[00:01] meeehhhh [00:01] dude it's a dragon [00:01] oops [00:01] darn wrong channel [00:02] You are *amazing* at doing that === panfist is now known as ses1984 [02:22] is this the official Lubuntu channel? [02:24] voidvector: its the only one i know of... you can review the /topic, and feel free and ask a question if you have one [02:24] ok, cool [02:26] i have issue with pcmanfm, whereby if i open one directory on the desktop and close it during a session, i would not be able to open another directory on the desktop [02:26] i can launch it seperately and navigate to it [02:26] anybody experience similar issue? [02:27] i use thunar [02:27] im not sure what the issue is [02:27] run me throught it again... [02:29] basically the desktop in lubuntu (which i think is supplied by the first instance of pcmanfm) doesn't launch new instance of pcmanfm correctly [02:30] you mean ~/Desktop ? [02:30] correctly? or as you want it to? [02:31] no [02:31] i remember in windows soemthing would happen where you have a directory open, and getting another instance open is a drag [02:31] mabye thats OSX? [02:31] i forget [02:31] im just not clear still sorry [02:31] when you lauch your file manager? [02:32] basically the desktop doesn't launch the file manager correctly, but i can still launch file manager manually via console [02:32] the desktop? [02:32] like folder icon in ~/Desktop [02:32] you mean, some icon labeled desktop? [02:33] what does it do? [02:33] does it not navigate to ~/Desktop? [02:33] lets say i place a folder in ~/Desktop [02:33] right [02:33] it shows up on my screen [02:33] OK... [02:34] ~/Desktop/test [02:34] you see "test" on your actual desktop? [02:34] yes, and i double click it [02:34] OK [02:34] it doesn't launch pcmanfm [02:34] whats it do? [02:34] nothing [02:34] that's the problem i have [02:34] eh [02:34] i would worry much about it [02:34] you can look for a bug [02:34] im sure there is one [02:35] Unit193: you know about this one? [02:35] i know things are lighter for a reason, and there could be something missing there [02:35] holstein: What'd I miss (Tried to follow mostly, failed) [02:36] Unit193: say, in LXDE.... mkdir ~/Desktop/test [02:36] i am gonna do a fresh install on a VM and see if the same issue happens there [02:36] then, you click on the "test" icon and that doesnt open in thunar [02:36] voidvector: another idea is that its just not associated to open in thunar for some reason... not to imply you broke it [02:37] Right, desktop is pcmanfm and you're trying to get them to open in thunar? [02:37] Unit193: sorry [02:37] i meant PCman [02:37] ignore thunar there [02:38] it actually launchs fine on first try (after a login), but fails after that [02:38] holstein: So I opened a folder on the desktop (it did in pcmanfm), closed, opened another, closed, opened another [02:38] voidvector: wow... thats interesting... shoots the file association thing down... [02:39] Unit193: is that LXDE? [02:39] i was trying to figure out if there is a log or something i can read [02:39] voidvector: you are in 11.10? [02:39] but i can't find one [02:39] voidvector: you can also try making another user accound and see if you can replicate it there [02:39] holstein: Lubuntu, but it was Maverick once [02:40] voidvector: /var/log or maybe dmesg? [02:40] holstein: oh, that's faster than installing a VM, i am gonna try that [02:40] mv .config .configgg ;) [02:40] yea, i am running 11.10 [02:41] brb, i am gonna try [03:07] Greetings, I recently installed Lubuntu and need to know how to invoke wireless networking [03:08] Is there a command line phrase I can use to invoke it? [03:11] Hey jalcine, do you know how to get the wireless on Lununtu fired up? [03:11] Lubuntu [03:13] What's wrong? There should be a little icon down at the bottom [03:14] Unit193, Hey there, I click the icon and it does not give me a wireless option [03:14] Is there a command line option I can use to force networking to show up? [03:15] If it's not showing up, that leads to driver issues, hit up lspci in a terminal and use paste.ubuntu.com to show the output [03:17] The computer in question has no internet connection now. I installed Lubuntu at a friend's place and networking was fine and all--i saw many wireless networks to pick from. When I took it home, the options were gone [03:17] I am using another computer at a friend's place to ask [03:17] I should have installed wicd-client [03:17] But did not [03:18] I'd assume you have "Enable Networking" and "Enable Wireless" checked? Wireless AP close enough, and no hardware switch? [03:20] Bottom left hand corner, do i right or left click the windshield icon? [03:21] I would think it's an up and down arrow [03:22] oops, bottom right hand corner [03:22] ps aux|grep nm-app and tell me if you see it [03:22] as root [03:22] ? [03:22] Nope [03:24] holstein & Unit193: update from 30min ago, the PCManFM problem i described happens in a fresh install of Lubuntu 11.10 with no update installed, but it is fixed in an updated version of Lubuntu [03:25] so i am gonna check my own settings [03:25] voidvector: Did you happen to see an update of pcmanfm go in? [03:26] nevermind, it happens even in an updated version of Lubuntu [03:26] but not sure why it didn't happen right after the update [03:27] i am not sure if there was an update of PCManFM [03:30] Unit193, looks like i have no | key on the other computer [03:31] lovely [03:31] Do you have htop? [03:32] Unit193, i got it working, the key was stuck and the command invoked, what am i looking for? [03:33] nm-applet on that list? [03:34] yes it is! [03:34] Didn't you say you didn't see it at the bottom? [03:35] when i invoke it it says an instance is already running but it could not initialize the dbus manager [03:35] Unit193, i did not see an option for wireless [03:35] It does not give me 'wireless options [03:35] Normally I should see several networks to choose from [03:36] I did not see the option to "enable wireless" at all [03:37] !wifi [03:37] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [03:37] Unit193, There is a difference between Ubuntu and Lubuntu [03:37] They use different wirless clients [03:38] I just want to get the Lubuntu client to detect wirless signals [03:38] What do I do to get it detecting signals? [03:39] iwconfig [03:39] The difference is only in UI, note the entire thing [03:40] (UI and default programs, but most CLI things should be the same) [03:46] I don't understand why it worked at my friends place and I took it home and wirless is no longer an option [03:46] Typical linux [03:46] Not really, did you have a hardware switch? [03:47] No, this is for a desktop [03:47] USB? [03:47] No [03:47] Wireless card [03:50] Can you lspci it? [03:55] * bkm wonders if anyone has experienced busybox using a lot of cpu. not sure why or what to do about it. === Folklore2 is now known as Folklore [04:10] Unit193, yep, it's ther eis lspci [04:28] voidvector: I've had to mark it as invalid, as I cannot reproduce it with the steps you outlined. It works fine on my 11.10 system. [04:29] !bug 917475 [04:29] Launchpad bug 917475 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "PCManFM desktop instance fails to launch new instance of PCManFM folder" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/917475 [04:43] phillw: which iso image are you using? [04:46] voidvector: Linux piglet 3.0.0-14-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 21 20:28:43 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [04:46] -rw-r--r-- 1 phillw phillw 702853120 2011-11-18 03:36 lubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso [04:48] that's odd, i am using fresh install, and it still doesn't work for me [04:48] As it is my production machine, I do not do anything 'fun' with it, I have VM's to run trial ppa's etc in. [04:49] voidvector: the only thing I could suggest is to drop to CLI and force an apt-get update? [04:50] but, the GUI for update does that. try the GUI one 1st and see if anything changes. [04:50] i did a apt-get update before [04:50] but i didn't do dist-update [04:50] doing that now to see if that changes anything [04:52] dist-update *should* be safe...ish, be careful if you have any ppa's enabled. [04:53] well, the problem occurs on my main Linux box, but i am able to reproduce it in a VM on my windows box [04:54] and this is where i am doing the dist-update [04:55] oh [04:55] i think i just figured out the actual problem [04:55] i close the window with Ctrl-W [04:55] if i close the window with the X button on the top right, it seems to work [04:56] despite what people here have stated, aptitude update; aptitude upgrade has a different result than apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. i know one is supposed to be a wrapper for the other, but that has not been my personal experience [04:59] bkm: indeed they do. [05:00] been there, got the tee-shirt! [05:00] I never *touch* aptitude [05:00] phillw: do what, sorry [05:01] voidvector: yes, I can reproduce that :) [05:01] go edit the bug & I'll back it up. [05:01] Unit193: i would like to get apt-get to work. i'm not sure why aptitude works better. (pi88es me off!) [05:01] Ctrl+q is an alt [05:02] As I've seen it said; Stick to one of them and one only [05:03] bkm: there are differences between the two of their behaviour. I have come accross it before. It is no point the devs saying they are the same, when as they use different dbases to store things on, they are not. Hence the advisement to only use one of them. [05:04] phillw: that makes sense. i don't even know where the aptitude db is /etc/aptitude/sources.list {i pray not!!} [05:04] bkm: it could be a corrupt dbase, sam as can happen with aptitude. Nuke it and get it re-built. [05:04] no, it not sources! [05:05] phillw: perhaps you are saying that both use sources.list, but have their own dbs that operate differently? [05:09] they both use sources.list [05:10] bkm: sorry for pauses, someone wants to chmod -R 777 a phpBB type application.... I'm still in WTH mode :) [05:11] phillw: no worries. i appreciate the information. [05:12] but if anyone has thoughts on what might set busybox off, i would be interested. [05:12] phillw: i updated the bug, if you can reopen it. obviously it is a low priority bug given it only affect Ctrl-W people like me :) [05:14] bkm: to reset apt-get use the thread at http://uug.byu.edu/pipermail/uug-list/2009-October/002919.html take time to read through the thread [05:15] thx [05:21] voidvector: confirmed [05:22] voidvector: it is a 'paper-cut' one of those annoying little bugs, I'm sure pcman will be quite happy to squish it dead :) [05:23] well, that's me done! I'm off to bed. tc [05:46] ive just installed lubuntu on my laptop but i cant hear sounds how do i fix it [05:49] punkmexic, perhaps as root type alsamixer [05:50] punkmexic, ensure all the levels are up and nothing is muted [06:03] how do i add volume icon on taskbar? [06:04] i right click and click add etc but doesnt work [06:07] punkmexic: what do you mean doesn't work? [06:08] it doesn add the volume icon to taskbar [06:08] so you right click on the panel and then "add / remove panel items" [06:08] yes [06:09] click "panel applets" tab [06:09] yes [06:09] click "add" button [06:09] yes [06:09] click "volume control" [06:09] click "add" button [06:09] click "close" button [06:09] and nothing? [06:09] yes i have 3 volume controls on panel preferences but they arent disiplayed on taskbar [06:10] k [06:10] so let's do something for grins [06:10] alt-f2 to get a "run" prompt and do type "openbox --restart" [06:11] do it again, this time "lxpanelctl restart" [06:11] see if that fixes anything. if not then we know it's not the window manager/panel [06:12] if that does nothing open up lxterminal and type "aplay -l" -- you should get some output indicating you have a playback device or two [06:12] if not, that's either a driver or a hardware problem [06:12] if that's good then type "alsamixer" [06:13] if you know you have multiple devices check to see that "card" lists the right one, if not select via f6 [06:13] http://pastebin.com/xVhyuuCG [06:14] i have this sneaking suspicion it's the 2nd card you want. do you have an hdmi out on the computer? [06:14] yes [06:14] hdmi out [06:14] but i dont have anything connected or cable for it [06:14] yeah so the card you want in alsamixer is HDA ATI SB [06:14] fix it with f6 if needed [06:15] but is not saved [06:15] i always select hda ati [06:16] so you mean you have to select it every time? [06:16] the "default" if you will is not the right card? [06:16] yes [06:16] there's your problem [06:16] everytime i enter to alsamixer [06:16] one sec [06:17] just to be sure, in lxterminal: [06:17] lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio" [06:18] http://pastebin.com/Av5MhHLx [06:19] driver seems good [06:19] what computer you have? [06:20] asus [06:20] looks like its working with pulseaudio and not alsamixer [06:20] maybe thats the problem [06:21] well [06:21] yeah [06:21] that the volume indicator is for alsa and not for pulse [06:21] that's where things get funky with ubuntu's audio [06:21] pulseaudio is THE audio server with an alsa plugin [06:22] what can we do to solve this [06:22] working on it [06:23] give me /etc/modprobe/alsa-base.conf [06:25] bash: /etc/modprobe/alsa-base.conf: No such file or directory [06:25] sorry modprobe.d [06:26] bash: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf: Permission denied [06:26] i also used sudo and says command not found [06:26] uh [06:26] wtf [06:26] are you trying to pastebin it or what? [06:26] i can more it without elevated privs [06:27] ill try to avoid pasting sorry [06:29] sudo less /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf [06:29] are u thinking? [06:30] ok i found the solution [06:30] http://pastebin.com/3Hw4yLux [06:30] if you found the solution i have another problem :P [06:30] no nevermind i didn't [06:30] ok [06:30] now i'm getting my card confused with yours :D [06:30] :P [06:30] help us bioterror [06:30] :) [06:30] that's not the whole file is it? [06:31] i dont know i just was be able to copy that [06:32] what seems to be the problem? [06:32] if I may ask [06:32] no sound? [06:32] i cant add the volume icon to taskbar in lubuntu [06:32] i have sound now [06:32] it seems his main audio device is the 2nd [06:32] but default was no sound [06:32] should i reboot? [06:32] so the sound is trying to go to hdmi out :( [06:35] ... [06:35] my computer is 64bit [06:35] and i installed 32 [06:36] but i have read that theres no problem doing that [06:37] have you updated all your packages? [06:37] all of em [06:38] harumph [06:38] i see people having trouble with that card here and there but there are extremely inconclusive solutions [06:38] and problems too for that matter [06:38] i'm a bit at a loss [06:38] illl reboot to sseee what happens [06:38] brb === punk is now known as punkmexic [06:43] now i dont have sound [06:46] should i install some alsa programs [06:47] installing asoundconf-gtk [06:55] when i hit on mouse motion and put it to 100 it doesnt save that [06:58] hi [07:39] anyone know how to get the archiver in lubuntu to extract to a directory of the archives name? [07:40] all I can get it to do is spill all the files to the current directory [07:40] then I have to try and clean up the mess [07:40] someone made a worse package :( [07:40] I mostly make a temp folder where I extract packages [07:40] yah, guess that would work [07:41] I actually right click and goto "Extract to" [07:41] then I create a new folder [07:42] but I liked the convince of just extracting to a directory [07:42] you can never be too sure if someone else made that compressed package ,) [07:52] anyone had any experience with system76 machines? [08:15] If I have a harddisk with no installation on it but it has data... and I want to install Lubuntu onto it. How do I do that without losing the data? [08:16] Is it in /home/user? [08:17] Would be better to just back it off onto another drive in case it dosen't go well [08:17] No, it used to be my secondary hard disk in a Lubuntu machine, but then the first hard disk with Lubuntu on it died and I was hoping to use the secondary one as the primary one now. [08:18] use gparted [08:19] and resize that partition [08:19] bioterror: Will it not destroy the data on the partition? [08:19] you may be able to resize without damaging anything [08:20] Hmm... so best for me to move it into another computer... but as always my other machines are Windows and cannot read that partition :( [08:21] use lubuntu live media and connect to windows computer with samba [08:21] and move over network then [08:21] bioterror: Oh, lubuntu is a live CD? I forgot that one. [08:22] all the desktop versions of *buntus are [08:22] * Ascavasaion grins... now to find the CD hehehe [11:24] Hey :) I need help.. someone can help me to set up my internet card D-link DWL-650+? Through ACX100? [11:25] I get confused... [11:28] Ohh. I'll back later.. [12:28] Hello everybody.. I need help to set up my network adapter.. it's D-link dwl-650+...... thanks for help! I don't understand the manual to set it up on acx100 project [12:48] Hello everybody.. I need help to set up my network adapter.. it's D-link dwl-650+...... thanks for help! I don't understand the manual to set it up on acx100 project [13:03] please someone can help me? [13:25] IdanSuper, Unfortunately, I'm of no help in this matter. Just hang on in this channel till someone who can help gets back to you :) [13:43] IdanSuper: Is your machine up-to-date? [13:43] yes [13:43] run lubuntu 11.10 [13:44] I think you need module-assistant. I am not sure about it. I just remember doing something like running following commands will help. try running the following [13:45] 1) sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essentail [13:45] Did you get the driver from sourceforge? [13:46] okk [13:46] and Yes.. [13:47] i don't know how to install the firmware [13:47] E: Unable to locate package build-essentail [13:50] I am not sure whether I got the right link. Just try reading http://helloubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/04/install-d-link-dwl-650-on-debian-40.html and tell me whether you have gone trough the steps before [13:52] Okk Hope it works!! [13:53] I need it connect to my computer during the installation? [13:54] Aye [13:56] and one more thing [13:56] I don't have any file in that folder [13:56] /etc/apt/sources.list.d [13:59] what Can I do.. I can't continue with the process.. [14:02] IdanSuper: you dont have /etc/apt/sources.list ?? (no .d) [14:03] hoo [14:03] I found it [14:03] thank you very much again [14:03] and I found one more thing on this process [14:03] the firmware link doesn't work [14:04] on the prepare the firmware [14:06] IdanSuper: Get the firmware from sourceforge. Sorry for the late responses. I am held by some other works too [14:06] okk.. [14:09] I don't have the url that I need to add to that file [14:09] so I try to edit it and I don't have a permission.. [14:11] sudo ? [14:12] why sudo will help me? [14:12] I'm using leafpad [14:13] not lxterminal.. its like notepad.. and it say that I need permission to save my modified file with the line that I need.. [14:14] you can set the permission by running the following to get the write permission: sudo chmod +w "file name with path" [14:16] can't open file to write [14:16] after run that command [14:22] IdanSuper: if you need to edit the sources.list, first do a sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.JIC so you have a backup, then issue gksudo leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list so that you can save your edit. [14:27] W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian.org unstable InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AED4B06F473041FA [14:29] so I can't download that:apt-get install wireless-tools module-assistant acx100-source [14:34] IdanSuper: give me a mo & I'll get you the link... [14:34] ohh? [14:34] what is mo? [14:35] he was supposed to say min* [14:35] http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt [14:35] IdanSuper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/KeyServerInformation [14:35] phillw: searching for this? ^ [14:35] IAmNotThatGuy: nope, i was searching for how to add a key :P [14:35] * IAmNotThatGuy prefers debian first ;P [14:36] phillw: the link I gave has all ;P [14:36] * phillw prefers instructions we know work with lubuntu :P [14:36] hehe [14:37] okey.. I don't understand how phillw link can help me? [14:38] you have to add a key first and that is your issue [14:38] IdanSuper: use it to add the key AED4B06F473041FA [14:39] sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys AED4B06F473041FA [14:39] IdanSuper: ^^ [14:40] thank you! [14:51] ┌────────────────┤ module-assistant, error message ├─────────────────┐ │ [14:51] Ignoring this package. Maybe you need to add something to │ sources.list, maybe the contrib and non-free archives [14:53] many trubles :( [15:20] running 11.10, i've got a realtek 8188ce wireless device, it works out of the box, but it is extremely slow (it maxes out around 100k) functions fine under windows... not even sure where to start in looking at this. [15:30] do we really need the zeitgeist stuff on lubuntu? [18:29] Tried to install NVIDIA 290.10, but was told to turn off the X server. How do I do that? Init 3 and cntrl-alt-F1 did not work [18:29] lubuntu 64 [18:29] 11.10 [18:30] how do I kill the X server in Lubuntu? [18:35] venik212: start a terminal and run sudo lxtask :) [18:35] view => show root tasks [18:35] what does that do? [18:36] kill xorg process :) [18:36] venik212: it starts the task manager of lubuntu :) [18:36] right click on xorg => force close (or something similar - i'm using the Dutch version ) [18:36] I think I need to be in a non-gui (command line) mode [18:37] I'll try that [18:37] venik212: you can start a terminal with ctrl + alt + t :) [18:38] that is interesting! didn't know it existed. [18:38] venik212: you understand? :) [18:38] bkm: you mean lxtask? :) [18:38] yeah [18:39] :D [18:39] Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" <- i get that all the time. does not seem to hurt anything [18:39] bkm: not a problem :) [18:39] Just that you started a Qt program :) [18:40] (looks uglier) [18:40] :p [18:41] 13107 bkm 20 0 14264 1240 1240 R 83.2 0.2 1150:23 openbox <- this has been going for quite a while. not sure what is causing it to take over my meagre resources. it DOES seem to hurt something [18:41] I think venik killed his Xorg server ;) [18:42] try to install a package for the canberra problem: sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk-module [18:42] i've done it too ;) [18:43] smile: that sounds familiar... [18:43] :) [18:45] smile: interesting. it's installing. i wonder if i typoed or something. why would not some dependency have installed that for me? [18:45] bkm: because they didn't think about running a Qt program maybe :) [18:46] i see it a lot. i would think at some point there would be a dependency! [18:47]