[01:14] jcastro_: Blazeix http://www.shopandroid.com/samsung-2100mah-extended-battery-w-door/8A37A9667.htm [01:14] now in stock [01:41] Saw a T520 today with the extended battery [01:41] Holy shit, that's a lot of battery [01:42] and the owner was saying "Well, it's an i7, so I hope I get 3-4 hours of battery with it" [01:42] I'd be pissed if that was only as much as I got with it. [01:45] ouch [01:46] yea, guess it depends on how you run it [01:47] rick_h__: Your video is not visible to mere mortals [01:47] snap-l: yea sorry [01:47] oh well, it'll be public soon enough [01:48] and everyone can report bugs like mad [01:48] Oh we will === Blazeix is now known as Blazeix_ [11:44] Grrrrrrrrrrrr [11:45] Still have not received a check from $LASTJOB [12:04] ruh roh [12:16] Yep, so I get the joy of calling them between the hours of 8:30 and 5:30 [12:20] My hope is that someone didn't tell me (in the sprawling exit interview checklist) that the last check would be mailed [12:20] ah, maybe I guess [12:20] morning [12:23] had a great grpug meeting last night [12:23] awesome [12:23] found out that wtf code from the other day was written by students, so that explains a lot [12:24] gotcha [12:24] so they really didn't know what they were doing. That would explain things. [12:24] met 2 more django/python programmers [12:25] well, begenning django and python [12:25] snap-l: yeah, so their code ended up looking like a CS assignment [12:27] brousch: Go with what you know. :) [12:27] met a lot of kids (20-25) in the local startup thing [12:27] very energetic, but they live on $500-$1000/mo [12:27] crazy [12:27] yea, statup life is a bit nuts [12:28] if it was 10yrs a ago though...then again I didn't know then what I know now so that is just scary [12:29] i never had the moxie for that [12:30] i think we got the food circles guy heading in the right direction with his code [12:33] heh, i opened rick_h__'s video on youtube in another tab. when i switched back i was wondering where that giant vim window had come from because i didn't remember opening any code today [12:33] :) [12:40] http://openmetalcast.com/2012/01/17/stop-sopa-pipa/ [12:41] Testing out the plugin === Blazeix_ is now known as Blazeix [12:50] ah, the joys of the great expense report...in HUF currency wheeee [12:51] Oh, that's gotta be fun [12:51] I'm surprised they don't just give you all AmEx cards and call it a day. :) [12:52] QoTD: Half off ALL PANTS! [12:52] (Banana Republic) [13:00] snap-l: +1 on the concept of a Lovecraftian gwibbering idiot... [13:13] good grief, AMD rantings on the interwebs .../me hides [13:14] uh-oh [13:14] should I have sold my AMD stock already? [13:14] sorry, wrong AMD [13:14] JS AMD [13:14] http://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/oka38/amd_is_not_the_answer/ [13:15] and of course the replies coming back, it's rant worthy material for me :) [13:15] * Wolfger breathes a sigh of relief [13:36] so much fog toady [13:36] today* [13:36] yea, going to be a crummy day it seems [13:36] so much for sneaking in another bike ride [13:38] This is a bad day to have gotten little sleep [13:38] Weather is conspiring against me [13:51] rick_h__: It's the internet; if we can't come up with something to bitch about, we'll explode. [13:52] rick_h__: Let me guess which comments set you off: [13:52] pyohio, olf, what am I missing I should be putting on the calendar? [13:52] http://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/oka38/amd_is_not_the_answer/c3hzvsz [13:52] Penguicon [13:52] PyCon? [13:52] yea, I think Pycon is a go [13:52] getting final mgr approval today hopefully [13:52] w00t [13:52] so just checking what else I should mark up on there [13:53] Penguicon. ;) [13:53] yea...feel like I'm missing something...but can't put my finger on it [13:53] Dev Days detroit, but not sure when that's happening [13:53] yea, checked that and don't see any future news on there [13:58] rick_h__ no longer embraces penguicon [13:58] Not enough tech? [13:58] tjagoda: It's a fight to get him to show up one day. [13:59] personal goal is to get him to show up all three days, and get a hotel room [13:59] * snap-l also doesn't divulge his secret plan to get rick_h__ to do karaoke [13:59] scary times [14:00] I dunno if I will be at this Penguicon [14:00] Right now there is some work travel scheduled in that timeframe [14:00] .me shakes his fist at django admin [14:01] brousch: ok, ready...set...here I go! ... [14:02] rick_h__: Destination? [14:02] ranting on django admin and how it's a complete "fake" feature that I despise to no end [14:02] * tjagoda has never been to an OLF [14:02] tjagoda: OLF is fun [14:03] tjagoda: really? it's not bad. [14:03] rick_h__: I'm of two minds for django admin [14:03] I regret when I do go and I regret when I don't go so I'm not sure what I think any more [14:03] on the one hand, it's nice to get something up and running quickly. [14:03] rick_h both hates and loves people [14:03] rick_h__: This last year wasn't so bad, was it? [14:04] I think that's the split. I like the people, I don't care for most of the talks/material [14:04] I mean, we did learn a new term for shrimp [14:04] snap-l: yea, it was ok, but I didn't see a single talk really [14:04] "sea bugs" [14:04] I still use sea bugs [14:04] rick_h__: Neither did I, and I still had a blast. [14:04] to this day, we're having sea bugs for dinner thurs actually [14:04] snap-l: yea, why I say a bit torn [14:05] I think of OLF as permission to let out my inner freetard. ;) [14:05] this year a couple of people have moved out west so not sure who will be there to hang out with as much [14:05] we'll see I guess. I'm not sure if I'll do olf this year [14:06] but if you've never gone, I'd say you should get down there tjagoda [14:06] i have not been to olf [14:06] rick_h__: here we go again [14:06] brousch: You should come too [14:06] snap-l: I think I want to trade conference value with hack time and social time [14:06] I got some social time, but tethered to the booth limited hack time [14:06] so when I walk away with how did the trip go it's a hit/miss [14:06] rick_h__: Don't make me get the duck tape [14:06] lol [14:06] it's in sept, lots of time left [14:07] I'm also travel weary atm [14:07] You can either ride in front, or in the trunk [14:07] your choice. [14:07] Is it like Penguicon but with less kilts and no furries? [14:07] tjagoda: if by less kilts you mean only one or two people in utulikilts, then yes. [14:08] I approve. [14:08] That reminds me, I should get a kilt [14:08] * rick_h__ is now scared [14:08] So you can be "that guy?" [14:08] Apparently I have enough of a Scottish name that I have a tartan pattern [14:08] so I can get a true kilt. [14:09] tjagoda: No, I can't be that guy. [14:09] the damn admin is making an entry for something that doesn't exist, and ignore things that do exist [14:10] brousch: And there's the downside for the admin [14:11] Though to be honest, I haven't touched Django in at least three years, if not more [14:11] just when i thought i understood it, it does this [14:12] That's when rick_h__ is right [14:12] because now you're debugging someone else's idea of how things should work [14:12] because the admin tool is useful for 3 days before you realize you need your own interface to things and you have to ditch it anyway [14:13] build an api and write a command line tool, use the database interface, build your own ui [14:13] or become an admin tool master adn learn all the hacks to customize it and hope it doesn't break on you in horrible ways [14:14] meditate on these truths [14:14] yeah, i thought i would do this quick change for someone [14:14] now it's not so quick [14:17] greetings fellow michiganders [14:17] Hi, Raggs [14:18] i am newish to ubuntu [14:19] We all start somewhere. :) [14:19] not to michigan though [14:19] I used ubuntu back in the day though [14:19] not sure i am a unity fan however [14:20] come join the great kubuntu migration [14:20] lol, nah [14:20] Raggs: try it out on precise, it's getting a lot of love I think [14:21] i wont guarantee i will be on ubuntu in a day [14:21] precise? [14:21] Raggs: the in development version of ubuntu [14:21] ahhh, using 11.04 atm [14:22] Raggs: yea, just my way of saying it's getting better :) [14:22] need to reboot, brb [14:24] rick_h__, i hope it is getting better [14:25] how do i make ubuntu take over another /home directory? [14:33] Raggs: How do you mean? [14:35] Hi @ Raggs [14:36] Also [14:36] <3 the Kubuntu Migration [14:36] snap-l, i have a /home directory on another partition from a different install [14:36] AND the home in the root of the buntu install [14:38] I noticed last night that when I use the KDE desktop switcher [14:38] as the panes slide [14:38] I can see my old unity desktop underneath [14:38] wtflinux [14:40] so, why the migration? [14:43] Raggs: Are you looking to use the /home directory from the previous install, or just do a migration? [14:43] also, are you currently able to see the old partition (is it mounted?) [14:44] i want to use it [14:44] and it is mounted [14:46] use as in copy over the old data to the new /home, or replace the /home with the old /home? [14:46] have ubuntu point to the old /home [14:47] sadly i need to get goin [14:47] thanks for the help snap-l [14:47] Raggs: change /etc/fstab but make sure you are using the same userID or you'll need to fix perms too [14:47] i shall likely return [14:47] ty krondor [14:48] there's probably a better gui-ish way to do that than what I suggested [14:48] krondor: I'm not aware of one [14:48] and frankly, anything like that at the GUI level would scare me [14:48] snap-l: ++ [14:51] woot! pycon is boss approved [14:52] rick_h__: Awesomesauce [14:52] userID is a dark path [14:53] tjagoda: yeah, I meant uid # but I typed it quick because he said he had to go. [14:57] aw crap, just realized Mug was last week... [14:58] yea, missed it [14:58] snap-l: how was it? had some extjs love right? [15:01] hah, finally got it. i had to add stub admin models for everything i wanted to show up [15:04] son of a bitch. bitbucket is broken [15:04] there it goes === rick_h__ is now known as rick_h_ [15:42] now it's a beautiful thing [15:42] yay brousch [15:42] there's no ! there. i think you are being sarcastic === rick_h_ is now known as rick_h [15:47] there , I now own rick_h bwuhahaha [15:49] rick_h: Um, it was OK. :) [15:50] I really have no plans on using extjs, so I was half-paying attention [15:50] cool [15:50] I actually thought it was really good. validated a lot of my existing prejudices against ext.js :P [15:52] lol, cool [15:52] I always feel bad when I rant against it [15:52] glad to know I can carry on [15:53] rick_h: heh [15:53] Blazeix: Yeah, the parts that I paid attention to were pretty, um... interesting [15:53] it was pretty well presented though [15:53] but I'd rather use something else [15:54] I think my boss is starting to understand me after this past week " you're a complex man of competing fanboisms." [15:55] I think that's oversimplified [15:55] it's a start :) [15:57] You're like python's strong typing [15:58] At compile time, no error message, but during runtime you'd better damn-well have thought it through [16:11] active chatter today... tjagoda skipping Penguicon? Does this have to do with your shame of failing as con chair? ;-) OLF is fun, you should go. We could carpool. [16:13] snap-l: say the word and I'll join you in kiltdom. I still have the one I wore for a wedding. [16:13] yikes [16:13] Wolfger and snap-l in kilts? [16:15] Nah, tjagoda does not have shame [16:15] tjagoda chose the best decision for tjagoda [16:15] Well, hope you manage to make it then [16:17] tjagoda chooses to shake his head at people small enough to harbor personal hatred for tjagoda [16:20] I'm big and I harbor... oh, nevermind. [16:20] :-) [16:21] I harbor disappointment. I was looking forward to a tjagoda-run Penguicon [16:21] If anybody could have gotten Wil Wheaton to finally show, it's you. [16:23] screw wil wheaton, now you need to get Jim Parsons [16:24] rdiff-backup does not like it when you delete many gigabytes of data [16:24] still chunking away at my backup snapshot from 8am [16:32] Heard somebody complaining about ubuntu one's web sync interface [16:32] this makes me sad [16:33] why? [16:33] Would love to see one canonical service which does not take furious amounts of hate [16:33] heh, good luck! [16:33] I should apply for the launchpad support positino [16:33] I bet it pays poop though. [16:33] i was watching a pycon video the other day and they dissed on launchpad [16:34] yea? which video? [16:34] I think I'll do an open space or two at pycon [16:34] so curious the hate to address :) [16:34] i have always found launchpad intimidating [16:34] http://blip.tv/djangocon/django-core-dev-panel-5578198 [16:35] Feel like I need to know a secret handshake to understand its interface [16:35] it did not have specific gripes, just mentioned hosting django-core on launchpad as a joke [16:35] wait, that was a djangocon video, not pycon [16:35] ty, I'll peek at it [16:35] gotcha [16:35] nothing of substance in the diss [16:36] yea, I see. I'm not hosting my stuff there [16:36] but it was the django creator that said it;) [16:36] but I'm working on learning to import from github to setup ppa builds/packages [16:36] I need Rick_H to build a launchpad interface that doesn't make me feel stupid. =( [16:36] which I think would rock [16:36] tjagoda: yea, it's a giant mess [16:36] i am using bibucket because of the free unlimited private git repos [16:37] ugh, bitbucket drives me nuts. They could be so good but just totally seem to fall short [16:37] free isn't sustainable and if that's your only selling point...ugh [16:37] free and unlimited [16:37] private repos [16:38] I have always wondered [16:38] what is launchpad's business model? [16:38] i would be paying $12/mo at github for what i have up there now [16:38] brousch: yea, I pay github every month as well [16:38] launchpad does not make any $$, yes? [16:38] but I know they'll be around, and they keep getting better [16:38] tjagoda: it's complicated :) [16:38] lol [16:38] bitbucket is owned by atlassian now, so they have big money [16:39] brousch: yea, but that doesn't always save things [16:39] see delicious, etc [16:39] google code search...dead... [16:39] lots of companies with $$ don't keep things around [16:39] and the snails pace of bitbucket improvements isn't reassuring [16:39] but they just bought it [16:39] right, you're safe for a year or two :) [16:40] I'm just a fan of paying real $$ for crap I use/depend on [16:40] Usually a year before management kicks you all to the curb [16:40] i keep waiting for sourceforge to get private repos. i poke dave about it every time i see him [16:40] see: Ohloh [16:40] yea, I stabbed mark on several occasions [16:40] "let me give you $$, I mean really!" [16:40] right [16:40] OK, need some Python helo [16:40] print('helo') [16:40] launchpad does have a commercial offering that I think we need to do a better job of publishing [16:41] private ppas [16:41] that's pretty sweet imo [16:41] trying to wrap logging so that it's configured and ready to go for another job [16:41] so I'm creating a class, doing some stuff in __init__ with a variable called "log" [16:41] I'd like to return that variable to the calling code, but not sure how to do it [16:42] snap-l: so logging is global across the run of the app [16:42] Yeah [16:42] brousch: omg... if we could get Evil Wil Wheaton and Sheldon at the same con, that would be awesome. :-D [16:42] I'm taking advantage of that. ;) [16:42] you want an init_logging to defind all the settings [16:42] and just call that before you start to bootstrap the config for the handlers/levels/etc [16:42] just make sure they share a namespace [16:42] so should it just be a module then, instead of a class? [16:43] wolfger: I will also not be at Fusion [16:43] snap-l: yea, even a function or something [16:43] so if you've got a process maybe it has module.utils [16:43] and __init__.py just runs utils.setup_logger() [16:44] I'd have to see how your code is set up to really suggest [16:44] tjagoda: Yeah, I wasn't even aware of Fusion until last weekend. Way too late to make effective plans to be there [16:45] what is fusion? [16:46] Science Fiction convention [16:46] Lots of kilts [16:46] ConFusion [16:47] There's a BSD panel, but other than that I didn't see much tech [16:48] And its almost 100% probably the same BSD panel [16:48] every year [16:48] that happens at penguicon [16:48] Those guys are dedicated... [16:48] Presented by a very skinny guy and a very fat man [16:48] With comic contrast [16:50] * Wolfger ponders the difference between "a very skinny guy and a very fat man" and "a very skinny man and a very fat guy" [16:50] hm [16:54] What are the odds of this not being a low paying like $30k per year job? https://tbe.taleo.net/NA3/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=404 [16:57] i heard everyone at canonical makes 6 figures [16:58] I heard that this guy's sarcastic [16:59] brousch: crap, I knew I didn't ask for enough [16:59] tjagoda: low [16:59] tjagoda: very low odds [17:00] That is saddening, as it sounded fun [17:00] why is it saddening? [17:00] oh sorry, I miread you [17:00] the odds are very low it's a low paying jo [17:01] job [17:01] ohh [17:01] bah, multitasking will be the death of me [17:01] brousch was right [17:01] they all DO make 6 figures. [17:01] I didn't say that one lol [17:01] except jcastro, who actually has to pay them to work there [17:03] Oh, there's going to be a paddling with ADP [17:03] snap-l: so glad you worked over that time off now? [17:04] "get a gun..." [17:04] WEll, considering I don't exist in ADP's system as far as working time and all... [17:04] good grief...down to 124 tickets to process *sigh* [17:06] 30k is better than burger flipping... [17:07] also depends on the hours you work. I mean, 30k for 80 hours a week is, well, burger flipping. 30k for 20 hours a week? Sign me up! [17:16] Gah [17:16] Glad I didn't buy a boat. [17:19] Blazeix: http://walmartlabs.github.com/thorax/ [17:20] looks like some good stuff coming from Dion and company [17:20] I still find it strange to see cool things going on under the wal-mart name [17:20] ooh, nice [17:20] i've been meaning to play around with ember.js, but this might jump ahead in the queue [17:20] http://walmartlabs.github.com/lumbar/ is interesting [17:21] yea, the only thing with ember is the perf and that it's coming out of sproutcore so nervous how much it's made to fit there [17:27] I'm officially working a half-day today [17:27] crazy [17:27] it's been since Dec 22nd === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro [17:32] greg-g: :) [17:32] greg-g: how's parenthood treating you? [17:33] rick_h: Like a baby treats a diaper. ;) [17:37] Sun Java6 folks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes/Java6Transition [17:43] snap-l: very close :) [17:43] last night was rough, of course, being the night before my first day back [17:43] but, I can't complain, it is much worse for Carrie than I [18:05] http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596158071.do <- 50% off [18:19] you lucky galaxy nexus owners all get your extended batteries? http://www.droid-life.com/2012/01/17/galaxy-nexus-extended-battery-back-in-stock-at-verizon-still-50-off/ [18:26] ooh, nice find brousch [18:26] was thinking of getting one but not sure 300mha is worth $35 [18:26] $25 works for me [18:27] Blazeix ^^ [18:27] waldo isn't on, who else had a verizon one? [18:38] http://www.appbrain.com/app/ataris-greatest-hits/com.atari.mobile.greatesthits [18:39] snap-l: ^^ for all your retro gaming needs [18:39] Wolfger: You have no idea how many times I've bought Atari's catalog. ;) [18:40] starting precise upgrade on my desktop wheeee [18:41] rick_h: wow, I'm scared of the X and kernel changes that are still coming down the pipeline [18:41] Wolfger: I have the DS versions of all of those games, Gamecube, Dreamcast, and Saturn versions of the arcade games [18:41] greg-g: I'm a bit floored at the work they're doing to make this upgrade smooth and such so taking the plunge [18:41] it's free for Android and iPhone [18:41] not to mention the Jakks Pacific console versions of the 2600 games [18:42] rick_h: cool [18:42] greg-g: and I know a dozen guys on it already so figured it's a second machine why not :) [18:42] heh [18:42] Wolfger: AND 2600 versions of all of those games. ;) [18:42] you are the reason Atari's still in business? [18:42] Oh, and PC versions too [18:43] No, INfogrames was the reason. ;) [18:43] which then became part of Hasbro [18:43] They are planning to release a new version of [18:43] Asteroids, "Asteroids: Gunner" [18:43] I wish them success [18:44] I'm sure it'll be just as good as the re-releases of Frogger and Q*Bert. :-P [18:44] Actually, Q*bert's re-release wasn't too bad [18:44] Breakout was pretty pathetic as well [18:46] Oh, come on... Every version of breakout ever made has been awesome [18:48] Wolfger: Next time I find a copy, it's yours. :) [18:51] note to self, look up bzr lightweight checkouts...wtf... [18:53] can't convince Canonical to go with git? ;-) [18:55] yeah, cmon rick_h, convert them to git [18:56] I hate users [18:58] i'm sure it's reciprocal [18:59] zing! [19:09] OK, who else is weirded out whenever they see an e-mail address with a couple's name as the From: [19:09] like "Alice and Bob" [19:09] I mean, JoDee and I share a lot of things, but e-mail ain't one of them [19:10] oh yeah, i forgot that rick_h would be a BZR guy now instead of a git guy. [19:10] snap-l: old people do that [19:11] jrwren: yea, ugh..that is all [19:11] jrwren: but I see your boss ranting on git, almost replied [19:12] Yeah, I don't understand the git hate [19:12]