[10:19] <s-fox> Hello.
[10:19] <benonsoftware> Hello
[10:19] <s-fox> Hello benonsoftware
[10:27] <IAmNotThatGuy> hello s-fox
[10:30] <coalwater> bye benonsoftware :D
[10:39] <s-fox> Hello IAmNotThatGuy
[10:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> how are you s-fox ?
[10:43] <s-fox> I am good thank you IAmNotThatGuy :-)
[10:43] <s-fox> How are you?
[10:44] <IAmNotThatGuy> s-fox: Just came back to office after celebrating my birthdays in Goa for the past 3 days
[10:46] <s-fox> That sounds like a lot of fun
[10:46] <IAmNotThatGuy> s-fox: Well, I went alone ;P
[10:47] <IAmNotThatGuy> Had a good time for enjoying the shores and some good time to spend for my research about life =]
[10:48] <s-fox> What have you foudn so far?
[10:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> s-fox: a lot. I will come and talk once I come back after tea :)
[11:49] <Goodguy69> Can anyone tell me why home users shouldn't use Redhat Linux? I've seen it said in a couple of forums.
[11:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> Goodguy69: It is not like that. People mainly use redhat for servers for its high security. Also, you have to buy it =]
[11:51] <geirha> And more enterprise software supports redhat than ubuntu
[11:51] <geirha> or rhel rather
[11:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> however its easy to use fedora (a red-hat family) :)
[11:52] <s-fox> I use RHEL
[11:52] <Goodguy69> Cool thanks for that. Thought it was strange.
[11:53] <s-fox> RHEL is what I use on my servers anyway
[11:53] <s-fox> ;)
[11:53] <geirha> The home desktop version used to be called redhat though, which may have caused some confusion
[12:59] <s-fox> I will be back later. Goodbye.
[18:19] <E3D3> My intern hd's Grub2 is messed when I tried to install another distro (Trisquel) to an extern hd. How can I recover my old Grub 2 ?
[18:29] <E3D3> Do I have connection ?
[18:31] <philipballew> E3D3, we see you. someone should work on it soon. you need to reinstell grub is what you need to do
[18:32] <E3D3> philipballew: Thanks, I was worried being disconnected or ignored for a stupid question.
[18:33] <philipballew> no, you can always ask in #ubuntu as well. i can show you the documentation if you need it
[18:34] <philipballew> i dont have time to help much
[18:34] <philipballew> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[18:35] <E3D3> phillipballew: I have some nice help, but its > 40 screens text. Have to write it down /remember all to try it. :-(
[18:45] <coalwater> you could reinstall grub by mounting it on a live cd  session then use grub-install
[18:46] <coalwater> ok that didnt make much sense
[18:46] <E3D3> yes, a little.
[18:47] <coalwater> give me a second
[18:51] <coalwater> E3D3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/807727/ , do this from a live cd session
[18:53] <E3D3> I try it immediatly. I'm so sorry to ask you this and thank you very much.
[19:00] <E3D3> Done it & got no complaints :-) I reboot now & report afterwards.
[19:11] <E3D3> coalwater: I don't no what to say. I'm home again, within minutes instead of suffering for hours. Tell me if I can do something back. I'm so gratefull & thank you more than much.
[19:14] <E3D3> Also cool that you can do your accurate magic with my little info and all that GRUB2 info. I must be grub2-dyslectic & wait for v3.
[19:22] <coalwater> E3D3: so its working good now ?
[19:24] <E3D3> Without issues. Still have to let Grub find Kororaa on this intern hd but think that is much easier to find out, without help. I'm a little ashamed because I have spend much time in Grub but it doesn't stick in me. Thank you again very much.
[19:25] <coalwater> i dont know much about grub myself, i just remembered that i saw this issue on a youtube vid before, searched for it and got the description and pasted it.
[19:26] <coalwater> there's a command for grub to scan available os's
[19:26] <coalwater> i dont remember it
[19:31] <E3D3> I spend hours to learn Grub 1, made & stored excerpt. Have now only Grub2 for tripleboot system ! Spended hours to learn Grub2 but didn't finish it because of strange exeptions in reality. This accident urges me to try again. Your accuracy gives me hope but something resist in me to absorb all this like I used to. Maybe I becoming old fast. I scanned for excisting OS's before & remember it as no problem.
[19:38] <E3D3> Done - Already had OS-prober installed here (Ubuntu). I found Kororaa, so I guess I'm finished. Wish I could buy you a beer :-)
[19:39] <E3D3> * I found = It found
[19:58] <coalwater> E3D3: haha, well thanks, but even if u could i don't really drink, i can accept a virtual juice though lol
[19:59] <coalwater> if you want to mess with something u can always create a virtual machine
[20:07] <E3D3> Don't know what you exactly mean with 'create' but tell if I can help somehow.
[20:11] <coalwater> E3D3: you know what a virtual machine is?
[20:12] <E3D3> Yes, I had some OS's in Sun's VirtualBox until they upgraded it. Have to learn to use the new version. Never worked with Qemu.
[20:13] <coalwater> well, that's what i was saying, if u want to test some grub stuff, u might try on a vm first, just in case
[20:13] <Snicksie> sun is now owned by oracle, so its called oracle virtualbox. Works still quite the same as the sun version E3D3 :)
[20:14] <coalwater> and yea, like Snicksie says,it didn't change much, just the logo :D
[20:14] <coalwater> of the owner i mean
[20:14] <coalwater> virtualbox.org i think is the website
[20:14] <E3D3> Managing the virtual media changed if I remember well
[20:15] <coalwater> im not sure what reference u are using, but its pretty easy to set up
[20:15] <Snicksie> well, its not difficult E3D3 :)
[20:16] <Snicksie> and you cannot do much wrong with just a virtualbox :) If you need help with setting it up, just ask it here and we'll try to help you :)
[20:16] <E3D3> Nice, thanks.
[22:30] <E3D3> coalwater: May I ask you something, again about Grub2 ?
[23:06] <E3D3> coalwater: nm. Its solved. (instead of trying in VM did I follow your orders with 2nd distro - wrong bootpartition. Then I reinstalled Grub & other apps etc until the chaos got sick of itself and it all settled down.)  :p
[23:31] <top500> i am traying to istall ubuntu on new hard dr. / Gateway Itel_Pentium 4 cpu 3.06GHz 1BG ram /Ubuntu 11.10 /it starts good for 30.sec and then friz and go nowhere ???? any help