| rick_h__ | jcastro_: Blazeix http://www.shopandroid.com/samsung-2100mah-extended-battery-w-door/8A37A9667.htm | 01:14 |
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| rick_h__ | now in stock | 01:14 |
| snap-l | Saw a T520 today with the extended battery | 01:41 |
| snap-l | Holy shit, that's a lot of battery | 01:41 |
| snap-l | and the owner was saying "Well, it's an i7, so I hope I get 3-4 hours of battery with it" | 01:42 |
| snap-l | I'd be pissed if that was only as much as I got with it. | 01:42 |
| rick_h__ | ouch | 01:45 |
| rick_h__ | yea, guess it depends on how you run it | 01:46 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Your video is not visible to mere mortals | 01:47 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: yea sorry | 01:47 |
| rick_h__ | oh well, it'll be public soon enough | 01:47 |
| rick_h__ | and everyone can report bugs like mad | 01:48 |
| snap-l | Oh we will | 01:48 |
| === Blazeix is now known as Blazeix_ | ||
| snap-l | Grrrrrrrrrrrr | 11:44 |
| snap-l | Still have not received a check from $LASTJOB | 11:45 |
| rick_h__ | ruh roh | 12:04 |
| snap-l | Yep, so I get the joy of calling them between the hours of 8:30 and 5:30 | 12:16 |
| snap-l | My hope is that someone didn't tell me (in the sprawling exit interview checklist) that the last check would be mailed | 12:20 |
| rick_h__ | ah, maybe I guess | 12:20 |
| mydogsnameisrudy | morning | 12:20 |
| brousch | had a great grpug meeting last night | 12:23 |
| rick_h__ | awesome | 12:23 |
| brousch | found out that wtf code from the other day was written by students, so that explains a lot | 12:23 |
| rick_h__ | gotcha | 12:24 |
| snap-l | so they really didn't know what they were doing. That would explain things. | 12:24 |
| brousch | met 2 more django/python programmers | 12:24 |
| brousch | well, begenning django and python | 12:25 |
| brousch | snap-l: yeah, so their code ended up looking like a CS assignment | 12:25 |
| snap-l | brousch: Go with what you know. :) | 12:27 |
| brousch | met a lot of kids (20-25) in the local startup thing | 12:27 |
| brousch | very energetic, but they live on $500-$1000/mo | 12:27 |
| brousch | crazy | 12:27 |
| rick_h__ | yea, statup life is a bit nuts | 12:27 |
| rick_h__ | if it was 10yrs a ago though...then again I didn't know then what I know now so that is just scary | 12:28 |
| brousch | i never had the moxie for that | 12:29 |
| brousch | i think we got the food circles guy heading in the right direction with his code | 12:30 |
| brousch | heh, i opened rick_h__'s video on youtube in another tab. when i switched back i was wondering where that giant vim window had come from because i didn't remember opening any code today | 12:33 |
| rick_h__ | :) | 12:33 |
| snap-l | http://openmetalcast.com/2012/01/17/stop-sopa-pipa/ | 12:40 |
| snap-l | Testing out the plugin | 12:41 |
| === Blazeix_ is now known as Blazeix | ||
| rick_h__ | ah, the joys of the great expense report...in HUF currency wheeee | 12:50 |
| snap-l | Oh, that's gotta be fun | 12:51 |
| snap-l | I'm surprised they don't just give you all AmEx cards and call it a day. :) | 12:51 |
| snap-l | QoTD: Half off ALL PANTS! | 12:52 |
| snap-l | (Banana Republic) | 12:52 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: +1 on the concept of a Lovecraftian gwibbering idiot... | 13:00 |
| rick_h__ | good grief, AMD rantings on the interwebs .../me hides | 13:13 |
| Wolfger | uh-oh | 13:14 |
| Wolfger | should I have sold my AMD stock already? | 13:14 |
| rick_h__ | sorry, wrong AMD | 13:14 |
| rick_h__ | JS AMD | 13:14 |
| rick_h__ | http://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/oka38/amd_is_not_the_answer/ | 13:14 |
| rick_h__ | and of course the replies coming back, it's rant worthy material for me :) | 13:15 |
| * Wolfger breathes a sigh of relief | 13:15 | |
| tjagoda | so much fog toady | 13:36 |
| tjagoda | today* | 13:36 |
| rick_h__ | yea, going to be a crummy day it seems | 13:36 |
| rick_h__ | so much for sneaking in another bike ride | 13:36 |
| tjagoda | This is a bad day to have gotten little sleep | 13:38 |
| tjagoda | Weather is conspiring against me | 13:38 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: It's the internet; if we can't come up with something to bitch about, we'll explode. | 13:51 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Let me guess which comments set you off: | 13:52 |
| rick_h__ | pyohio, olf, what am I missing I should be putting on the calendar? | 13:52 |
| snap-l | http://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/oka38/amd_is_not_the_answer/c3hzvsz | 13:52 |
| snap-l | Penguicon | 13:52 |
| snap-l | PyCon? | 13:52 |
| rick_h__ | yea, I think Pycon is a go | 13:52 |
| rick_h__ | getting final mgr approval today hopefully | 13:52 |
| snap-l | w00t | 13:52 |
| rick_h__ | so just checking what else I should mark up on there | 13:52 |
| snap-l | Penguicon. ;) | 13:53 |
| rick_h__ | yea...feel like I'm missing something...but can't put my finger on it | 13:53 |
| snap-l | Dev Days detroit, but not sure when that's happening | 13:53 |
| rick_h__ | yea, checked that and don't see any future news on there | 13:53 |
| tjagoda | rick_h__ no longer embraces penguicon | 13:58 |
| tjagoda | Not enough tech? | 13:58 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: It's a fight to get him to show up one day. | 13:58 |
| snap-l | personal goal is to get him to show up all three days, and get a hotel room | 13:59 |
| * snap-l also doesn't divulge his secret plan to get rick_h__ to do karaoke | 13:59 | |
| tjagoda | scary times | 13:59 |
| tjagoda | I dunno if I will be at this Penguicon | 14:00 |
| tjagoda | Right now there is some work travel scheduled in that timeframe | 14:00 |
| brousch | .me shakes his fist at django admin | 14:00 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: ok, ready...set...here I go! ... | 14:01 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Destination? | 14:02 |
| rick_h__ | ranting on django admin and how it's a complete "fake" feature that I despise to no end | 14:02 |
| * tjagoda has never been to an OLF | 14:02 | |
| snap-l | tjagoda: OLF is fun | 14:02 |
| rick_h__ | tjagoda: really? it's not bad. | 14:03 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: I'm of two minds for django admin | 14:03 |
| rick_h__ | I regret when I do go and I regret when I don't go so I'm not sure what I think any more | 14:03 |
| snap-l | on the one hand, it's nice to get something up and running quickly. | 14:03 |
| tjagoda | rick_h both hates and loves people | 14:03 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: This last year wasn't so bad, was it? | 14:03 |
| rick_h__ | I think that's the split. I like the people, I don't care for most of the talks/material | 14:04 |
| snap-l | I mean, we did learn a new term for shrimp | 14:04 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: yea, it was ok, but I didn't see a single talk really | 14:04 |
| snap-l | "sea bugs" | 14:04 |
| rick_h__ | I still use sea bugs | 14:04 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Neither did I, and I still had a blast. | 14:04 |
| rick_h__ | to this day, we're having sea bugs for dinner thurs actually | 14:04 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: yea, why I say a bit torn | 14:04 |
| snap-l | I think of OLF as permission to let out my inner freetard. ;) | 14:05 |
| rick_h__ | this year a couple of people have moved out west so not sure who will be there to hang out with as much | 14:05 |
| rick_h__ | we'll see I guess. I'm not sure if I'll do olf this year | 14:05 |
| rick_h__ | but if you've never gone, I'd say you should get down there tjagoda | 14:06 |
| brousch | i have not been to olf | 14:06 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: here we go again | 14:06 |
| snap-l | brousch: You should come too | 14:06 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: I think I want to trade conference value with hack time and social time | 14:06 |
| rick_h__ | I got some social time, but tethered to the booth limited hack time | 14:06 |
| rick_h__ | so when I walk away with how did the trip go it's a hit/miss | 14:06 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Don't make me get the duck tape | 14:06 |
| rick_h__ | lol | 14:06 |
| rick_h__ | it's in sept, lots of time left | 14:06 |
| rick_h__ | I'm also travel weary atm | 14:07 |
| snap-l | You can either ride in front, or in the trunk | 14:07 |
| snap-l | your choice. | 14:07 |
| tjagoda | Is it like Penguicon but with less kilts and no furries? | 14:07 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: if by less kilts you mean only one or two people in utulikilts, then yes. | 14:07 |
| tjagoda | I approve. | 14:08 |
| snap-l | That reminds me, I should get a kilt | 14:08 |
| * rick_h__ is now scared | 14:08 | |
| tjagoda | So you can be "that guy?" | 14:08 |
| snap-l | Apparently I have enough of a Scottish name that I have a tartan pattern | 14:08 |
| snap-l | so I can get a true kilt. | 14:08 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: No, I can't be that guy. | 14:09 |
| brousch | the damn admin is making an entry for something that doesn't exist, and ignore things that do exist | 14:09 |
| snap-l | brousch: And there's the downside for the admin | 14:10 |
| snap-l | Though to be honest, I haven't touched Django in at least three years, if not more | 14:11 |
| brousch | just when i thought i understood it, it does this | 14:11 |
| snap-l | That's when rick_h__ is right | 14:12 |
| snap-l | because now you're debugging someone else's idea of how things should work | 14:12 |
| rick_h__ | because the admin tool is useful for 3 days before you realize you need your own interface to things and you have to ditch it anyway | 14:12 |
| rick_h__ | build an api and write a command line tool, use the database interface, build your own ui | 14:13 |
| rick_h__ | or become an admin tool master adn learn all the hacks to customize it and hope it doesn't break on you in horrible ways | 14:13 |
| snap-l | meditate on these truths | 14:14 |
| brousch | yeah, i thought i would do this quick change for someone | 14:14 |
| brousch | now it's not so quick | 14:14 |
| Raggs | greetings fellow michiganders | 14:17 |
| snap-l | Hi, Raggs | 14:17 |
| Raggs | i am newish to ubuntu | 14:18 |
| snap-l | We all start somewhere. :) | 14:19 |
| Raggs | not to michigan though | 14:19 |
| Raggs | I used ubuntu back in the day though | 14:19 |
| Raggs | not sure i am a unity fan however | 14:19 |
| brousch | come join the great kubuntu migration | 14:20 |
| Raggs | lol, nah | 14:20 |
| rick_h__ | Raggs: try it out on precise, it's getting a lot of love I think | 14:20 |
| Raggs | i wont guarantee i will be on ubuntu in a day | 14:21 |
| Raggs | precise? | 14:21 |
| rick_h__ | Raggs: the in development version of ubuntu | 14:21 |
| Raggs | ahhh, using 11.04 atm | 14:21 |
| rick_h__ | Raggs: yea, just my way of saying it's getting better :) | 14:22 |
| Raggs | need to reboot, brb | 14:22 |
| Raggs | rick_h__, i hope it is getting better | 14:24 |
| Raggs | how do i make ubuntu take over another /home directory? | 14:25 |
| snap-l | Raggs: How do you mean? | 14:33 |
| tjagoda | Hi @ Raggs | 14:35 |
| tjagoda | Also | 14:36 |
| tjagoda | <3 the Kubuntu Migration | 14:36 |
| Raggs | snap-l, i have a /home directory on another partition from a different install | 14:36 |
| Raggs | AND the home in the root of the buntu install | 14:36 |
| tjagoda | I noticed last night that when I use the KDE desktop switcher | 14:38 |
| tjagoda | as the panes slide | 14:38 |
| tjagoda | I can see my old unity desktop underneath | 14:38 |
| tjagoda | wtflinux | 14:38 |
| Raggs | so, why the migration? | 14:40 |
| snap-l | Raggs: Are you looking to use the /home directory from the previous install, or just do a migration? | 14:43 |
| snap-l | also, are you currently able to see the old partition (is it mounted?) | 14:43 |
| Raggs | i want to use it | 14:44 |
| Raggs | and it is mounted | 14:44 |
| snap-l | use as in copy over the old data to the new /home, or replace the /home with the old /home? | 14:46 |
| Raggs | have ubuntu point to the old /home | 14:46 |
| Raggs | sadly i need to get goin | 14:47 |
| Raggs | thanks for the help snap-l | 14:47 |
| krondor | Raggs: change /etc/fstab but make sure you are using the same userID or you'll need to fix perms too | 14:47 |
| Raggs | i shall likely return | 14:47 |
| Raggs | ty krondor | 14:47 |
| krondor | there's probably a better gui-ish way to do that than what I suggested | 14:48 |
| snap-l | krondor: I'm not aware of one | 14:48 |
| snap-l | and frankly, anything like that at the GUI level would scare me | 14:48 |
| krondor | snap-l: ++ | 14:48 |
| rick_h__ | woot! pycon is boss approved | 14:51 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Awesomesauce | 14:52 |
| tjagoda | userID is a dark path | 14:52 |
| krondor | tjagoda: yeah, I meant uid # but I typed it quick because he said he had to go. | 14:53 |
| krondor | aw crap, just realized Mug was last week... | 14:57 |
| rick_h__ | yea, missed it | 14:58 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: how was it? had some extjs love right? | 14:58 |
| brousch | hah, finally got it. i had to add stub admin models for everything i wanted to show up | 15:01 |
| brousch | son of a bitch. bitbucket is broken | 15:04 |
| brousch | there it goes | 15:04 |
| === rick_h__ is now known as rick_h_ | ||
| brousch | now it's a beautiful thing | 15:42 |
| rick_h_ | yay brousch | 15:42 |
| brousch | there's no ! there. i think you are being sarcastic | 15:42 |
| === rick_h_ is now known as rick_h | ||
| rick_h | there , I now own rick_h bwuhahaha | 15:47 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Um, it was OK. :) | 15:49 |
| snap-l | I really have no plans on using extjs, so I was half-paying attention | 15:50 |
| rick_h | cool | 15:50 |
| Blazeix | I actually thought it was really good. validated a lot of my existing prejudices against ext.js :P | 15:50 |
| rick_h | lol, cool | 15:52 |
| rick_h | I always feel bad when I rant against it | 15:52 |
| rick_h | glad to know I can carry on | 15:52 |
| snap-l | rick_h: heh | 15:53 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: Yeah, the parts that I paid attention to were pretty, um... interesting | 15:53 |
| snap-l | it was pretty well presented though | 15:53 |
| snap-l | but I'd rather use something else | 15:53 |
| rick_h | I think my boss is starting to understand me after this past week " you're a complex man of competing fanboisms." | 15:54 |
| snap-l | I think that's oversimplified | 15:55 |
| rick_h | it's a start :) | 15:55 |
| snap-l | You're like python's strong typing | 15:57 |
| snap-l | At compile time, no error message, but during runtime you'd better damn-well have thought it through | 15:58 |
| Wolfger | active chatter today... tjagoda skipping Penguicon? Does this have to do with your shame of failing as con chair? ;-) OLF is fun, you should go. We could carpool. | 16:11 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: say the word and I'll join you in kiltdom. I still have the one I wore for a wedding. | 16:13 |
| brousch | yikes | 16:13 |
| brousch | Wolfger and snap-l in kilts? | 16:13 |
| tjagoda | Nah, tjagoda does not have shame | 16:15 |
| tjagoda | tjagoda chose the best decision for tjagoda | 16:15 |
| Wolfger | Well, hope you manage to make it then | 16:15 |
| tjagoda | tjagoda chooses to shake his head at people small enough to harbor personal hatred for tjagoda | 16:17 |
| Wolfger | I'm big and I harbor... oh, nevermind. | 16:20 |
| Wolfger | :-) | 16:20 |
| Wolfger | I harbor disappointment. I was looking forward to a tjagoda-run Penguicon | 16:21 |
| Wolfger | If anybody could have gotten Wil Wheaton to finally show, it's you. | 16:21 |
| brousch | screw wil wheaton, now you need to get Jim Parsons | 16:23 |
| snap-l | rdiff-backup does not like it when you delete many gigabytes of data | 16:24 |
| snap-l | still chunking away at my backup snapshot from 8am | 16:24 |
| tjagoda | Heard somebody complaining about ubuntu one's web sync interface | 16:32 |
| tjagoda | this makes me sad | 16:32 |
| rick_h | why? | 16:33 |
| tjagoda | Would love to see one canonical service which does not take furious amounts of hate | 16:33 |
| rick_h | heh, good luck! | 16:33 |
| tjagoda | I should apply for the launchpad support positino | 16:33 |
| tjagoda | I bet it pays poop though. | 16:33 |
| brousch | i was watching a pycon video the other day and they dissed on launchpad | 16:33 |
| rick_h | yea? which video? | 16:34 |
| rick_h | I think I'll do an open space or two at pycon | 16:34 |
| rick_h | so curious the hate to address :) | 16:34 |
| tjagoda | i have always found launchpad intimidating | 16:34 |
| brousch | http://blip.tv/djangocon/django-core-dev-panel-5578198 | 16:34 |
| tjagoda | Feel like I need to know a secret handshake to understand its interface | 16:35 |
| brousch | it did not have specific gripes, just mentioned hosting django-core on launchpad as a joke | 16:35 |
| brousch | wait, that was a djangocon video, not pycon | 16:35 |
| rick_h | ty, I'll peek at it | 16:35 |
| rick_h | gotcha | 16:35 |
| brousch | nothing of substance in the diss | 16:35 |
| rick_h | yea, I see. I'm not hosting my stuff there | 16:36 |
| brousch | but it was the django creator that said it;) | 16:36 |
| rick_h | but I'm working on learning to import from github to setup ppa builds/packages | 16:36 |
| tjagoda | I need Rick_H to build a launchpad interface that doesn't make me feel stupid. =( | 16:36 |
| rick_h | which I think would rock | 16:36 |
| rick_h | tjagoda: yea, it's a giant mess | 16:36 |
| brousch | i am using bibucket because of the free unlimited private git repos | 16:36 |
| rick_h | ugh, bitbucket drives me nuts. They could be so good but just totally seem to fall short | 16:37 |
| rick_h | free isn't sustainable and if that's your only selling point...ugh | 16:37 |
| brousch | free and unlimited | 16:37 |
| brousch | private repos | 16:37 |
| tjagoda | I have always wondered | 16:38 |
| tjagoda | what is launchpad's business model? | 16:38 |
| brousch | i would be paying $12/mo at github for what i have up there now | 16:38 |
| rick_h | brousch: yea, I pay github every month as well | 16:38 |
| tjagoda | launchpad does not make any $$, yes? | 16:38 |
| rick_h | but I know they'll be around, and they keep getting better | 16:38 |
| rick_h | tjagoda: it's complicated :) | 16:38 |
| tjagoda | lol | 16:38 |
| brousch | bitbucket is owned by atlassian now, so they have big money | 16:38 |
| rick_h | brousch: yea, but that doesn't always save things | 16:39 |
| rick_h | see delicious, etc | 16:39 |
| rick_h | google code search...dead... | 16:39 |
| rick_h | lots of companies with $$ don't keep things around | 16:39 |
| rick_h | and the snails pace of bitbucket improvements isn't reassuring | 16:39 |
| brousch | but they just bought it | 16:39 |
| rick_h | right, you're safe for a year or two :) | 16:39 |
| rick_h | I'm just a fan of paying real $$ for crap I use/depend on | 16:40 |
| snap-l | Usually a year before management kicks you all to the curb | 16:40 |
| brousch | i keep waiting for sourceforge to get private repos. i poke dave about it every time i see him | 16:40 |
| snap-l | see: Ohloh | 16:40 |
| rick_h | yea, I stabbed mark on several occasions | 16:40 |
| rick_h | "let me give you $$, I mean really!" | 16:40 |
| brousch | right | 16:40 |
| snap-l | OK, need some Python helo | 16:40 |
| brousch | print('helo') | 16:40 |
| rick_h | launchpad does have a commercial offering that I think we need to do a better job of publishing | 16:40 |
| rick_h | private ppas | 16:41 |
| rick_h | that's pretty sweet imo | 16:41 |
| snap-l | trying to wrap logging so that it's configured and ready to go for another job | 16:41 |
| snap-l | so I'm creating a class, doing some stuff in __init__ with a variable called "log" | 16:41 |
| snap-l | I'd like to return that variable to the calling code, but not sure how to do it | 16:41 |
| rick_h | snap-l: so logging is global across the run of the app | 16:42 |
| snap-l | Yeah | 16:42 |
| Wolfger | brousch: omg... if we could get Evil Wil Wheaton and Sheldon at the same con, that would be awesome. :-D | 16:42 |
| snap-l | I'm taking advantage of that. ;) | 16:42 |
| rick_h | you want an init_logging to defind all the settings | 16:42 |
| rick_h | and just call that before you start to bootstrap the config for the handlers/levels/etc | 16:42 |
| rick_h | just make sure they share a namespace | 16:42 |
| snap-l | so should it just be a module then, instead of a class? | 16:42 |
| tjagoda | wolfger: I will also not be at Fusion | 16:43 |
| rick_h | snap-l: yea, even a function or something | 16:43 |
| rick_h | so if you've got a process maybe it has module.utils | 16:43 |
| rick_h | and __init__.py just runs utils.setup_logger() | 16:43 |
| rick_h | I'd have to see how your code is set up to really suggest | 16:44 |
| Wolfger | tjagoda: Yeah, I wasn't even aware of Fusion until last weekend. Way too late to make effective plans to be there | 16:44 |
| brousch | what is fusion? | 16:45 |
| tjagoda | Science Fiction convention | 16:46 |
| tjagoda | Lots of kilts | 16:46 |
| Wolfger | ConFusion | 16:46 |
| Wolfger | There's a BSD panel, but other than that I didn't see much tech | 16:47 |
| tjagoda | And its almost 100% probably the same BSD panel | 16:48 |
| tjagoda | every year | 16:48 |
| tjagoda | that happens at penguicon | 16:48 |
| Wolfger | Those guys are dedicated... | 16:48 |
| tjagoda | Presented by a very skinny guy and a very fat man | 16:48 |
| tjagoda | With comic contrast | 16:48 |
| * Wolfger ponders the difference between "a very skinny guy and a very fat man" and "a very skinny man and a very fat guy" | 16:50 | |
| tjagoda | hm | 16:50 |
| tjagoda | What are the odds of this not being a low paying like $30k per year job? https://tbe.taleo.net/NA3/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=404 | 16:54 |
| brousch | i heard everyone at canonical makes 6 figures | 16:57 |
| tjagoda | I heard that this guy's sarcastic | 16:58 |
| rick_h | brousch: crap, I knew I didn't ask for enough | 16:59 |
| rick_h | tjagoda: low | 16:59 |
| rick_h | tjagoda: very low odds | 16:59 |
| tjagoda | That is saddening, as it sounded fun | 17:00 |
| rick_h | why is it saddening? | 17:00 |
| rick_h | oh sorry, I miread you | 17:00 |
| rick_h | the odds are very low it's a low paying jo | 17:00 |
| rick_h | job | 17:01 |
| tjagoda | ohh | 17:01 |
| rick_h | bah, multitasking will be the death of me | 17:01 |
| tjagoda | brousch was right | 17:01 |
| tjagoda | they all DO make 6 figures. | 17:01 |
| rick_h | I didn't say that one lol | 17:01 |
| tjagoda | except jcastro, who actually has to pay them to work there | 17:01 |
| snap-l | Oh, there's going to be a paddling with ADP | 17:03 |
| rick_h | snap-l: so glad you worked over that time off now? | 17:03 |
| rick_h | "get a gun..." | 17:04 |
| snap-l | WEll, considering I don't exist in ADP's system as far as working time and all... | 17:04 |
| rick_h | good grief...down to 124 tickets to process *sigh* | 17:04 |
| Wolfger | 30k is better than burger flipping... | 17:06 |
| Wolfger | also depends on the hours you work. I mean, 30k for 80 hours a week is, well, burger flipping. 30k for 20 hours a week? Sign me up! | 17:07 |
| snap-l | Gah | 17:16 |
| snap-l | Glad I didn't buy a boat. | 17:16 |
| rick_h | Blazeix: http://walmartlabs.github.com/thorax/ | 17:19 |
| rick_h | looks like some good stuff coming from Dion and company | 17:20 |
| rick_h | I still find it strange to see cool things going on under the wal-mart name | 17:20 |
| Blazeix | ooh, nice | 17:20 |
| Blazeix | i've been meaning to play around with ember.js, but this might jump ahead in the queue | 17:20 |
| rick_h | http://walmartlabs.github.com/lumbar/ is interesting | 17:20 |
| rick_h | yea, the only thing with ember is the perf and that it's coming out of sproutcore so nervous how much it's made to fit there | 17:21 |
| greg-g | I'm officially working a half-day today | 17:27 |
| greg-g | crazy | 17:27 |
| greg-g | it's been since Dec 22nd | 17:27 |
| === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro | ||
| rick_h | greg-g: :) | 17:32 |
| rick_h | greg-g: how's parenthood treating you? | 17:32 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Like a baby treats a diaper. ;) | 17:33 |
| snap-l | Sun Java6 folks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes/Java6Transition | 17:37 |
| greg-g | snap-l: very close :) | 17:43 |
| greg-g | last night was rough, of course, being the night before my first day back | 17:43 |
| greg-g | but, I can't complain, it is much worse for Carrie than I | 17:43 |
| snap-l | http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596158071.do <- 50% off | 18:05 |
| brousch | you lucky galaxy nexus owners all get your extended batteries? http://www.droid-life.com/2012/01/17/galaxy-nexus-extended-battery-back-in-stock-at-verizon-still-50-off/ | 18:19 |
| rick_h | ooh, nice find brousch | 18:26 |
| rick_h | was thinking of getting one but not sure 300mha is worth $35 | 18:26 |
| rick_h | $25 works for me | 18:26 |
| rick_h | Blazeix ^^ | 18:27 |
| rick_h | waldo isn't on, who else had a verizon one? | 18:27 |
| Wolfger | http://www.appbrain.com/app/ataris-greatest-hits/com.atari.mobile.greatesthits | 18:38 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: ^^ for all your retro gaming needs | 18:39 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: You have no idea how many times I've bought Atari's catalog. ;) | 18:39 |
| rick_h | starting precise upgrade on my desktop wheeee | 18:40 |
| greg-g | rick_h: wow, I'm scared of the X and kernel changes that are still coming down the pipeline | 18:41 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: I have the DS versions of all of those games, Gamecube, Dreamcast, and Saturn versions of the arcade games | 18:41 |
| rick_h | greg-g: I'm a bit floored at the work they're doing to make this upgrade smooth and such so taking the plunge | 18:41 |
| Wolfger | it's free for Android and iPhone | 18:41 |
| snap-l | not to mention the Jakks Pacific console versions of the 2600 games | 18:41 |
| greg-g | rick_h: cool | 18:42 |
| rick_h | greg-g: and I know a dozen guys on it already so figured it's a second machine why not :) | 18:42 |
| greg-g | heh | 18:42 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: AND 2600 versions of all of those games. ;) | 18:42 |
| Wolfger | you are the reason Atari's still in business? | 18:42 |
| snap-l | Oh, and PC versions too | 18:42 |
| snap-l | No, INfogrames was the reason. ;) | 18:43 |
| snap-l | which then became part of Hasbro | 18:43 |
| Wolfger | They are planning to release a new version of | 18:43 |
| Wolfger | Asteroids, "Asteroids: Gunner" | 18:43 |
| snap-l | I wish them success | 18:43 |
| snap-l | I'm sure it'll be just as good as the re-releases of Frogger and Q*Bert. :-P | 18:44 |
| snap-l | Actually, Q*bert's re-release wasn't too bad | 18:44 |
| snap-l | Breakout was pretty pathetic as well | 18:44 |
| Wolfger | Oh, come on... Every version of breakout ever made has been awesome | 18:46 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: Next time I find a copy, it's yours. :) | 18:48 |
| rick_h | note to self, look up bzr lightweight checkouts...wtf... | 18:51 |
| Wolfger | can't convince Canonical to go with git? ;-) | 18:53 |
| brousch | yeah, cmon rick_h, convert them to git | 18:55 |
| Wolfger | I hate users | 18:56 |
| brousch | i'm sure it's reciprocal | 18:58 |
| greg-g | zing! | 18:59 |
| snap-l | OK, who else is weirded out whenever they see an e-mail address with a couple's name as the From: | 19:09 |
| snap-l | like "Alice and Bob" | 19:09 |
| snap-l | I mean, JoDee and I share a lot of things, but e-mail ain't one of them | 19:09 |
| jrwren | oh yeah, i forgot that rick_h would be a BZR guy now instead of a git guy. | 19:10 |
| brousch | snap-l: old people do that | 19:10 |
| rick_h | jrwren: yea, ugh..that is all | 19:11 |
| rick_h | jrwren: but I see your boss ranting on git, almost replied | 19:11 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I don't understand the git hate | 19:12 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: yeah, that weirds me out too | 19:12 |
| jrwren | which boss? | 19:12 |
| jrwren | dianne mostly hates Hg | 19:12 |
| greg-g | snap-l: I've seen that as a common recommendation by a lot of, how to say it, very active christian groups | 19:12 |
| rick_h | jrwren: the other one | 19:12 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Really? | 19:12 |
| snap-l | Do they recommend opening each other's mail too? | 19:12 |
| jrwren | Ah... I think Bill is just experiencing the pain of learning Git from Hg. Soon he will see the benefits and hate on Hg | 19:12 |
| greg-g | yeah, a "no secrets" thing that makes you a better couple, or somesuch | 19:12 |
| snap-l | because that weirds me out too | 19:12 |
| rick_h | jrwren: ah ok then | 19:12 |
| rick_h | :) | 19:12 |
| snap-l | greg-g: There's a better way to implement that. :) | 19:13 |
| jrwren | ++ I dislike family emails, but consider an old aunt and uncle or grandparents. email is not different than snail mail and they share teh same address for that too | 19:13 |
| rick_h | snap-l: it comes from people using the provider for accounts | 19:13 |
| rick_h | they setup a single email address and people just share them | 19:13 |
| rick_h | my in-laws do that | 19:13 |
| rick_h | usually one person or the other tends to manage email anyway | 19:14 |
| brousch | it weirds me out when i see 2 people sharing a phone number | 19:14 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Yeah, but I feel it's liek sharing underwear | 19:14 |
| jrwren | that presumes a lot about gods will and better coupling. I read that bible thing and I didn't get anything out of it that says I can't have an individual identity post marriage | 19:14 |
| snap-l | maybe you can do it, but it weirds me out. | 19:14 |
| jrwren | if anything, I should get a few more wives if I'm living biblically | 19:14 |
| Wolfger | brousch: that's only uncommon with cell phones | 19:14 |
| rick_h | upgrade complete, time to see how a reboot treats me...wish me luck | 19:14 |
| Wolfger | if my parents had a shared e-mail address, I'd completely understand. I know my dad will never ever use a computer voluntarily | 19:15 |
| brousch | Wolfger: you mean some people don't have mobile phones?! | 19:16 |
| greg-g | rick_h: good luck, dear adventurer | 19:16 |
| snap-l | jrwren: That's the old testament version of God. ;) | 19:16 |
| snap-l | we're using God 2.0 now | 19:16 |
| Wolfger | but a friend of mine got married and they both were on the net individually, but after marriage they had a shared e-mail. Ew. | 19:16 |
| rick_h | 2.0? are you kidding. There's enough revisions there to put MS to shame | 19:17 |
| snap-l | rick_h: It's like Web 2.0 | 19:17 |
| Wolfger | rick_h++ | 19:17 |
| snap-l | We're using APIs and AJAX | 19:17 |
| brousch | God ME | 19:17 |
| snap-l | Jesus XML. :) | 19:17 |
| rick_h | woot, boots and logs in | 19:18 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: AJAX (asynchronous Jesus and XML) | 19:18 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: Gives new meaning to WWJD. | 19:19 |
| snap-l | (That joke will so totally fall apart when Tim O'Reilly declares Web 3.0) | 19:20 |
| brousch | i declare mobile is web3.0 | 19:21 |
| rick_h | heh, first time I've noticed a "sync between computers" in the software center | 19:22 |
| rick_h | kind of cool | 19:22 |
| snap-l | Yeah, that's new for 12.04 | 19:22 |
| * snap-l might have to bring up a VM for 12.04 | 19:24 | |
| snap-l | has it hit alpha yet? | 19:24 |
| Wolfger | long time ago | 19:24 |
| rick_h | yea, I think alpha2 is around the corner? | 19:25 |
| Wolfger | only 100 days left til release, man | 19:25 |
| snap-l | Shit, I'm not paying any attention | 19:25 |
| greg-g | Ubu-what? | 19:25 |
| Wolfger | LOL | 19:25 |
| Wolfger | it's Kubu-what, aren't you paying attention? | 19:25 |
| Wolfger | all the cool kids switched to Kubuntu | 19:25 |
| greg-g | oh right | 19:25 |
| Wolfger | The Canonical employees, of course, still shun the blue-headed step child, and snap-l's a lamer, so... yeah, all the cool kids are using it. :-) | 19:27 |
| brousch | Wolfger++ | 19:27 |
| snap-l | Pthhhpt | 19:29 |
| rick_h | oh come on, like this room was friendly to the kde folks going back anywhere in our history :P | 19:29 |
| rick_h | #ubuntu-us-mi: making fun of kde before it was cool to make fun of kde | 19:30 |
| rick_h | if I recall...wasn't Wolfger the one that was all "I can't present kde to MUG...it sucks?!" | 19:30 |
| Wolfger | KDE4 | 19:30 |
| rick_h | ...one year later..."I can't present KDE to MUG..." | 19:30 |
| snap-l | I thnk wolfger just didn't want to present at MUG | 19:30 |
| rick_h | now all of a sudden the world is full of haters | 19:30 |
| Wolfger | KDE4 sucked for a long time. Right up until 11.10, really | 19:31 |
| snap-l | I think we just need to get Wolfger out to MUG | 19:31 |
| Wolfger | But you notice I keep going back and trying it... | 19:31 |
| rick_h | Wolfger: and the definition of insanity is? | 19:31 |
| Wolfger | Heh | 19:32 |
| rick_h | now, any other canonical bashes we want to start up today? :P | 19:32 |
| brousch | the orange and purple. come on. ew | 19:33 |
| Wolfger | and as for "now all of a sudden the world is full of haters", I direct you to this thing called "the internet".... wtf do you mean "all of a sudden"? | 19:33 |
| Wolfger | Hey, anything on the calendar for next Monday or Tuesday, *UG-wise? | 19:34 |
| rick_h | nope | 19:35 |
| brousch | yes. grwebdev | 19:35 |
| rick_h | I can't get him across town for a meeting and you think he's going to hit up GR? | 19:35 |
| Wolfger | Yeah, that'll never happen | 19:36 |
| brousch | jquery and javascript | 19:36 |
| brousch | you know you love it | 19:36 |
| rick_h | booooo! | 19:36 |
| Wolfger | If there was something local-ish, I'd have a higher-than-normal inclination to attend something next Monday or Tuesday is all. Oh well. | 19:36 |
| rick_h | last tues was MUG | 19:37 |
| rick_h | put it on your calendar :) | 19:37 |
| Wolfger | Let me just hop in the Delorean... | 19:37 |
| rick_h | it comes back around every month | 19:37 |
| Wolfger | last Tuesday does? | 19:37 |
| Wolfger | Hmm. "Next Meeting – Tuesday, January 10th, 2012". So... that was the last one, then? ;-) | 19:39 |
| rick_h | second_tuesdays = [second_tues(month) for month in months)].pop() | 19:39 |
| Wolfger | Cool. Added "Michigan Tech Groups" calendar to my Gcal. | 19:42 |
| Wolfger | Hmm. Ann Arbor CHC is in Ann Arbor. Detroit CHC is not in Detroit. :-p | 19:43 |
| snap-l | Next MUG meeting is on Feb 14th | 19:45 |
| snap-l | that's the one where we elect the board | 19:45 |
| snap-l | also is JoDee's birthday, so I'll be skipping | 19:45 |
| Wolfger | elect snap-l | 19:46 |
| snap-l | Please do. I'm already on the board | 19:46 |
| snap-l | and would love another year on the board. | 19:46 |
| Wolfger | spoilsport | 19:46 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: ;) | 19:46 |
| Wolfger | so Jo-Dee's birthday is Valentine's Day? You are so lucky. | 19:48 |
| snap-l | Yep. :) | 19:48 |
| Wolfger | one less potential catastrophe of poor memory | 19:48 |
| snap-l | I use bdayd, so I generally have a week lead-time | 19:48 |
| Wolfger | also, that meeting being on Valentine's Day, I probably will not be there | 19:48 |
| brousch | bah, come on, bring your wives to the meeting | 19:59 |
| rick_h | greg-g: where are you at out in CA land? | 20:11 |
| jrwren | SF | 20:12 |
| jrwren | hippie mecca | 20:12 |
| rick_h | hmm, direct to san jose with layovers or fly non stop to SF and commute down to San jose. greg-g anything I should know that everyone out there already knows? | 20:15 |
| Blazeix | rick_h: regarding Olark vs Snapengage... the only thing i've got is that they both sound like harry potter characters. | 20:48 |
| greg-g | commuting from SF to SJ isn't the easiest | 20:49 |
| rick_h | Blazeix: lol, yea I know some of the guys at olark so I RT it hoping they see it can compare | 20:50 |
| rick_h | never heard of snapengage | 20:50 |
| rick_h | greg-g: yea? | 20:50 |
| greg-g | caltrain takes about an hour | 20:50 |
| rick_h | yea, I figure even if it takes 2hr to get down there and through VTA it's shorter than a layover in dallas and such | 20:51 |
| rick_h | so went with straight from DTW to SF and will try to train/bus it to the convention center | 20:51 |
| brousch | TRAIN | 20:53 |
| rick_h | well train from SFO and bus once in SJ | 20:54 |
| rick_h | two stage travel | 20:54 |
| greg-g | right right | 20:56 |
| rick_h | but I'm not putting my life at risk or anything right? :) | 20:56 |
| rick_h | and no secret tunnel I should know about? | 20:56 |
| greg-g | train from SFO to SJ isn't bad. You'll do: 1) SFO to BART. 2) BART to Millbrae stop. 3) Transfer to Caltrain. 4) Caltrain to SJ. 5) Transfer to bus to hotel, maybe shuttle if the hotel is good? | 20:56 |
| greg-g | nope, pretty safe/straight-forward | 20:57 |
| rick_h | no shuttle | 20:59 |
| brousch | sheldon cooper approved | 20:59 |
| rick_h | so the page says locals suggest It has been suggested by locals that from SFO you can take CalTrain to San Jose and then get on VTA. | 20:59 |
| rick_h | I assumed caltrain was near SFO | 21:00 |
| rick_h | oh well, adventure for me | 21:00 |
| rick_h | greg-g: so have to meet for lunch or something while I'm over | 21:00 |
| brousch | all they serve in SF is rice-a-roni and organic hormone-free bamboo shoots | 21:01 |
| rick_h | oh right, coffee | 21:02 |
| greg-g | rick_h: Caltrain is one BART stop from SFO | 21:23 |
| tjagoda | Resizing partions | 22:13 |
| tjagoda | so painfully slow | 22:13 |
| snap-l | yes | 22:29 |
| tjagoda | I was shocked when dual displays just worked | 22:32 |
| tjagoda | in Kubuntu | 22:32 |
| tjagoda | I was expecting some horrible driver pain or something | 22:32 |
| snap-l | Also my lovely rdiffbackup is still running | 22:34 |
| snap-l | since 8am | 22:34 |
| snap-l | This is not the way of it | 22:34 |
| tjagoda | wow | 22:38 |
| tjagoda | The backup service thats builtin with ubuntu 1 | 22:38 |
| tjagoda | always broke for me in vanilla butu | 22:38 |
| tjagoda | Dont know why, it just randomly failed a lot | 22:38 |
| cpncook | Hello | 22:47 |
| cpncook | http://i.imgur.com/AQLAh.jpg | 22:48 |
| cpncook | Negaunee Iron formation as Jaspet Knob | 22:48 |
| cpncook | near Ishpeming | 22:48 |
| cpncook | Jasper Knob* | 22:48 |
| tjagoda | Nice | 23:16 |
| brousch | greg-g: your beard is getting out of control. you need to tame that thing! http://www.flickr.com/photos/grggrssmr/6702713665/ | 23:35 |
| Raggs | evening gents | 23:36 |
| rick_h | lol, the bears has gone California | 23:37 |
| greg-g | brousch: just trimmed it last night :) | 23:37 |
| greg-g | to a setting of 5 on my beard trimmer | 23:37 |
| brousch | good idea | 23:38 |
| Raggs | brousch, so what about the kubuntu migration? | 23:41 |
| brousch | hop on the bandwagon. we're dying our hair blue | 23:41 |
| Raggs | ummm, we dont want a 40 something yo guy with blue hair | 23:42 |
| brousch | but seriously, kubuntu is quite nice | 23:43 |
| Raggs | i am upgrading my ubuntu atm | 23:43 |
| brousch | you can install them side by side and switch between them at login | 23:44 |
| brousch | you can also install gnome-shell | 23:44 |
| Raggs | end up with a bunch of duplicate apps dont you? | 23:44 |
| rick_h | precise is feeling pretty good. Feels snappier | 23:44 |
| brousch | well you get apps do similar things | 23:45 |
| Raggs | that is what i meant | 23:45 |
| brousch | but you get to try out each environment on the same computer | 23:45 |
| brousch | i did that for while and finally settled on kubuntu. then i wiped it all and just installed kubuntu | 23:46 |
| Raggs | i have used both, though not in buntu | 23:46 |
| Raggs | in fstab if i change the home dir to a different partition what happens with the home files on the original partition? | 23:52 |
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