful. now. i'm still troubled about the twin 2G sticks that wouldn't work. they work fine together in my other PC | 00:10 |
| gastal | benbloom: tough it can be a pain I would seriously consider seeing if acer has released a update to the BIOS in your MOBO | 00:11 |
| benbloom | hmm. never occurred to me. how would i go about finding that out? | 00:12 |
| gastal | hmm, let me see if I can find out.... | 00:12 |
| kaddi | are there any known issues that cause kernel panics in kubuntu 11:10 then? eg intel graphic cards | 00:12 |
| BarkingFish | benbloom: do you have a piece number on the Cruical sticks please? I'd like to check out which ones you have :) | 00:12 |
| benbloom | BarkingFish, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0027P9C9G/ref=oh_o04_s00_i02_details | 00:13 |
| gastal | kaddi: intel graphics usually behave quite well, proprietary drivers are the most crash prone ones.... | 00:13 |
| BarkingFish | thanks | 00:13 |
| kaddi | well my last kernel panics (on the one starting with i and jaunty were due to the intel drivers.. that's why I'm asking) | 00:14 |
| gastal | benbloom: sorry, but acer lists no BIOS whatsover for your MOBO.... =/ | 00:15 |
| benbloom | haha | 00:15 |
| benbloom | I'm going to build my next PC from scratch | 00:16 |
| * gastal always builds his own PCs | 00:16 | |
| * benbloom will too from now on | 00:17 | |
| gastal | a bit off-topic but I might add that I'll bet benbloom's problems are the fault of some shitty BIOS programmer, never seen worst code in my life..... | 00:18 |
| DerezzedGoat | gastal, BarkingFish http://pastebin.com/qFVWNf6e | 00:19 |
| BarkingFish | guys, just a quick check here - may seem a bit thick, but are DIMM and SDRAM the same? | 00:19 |
| benbloom | not sure why anyone would build a 64b machine with 4 slots and make it 4G maxmem | 00:19 |
| BarkingFish | or am I being utterly stupid? | 00:19 |
| DerezzedGoat | BarkingFish, sometimes... I think ddr is too | 00:20 |
| DerezzedGoat | BarkingFish, back in the day there was such thing as simm | 00:20 |
| gastal | BarkingFish: they are not, but most people/sellers used them interchangebly | 00:20 |
| BarkingFish | gastal: this might be the issue then... | 00:20 |
| gastal | plus that's not the issue since DIMM is VERY old | 00:20 |
| DerezzedGoat | BarkingFish, and you had to install the items in pairs... dimms you could install one module and it would work | 00:20 |
| gastal | and by very old I mean pre DDR1 | 00:20 |
| BarkingFish | this is nuts then | 00:21 |
| BarkingFish | I'm looking at the product guide for what benbloom bought, and it states that they are 4GB Density, Type DDR2, Format DIMM | 00:22 |
| DerezzedGoat | gastal, Hey, I have an sdram computer.. but I don't have any edo computers anymore :( | 00:22 |
| * gastal is impressed at DerezzedGoat, even tough he has an acquaintance who has an Apple II | 00:22 | |
| BarkingFish | The board states it supports 4GB of DDR2 SDRAM. | 00:22 |
| DerezzedGoat | So, can anybody help with my KDE stuff crashing, This is a major dissapointed | 00:22 |
| DerezzedGoat | gastal, bah, I have an atari 800 | 00:23 |
| gastal | ok, I now need to find someone who has a Commodore 64.... | 00:23 |
| BarkingFish | No Commodores here, nasty things... :) I had a ZX Spectrum +2 and +3 :P | 00:24 |
| BarkingFish | Go Speccy! | 00:25 |
| gastal | DerezzedGoat: do you have a backtrace? from a quick scan of the strace I can only see temporary(EAGAIN) errors that shouldn't cause a crash.... | 00:25 |
| DerezzedGoat | gastal, I don't have debuggin symbols installed | 00:25 |
| DerezzedGoat | gastal, I suppose I can install that, or could you walk me thru? | 00:26 |
| DerezzedGoat | gastal, I mean, my whole system goes back to kdm | 00:26 |
| DerezzedGoat | gastal, whenever i run kopete... so the problem is pretty deep. | 00:26 |
| DerezzedGoat | It even crashes xfce which I am using now | 00:26 |
| gastal | DerezzedGoat: I have to admit I'm new to kubuntu, my default stance would be to ran TWM plus the faulty program to see what happens | 00:27 |
| gastal | DerezzedGoat: hmm, that's interesting, so it's probably crashing X itself | 00:27 |
| DerezzedGoat | I'm pretty sure twm will crash too.. Ah.. x logs... | 00:27 |
| gastal | yeah, I would check them | 00:27 |
| gastal | might give some clue | 00:27 |
| benbloom | so i'm thinking i'll just buy 2 more 1G 667mhz sticks since i cant have more than 4G anyway. they're pretty cheap | 00:28 |
| gastal | benbloom: if possible test before buying, maybe borrowing from a friend..... | 00:29 |
| benbloom | http://www.amazon.com/PC2-5300-667MHz-Desktop-Server-PowerVault/dp/B004WP2YY4 do those look good? | 00:29 |
| benbloom | hah! all my friends use mac | 00:30 |
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| gastal | like BarkingFish said memory can be fiddly but in theory mixing speeds is supposed to work(altough at the lower speed0 | 00:30 |
| DerezzedGoat | gastal, I don't see anything usefull... | 00:30 |
| gastal | no EE entries? | 00:30 |
| gastal | benbloom: don't buy ECC memory | 00:31 |
| gastal | it might, maybe, on ocasion work on desktops but it's meant for servers | 00:31 |
| benbloom | oh. I'm just trying to find something that will work with my elpida 667mhz 1G sticks that came with the aspire M3100 | 00:32 |
| * gastal 's personal preference is kingston or corsair | 00:34 | |
| benbloom | should I not worry about mfg as long as i have consistency between speed and correct size? | 00:36 |
| benbloom | how does this look gastal? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145098 | 00:39 |
| gastal | benbloom: I see no problem with that, =) | 00:40 |
| benbloom | cool. for <$30 it's worth a chance. | 00:41 |
| gastal | and to think I had to pay R$200(US$100) for pretty much the same about 3 months back..... taxes..... | 00:42 |
| benbloom | when it comes time for me to build my next PC, do you have any sites you recommend for HW suggestions (esp linux compatibility and future upgrade-ability)? | 00:43 |
| benbloom | ouch gastal. | 00:44 |
| gastal | benbloom: I'm not from the US so the sites I buy from wouldn't be any good to you | 00:45 |
| gastal | (as in they don't ship to the US) | 00:46 |
| benbloom | fair enough. i'm more looking for research and user experience info on hardware/software compatibility rather than where to buy | 00:47 |
| gastal | ah, then I might suggest anadtech.com and their forums, their reviews are top notch and trusthworthy | 00:49 |
| benbloom | cool. well thanks so much for all the help/advice. first time i've really gotten much help on #kubuntu (usually use #ubuntu) | 00:50 |
| Draggor | I have aterm installed, but when I go to maximize it, it doesn't fill the full window. Is there a setting I'm missing to make this happen? | 01:02 |
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| benbloom__ | can someone tell me how to remove the builtin flash plugin for firefox (32b) I want to upgrade to adobe-plugin (64b) but i cant remember step one | 01:36 |
| Joseph_ | Hello, guys I wonder if KDE 4.8 RC2 has any special way to install it. | 02:07 |
| Joseph_ | I did a fresh install, and added the repo and updated... and the KDE shows up but it is imposible to use its extremly slow | 02:08 |
| DerezzedGoat | Ok, I have troubleshooted my kde 4.8 crashes... and I am disturbed | 02:23 |
| DerezzedGoat | It is not my profile (I moved my .kde to a backup folder | 02:24 |
| DerezzedGoat | Also, it happens in KDM.. if I click on a text field | 02:24 |
| DerezzedGoat | My xorg logs didn't help | 02:24 |
| DerezzedGoat | (I didn't see anything obvious anyway | 02:24 |
| DerezzedGoat | but when KDM crashes, it brings me right back to KDM | 02:24 |
| GoatDerezzed | Ok, now I have my alternate PC set up, I sure could use some help figuring out why my KDE 4.8 from backports is mucking up my system so bad. It is not my config (moved my .kde) I can't log into another user until I fix my kdm, or switch to another display manager... anyway the problem so far has only affected KDE programs. KDM included, and that crashes when I click on the username field. | 02:32 |
| GoatDerezzed | ok... It happens for fvwm and twm immediate when they start. It does not start for xfce | 02:40 |
| GoatDerezzed | ... it does not crash on xfce | 02:40 |
| GoatDerezzed | any idea on how to tell what packages I installed most recently? I think I was trying to install some chinese input method editors | 02:41 |
| Joseph_ | GoatDerezzed, I got problem with KDE 4.8 RC2 too, it just too slow for usage | 02:46 |
| Joseph_ | in my system atlest | 02:46 |
| Joseph_ | havent got a work around will try to install it on my laptop too see if it was the Nvidia card on the tower or not. | 02:47 |
| GoatDerezzed | Joseph_ mine was working... | 03:11 |
| ross_jacobs | testing | 03:11 |
| GoatDerezzed | I see here something about cannot load /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/faces/.default.face: No such file or directory ... but this should have nothing to do with it... the next line is | 03:12 |
| GoatDerezzed | kdm_greet[958]: X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly | 03:13 |
| GoatDerezzed | (this is syslog... Now WHY? | 03:13 |
| GoatDerezzed | I already unistalled the im-switcher that I had installed. | 03:13 |
| ross_jacobs | new to IRC. Where should I go first? | 03:13 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | Hello. | 03:16 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | has that packages being out of sync issue been fixed? i never did find a ticket number to track it by | 03:16 |
| GoatDerezzed | ok, now I am pissed. | 03:52 |
| EvilResistance | !language | 03:53 |
| ubottu | Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 03:53 |
| GoatDerezzed | I need to test my memory, and there is no test memory option in the bootloader... I don't even know what bootloader kubuntu has now... and on top of that, extlinux is the onlyone I saw, and there are no obvious config files for it, and I ran the extlinux program, and it was not it. | 03:54 |
| GoatDerezzed | now I have to figure out what to do. | 03:54 |
| bsidb | kubuntu uses grub | 03:55 |
| bsidb | is the bootloader is grub? | 03:55 |
| James147 | kubuntu uses grub2 ^^ and the livecd should have the memtest option | 03:57 |
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| randomatix_ | Does anyone know of a way to get system-wide pie menus in KDE? I'm thinking something like Firefox's easyGestures might work well with a trackpad | 05:27 |
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| GoatDerezzed | well, I deturmined that I may have a graphics card problem, but I couldn't find a way to test graphics card memory in linux (any ideas) And, there is a reason why UCK is in it's own ppa... it corrupted my xorg.conf... or at least made it find the bad memory in my video card. | 06:02 |
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| Zeeky4 | so how exactly does this work? | 07:00 |
| Zeeky4 | does anybody even see what im typing? | 07:00 |
| Tm_T | sure we do see | 07:00 |
| Tm_T | welcome to #kubuntu, the kubuntu support channel | 07:01 |
| Zeeky4 | it just seems like every chatroom i go into is fill of idling | 07:01 |
| Zeeky4 | full* | 07:01 |
| Zeeky4 | so this is essentially a kubuntu help room? | 07:01 |
| Zeeky4 | ...oooor ignore me that works too ya know | 07:03 |
| almoxarife | any kubuntu/kde app backup gurus around? need help with the installed backup app, the default one | 08:50 |
| muh2000 | hi all | 09:41 |
| muh2000 | i have an issue: the tray icon of audacious isnt displayed anymore in the tray area :( | 09:42 |
| meNtha | hi | 09:55 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 14:25 |
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| mehrab | KDM won't start on my PC. it stucks on splash screen. it shows no errors | 15:51 |
| mehrab | any idea? | 15:53 |
| mehrab | it happened after an update when it asked to reconfigure kdm and stop it | 15:55 |
| BluesKaj | mehrab, did you try sudo service kdm start , or just startx | 15:58 |
| Sifrazooy | Hi , I was having an issue when i update today after installing Kubuntu , moun was installing updates but i jamed i had to close it and when i tried to install something now it gave me this error E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. | 16:00 |
| Sifrazooy | it jamed * | 16:00 |
| mehrab | BluesKaj : I entered it now in recovery mode. it said terminated with status 2 | 16:00 |
| Sifrazooy | SOLVED :D | 16:07 |
| BluesKaj | did you try startx . mehrab | 16:07 |
| BluesKaj | at the tty prompt | 16:08 |
| root | ? | 16:16 |
| yon_ | ?? | 16:16 |
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| EvilResistance | hehe, don't use the nick 'root' its taken :P | 16:16 |
| Guest63701 | haha | 16:16 |
| yon_ | really | 16:16 |
| Guest63701 | Im new too kde | 16:16 |
| mehrab | BluesKaj : yes, and didn't worked. and I should say I try these commands on recovery mode. because when the problem occurs I don't have acces to command line | 16:16 |
| yon_ | wellcome | 16:16 |
| EvilResistance | yon_: yes it is taken. also, ircing as root is bad | 16:17 |
| Guest63701 | Ive always used gnome | 16:17 |
| yon_ | okkk | 16:17 |
| yon_ | hey hey can i ask something | 16:17 |
| Guest63701 | yea | 16:17 |
| yon_ | i needed to download kubuntu 11.10 desktop theme, can you tell me any link | 16:17 |
| Guest63701 | ? Idk I'm using backtrack 5 r1 kde | 16:18 |
| Guest63701 | Default theme | 16:18 |
| EvilResistance | !theme | 16:18 |
| ubottu | Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy | 16:18 |
| EvilResistance | yon_: ^ | 16:18 |
| yon_ | soo when i have theme how can i install theme | 16:19 |
| BluesKaj | mehrab, to access the tty (command line) use ctl+alt +F1 to F6 | 16:20 |
| yon_ | soo when i have theme how can i install theme | 16:21 |
| EvilResistance | !repeat | yon_ | 16:21 |
| ubottu | yon_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait. | 16:21 |
| yon_ | my bad man sorry | 16:22 |
| yon_ | does anyone have anything to say about anything | 16:30 |
| mehrab | BluesKaj : startx didn't worked. there was an error: failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0) | 16:31 |
| yon_ | hey hey i need to ask something | 16:33 |
| yon_ | how can i get a modem driver for my hp pavillion dv1000 | 16:34 |
| mehrab | BluesKaj : and service kdm start output is : kdm start/running, process 2334 | 16:34 |
| yon_ | how can i get a modem driver for my hp pavillion dv1000 | 16:35 |
| BluesKaj | mehrab, which graphics card ? | 16:35 |
| yon_ | i said modem | 16:36 |
| mehrab | BluesKaj : ati | 16:36 |
| yon_ | how can i get a modem driver for my hp pavillion dv1000 | 16:37 |
| mehrab | BluesKaj : and not using proprietary driver | 16:37 |
| yon_ | how can i get a modem driver for my hp pavillion dv1000 | 16:38 |
| yon_ | how can i get a modem driver for my hp pavillion dv1000 | 16:38 |
| yon_ | how can i get a modem driver for my hp pavillion dv1000 | 16:38 |
| FloodBotK1 | yon_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 16:38 |
| lyn | 你们好 | 16:44 |
| BluesKaj | !cn | ly | 16:45 |
| ubottu | ly: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw | 16:45 |
| BluesKaj | ltoo late | 16:46 |
| mehrab | I'm stucked in kubuntu loading logo. it soesn't go to kdm login | 16:48 |
| BluesKaj | mehrab, drop down to a tty prompt , ctl+alt+f1 , sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-radeon , then reboot | 16:53 |
| mehrab | BluesKaj : nope, not worked. weired thing is /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is empty or does not exist | 16:58 |
| mehrab | how should i install ati graphic driver from repos in command line?? this may solve the problem! | 17:30 |
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| lordjj | So to try KDE should I install "kde-plasma-desktop" or "plasma-desktop"? What's the difference? | 17:39 |
| rork | !info plasma-desktop | 17:47 |
| ubottu | plasma-desktop (source: kde-workspace): KDE Plasma workspace for desktop and laptop computers. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu0.1 (oneiric), package size 787 kB, installed size 2616 kB | 17:47 |
| rork | !info kde-plasma-desktop | 17:47 |
| ubottu | kde-plasma-desktop (source: meta-kde): KDE Plasma Desktop and minimal set of applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:68ubuntu9.1 (oneiric), package size 2 kB, installed size 40 kB | 17:47 |
| rork | lordjj: with kde-plasma-desktop you get a set of KDE apps (dolphin & konqueror) it seems | 17:50 |
| lordjj | Yeah, I guess so. | 17:50 |
| lordjj | I'm surprised its only a 22.9MB download | 17:51 |
| rork | That's because you onlydownload part of the desktop, install kubuntu-desktop to get the full experience (i.e. kdepim) | 17:52 |
| lordjj | I'm running Ubuntu 11.04, the latest KDE in the repos is 4.6.5 | 18:03 |
| lordjj | Can I get 4.7 on it? | 18:03 |
| lordjj | Do I have to add a repo? | 18:03 |
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| BluesKaj | lordjj, http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.7 | 18:08 |
| usr10 | vc vai amanhã | 18:11 |
| BluesKaj | !br | usr10 | 18:13 |
| ubottu | usr10: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado. | 18:13 |
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| lordjj | Where is the network manager icon in KDE? How do you connect to wifi? | 19:03 |
| ts2 | in the system tray, where it's always been. or just use System Settings -> Network Settings | 19:04 |
| lordjj | I just installed kde-plasma-desktop, logged in with KDE and couldn't find it. Can you be more detailed as to how I can connect to wifi? | 19:07 |
| ts2 | lordjj: install kubuntu-desktop if you want to full set of Kubuntu and KDE tools | 19:09 |
| lordjj | I noticed the screen kept flickering black occasionally. Any idea why that might happen? | 19:10 |
| ts2 | I've never seen that, but it's possibly related to compositing, but that's only a guess | 19:11 |
| lordjj | Does it use compiz? | 19:11 |
| lordjj | Because I have compiz installed | 19:11 |
| ts2 | by default, KDE uses KWin, but it can use Compiz too | 19:12 |
| lordjj | Is that set in System Settings? | 19:12 |
| ts2 | yes, under Default Applications -> Window Manager | 19:13 |
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| lordjj | The network manager icon has a red icon over it and I can't connect to wifi. Anyone knows about this? | 20:17 |
| OliveGreen | Hello there | 20:30 |
| OliveGreen | Someone please help me. The Muon package manager is refusing to start. It crashes right after I try to start it. | 20:31 |
| OliveGreen | Sorry. I meant the Muon Software Center | 20:32 |
| Sifrazooy | OliveGreen try this in the terminal sudo dpkg --configure -a | 20:34 |
| OliveGreen | Sifrazooy, Nope. That did not fix it. | 20:36 |
| Sifrazooy | OliveGreen sry that is the best i can do :D | 20:36 |
| lethu | OliveGreen, have you tried rebooting? | 20:37 |
| Torch | OliveGreen: what do you mean with "crashes"? is there a backtrace? is there meaningful log output? we need for information to be able to actually help you and not just guess. | 20:38 |
| OliveGreen | lethu, Of course I have. | 20:38 |
| lethu | OliveGreen, then try launching it from a console and watch for error msgs | 20:39 |
| lethu | OliveGreen, or like Torch suggested look for the crash logs | 20:39 |
| OliveGreen | Torch, I mean it crashes as in it closes and brings up a "report bug" window. | 20:39 |
| OliveGreen | lethu, what's the command? | 20:39 |
| OliveGreen | http://www.pastebin.com/PFrsE9UC | 20:45 |
| lethu | OliveGreen, can you run another software manager? ie. Synaptic? | 20:47 |
| OliveGreen | lethu, It's okay, I'm using Muon Package manager instead of Software Center. | 20:49 |
| BluesKaj | OliveGreen, forget muon , yours is only one of many reports about muon crashing in the last few weeks...use apt-get or apper or even adept and synaptic | 20:49 |
| OliveGreen | BluesKaj, I see. I was just going to say it seems it was a very bad choice to put Muon as a default Software Center in the default Kubuntu in installation. :( | 20:50 |
| aguitel | i try kubuntu 12.04 live cd (daily build) but it dont load | 20:50 |
| lethu | OliveGreen, Synaptic provides at least the same functionalities (in fact it has even more features which Muon doesn't have) | 20:54 |
| BluesKaj | package managers are just a reference for applications/packages descriptions in the repos ... apt-get is the cleanest method , also IMO :) | 20:54 |
| lethu | as Muon | 20:54 |
| lethu | BluesKaj, but you also have the choice to use a GUI | 20:55 |
| lethu | some prefer Gui's, others prefer commandline | 20:55 |
| BluesKaj | synaptic is still in my kmenu/panel | 20:55 |
| lethu | it's a question of personal preference | 20:55 |
| BluesKaj | gui as a package reference , yes | 20:55 |
| OliveGreen | Okay ppl, I also have this really weird problem with my father's new laptop but I'm not sure you can help me fix it. | 20:57 |
| BluesKaj | ask , you might be surprised | 20:57 |
| lethu | OliveGreen, it wouldn't hurt if you tried exposing the problem | 20:58 |
| OliveGreen | Dad just got a new Core i5 HP Pavilion 9 series laptop. And for some reason, the wireless connection seems to be very weak on it although it's located in the same room as a reuter! | 20:59 |
| OliveGreen | The laptop I'm using now is also located in the same room and it doesn't have that problem. The wireless signal is full here! | 20:59 |
| BluesKaj | windows 7 or Linux ? | 20:59 |
| OliveGreen | Linux of course. Kubuntu. | 21:00 |
| jessie | OliveGreen: Have you tried it in Windows? | 21:00 |
| lethu | OliveGreen, is something standing on the way between the laptop and the router? | 21:01 |
| lethu | OliveGreen, or is it supposed to have an antenna plugged in? | 21:01 |
| OliveGreen | jessie, well.. Nope. I haven't.. | 21:01 |
| BluesKaj | OliveGreen, which wireless chip ? | 21:01 |
| aguitel | i try kubuntu 12.04 live cd (daily build) but it dont load ,anyone know this ? | 21:01 |
| OliveGreen | lethu, nothing big enough to block the wireless coverage. | 21:02 |
| jessie | OliveGreen: Does it have Windows on it? If so, I'd try that. That will give you a good idea if it is a hardware or software problem. | 21:02 |
| OliveGreen | BluesKaj, how can I find out? | 21:02 |
| OliveGreen | jessie, Nope. No Windows on it. | 21:02 |
| lethu | OliveGreen, as jessie said, it comes down to pin pointing wether it's a hardware or software problem | 21:03 |
| BluesKaj | OliveGreen, make sure the laptop is using the same network as yours | 21:03 |
| OliveGreen | BluesKaj, It is. | 21:03 |
| lethu | OliveGreen, ie. the wireless integrated card may be damaged | 21:03 |
| OliveGreen | lethu, Yes. That's right. | 21:03 |
| jessie | OliveGreen: Okay. Go to a terminal and do 'lspci'. One of the results will say something like 'Network controller: Intel Corperation Centrino Ulitmate-N' | 21:03 |
| OliveGreen | lethu, but the Laptop is really brand new. | 21:04 |
| jessie | OliveGreen: Hardware can fail at any time. Might've been DOA or they forgot to plug in an antenna. | 21:04 |
| lethu | OliveGreen, DOA (dead on arrival) hardware can happen | 21:04 |
| lethu | OliveGreen, brand new doesn't necessarily guarantee it's not broken | 21:05 |
| BluesKaj | OliveGreen, run this in the terminal , sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid , and pastebin the output please , if any. | 21:06 |
| BluesKaj | wlan0 or it's equivalent on the laptop of course | 21:08 |
| OliveGreen | BluesKaj, The Network controller is a Broadcom and the Ethernet controller is a Realtek. | 21:13 |
| BluesKaj | !Broadcom | OliveGreen | 21:14 |
| ubottu | OliveGreen: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 21:14 |
| OliveGreen | BluesKaj, well the additional driver seems to be already activated. :/ | 21:20 |
| sebas_ | How can I disable the 10mins powersave of the video?? | 21:42 |
| sebas_ | I google my @ss off.. but cannot find a solution.. tried to do xset -dpms but does not work.. video still goes off after 10 mins of no mouse activity | 21:47 |
| OliveGreen | I just realized HP hardware is complete junk.. :/ | 22:16 |
| excognac | hi all. For various reasons, I'd like to format my HD. Which is the easiest way to save my kubuntu settings? | 22:20 |
| excognac | anyone here? | 22:35 |
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