[00:00] Aha, not giving it 'net access during install worked! :D === slvr|lin is now known as slvr [00:05] this looks like how to connect menus to functions to do stuff https://answers.launchpad.net/unity/+question/158722 [00:07] Anybody shop at Sainsbury's and know how to decipher their receipts? [00:08] BGTY TNA MY 3X80G [00:08] BGTY is Be Good To Yourself, but I can't workout TNA MY [00:08] tuna mayo [00:09] YES! [00:09] Thank you :D [00:09] It's the 3 tin packs of ready mixed tuna mayo that Hayley has been buying [00:10] hmm i didn't know you could get ready mixed tuna mayo [00:11] well, not in a tin anyway [00:13] ali1234, your life shall now be forever changed? ;) [00:15] a little bit [00:31] subversion isn't in software centre for 12.04 - that's going to make my life difficult [00:31] whaaaaat [00:32] that makes no sense [00:33] Just a little [00:33] Well, it's there. But not available [00:35] * bigcalm pokes the software sources [00:35] That was it. Universe wasn't enabled [00:35] Weird [06:52] hi! i've messed up my /usr/share permissions, can i get an advise on how to fix them? [07:21] morning all [07:22] hi AlanBell [07:22] how's the pangolin treating you? [07:22] I try to be nice to him as much as possible [07:23] 8-) [07:23] * AlanBell tickles pangolin [07:23] * pangolin giggles [07:23] kan I haz a cookie now? [07:23] !cookie [07:23] Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [07:24] MartijnVdS: it is kind of like oneiric, perhaps fractionally more polished in places [07:25] but some big things are not done yet [07:25] hi! i've messed up my /usr/share permissions, can i get an advise on how to fix them? [07:26] and they have broken more things for orca users, some of them quite inexplicable regressions [07:26] v14502424: what did you do? [07:27] well, i was compiling a kernel, so i moved share folder to ntfs partition due to limited /usr partition size [07:28] v14502424: pretty much everything there should be owned by root and should be -rw-r--r-- [07:28] what about the executables? [07:29] executables shouldn't be in /usr/share/ [07:29] the most sure way would be to reinstall all your packages [07:29] Not necessaily a system re-install, dus dpkg -i (or apt-get --reinstall) everything you already have installed [07:30] Hi [07:31] thanks a lot! [07:32] v14502424: actually there are executables in there [07:33] Hi AlanBell [07:33] is there a way to log user details once a user logs in to the system ? [07:33] I have auth.log and history [07:34] user details like IP and username [07:34] or do i need to have audit system in place [07:35] and is there a way to prevent removing history ? [07:35] of root user [07:35] MartijnVdS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/807125/ executable files under /usr/share, way more than I thought there would be [07:36] kaushal: there isn't much you can prevent the root user from doing [07:36] AlanBell: ah scripting languages. Of course. [07:46] AlanBell: ok [07:47] AlanBell: Please suggest about is there a way to log user details once a user logs in to the system [07:47] is it done using audit system ? [07:53] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man8/auditd.8.html [07:53] something like that I imagine [07:58] ok [08:00] you could send logs to a remote machine [08:00] but then you'd need to secure that one [08:00] in the end you need to trust someone [08:04] morning all [08:07] aloha [08:07] morning czajkowski how are you? [08:09] ntb [08:09] good good [08:09] to early eh! :) [08:12] just laying in bed [08:12] pah! [08:12] gets a bit boring [08:12] i'm at work, so yours seems the better idea [08:14] :) [08:14] tea time [08:14] bbiab [08:14] ;ater [08:17] good morning [08:17] \o [08:18] morning christel MartijnVdS [08:23] Morning peeps :) [08:24] Morning [08:25] * daubers eats a nice hot bowl of porridge [08:29] omnomnom [08:29] i should make breakfast [08:29] i may copy you and do porridge [08:29] christel: you can make me a cooked breakfast, if you like :P [08:30] sure! [08:32] road trip to christel's house for brekkie [08:32] i should bake stuff.. after my flourlol. [08:33] MooDoo: did you hear how clever i was? [08:33] unpacking my ocado delivery and realising that when i edited from 1 to 2 1KG bags of flour i'd managed to change to quantity to 20 [08:33] i now have 20KG of flour [08:33] oh dear :P [08:33] FLOUR!@ [08:33] christel: Time to open that bakery [08:33] hehe [08:34] i am pretty certain i wouldn't make the same error if i was shopping in store rather than online! [08:34] christel: wow clever :) [08:34] christel: it would be difficult, but I'm sure you'd manage ;) [08:35] very! you'd have thought i'd spot it from the basket total at the very least, but no :( [08:35] bigcalm: oi! [08:35] :P [08:35] * bigcalm squeezes christel :) [08:35] I bet they wondered what you are up to with all that flour [08:38] hehe [08:38] mind, i did order some squishy circuit stuff, maybe i should just use ALL the flour to make massive amounts of conducting and insulating dough [08:39] christel: Working for the american penal system now? [08:39] christel: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35qguf/ [08:40] hahaha [08:40] christel: squishy circuit stuff? is that like sugru with embedded wires? :) [08:40] haha sort of, though less effective for fixing stuff i guess! [08:41] it's more like homemade playdough with wires (and blinky lights and stuff) -- it claims to be "fun for toddlers" [08:41] ooh [08:41] * MartijnVdS looks at the TED talk about it [08:41] christel: MartijnVdS i've sneaked a look at christels house http://s3-media4.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/jqFQNJhvg2M1ujeXATKlCQ/l.jpg [08:41] hahaha [08:45] Morning all: Love this cartoon http://doctormo.deviantart.com/art/Groklaw-PJ-Tribute-204801749 [08:46] morning alan :) [08:47] Morning christel [08:47] And everyone else BTW. [08:50] Morning all [08:51] mornign === imexil1 is now known as imexil [09:13] \o/ [09:13] howdy daubers [09:14] http://daubers.co.uk/~matt/lolfail.png [09:15] Error message of the day \o/ [09:16] ooh, I know what that CD is [09:17] :) Slowly working my way through [09:17] then I can send some epic visualisation stuff to a potential customer [09:17] morning all [09:18] Should see if there's a bug about that really I suppose [09:20] I assume it's nautilus throwing that message? [09:22] Right, a day of tweaking 12.04 into a useable dev setup. 1st off, how does one install skype? :) [09:22] bigcalm: not part of a useable dev setup :P [09:23] bugzilla is rubbish [09:27] bigcalm, apt-get install vim, done! [09:41] emacs [09:41] Holy war time [09:42] bleeeh, i have a collection of ghibli films from one distributor. they happened to number them, 1-14. i have them all. but now they released the latest movie and gave it the number "6". what am i supposed to do with that >:( [09:42] gord: twitter angrily about it. [09:42] What else? [09:42] thinking maybe scan it in and gimp it? i dunno [09:43] gord: do you have a list and a link? [09:44] Myrtti, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Studio-Ghibli-Collection-DVD-Releases/lm/2YHXRBPUIU816 [09:45] but the company have decided to "start again" with the numbering for blu-ray double plays. but you can't get Arrietty on bluray without it being a double play [09:46] whoa [09:46] quite many I've not seen [09:47] * bigcalm remembers not to ask questions if he really needs some help [09:50] the gem in that list that i hadn't seen until i built up the collection was whisper of the heart, which might take over princess mononoke as my second favourite ghibli movie [09:50] it helps to see the cat returns first however, its a kind of semi sequel of a sort [09:55] Buenos días a todos! [10:19] Hello. [10:19] morning s-fox [10:19] Hello MooDoo [10:19] s-fox: how are you [10:20] Nervous, excited, freaked out... [10:20] Take your pick ;) [10:20] s-fox: wassup? [10:20] ah just seen your twitter [10:20] good luck [10:20] MooDoo: :) [10:20] what position? [10:20] matti: ? [10:21] MooDoo: Just smiling ;/ [10:21] :< [10:21] matti: oh, thank you :) lol [10:21] :) [10:21] Well I am nervous about the interview, php dev MooDoo [10:21] s-fox: ah you'll ace it. You know php don't you? [10:21] 5 years of experience. [10:21] Might mean I know a bit [10:21] s-fox: well then nothing to worry about [10:22] I am excited because my hunt for a new job is getting somewhere finally. [10:22] Freaked out because I have had 2 other companies contact me in the last 36 hours. [10:22] PANIC ;) [10:23] s-fox: don't panic, remain calm, and chill it's only an interview [10:23] lol [10:25] Valium o'lock [10:25] clock* [10:25] Hi MartijnVdS ;] [10:26] hi :) [10:26] Hello matti :) [10:31] Hi s-fox :) === georgios is now known as GiorgioShooter [10:38] Synergy is sending @ as q to my laptop. Makes setting up email tricky [10:38] well it kind of looks like a q doesn't it [10:39] Anyone had any dealings with gotoassist? [10:39] Need a decent remote support solution [10:39] smittix: cross-platform? [10:41] MartijnVdS: Yeah. [10:41] I was looking at Teamviewer. [10:41] smittix: teamviewer works but is expensive [10:41] TightVNC and RealVNC come with "reverse connection" options [10:41] I suppose I could roll them out via AD too. [10:41] (i.e. they connect to your listening client) [10:46] good morning everyone. [10:46] Hi brobostigon [10:46] hi matti [10:54] morning all [10:54] czajkowski: prod [10:55] morning biatch, er i mean davmor2 [10:55] ian hislop at the enquiry, interesting, talking about private eye. [10:55] MooDoo: Morning you owld hipster you [10:56] davmor2: how's it hanging? still trying to annoy czajkowski i see, good on ya [10:56] MooDoo: I figure her's well enough now for a gentle goad [10:57] * brobostigon watches and listens carefully, and would like a recording. [10:57] brobostigon: where? [10:57] AlanBell: bbc news 24. [10:57] Stupid idea : Is there a screencasting solution that will record RDP? [10:57] Has anybody here got Skype running on 12.04 alpha1? [10:58] It would seem to be a total no-brainer - a protocol designed to convey your screen to a remote client with a minimum of bandwidth should be eminently suitable for screencasting. [10:58] I hear you've just volunteered [10:59] awilkins: you can do it with vnc [11:00] AlanBell, But doesn't VNC record the video of your whole screen? I'm aware you can screencast / record with VNC but I've yet to get it working satisfactorily on Windows [11:01] I shall have another go with a more recent build of VNC. [11:01] * Myrtti observes minute of silence on the 404 of jaiku.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9RwkNVqtog [11:01] This is for muggles to make me recordings of the use of features in tools so we can comprehend / optimize the UI [11:01] awilkins: doesn't RDP do the whole screen? [11:02] AlanBell, It does, but the protocol is pretty tight - it will work over a modem. The only thing that comes close in my experience is NX [11:02] It just seems a perfect way to capture screencasts in very little bandwidth [11:02] is there an RDP server for Ubuntu? [11:02] AlanBell, There's a client, but I'm not aware of a server [11:03] But this is for recording Windows sessions :-) [11:03] Aha, xrdp [11:04] http://www.xrdp.org/ [11:04] !info xrdp precise [11:04] xrdp (source: xrdp): Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-1ubuntu1 (precise), package size 260 kB, installed size 1524 kB [11:05] So presumably you could add a timebase to a serialized RDP stream and get a very tight screencast [11:05] depends how chatty it is about missing bits [11:16] Is there a way I can change the "VPN Connection Successful" notifier popup to tell me the IP address I've been allocated - just a matter of convenience, so I know which IP address to feed into another terminal? [11:17] awilkins: not wihtouht hacking the source [11:32] The python script I have to use to connect to a client's VPN tells me the IP address I've been allocated [11:32] One could grep ipconfig maybe [11:36] not ifconfig, ip [11:36] ifconfig = old & busted [11:36] ip addr = new hotness [11:39] awilkins: 2 things you can try looking under vpn on n-m under edit Connections, or look at the options in xrdp [11:39] * brobostigon is reminded of men in black, with MartijnVdS's statement there. [11:39] bigcalm: yes, just got it working [11:40] bigcalm: run it from a terminal, I got skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXv.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory === cgriff is now known as Guest47048 [11:41] bigcalm: and I did sudo apt-get install libxv1:i386 and now it works [11:41] as much as skype ever works [11:47] AlanBell: great, thanks === TREllis_ is now known as TREllis [11:58] AlanBell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/807289/ [12:01] oh :( try sudo apt-get install ia32-libs [12:02] Anyone got any experience writing Apache2 modules? I want to intercept some of its logging and ideally change what's logged and how, alternatively just Do Stuff on certain things being logged. More wondering about the feasibility than after an actual tutorial right now. [12:03] BigRedS: you can set log formats and pipe to programs [12:03] BigRedS: is that not enough? :) [12:04] AlanBell: should I install the 32bit version from skype.com then? [12:04] BigRedS: Writing a module using mod_perl2 or mod_python would be the easiest I guess [12:04] bigcalm: no, the '64 bit' version is 32bit with a veneer of 64ness to it [12:04] Ok [12:04] And install the dependancies before skype? [12:04] don't think that matters [12:05] or the dependencies are wrong now I think [12:05] or they get put in the wrong place [12:05] * AlanBell hasn't really got a clue [12:11] Might have to leave it until this evening. It's not coming easy [12:17] dogmatic69: turns out the reason that cakephp 1.1 can run on php 5.3 is APC was installed. Found out by trying to run the project on a new system without apc [12:17] Hi btw [12:20] Might put the HDD back in the laptop so that I can be productive in London tomorrow [12:24] bigcalm: :/ [12:34] MartijnVdS: Belated thanks! I'd not noticed the mod_perl approach. Should be a good deal easier than subduing C :) [12:58] I will be back later. Goodbye. [13:22] dogmatic69: it's odd. apc provides a compatibility layer? [13:22] bigcalm: could be cached [13:23] From when? I checked out the project on a fresh ubuntu 12.04 install. Site didn't work. Installed php-apc. Site worked [13:23] who here reads OMG! Ubuntu! ? [13:24] simondbull: why you ask? [13:24] some of us here do [13:24] But by no means all [13:25] oimon:just wondering about people's opinions on it [13:25] garbage [13:25] it caters to a certain audience [13:25] oimon: i guess it does [13:25] and has its uses. [13:26] I read some of it's stuff along with half a dozen others [13:26] not quite as bad as the register though [13:27] omg is brilliant for thiose who want to publicsize software [13:27] they certainly have a high readership, and are influential [13:27] it is a tabloid [13:28] a lot of readers (judging by the comments on OMG) look like reactionary, influential teenage redditor types [13:28] if it excites the kids into getting involved then great [13:28] yeap, it looks as if its opular among the 20-somthings too [13:29] a lot of canonical people read it [13:29] and the comments [13:29] i don't read omg, but i do read reddit [13:29] i dare say it has a better reputation more recently compared with some inflammatory articles a couple of years ago [13:29] well the reddit.com/r/ubuntu bit anyway [13:29] gord i've seen you on reddir [13:30] it looks as OMG! is an integral platform for canonical developers to find out what the people think of certain topics..... [13:30] reddit/ubuntu is just re-posts of omg articles anyway [13:30] i pretty much never go to reddit [13:32] i tend to skim over it in the morning instead of filtering through rss feeds [13:32] never found an rss reader that i get on with [13:32] liferea now supports google reader [13:32] Liferea is the closest I've got to happy. === Oli`` is now known as Oli [13:34] supports google reader how? [13:34] if its via the export thing in google reader then i don't want it [13:35] gord: allows you to access/update feeds setup in google reader [13:36] gord: http://ubuntuone.com/6wonY9vagG27VaNefb2ARL [13:37] for a long time it didn't support tags/folders from goog but now it does [13:39] i notice banshee amazon revenue is increasing rapidly [13:39] (http://jaap.haitsma.org/2010/12/27/getting-close-to-1000-gnone-amazon-affiliate-fees-november-2010/) [13:59] I do wish that Rhythmbox had better buffering for last.fm [14:00] bigcalm: it uses the live feed rather than buffering iirc [14:01] Then I wish last.fm had more bandwidth ;) [14:01] I don't recall it being this intermittent on the website [14:02] bigcalm: have a look at gconf-editor type thing and see if you can see if there is a buffer limit for it and if there is increase it :) [14:15] * czajkowski hugs davmor2 [14:15] * MooDoo hugs czajkowski and davmor2 then stabs them both for being sucky [14:15] * davmor2 prods czajkowski how's the back now [14:18] nurse is happy with the healing [14:18] still need to keep it covered and change bandages every 2nd day [14:18] czajkowski: Woohoo soon the barrage begins [14:19] davmor2: and I've still not threatened any harm this year so faar [14:19] they must of removed your hate spleen when you were under [14:19] "hate spleen"? [14:20] czajkowski: Yeah but I've mostly been nice to you due to injury :P [14:20] gord: awwww I've always loved you!!! [14:20] why doesn't liferea scroll with new feeds? [14:25] Weeeeeeeeeeee spinny triangles [14:26] daubers: whee, OpenGL 101 done? [14:26] daubers: now.. fragment shaders.. [14:26] MartijnVdS: Doo wha? Now I need to make some rectangles [14:27] and then cuboids [14:27] out of felt? [14:27] for teacher? [14:27] * davmor2 tickles czajkowski to test her reflexes [14:27] no_tickles sorry [14:27] :) [14:28] czajkowski: man you feet move fast though ;) [14:28] this was my back last week - http://twitpic.com/85koay [14:28] ouchy [14:29] so no poking tickling me please :) [14:29] or as someone tried to do recetly pat me on the back [14:29] hahaha oh genius why didn't I think of that [14:30] gord: If I can make cuboids then I'm more or less done what I need to do \o/ Then I just need to make the colours change with different states [14:30] daubers: no fragment shaders? [14:30] MartijnVdS: Dunno what they are :) [14:31] Pixel shaders, also known as fragment shaders, compute color and other attributes of each pixel. :) [14:31] They can alter the depth of the pixel (for Z-buffering), or output more than one color if multiple render targets are active. [14:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shader [14:31] Why would I need those to just make some spinny boxes :) [14:31] daubers: I thought you wanted shiny spinny boxes [14:32] davmor2: any word on the house? [14:32] czajkowski: try and pick the right person deary :p [14:33] bugger [14:33] daubers: any word on the house [14:33] czajkowski: They didn't accept my offer. Again wanted more than the house was worth [14:34] dumb people [14:34] czajkowski: language mrs [14:34] yes dear [14:34] daubers: oh noes :/ [14:34] czajkowski: Meh, their loss. Just keep looking [14:35] As much as I want a house, I'm not willing to lose a) money and b) sleep over it [15:51] !ping [15:51] another contentless ping... sigh... [15:51] !ping [15:51] Silly semi intelligent bot [15:57] !ping [15:57] another contentless ping... sigh... [15:57] !ping [15:57] !ping [15:57] It ignores you if you ask again too quickly [15:57] Anti-flood protection [15:59] Unbelievable as it may seem, laptop LCD displays actually have to work harder to display dark colours than light colours. A full black background may consume ~0.5% to 1% more power than a fully white background. [15:59] i learned a few things today, this was one of them [15:59] But a dark background won't blind you at 4am in the mroning. [15:59] hmm, yes, that is kind of true [15:59] jutnux: 4am is for sleeping [16:00] oimon: Not if there is work to be done. [16:00] if you're working at 4am , someone somewhere has done a fail [16:00] Indeed [16:01] or you're a night shift worker [16:02] or you just enjoy your job too much and forgot to stop working ;) [16:02] i have a little alarm now that tells me its 6pm so that i stop working [16:02] is it beer on a stick? [16:03] I'm 15, I have no such job, just freelancing ;-) [16:05] bigcalm: on a plus side at least you can use last.fm in rb :D [16:07] 15? blimey [16:07] davmor2: rb? [16:07] Oh [16:07] Yes [16:07] It's got that going for me [16:07] s/me/it [16:08] MooDoo: blimey? === ormiret_ is now known as ormiret [16:08] jutnux: i'm 25 years older lol [16:10] MooDoo: 15 do you remember those days, when the mullet was the only hair style and madonna and mj ruled the chart [16:10] mind you the rock and metal were better then [16:10] \m/ [16:12] Metal \o/ [16:12] Wood! \o/ [16:13] bigcalm: however it is our fault that the ozone is dying all those lighters being lit for the famous songs [16:13] brick \o/ [16:13] davmor2: oh yeah :D and luminous green pop socks for the girls [16:13] heh lighters, have you been out to see bands recently? iphones ;) [16:13] lame [16:13] gord: just not the same though dude [16:14] saw an app to imitate a lighter on an iphone once. ain't fooling anyone [16:15] heheh [16:15] too many hipsters at concerts nowadays [16:16] I went to a Bonjovi one and was swarmed by old, drunken men. [16:16] are you male/female? [16:16] Male. [16:16] I also got the ticket for free :-) [16:16] i went to see the pixies 20years ago and it was the loudest thing i'd ever heard [16:17] you haven't roomed with people at UDS then, easily the loudest snoring in the world ;) [16:17] beaten only by the 10 minutes of white noise during MBV's you made me realise. [16:18] [#ubuntu-uk] [16:18] Whoops. [16:37] i have a win laptop beside me to test something. must have clicked the "gonna restart in 15 mins, restarrt later" thing about 20 times in a row before getting annoyed enough to open services.msc and stopped the flipping service. one of my most hated thing about windows [16:40] oimon, Yeah, I find that a real PITA when playing games [16:41]