[00:54] <bkerensa> ISK: I think you need to go through MOTU process
[01:00] <micahg> ISK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[01:06] <ISK> bkerensa: How to do I do this?
[01:06] <ISK> micahg: I have a launchpad account, and I made 2 packages from a sources of new software that is not part of Ubuntu distro yet.
[01:18] <micahg> ISK: I gave you a link on how to get new packages into Ubuntu if that's what you're asking
[02:55] <bkerensa> micahg: Do you know how to do canned messages with the launchpad greasmonkey script
[02:55] <micahg> bkerensa: install the package from the PPA?
[02:57] <bkerensa> micahg: I have it installed but I'm not sure how to use a canned reply
[02:57] <bkerensa> :D
[02:57] <micahg> bkerensa: click on it?
[02:58] <bkerensa> I think the script is still not working in Precise.... bdmurray had said something about that
[03:02] <bkerensa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-gm-scripts/+bug/917461
[03:02] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 917461 in launchpad-gm-scripts "stock replies do not work in Precise (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[05:07] <brokenfingers> Can someone please change 164932 to Triaged, Wishlist? Thank you in advance.
[05:10] <micahg> bug 164932
[05:10] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 164932 in vkeybd (Ubuntu) "Suggestion for a new keyboard map" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164932
[05:11] <micahg> brokenfingers: done, thanks
[05:12] <brokenfingers> micahg: Thanks!
[07:11] <brokenfingers> Is 151536 good to triage?
[07:11] <micahg> bug 151536
[07:11] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 151536 in evolution-data-server (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[MASTER] E-D-S hangs on login and uses 100% cpu (affects: 15) (dups: 6) (heat: 20)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151536
[07:51] <brokenfingers> bug 817326 can someone change importance of LibreOffice Productivity Suite to Critical?
[07:51] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 817326 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync (affects: 13) (heat: 64)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/817326
[07:57] <micahg> brokenfingers: already is
[07:57] <micahg> brokenfingers: oh, you mean upstream, that's set upstream
[07:58] <brokenfingers> micahg: yah. not LO in ubuntu, the other one
[07:59] <micahg> brokenfingers: no fixable
[07:59] <micahg> *not fixable, it's an enhancement upstream
[08:02] <brokenfingers> oh ok thank you
[10:27] <Wellark> hello! Could someone in bug control set the importance of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/894340 ?
[10:27] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 894340 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Release Upgrade Fails: depency cycle for libtinfo5/libncurses5 (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[10:28] <seb128> Wellark, do you get that issue?
[10:28] <Wellark> seb128: yes
[10:28] <Wellark> it's on my primary development machine
[10:29] <seb128> it's being discussed on #ubuntu-devel at the moment
[10:29] <Wellark> ok, joining there
[13:57] <Ursinha> chrisccoulson, why is bug 917317 invalid?
[13:57] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 917317 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Your G&%D#@$ useless sh86ware deleted all of my bookmarks and saved passwords!!!!!!!!!! (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/917317
[13:58] <seb128> lol
[13:58] <chrisccoulson> Ursinha, because I'm not going to waste my time dealing with people who don't even have basic manners ;)
[13:58] <seb128> Ursinha, didn't read the bug but such titles don't help to get anyone reading your bug reports usually
[13:59] <chrisccoulson> and from experience, dealing with them really is a waste of time
[13:59] <Ursinha> I know, but I would at least give the user the canned response about not following the CoC
[13:59] <chrisccoulson> i did mean to do that actually
[14:00] <chrisccoulson> feel free to add that if you want :)
[14:01] <Ursinha> I just really want to not give ppl reason to say "see, they don't care about what we say and blablablabla they invalidated my bug and said nothing blablablabla"
[14:01] <Ursinha> not that it would stop them from doing so
[14:01] <chrisccoulson> sure, but i think most people would appreciate why it's closed :)
[14:01] <Pici> Eech, the bug description is even worse than the title.
[14:01] <hggdh> I certainly do.
[14:02] <Ursinha> but the ball would be in their side of the court ;)
[14:03] <hggdh> the actual border is unknown, but experience has shown that when it starts this way, the *start* is the high point
[14:03] <Ursinha> hggdh, what do you mean?
[14:03] <hggdh> this is the best you can expect from the OP
[14:04] <hggdh> no always, etc, etc, but most times
[14:04] <Ursinha> so you invalidate the bug because it won't be useful?
[14:04] <hggdh> and -- no matter what -- if you cannot keep civilised on an error, there is no discussion possible
[14:06] <Ursinha> I just think we could invalidate the bug being more clear about why, to avoid more flames
[14:06] <hggdh> you invalidate it because of all: (1) aggressive, testosterone-driven behaviour; (2) lack of civility; (3) absolute disregard to others; (4) lack of paragraphs (makes it even more painful for me to follow)
[14:07] <Ursinha> he might have a valid problem, and it's not because of they way it put it it's not a bug
[14:07] <hggdh> Ursinha: if you want to, add a comment about education, civility, respect to others, and the CoC
[14:07] <Ursinha> I agree that if it's not possible to discuss, invalidating it is the way, but with at least the canned response mentioning the CoC
[14:08] <hggdh> go for it, I agree
[14:08] <Ursinha> :)
[14:08] <hggdh> (or I will do it)
[14:09] <Ursinha> hggdh, whatever suits you best :)
[14:09] <hggdh> I will do it
[14:14] <hggdh> done
[14:21] <Ursinha> hggdh, thanks :) will use your comment as canned response next time I find one :)
[14:21] <hggdh> Ursinha: heh
[14:25] <mr_pouit> mmh, "9d9" user on lp changed the status of many bug reports a few hours ago, without explanation..
[14:26] <Ursinha> argh..
[14:26] <Ursinha> mr_pouit, do you have an example? if the user is messing up data, we can talk to launchpad people to have him suspended...
[14:27] <mr_pouit> Bug #191889
[14:27] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 191889 in baltix (and 22 other projects) "[MASTER] [WORKAROUND] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. (affects: 73) (dups: 17) (heat: 672)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191889
[14:27] <Ursinha> old bug?
[14:27] <Ursinha> what the..
[14:28] <mr_pouit> (and many more, mostly changing statuses bak to incomplete without a comment)
[14:28] <mr_pouit> *back
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[14:28] <Ursinha> hm
[14:28] <hggdh> there we go
[14:28] <Ursinha> mr_pouit, I've triaged a bug from this user days ago, it was a valid one
[14:28] <Ursinha> he might be only trying to help
[14:30] <hggdh> Ursinha: still, it goes to what we chatted about: a status change == one more comment
[14:31] <Ursinha> hggdh, no no, I completely agree, I mentioned that because we might want to talk to him prior to blocking his user :)
[14:31] <hggdh> oh yes
[14:31] <hggdh> *always* try a contact before a more hard approach
[14:36] <Ursinha> hggdh, well, unless the user is trying to sell viagra :P
[14:38] <roadmr> "Ubuntu, Viagra, they all sound the same to me" :P
[14:38] <Ursinha> lol
[14:41] <Ursinha> in the firefox bug subject yet, it could be worse, we could start giving such users this: http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/funny-gifs-than-six-words-appear.gif
[14:42] <hggdh> heh
[14:43] <hggdh> mr_pouit: I emailed 9d9 asking for an explanation. Meanwhile I guess we just suck up to it ;-)
[16:53] <om26er> which package is responsible for low battery dialog?
[16:54] <seb128> what version of ubuntu?
[16:54] <om26er> seb128, precise
[16:55] <seb128> gnome-settings-daemon I guess
[17:03] <wagafo> I think bug #880299  can be nominated for SRU to Ubuntu 11.10, it is now fix released for Precise. I wrote a justification as a comment in the bug.
[17:03] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 880299 in tomboy (Ubuntu Precise) (and 2 other projects) "Tomboy causing delay on logout or shutdown (affects: 54) (dups: 4) (heat: 296)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/880299
[17:05] <micahg> wagafo: are you preparing the fix?
[17:06]  * om26er volunteers 
[17:07]  * micahg gives a task then
[17:07] <micahg> done
[17:09] <wagafo> micahg: no, I'm just a newbie triager
[17:12] <htorque> om26er: hi, do you know a duplicate for bug 917522?
[17:12] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 917522 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "panel doesn't resize when screen changes (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/917522
[17:13] <om26er> not sure about a duplicate but it embarassed me at a presentation :/
[17:13] <om26er> htorque, its a common issue, i will look for a duplicate
[17:13]  * om26er looking
[17:13] <htorque> i had a compiz restart during the setup for a presentation, hehe.
[17:14] <om26er> that also happened to me last thursday, and wow :p
[17:17] <om26er> htorque, bug 907939 is one example
[17:17] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 907939 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Unity launcher positioned incorrectly after external monitor detach (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/907939
[17:18] <htorque> same class, different bug :P
[17:18] <htorque> guess that will all be fixed if/when both displays get a launcher
[17:30] <bdmurray> mvo: How does a bug like 917173 get fixed?
[17:33] <Ursinha> bug  917173
[17:33] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 917173 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) (and 1 other project) "lucid -> precise upgrade failed: Resolver failed to calculate the upgrade - dpkg-dev held back (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/917173
[20:25] <mvo> bdmurray: hm, puzzling I need to looks at this in detail, but I don't see why apt complaining it looks like libdpkg-perl should be fine to install
[20:27] <mvo> bdmurray: I followed up in the bugreport
[23:32] <Muphrid> hi, i reported a bug and apport said it was a duplicate and linked to a non-existant page
[23:34] <dlentz> Muphrid, what number?
[23:34] <Muphrid> dlentz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nux/+bug/917930
[23:35] <dlentz> The duplicate bug is marked as private. It should be changed and usually is
[23:36] <Muphrid> ah
[23:36] <Muphrid> ok
[23:37] <dlentz> If it doesn't get changed soon. you can remove the duplicate stauts
[23:38] <Muphrid> ok thanks
[23:38] <dlentz> yw
[23:41] <bdmurray> and if it does get changed you should put your test case in the other bug
[23:45] <bdmurray> Muphrid: there I've made that other one public
[23:47] <Muphrid> bdmurray: link?
[23:47] <bdmurray> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nux/+bug/916088
[23:47] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 916088 in nux (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in nux::GridHLayout::KeyNavIterationRowOrder() (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Medium,Confirmed]
[23:48] <Muphrid> ok will add info
[23:58] <bkerensa> bdmurray: Who handles ubiquity?
[23:58] <bkerensa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/902479
[23:58] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 902479 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "LiveCD Installer Progress/Details Expander Does Not Show Progress (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[23:58] <micahg> bkerensa: the ubuntu-installer team