[00:00] <chaospsychex> wow, it's quiet in here....
[00:00] <d56> anyone know a command to reset ubuntu to default without reinstalling?
[00:00] <john_other143> ubuntu
[00:00] <john_other143> omg fail
[00:01] <chaospsychex> john_other143: ?
[00:01] <john_other143> chaos: usability is so bad, i was typing /join #ubuntu and it interrupted me, pasting ubuntu in the main chat
[00:01] <acerimmer> d56: reset WHAT ubuntu default
[00:01] <john_other143> also, scroll bars not working
[00:01] <kingisher64> mraz - but it doesn't. I keep hearing this, however if i drag a folder over it just animates backwards, unless i drag it on top of an existing folder, in which case it gets added inside the folder.
[00:01] <john_other143> sorry fellows, linux is just a fragile toy. this was a mistake. god.
[00:01] <chaospsychex> john_other143: usability is bad? what do you mean?
[00:02] <chaospsychex> john_other143: no way dude
[00:02] <john_other143> chaos: i mean that it switched focus to another field while i was typing
[00:02] <Jay45> jwp121: i dont have the correct one in the folder then
[00:02] <chaospsychex> john_other143: what do u have installed?
[00:02] <y2E0> in which means is linux fragile?
[00:02] <john_other143> chaos: ubuntu
[00:02] <chaospsychex> john_other143: which version
[00:02] <john_other143> y2E0: settings just stop working, frequent crashes
[00:02] <tobiasr33per> Titomen: you are referring to the ureadahead-other message correct?
[00:02] <john_other143> chaos: the current stable from main page i think
[00:03] <chaospsychex> john_other143: 11.10?
[00:03] <john_other143> right now, scroll bars disappeared
[00:03] <john_other143> chaos: i guess
[00:03] <d56> acerimmer: system defaults and permissions.  blahjohn is having issues where system settings arent being applied.  so was wondering if there was a command to reset a user.. wierd thing is i had him create a new user and its fine with the new user.
[00:03] <Cubbur> i was trying to move a file into a folder but got permission denied, i was going to move some files around so i went into sudo su but after i moved the files i couldnt find them, as root i moved them to /sh, where did my files go ?
[00:03] <john_other143> d56: it worked with unity --reset and reboot
[00:03] <chaospsychex> john_other143: do u still have windows on the machine? dual-boot?
[00:03] <john_other143> chaos: no
[00:03] <chaospsychex> john_other143: do u care if u have a fancy desktop ?
[00:03] <y2E0> so which scrollbars disappeared?
[00:03] <d56> john_other143: blahjohn is that you? lol
[00:03] <y2E0> you're running unity
[00:03] <chaospsychex> unity......FAIL
[00:03] <jwp121> Jay45:  ok.  dowwload this file https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/sample/sources.list
[00:03] <john_other143> d56: yes it's me
[00:03] <chaospsychex> lol
[00:04] <jrib> Cubbur: first off, don't « sudo su », it's just wrong (see ubottu).  Secondly, if you say you moved them to /sh, then that's where they are.
[00:04] <d56> john_other143: so it worked! nice man..
[00:04] <jrib> !sudo | Cubbur
[00:04] <acerimmer> d56: I would suspect there are some settings you didn't address in the hidden folders since it resets properly with new user.
[00:04] <chaospsychex> gnome2.x can't be stepped on!
[00:04] <john_other143> chaos: i don't give a shit about the desktop. my last linux was an arch running vim and nothing else. i work in the command line on the mac. but on mac, the command line WORKS
[00:04] <tobiasr33per> Titomen: Check your /etc/fstab cause status 4 is not and error, it means that you had a mountpoint in your fstab that didn't have any files on it needed during boot.
[00:04] <chaospsychex> john_other143: lol what are you talking about? i'm outside of Xorg right now and it....works!
[00:04] <kitty_> i have a netgear wireless usb card, when i insert the card, dmesg displays "[  573.812762] usb 5-7: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice" and lsusb lists "Bus 005 Device 004: ID 0846:9011 NetGear, Inc." but no /dev device is attached to it, and no network interface is created, suggestoin?
[00:04] <john_other143> d56: i'm guessing the permissions on my settings folder got changed somehow - no idea how, though. haven't used chmod before today on this machine.
[00:05] <acerimmer> !language|john_other143
[00:05] <john_other143> chaos: it crashed twice on me today, and changed all my settings
[00:05] <d56> now can someone recommed a webpanel like cpanel for ubuntu pls..
[00:05] <chaospsychex> john_other143: sounds like your having some hardware issues
[00:05] <chaospsychex> john_other143: drivers or something...
[00:05] <john_other143> chaos: ah, the hardware excuse..
[00:05] <d56> lol
[00:05] <tobiasr33per> lols
[00:05] <d56> its not hardware man..
[00:06] <d56> john_other143: you should call the manufcature.. lol
[00:06] <chaospsychex> john_other143: you should throw the thing out the window
[00:06] <Titomen> tobiasr33per: yes and also to the recovering journal
[00:06] <chaospsychex> john_other143: is it a laptop?
[00:06] <john_other143> chaos: yess
[00:06] <kingisher64> chaospsychex - my desktop keeps freezing. I thought only windows was meant to do this? Ubuntu 11.10 is far more unreliable than windows 7 in my experience. ubuntu has froze more in 1 week for me than windows 7 has since it's launch
[00:06] <y2E0> let me bring the mac example up for illustrating that support may cause a big difference. since you're paying apple the support is much better.
[00:06] <john_other143> i'm planning on returning it and getting a mac again.
[00:07] <john_other143> king: had the same thing. frequent freezes.
[00:07] <chaospsychex> kingisher64: do u still have win7 installed?
[00:07] <kingisher64> i do
[00:07] <chaospsychex> kingisher64: u have a laptop as well?
[00:07] <kingisher64> yep
[00:07] <john_other143> y2E0: apple support is horrible.
[00:07] <chaospsychex> kingisher64: tell me about your hardware
[00:07] <y2E0> I talk also about non-visible support.
[00:07] <john_other143> i was trying to get off apple, because i hate them. but the competition is even worse.
[00:07] <kitty_> i have a netgear wireless usb card, when i insert the card, dmesg displays "[  573.812762] usb 5-7: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice" and lsusb lists "Bus 005 Device 004: ID 0846:9011 NetGear, Inc." but no /dev device is attached to it, and no network interface is created, suggestoin?
[00:07] <d56> what do you mean.. there geniuses!
[00:08] <john_other143> d56: let me consult with the other geniutheth
[00:08] <d56> john_other143: have you considered a thinkpad?
[00:08] <y2E0> ever heard bout personal impression?
[00:08] <kingisher64> it's a core2 duo dell inspiron 1520, 4gb ram, 7200 500gb hard drive. Nvidia 8600m gt graphics card. 9 cell battery - chaospsychex
[00:08] <chaospsychex> kingisher64: check ur pm
[00:08] <john_other143> d56: i used to have one. problem is they're as expensive as a mac, so i might just as well buy a mac and get a good OS
[00:08] <chaospsychex> john_other143: i'm going to get a t42 thinkpad
[00:09] <john_other143> king: i'm on a dell too, that might be the problem. dell it hell.
[00:09] <d56> x220 for me
[00:09] <y2E0> I have an Asus and it works like a charm. also support is really good (in Europe)
[00:09] <john_other143> chaos: not familiar with weird non-apple typing, what kind is a t42?
[00:09] <d56> t42 is a classic thinkpad model.
[00:09] <acerimmer> My Dell Inspiron triple boots Win7, OSX Snow Leopard and Ubuntu Studio.
[00:10] <acerimmer> FLAWLESSLY except for OSX
[00:10] <john_other143> this is hilarious. now i can't start the browser.
[00:11] <d56> great freaking laptop.. but dated.. i believe it was replaced with the t420
[00:11] <john_other143> at least VPN now works. back when i first used ubuntu, that was a pain.
[00:14] <alexim> hi, if i ssh to my ubuntu 11.10 machine, and then do something like "gnome-open .", the resulting file explorer (nautilus...?) doesn't show different icons for folders vs. flat files...is that something I can change?
[00:15] <paulsomebody> Can anyone take a look at my Samba config file and tell me what is wrong? I have referenced several manuals and tried a few things, but I still cannot mount my Public folder from other machines. Printer sharing works flawlessly, though. http://paste.ubuntu.com/806854/
[00:17] <aBound> Hey is there anyway to disable the touchpad from within Ubuntu?
[00:19] <yabai> aBound: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[00:20] <MonkeyDust> aBound  you need gpoint something
[00:21] <yabai> MonkeyDust: the link I gave him has instructions
[00:22] <mraz_> kingisher64 simply go to the folder you wish to bookmark and on the nautilus menu click on bookmarks
[00:22] <mraz_> press add bookmark and bam done
[00:22] <MonkeyDust> yabai  the repos have a program to do it
[00:23] <MonkeyDust> !info gpointing-device-settings
[00:23] <yabai> MonkeyDust: why do you need a program? that is like buying a gun to kill a piece of meat
[00:24]  * yabai oh boy. . .
[00:24] <aBound> Probably best I stick with installing the touchpad- indicator.
[00:24] <yabai> aBound: I see you have read the link I sent :)
[00:24] <MonkeyDust> always more than one way to fix something
[00:24] <aBound> yabai, Indeed there's a command to completely disable it. Just not a good idea to do that.
[00:24] <em> True or false: Toshiba usually makes pretty good laptops for running ubuntu.
[00:24] <yabai> MonkeyDust: if you like bloat
[00:27] <aBound> yabai, Cool the touchpad-indicator worked. I wanted it cause every time I typed something the touchpad is so sensitive that it frustrates me.
[00:27] <ghost1> yo.
[00:27] <acerimmer> mama
[00:28] <aBound> Weee...coding without problems. lol
[00:29] <yabai> aBound: I turned my touchpad off completely...running a thinkpad so i also have the red nipple
[00:29] <Mr-Linux> Class is in session!
[00:29] <Mr-Linux> 0.o
[00:29] <yabai> aBound: but mostly don't use the mouse at all :-)
[00:30] <ghost1> *dances*
[00:30] <aBound> yabai, I use the mouse mostly rather than the touchpad.
[00:30] <aBound> Laptop.
[00:30] <y2E0> I've just ceated content (body page)
[00:30] <ddursma> need help with a printer
[00:30] <y2E0> ah shit wrong channel xD
[00:30] <aBound> yabai, But the laptop is so close to the touchpad it gets on your nerves.
[00:30] <aBound> Next time I'll know to buy a smaller laptop.
[00:31] <Mr-Linux> aBound: next time buy a real computer, a desktop
[00:31] <Mr-Linux> 0.o
[00:31] <yabai> aBound: good luck!
[00:31] <paulsomebody> Can anyone take a look at my Samba config file and tell me what is wrong? I have referenced several manuals and tried a few things, but I still cannot mount my Public folder from other machines. Printer sharing works flawlessly, though. http://paste.ubuntu.com/806854/
[00:31] <aBound> Mr-Linux, HA! Saying this isn't a real computer.
[00:31] <flowerpot> they should really call them deskbottoms, not desktops
[00:32]  * yabai need to get some *work done
[00:32] <Mr-Linux> aBound: ?
[00:32] <y2E0> tablet is future mates :)
[00:32] <mkanyicy> hi
[00:32] <ddursma> need help with a printer driver
[00:32] <Mr-Linux> y2E0: not any future i wanna participate in
[00:32] <yabai> y2E0: according to who? apple?
[00:32] <aBound> Mr-Linux, Intel quad-core 2.20Ghz processor, 16GBs of 1333Mhz RAM, nVidia 1.5GB 580M GTX, Ubuntu 11.10 64-Bit, Intel Centrino Ultimate-M, Intel 80GB SSD.
[00:32]  * Mr-Linux smashes tablet
[00:32] <aBound> Seems real enough to me.
[00:32] <aBound> lol
[00:32] <y2E0> i work with android its great. you can plug them in for big screens.
[00:33] <mkanyicy> i want to install ubuntu 12.04 alpha 1, my question is will i be able to upgrade it to the next alphas, betas along the way up to the final release?
[00:33] <y2E0> atach usb keyboard + mouse = all you need.
[00:33] <lactose> so i am trying to set up rails with unicorn. i have my unicorn config.rb file set up, and if i run unicorn_rails -c /path/to/config.rb as my user
[00:33] <jrib> !precise | mkanyicy
[00:33] <Mr-Linux> aBound: 16GBs of ram? you gonna use all that?
[00:33] <Mr-Linux> aBound: your cpu is lacking
[00:33] <lactose> everything starts up fine and i can view the website. however, if i run the Upstart script, (and it basically exec sudo -u myuser -i `unicorn_rails -c 'path/to/config'` i get no error msg, but i cant view the web
[00:34] <mkanyicy> jrib, all i wanted was a yes or a no, ok thanks by the way
[00:34] <lactose> everything starts up fine and i can view the website. however, if i run the Upstart script, (and it basically exec sudo -u myuser -i `unicorn_rails -c 'path/to/config'` i get no error msg, but i cant view the web
[00:34] <apc> hello, how long to cook bacon for?
[00:34] <jrib> mkanyicy: #ubuntu+1 knows
[00:34] <aBound> Mr-Linux, Varies future-proofing and if I intend to use heavy IDEs like eclipse and the likes. I may never use it now but it'll eventually be used in the long-term.
[00:34] <Mr-Linux> aBound: ahhh, why didn't you put a 16 core in?
[00:35] <aBound> Mr-Linux, As more and more OS's are starting to use more RAM and needing a better processor.
[00:35] <aBound> Mr-Linux, As far as I know they don't have 16-cores for laptops.
[00:35] <Mr-Linux> aBound: more and more OS's ? such as?........windows?
[00:35] <ddursma> per the forum, downloaded driver, can't open in gedit to make suggested changes. what folder do you save a printer driver to?
[00:36] <aBound> Mr-Linux, Varies seeing as people might tend to use virtual machines on their Linux box or whatever else they do. Someone doing rendering work in Blender or blah.
[00:36] <mkanyicy> jrib, thanks, i got help that side
[00:37] <aBound> Using compiz I figure I can switch between browsers/editors and the likes.
[00:37] <aBound> Just wish compiz was stable for 11.10 hopefully it'll be fixed for 12.04.
[00:37] <Mr-Linux> aBound: i get tired of updating
[00:38] <Mr-Linux> aBound: soon as u get everything working right, time to update and do it again, lol
[00:38] <bazhang> !ot | aBound Mr-Linux
[00:38] <Mr-Linux> ok
[00:38] <aBound> Mr-Linux, I agree seeing as you already have everything setup the way you want it. But figures using Unity 5.0 will be stable enough to use and keeping 12.04 LTS might be a keeper.
[00:38] <aBound> bazhang, hehe.
[00:39] <bazhang> aBound, he quit. also you know the channel guidelines about chit chat
[00:39] <txomon|home> hi, I have been looking for a good way to automatically mount partitions, network samba partitions, and the ubuntu wiki is a little outdated. What must be used?
[00:40] <Cane> asdfg
[00:40] <aBound> bazhang, Indeed
[00:40] <ddursma> how do I edit printer driver?
[00:41] <jrib> txomon|home: how is it outdated?
[00:42] <ddursma> Clearly no help here
[00:43] <txomon|home> jrib, well, it says that the fourth method is outdated, and I figured out that in one year, things might have changed
[00:43] <jrib> txomon|home: you still use cifs in fstab as far as I know.  I believe the wiki still discusses that, no?
[00:46] <CJMiller> I have Ubuntu 11.10 and the fglrx drivers for my Radeon HD 5570.  How do I get it to 1920x1080?
[00:47] <txomon|home> jrib, the main problem is that im not using any gui. I am using apt-cacher-ng, and for launching it, there is a init.d script. and looking at dependencies, there is a requirement as "#Required Start: $remote_fs
[00:47] <txomon|home> "
[00:47] <jrib> txomon|home: why is that the main problem?  Use fstab
[00:48] <txomon|home> jrib, ... Its samba mount what I need
[00:48] <jrib> txomon|home: yes, and?
[00:48] <CJMiller> ...
[00:48] <txomon|home> jrib, fstab can be used for that?
[00:48] <jrib> txomon|home: isn't that what the wiki talks about?
[00:48] <txomon|home> hummmm didn't see that... I saw normal fs...
[00:48] <jrib> !samba | txomon|home
[00:49] <jrib> txomon|home: the first one there
[00:49] <RokcStar> is smb is for Windows, what protocol does Nix use to share?
[00:49] <taofd> #/join linux
[00:49] <txomon|home> jrib, incredible, I didn't even thought fstab could do that
[00:49] <taofd> oops
[00:49] <CJMiller> ...
[00:49] <alien2050> RokcStar: there are many but NFS works really well
[00:50] <CJMiller> I have Ubuntu 11.10 and the fglrx drivers for my Radeon HD 5570.  How do I get it to 1920x1080?
[00:50] <RokcStar> can nfs be installed on windows?
[00:51] <hatem0101> hi
[00:51] <LinuxApprentice> hi
[00:51] <hatem0101> whatsup
[00:51] <alien2050> RokcStar: yes, but the client only so you need some *nix box setup. I think the server will require a license or something, there might be other free solutions for windows, I don't know.
[00:51] <RokcStar> thanks
[00:52] <alien2050> RokcStar: I wouldn't let windows handle any other thing than games imho... :)
[00:53] <CJMiller> -_-
[00:54] <kary> Hey folks, looking for some help with a network controller in my media centre running ubuntu 11.10.  It can't seem to get an IP address from the DHCP server in my router.  All other devices work fine, and this machine worked fine when I had Windows on it earlier today
[00:55] <txomon|home> jrib, I had modified apt-cacher-ng init.d script ,,, XD
[00:55] <kary> Its a Nvidia ION chipset, nvidia mcp79 using forcedeth module, 10de:0ab0 pciid
[00:55] <CJMiller> I have Ubuntu 11.10 and the fglrx drivers for my Radeon HD 5570.  How do I get it to 1920x1080?
[01:02] <iam_that_guy> big room.
[01:02] <metasansana> peeps
[01:03] <metasansana> im trying to install a second nic on ubuntu server
[01:03] <metasansana> i see with lspci but it wont get any dhcp ips
[01:04] <metasansana> any thoughts?
[01:04] <RokcStar> try setting the dhcp ip manually
[01:04] <RokcStar> on the second nic
[01:04] <iam_that_guy> and i was wondering about forcing 11.10 to install x86 using the ubuntu installer, wibuntu? can't remember atm
[01:04] <metasansana> id it wont communicate still
[01:04] <RokcStar> i mean, gateway
[01:05] <RokcStar> what if you disable the first one and test with only the second
[01:05] <metasansana> no traffic in iptraf either RokcStar
[01:07] <iam_that_guy> or should i just quit being lame and figure out the usb drive loading option?
[01:10] <zachbarnett> if anyone wants to help me with one of those notpr0n style puzzle trails (just was published today)  i could use some
[01:10] <zachbarnett> i'm not very far and it's a pretty good one
[01:11] <zachbarnett> http://www.joshdmweb.com/Riddles1/uno/intro.html
[01:12] <risperdal> hello everybody
[01:13] <risperdal> I have an question, can i move items on gnome-shell top panel?
[01:13] <xangua> zachbarnett: please stick to the topic
[01:13] <binaryplease> zachbarnett: very cool, ill try
[01:13] <binaryplease> zachbarnett: how far did you get?
[01:13] <zachbarnett> my apologies xangua
[01:14] <metasansana> RokcStar: Still nothing
[01:14] <risperdal> Can i move items on gnome-shell top panel?
[01:15] <metasansana> RokcStar: Im seeing 'renamed network interface eth1 to eth2' in the kernel log
[01:15] <metasansana> why would this happen?
[01:16] <RokcStar> metasansana: not sure. i was only thinking of what may be happening but i dont have an answer
[01:16] <metasansana> lol, thanks for the support
[01:16] <United7> Do we need to update Ubuntu Software Centre ?
[01:16] <United7> or it gets update it self ?
[01:17] <metasansana> I dont get it though I have one in the same nics going great on a debian install
[01:17] <urlin2u> United7, it is upgraded as needed with updates and upgrades
[01:18] <United7> Ok..
[01:18] <United7> thanks
[01:18] <urlin2u> United7, np.
[01:19] <United7> How to check if my Ubuntu 32bit or 64 bit ?
[01:19] <CJMiller> Strange
[01:19] <zerothis> I can't boot any sessions except lubuntu, classic, gnome, netbook, xubuntu all blink and return to the login screen. lubuntu session as no connection
[01:20] <CJMiller> I got a 3.1GHz dualcore Athlon II and 4GB of RAM, and yet Ubuntu runs much slower than Redmond OS
[01:20] <CJMiller> how to rectify?
[01:20] <zerothis> I can't boot any sessions except lubuntu
[01:20] <metasansana> United7:  uname -a
[01:20] <United7> ok..thx
[01:20] <AdvancedGarde> Hello there, I've just done a fresh install of ubuntu on my PC. Ubuntu is automatically mounting my two non OS drives on boot, but they are not present in /etc/fstab - I want to bind my home directory to one of the drives but my entry in fstab is being executed before the drive becomes ready. Where/When might these drives be being mounted?
[01:20] <urlin2u> zerothis, what was the last installed?
[01:21] <zerothis> i was upgrading to oneiric
[01:22] <urlin2u> zerothis, all one OS right? you say boot but you mean login?
[01:23] <metaspike> zerothis: so many conflicting DE'! i would - sudo rcconf - and ensure that there is only one session manager, one network daemon etc. also I suggest xdm, as it's a fairly foolproof lo0gin manager
[01:24] <zerothis> yes, sorry, i meant log in. I tried lubu but didn't have net connection. so I installed xubu. desk. then ubu. desk. it was all working fine then suddenly nothing
[01:24] <zerothis> rcconf command not found
[01:25] <urlin2u> zerothis, you need to enable the all users in the network manager in the original install.
[01:26] <zerothis> xdm in not an option at login, do i need to install it? (note, not net connect)
[01:26] <metaspike> zerothis: that and xdm, bottom line is. there's too much in the waterworks, you will have to simplify your bootup strategy
[01:27] <Guest2016> how do i know if my pc can support virtualization
[01:28] <AdvancedGarde> I've just done a fresh install of ubuntu 11.10 on my PC. Ubuntu is automatically mounting my two non OS drives during boot, but they are not present in /etc/fstab - I want to bind my home directory to one of the drives but my entry in fstab is being executed before the drive becomes ready. Where/When might these drives be being mounted?
[01:28] <oneliner> quick q: how can i change the default program to open a given file? eg .pls from shoutcast to open in vlc instead of banshee?
[01:29] <cheeseboy> anyone have gtk dev headers installed? if so where does ubuntu put them?
[01:30] <BigOrange> oneliner: open system settings  (cog on the left) then click  system info>default applications :)
[01:31] <cayou99> help! X won't start on computer with Optimus. Only starts in safe mode (1024x768).. what can I do?
[01:32] <oneliner> BigOrange: thanks, had to type it in though, hidden icon
[01:32] <benbloom__> which packages do i remove to get rid of the 32b flash plugin for firefox and then make way for the adobe-plugins (64b)
[01:33] <BigOrange> Guest2016: as a general rule VMWare needs a processor with virtualisation, Vbox, will attempt to use your hardware. In this instance it depends on what you're hardware can handle. For example my netbook has an atom processor, Can't virtualise Fedora, but can Virtualise XP no Probs :)
[01:33] <oneliner> and that didint work :) how can i find out where the vlc executable is so i can point it out by hand?
[01:35] <BigOrange> oneliner Try running VLC and choosing to make it the default media player from inside the program?
[01:35] <urlin2u> oneliner, right what you want to run in vlc-properties-open with.
[01:36] <urlin2u> click*
[01:36] <cayou99> anyone with experience with Optimus?
[01:37] <metaspike> AdvancedGarde: is automount installed? anything like that?
[01:37] <loganrun> the sound doesn't seem to work on wine, is there any easy way to fix that, I try winecfg and test the sound but it fails
[01:37] <BTCTrader> i want to switch my filesystem, can i use mke2fs on a disk that already has ext3? will it just need to be unmounted first?
[01:37] <Richiie> hi
[01:37] <Richiie> i have an quick question whit crontab just to be sure,
[01:37] <metaspike> AdvancedGarde: does grub touch the drives for some reason? something must do, check the boot sequence with rcconf
[01:38] <Richiie> if i have this in my crontab 5 4   5   */2  *  /path/to/script
[01:38] <loganrun> tried both emulation and full and it fails with Audio test failed
[01:38] <Richiie> will it be run 04:05 every 5th day per month every other month ?
[01:39] <Richiie> is it possible in crontab to tell a script to be run every 4th month? for example Jan may sep
[01:39] <benbloom__> i just ran 'apt-get install adobe-flashplugin without removing anything. seems to work
[01:39] <jrib> Richiie: yes; yes (use /4 instead of /2)
[01:40] <TheBuntu> How do i remove ia32-libs and it's depends ? In Syanptic if i click remove on the package it just wants to remove the package and not it's depends
[01:40] <Richiie> jrib: */4 = every 4th month ?
[01:40] <Richiie> jrib: and */2 = every 2nd month right ?
[01:40] <jrib> Richiie: yes, see « man 5 crontab »
[01:40] <Richiie> jrib: ok thanks
[01:40] <AdvancedGarde> metaspike, Does ubuntu have rc.conf? I thouht that was a BSDism?
[01:43] <jrib> AdvancedGarde: he said rcconf, not /etc/rc.conf ;)
[01:43] <jrib> !info rcconf | AdvancedGarde
[01:45] <AdvancedGarde> jrib, Ahh so he did, my mistake.
[01:46] <jrib> oneliner: want hard way or easy way (don't know in current ubuntu)?
[01:48] <oneliner> jrib, already found it /usr/bin/vlc
[01:52] <sidney_> when i attempted to apt-get gnome-session fallback I got an error E: Unable to locate package fallback
[01:52] <jrib> sidney_: yes, that means there's no package available named "fallback"
[01:52] <calamity> hey, just installed 10.04 and I'm currently unable to connect to freenode via xchat, irssi, etc.
[01:52] <xangua> gnome-session-fallback instead sidney_
[01:53] <AdvancedGarde> metaspike, Okay, one of my drives is (well two of my drives) are a raid array that I assume is being mounted by mdadm, however the drive I want to bind to is not. Is it possible that mdadm is mounting it?
[01:53] <calamity> Connection timed out and all that, anyone had any issues with this?
[01:53] <sidney_> i did the update what could have happened\
[01:54] <xangua> you missed a "-" sidney_
[01:54] <jimisrvrox1> hey guys trying to figure out how to backup my /dev/sda3 partition which is an extended partition with multiple partitions under it because I need to repartition my drive. I tried dd if=/dev/sda3 /media/LinuxBackup.img and did not work at all. Any help would be appreciated.
[01:54] <sidney_> xangua, I missed a?
[01:54] <sidney_> ok i see
[01:55] <urlin2u> jimisrvrox1, clonzilla.org
[01:55] <bazhang> clonezilla I believe
[01:57] <trelane_> hi, I have metered bandwidth, and am attempting to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10.   I have an 11.10 CDROM, how do I get from here to there?  (online documentation appreciated as google is being a cruel mistress tonight)
[01:57] <jrib> trelane_: only with the alt cd
[01:57] <sidney_> xangua, this is cut and paste where did i miss a "-" sudo apt-get install gnome-session fallback
[01:57] <trelane_> jrib altcd?
[01:58] <jrib> !alternate | trelane_
[01:58] <xangua> !Info gnome-session-fallback
[01:58] <trelane_> jrib: thanks!
[01:59] <sidney_> xangua, thanks that did it
[02:00] <tehgeek> Damn.  Power to my computer was accidentally cut (it's on a circuit with a wall switch :P) and now my Linux installation thinks my monitor is some weird "DFP-1" and can't go above 640x480....but I have a Windows installation behaving normally.
[02:00] <tehgeek> Anoyne have a clue what the problem could be?  :S
[02:00] <ssfdre38> what is the command to fix this error http://paste.ssfdre38.com/37
[02:01] <xangua> !gpgerr | ssfdre38
[02:02] <jimisrvrox1> urlin2u: ok so with clonezilla I can put my sda3 partition into an image and then repartition it and then put all the fs and whatever partitions are there into the repartitioned sda3? essentially I need to make my home dir or maybe the root dir bigger because ive run out of space...
[02:02] <rebe> any particular reason why videos on youtube freezes and breakes after some time on ubuntu ?
[02:03] <erpo> jimisrvrox1: With a good backup system in place, I wonder why you would ever need separate partitions.
[02:03] <metaspike> tehgeek: which video card?
[02:03] <erpo> jimisrvrox1: And if you do need separate partitions, try LVM.
[02:03] <urlin2u> jimisrvrox1, clonezilla will save partitions and whole HD's, so set up the extended first then the ext the larger size and reload it back in. If your partition # is different that can be dealt with.
[02:04] <tehgeek> MetaBot: NVidia GTX 260
[02:06] <MrShake> anyone here have any luck with 11.10 on a Dell Mini 12?
[02:06] <MrShake> stupid GMA500 graphics
[02:08] <MrShake> I guess not
[02:09] <MrShake> its not going well, thats for sure
[02:09] <aeon-ltd> MrShake: hang around a lil longer
[02:09] <MrShake> oh
[02:09] <MrShake> I will
[02:09] <MrShake> :)
[02:09] <MrShake> thanks
[02:09] <aeon-ltd> MrShake: if you want linux ubuntu isn't your only option
[02:09] <FloodBot1> MrShake: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:09] <urlin2u> MrShake, what actualy happening?
[02:09] <urlin2u> what's
[02:10] <Guest14848> anyone here any good with partitions?
[02:10] <aeon-ltd> urlin2u: intel gma500, 11.10 , got problems
[02:10] <MrShake> aeon-ltd, very true, I'm looking at others now
[02:10] <aeon-ltd> Guest14848: ask the real question
[02:10] <MrShake> urlin2u, trying either the "try ubuntu" or the "install ubuntu" options from a bootable USB stick, it eventually drops out to a command line login
[02:10] <urlin2u> aeon-ltd, seems as such eh.
[02:10] <MrShake> it will not start the x server at all
[02:11] <snickers_> HELP! I added an fstab entry and rebooted and the system lock on boot up. I can log in safe mode but the fstab file is read only (the drive is actually I think) any way to change to write mode?
[02:11] <MrShake> I've even tried the ISO version of 11.10 that supposedly has the emgd drives added
[02:11] <MrShake> snickers_, have you tried to sudo?
[02:11] <Guest14848> sorry, i have a 160gb hdd i installed a partitioned ubuntu on and want the music files off the other partitions
[02:11] <snickers_> yes
[02:11] <snickers_> even tried sudo -i
[02:12] <MrShake> try booting a live CD and then mount the drive and see if you can edit it
[02:12] <aeon-ltd> Guest14848: is that a windows partition?
[02:12] <snickers_> it is ext3, maybe it cant do write because it is journalling filesystem?
[02:13] <Guest14848> i have a 40gb hdd for my windows c: drive and ran out of room, i have a 20gb music/video library....
[02:13] <MrShake> so anyway, I've tried a ton of versions, but Ubuntu 10.04 seems to be the only version that will run
[02:13] <MrShake> and that seems to have no ability to do an external monitor with this darn video chipset
[02:13] <snickers_> liveCD might work, thanks
[02:14] <AdvancedGarde> Adding the drive to the fstab before my bind seems to have solved my problem. I'm not getting any errors form anything else as the system boots so I'll assume this is resolved - although I'll continue to hunt for whatever was mounting my drives for me.
[02:14] <aeon-ltd> Guest14848: so the music partition is stand-alone, what is it formatted as?
[02:14] <AdvancedGarde> Thank you for your help, night night
[02:14] <rlmccormick> anyone here use htop?
[02:15] <aeon-ltd> rlmccormick: yes, a lot of people do
[02:15] <bazhang> rlmccormick, whats the real question
[02:15] <rlmccormick> it seems to always show twice as many cores as i have
[02:15] <MrShake> or... any other suggestions for linux flavors for the netbook?
[02:15] <aeon-ltd> rlmccormick: intel? hyperthreading?
[02:15] <rlmccormick> quad core processor, shows 8 cores in gui
[02:15] <aeon-ltd> rlmccormick: if so that's correct,
[02:15] <aeon-ltd> i7?
[02:15] <shade34321> so i just finished building a computer for work and when I stuck a Ubuntu live CD in it recongnized my sata 6 2TB hard drive as being a SCSI...any idea why?
[02:16] <rlmccormick> on another install, which is a vmware install, i see the same thing
[02:16] <aeon-ltd> Guest14848: can you use terminal? if so look up the command 'mount'.
[02:16] <aeon-ltd> rlmccormick: is it a intel i7?
[02:16] <rlmccormick> i7 yes
[02:17] <aeon-ltd> rlmccormick: it has hyperthreading so it is percieved as 8 cores
[02:17] <sorei> Most i7s support hyp
[02:17] <sorei> Oops
[02:17] <rlmccormick> i see, thx
[02:18] <Guest14848> aeon, sorry i was afk its a ntfs format, im running windows right now, otherwise i cannot view the files
[02:19] <MrShake> hrm
[02:19] <Guest14848> aeon-ltd
[02:21] <Guest14848> how can i transfer about 25gb worth of content from one partition to another
[02:21] <pythonirc1011> on apt-get upgrade, I get: E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.  I tried : sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf -- but it won't let me -- says filesystem read only
[02:21] <pythonirc1011> Any ideas what is wrong?
[02:22] <StrikerMan780> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11617016#post11617016
[02:22] <metaspike> Guest14848: cp -r /source /destination - a simple method?
[02:23] <Guest14848> i am clueless with command line or terminal
[02:24] <jwp121> If both partitions are mounted, can't you drag and drop the folder with nautilus?
[02:25] <Guest14848> how do i specify different partitions, i am attempting the switch from windows to ubuntu and dont want to lose all my music and video files...
[02:25] <metaspike> ubottu tell Guest14848 new
[02:25] <metaspike> *sigh
[02:26] <metaspike> ubottu new
[02:26] <StrikerMan780> Does anybody know what the heck is going on with my terminal, and whatnot? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11617016#post11617016
[02:26] <Guest14848> hahah
[02:26] <urlin2u> Guest14848, ubuntu will see the ntfs partitions, and have read and write if that helps.
[02:26] <DaZ> Guest14848: unix doesn't use letters, instead it mounts partitions into directories
[02:27] <DaZ> and nautilus should have some thingie to switch between them somewhere :f
[02:27] <Guest14848> alright, im still lost wat is nsutilus
[02:27] <Guest14848> natilus*
[02:28] <bazhang> Guest14848, the file browser
[02:28] <jwp121> in Ubuntu
[02:28] <Guest14848> and how do i view the different partitions from natilus
[02:28] <bazhang> thought it was GNOME
[02:28] <jwp121> Guest14848:  Have you installed Ubuntu yet?
[02:28] <Guest14848> yes
[02:29] <urlin2u> Guest14848, I would dualboot unitil you understand ubuntu and linux in general.
[02:30] <jwp121> Guest14848:  Are you dualbooting now?
[02:30] <Guest14848> no how would i dual boot and wat is it
[02:32] <urlin2u> Guest14848, you need to get your google foo going we are not going to answer every question, some are easy to find
[02:32] <urlin2u> we want to help man but help youself as well. :D
[02:34] <jwp121> !new
[02:34] <Guest14848> ight, sorry unfamilar with anything outside windows
[02:34] <bazhang> !dualboot | Guest14848
[02:34] <Barbariandude> Hey all! I'd like to update from kernel 3.0 to 3.2 on ubuntu 11.10, due to the updated support for my gfx card and powersaving stuff. I have the patch from kernel.org which seems to be a diff file... How do I proceed in applying the patch with this file?
[02:35] <metaspike> Guest14848: come back if read the instructions first then get stuck afterwards or cannot understand something specific eh
[02:35] <Barbariandude> Would just like to make sure I don't do anything stupid
[02:35] <metaspike> Barbariandude: you want to apply the patch to he kernel source?
[02:36] <yabai> Barbariandude: http://www.howopensource.com/2011/08/how-to-compile-and-install-linux-kernel-3-0-in-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-and-10-04/
[02:36] <metaspike> or just upgrade, that would seem simpler eh
[02:36] <moljac024> why is the mouse cursor larger in firefox? this bug has been going on for years
[02:36] <Barbariandude> yabai, so basically don't patch but re-compile the entire thing?
[02:36] <Barbariandude> metaspike, yes
[02:37] <DaZ> Barbariandude: you patch the source code :f
[02:37] <StrikerMan780> Hello? I feel as if I am invisible
[02:37] <lygen> u are
[02:37] <Barbariandude> DaZ, how do I do that? Move the file into the root directory and run a diff or what?
[02:38] <jwp121> StrikerMan780:  What's your question?
[02:38] <StrikerMan780> This: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11617016#post11617016
[02:38] <shade34321> Is there any reason why Ubuntu would recognize 1 SATA hard drive as a SCSI drive?
[02:39] <DaZ> Barbariandude: to patch, you run.. patch :f
[02:39] <sorei> Probably a bios setting - raid related
[02:39] <pambos> guys how can i install ioncube on ubuntu 10.4 ?
[02:40] <shade34321> sorei: I'm assuming you're talking to me, it's set as IDE and enhanced
[02:40] <shade34321> i also tried compatible
[02:40] <Barbariandude> DaZ, running it now, I hope it's that easy!
[02:40] <JBunny> firefox crahe anor freeze almot contantly anyone have a new brower to recommen
[02:40] <metaspike> Barbariandude: something lik this.   patch -p1 < 3.x  - you might want to "man patch" for the specifics thouh
[02:41] <jwp121> StikerMan780:  I know nothing about switching around $PATHs, hopefully somewhere smarter then I will come along.
[02:41] <metaspike> has anyone compiled the doom3 source here with an ati card?
[02:41] <sorei> Oh ok, I had a related issue once which was due to funky raid settings, it doesn't cause any performance issues for you right?
[02:42] <shade34321> I'm not sure...I didn't install it
[02:42] <metaspike> besides me :(
[02:42] <shade34321> i was trying to install RHEL, what we use at work, and it wouldn't recognize it so I thought I'd see what ubuntu showed for it, and it saw the hard drive just not correctly
[02:42] <urlin2u> JBunny, many like chrome, have you thought of asking for help with FF.
[02:43] <sl33p3rs> im having issues with ubuntu could some one here help me?
[02:43] <metaspike> JBunny: ubuntu11 right? you might want to try an earlier version of FF or chromium
[02:43] <mobodo> anyone successfully configured ubuntu to work as a timecapsule?
[02:43] <urlin2u> sl33p3rs, probably state the problems.
[02:44] <JBunny> urlin2u: no i hadnt. yes 11.10
[02:44] <metaspike> mobodo: you mean like, store lots of personal data on it then bury it in your backyard?
[02:44] <sl33p3rs> it isnt allowing me to install anything from source. i attempt to use the ./configure command but its a different problem everytime
[02:45] <mobodo> metaspike: ahaha no, like an apple timecapsule for use with timemachine (mac backups)
[02:45] <metaspike> sl33p3rs: the ./configure errors are hints as to what is needed to compile it, if it exists in the repo you can apt-get build-dep <packagename> to get the requirements.
[02:45] <Barbariandude> mobodo, look at deja dup for backups, it comes by default
[02:45] <mobodo> metaspike: I have serious doubts that hard drives would survive even a few years buried underground nowadays
[02:46] <sl33p3rs> metaspike: thank you this helps alot.
[02:46] <sl33p3rs> ill be lurking for a bit.
[02:46] <metaspike> mobodo: maybe if it's in a safe. :)
[02:46] <urlin2u> set it and forget it
[02:47] <mobodo> metaspike: I don't know, I've had hard drive failures for simply not using the drive for a long time (5+ years), I'm guessing the bits eventually fade out with time
[02:48] <osmosis> how can I change the password on my encrypted LVM drive?
[02:48] <sorei> Oh well, we can always fall back on tape.
[02:49] <metaspike> osmosis: like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670667
[02:49] <osmosis> metaspike, yes, cool
[02:49] <coleix> guys i'm having problem with video, it lags a bit and when I increase the size of the video or go full screen the image freeze or go to black
[02:50] <dyek> Hi! Does Gitolite's sskm command exist as a Ubuntu package?
[02:50] <sl33p3rs> metaspike: clearly im fucking retarded and i know nothing of this OS im trying to install irssi but im missing a glib. i download this glib and then what?
[02:50] <coleix> it also happen with online video btw
[02:50] <metaspike> it's an interesting thought anyway, nothing seems permanent even in the digital world less so, unless it's duplicated indefinately or stored somehow, it's just vapourware eh, not like the books of anquity
[02:51] <metaspike> sl33p3rs: sudo apt-get install irssi - from terminal says what?
[02:52] <metaspike> coleix: probably a problem with flash and/or your video drivers. get the latest driver and consider html5 (webm) support for typical websites and flash replacers like flashvideo replacer (firefox addon) or umplayer
[02:52] <sl33p3rs> metaspike: oh fuck... my fault i was trying to install from a package but that worked thank you!!!!!
[02:52] <pangolin> sl33p3rs: Please mind your language
[02:53] <sl33p3rs> pangolin: sorry.
[02:53] <coleix> I dont think is flash because i have the latest update and it also affects videos i have locally
[02:53] <metaspike> my old lady say's "oh fudge!" when she wants to swear :)
[02:53] <sl33p3rs> lol i should try it.
[02:53] <metaspike> coleix: ati. nvidia or intel?
[02:53] <coleix> ati, but i haven't found any new drivers
[02:53] <Kangarooo> I have 1 problem amazing as amazing horse. If Ubuntu crashes while Firefox is open then Firefox on next start asks about restoring last session and offering what it can restore. I got 4 windows open when black display problem occured and i needed to do cold shutdown. On FF start i was asked about restoring 4 windows and 1st window tab list was expanded for view.
[02:54] <Kangarooo> I made it collapse and then i see it shows all 4 windows it will restore and all 4 are checked. Selected was still 1st window. I pressed restore session but it gave back only 1 window. To get back all 4 now i need file witch contains session with 4 windows.
[02:54] <Kangarooo> Now with file recovery programm "testdisk" I got 1 version back but it is not what I need. I need an older version of sessionstore.bak and sessionstore.js but testdisk shows me only 2 versions
[02:54] <Kangarooo> and they are not so old but i need older. im not using that computers SSD so file doesnt get overwritten.
[02:55] <Kangarooo> Any idea how to get older file version? on windows i used piriform Recuva and that get even files witch lost their location. Ubuntu Testdisk shows only thouse who still have location saved.
[02:56] <Kangarooo> maybe some other way i could make firefox open lost windows?
[02:56] <metaspike> coleix: does sudo jocky-gtk find it for you? if not, sudo aptitude install fglrx - if your video card is modern enough
[02:56] <jwp121> Doesn't firefox overwrite the file? (I have no clue, just a thoguht.)
[02:56] <osmosis> metaspike, that worked perfect, changed encrypted LVM pass.  thx.
[02:57] <coleix> i used the jocky option from additional drivers
[02:57] <jayar> how do i look at my ssh logs? or any port logs...
[02:58] <metaspike> Kangarooo: firefox safemode to get it straight?  - firefox -safemode
[02:58] <metaspike> * firefox -safe-mode
[02:59] <Kangarooo> metaspike, no that doesnt help getting back lost windows.
[02:59] <metaspike> jayar: traditionally  cat /var/log/syslog   ? not sure these days.
[03:00] <metaspike> you could  also ... cat /var/log/syslog
[03:00] <Barbariandude> DaZ, I have the patch-3.2 file in the root of my filesystem and ran "patch patch-3.2" in terminal and it doesn't seem to be doing anything
[03:00] <metaspike> cat /var/log/syslog | grep ssh    - for just ssh
[03:01] <coleix> i tried sudo apt-get install fglrx-update and started downloading something
[03:01] <metaspike> Kangarooo: it's probably running in the background, killall firefox-bin  or htopit i think ubuntu has something for it
[03:01] <coleix> not sure if it is newest version
[03:02] <metaspike> coleix: it will be but if your video card isn't supported ur going to start cussing soon :)
[03:02] <Barbariandude> Anybody know how I'm supposed to be patching my kernel?
[03:02] <coleix> when i restart? mine is an hd6950
[03:02] <urlin2u> Kangarooo, you might also try #firefox
[03:02] <metaspike> coleix: should be alright.
[03:02] <coleix> lol, let me restart to test it
[03:03] <metaspike> Kangarooo: if it's broken and running in the background, and you don't know how to kill it, just a reset shoudl work
[03:04] <metaspike> Barbariandude: from the patch directory... patch -p1 < /kernelsourcedirectory .
[03:05] <metaspike> and u should really have the patch in it's own subdirectory v_v
[03:05] <metaspike> like in /usr/src/
[03:07] <benbloom_> is there a good resource for finding the most compatible hardware for a custom built linux pc? are certain hw manufacturers more open source friendly than others? ie intel vs amd etc
[03:07] <coleix> well no crash, and now videos go to full screen without staying black but they still lag a bit, guess thats good enough for now
[03:08] <Kangarooo> benbloom_, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification
[03:08] <vassagus> why some people are so negative with unity?, i think its awesome, an a great innovation, finally a linux distro decide to inovate with gui.
[03:08] <Kangarooo> benbloom_, also google ur HW and word Ubuntu
[03:09] <Barbariandude> metaspike, ok, have the patch file in /usr/src and now I run "patch -p1 patch-3.2", right?
[03:09] <Kangarooo> vassagus, its slow and laggy and takes time to get things done
[03:09] <benbloom_> Kangarooo, thx. looking to build a pc from the ground up I think that's a good starting point
[03:09] <metaspike> benbloom_: http://www.linux-drivers.org/  - the best way to know for certain is to actually take a look at the kernel source with make menuconfig and search for the chipsets you will be using. yeah it's a hassle but there's nothing like it,
[03:10] <vassagus> Kangarooo do you think that fact can change with the next version?
[03:11] <metaspike> Barbariandude: the page i used to reference is gone :( lemme have a look
[03:11] <benbloom_> metaspike, that's pretty advanced for me i think. I'm going to try to unpack what you just suggested. if you have a tutorial or manpage you can point me to I'll read it
[03:12] <Kangarooo> no its known already that unity will be in 12.04 so im sticking wit 10.04 till maybe gnome 3 gets integrated. or ill just manually make unity off and gnome back.
[03:13] <Kangarooo> vassagus, if whole structure of its using isnt good. im using 10.04 LTS netbook remix on laptop netbook and desktop so i have menu in fullscreen and i love it.
[03:15] <Barbariandude> metaspike, well, that didn't do anything. The man page seems to indicate that I should specify the file to patch. Does that mean one of these linux-headers files?
[03:16] <Kangarooo> vassagus, this is best article about Unity and GNome http://www.linuxjournal.com/video/unity-3-rants-and-tip
[03:17] <vassagus> Kangarooo thanks for your opinion and info!, really apreciate it.
[03:17] <Kangarooo> np
[03:22] <lygen> hi
[03:22] <lygen> anyone on?
[03:23] <lygen> my ubuntu sowftware center isnt working
[03:23] <lygen> dunno why
[03:23] <lygen> i had to install xchat by terminal
[03:24] <yeats> lygen: what happens when you type 'software-center' in the terminal?
[03:26] <lygen> 2012-01-17 03:25:36,391 - softwarecenter.ui.gtk3.em - INFO - EM's: 17 15 21
[03:26] <lygen> Bus error
[03:26] <lygen> =/
[03:27] <LukeNukem> Hello, im confused i wnat to download ubuntu 64bit but it seems its for amd processors
[03:27] <LukeNukem> i have an intel processor :(
[03:27] <pksadiq> !amd64 | LukeNukem
[03:27] <bazhang> LukeNukem, no it's not. it will work with intel processors
[03:28] <LukeNukem> is there a torrent link on the site?
[03:28] <EvilResistance> LukeNukem:  amd64 is just the name of the architecture, its for both intel and amd processors though
[03:29] <EvilResistance> lolwhoops it was answered XD
[03:29] <metaspike> Barbariandude: this might help: http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/kernelpatch/
[03:29] <lygen> yeats: know any tip to fix that?
[03:29] <bazhang> !torrents | LukeNukem
[03:29] <Barbariandude> ooh, good to know. Torrents are awesome
[03:30] <metaspike> LukeNukem: amd64 is 64bit for intel and amd
[03:30] <metaspike> what he said :)
[03:30] <tobiasr33per> lols
[03:30] <yeats> lygen: you might search google/the Ubuntu forums for "software center bus error" - I'm afraid I don't know - sounds like a bug
[03:31] <lygen> i am cursed with bugs =S
[03:31] <lygen> last time was a kernel bug
[03:32] <lygen> i had to boot from older kernel till kernel got up dated, and now i have this -.-
[03:32] <metaspike> lygen: you could try. sudo dpkg-reconfigure software-centre . incase the settings have been borked or. sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-centre
[03:32] <lygen> thank you for your time anyway
[03:32] <metaspike> you should definately use the latest kernel or the latest -stable- LTS release of ubuntu
[03:32] <lygen> metaspike i'll try that... lets see
[03:33] <lygen> yes
[03:33] <lygen> now i have
[03:33] <lygen> the last one was the one that wasnt booting
[03:33] <metaspike> nice v_v why not?
[03:34] <metaspike> creepy crawly bugs!
[03:34] <lygen> dunno but i googled it and i found many ppl had the same bug
[03:34] <lygen> with that kernel
[03:35] <metaspike> this is why airplanes dont run ubuntu 11
[03:35] <lygen> lol
[03:35] <lygen> Updating software catalog...this may take a moment.
[03:35] <lygen> Software catalog update was successful.
[03:35] <lygen> lets see now
[03:36] <lygen> same error
[03:36] <lygen> =7
[03:39] <metaspike> lygen: can you:   software-centre | pastebinit   - and give us the link?
[03:40] <lygen> have to install pastebinit
[03:40] <lygen> jsut a sec
[03:41] <lygen> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[03:42] <lygen> is this suppose to happen?
[03:44] <trism> lygen: ~/.cache/software-center/software-center.log might have that info
[03:46] <user__> I'm in dire need of some assistance, is anyone here proficient enough to help?
[03:46] <lygen> trism what should i look for in that log??
[03:46] <underline_> I thought I'd ask here as I couldn't think where else to ask. How do I bind two executable files together, so they're both executed as if they were one program, when the "binded" program is made?
[03:47] <Nick30857> Hey is anyone available to help?
[03:48] <metaspike> lygen: sudo software-centre ?
[03:48] <metaspike> lygen: sudo software-center ?
[03:48] <Nick30857> having trouble locating my usb microphone in dev to load with julian
[03:48] <zykotick9> underline_: your question doesn't make a lot of sense.  You can't just combine 2 programs into one.  You could create a single script that launches both programs simultaniously i guess.
[03:48] <trism> lygen: I do not know, I only meant that it may contain the information that was requested for pastebin
[03:48] <Nick30857> no dsp is under /dev/
[03:49] <underline_> zykes-: You can.
[03:49] <underline_> zykotick9: You can.
[03:49] <cordoval> hi how can i turn unity zoom capabilities?
[03:49] <Nick30857> anyone?
[03:49] <cordoval> I turned some switch on but it said it did nto have shortcut
[03:49] <zykotick9> underline_: i see.  well, good luck with that.
[03:49] <cordoval> key set
[03:49] <cordoval> can someone please tell me?
[03:49] <lygen> metaspike: sudo software-center
[03:49] <trism> Nick30857: you could attempt running the program with padsp
[03:49] <lygen> got no error
[03:49] <underline_> zykotick9: Dumbass.
[03:49] <cordoval> I am impaired need big zooms
[03:50] <lygen> but no software-center up either =S
[03:50] <cordoval> of the whole screen
[03:50] <cordoval> not just one portion
[03:50] <Nick30857> trism: how do you mean? I'm attempting to run julian -input mic -C julian.jconf
[03:50] <Goosey124> underline_, Why do you ask for help, then call people who are trying to offer their knowledge a dumbass?
[03:50] <metaspike> lygen: huh, try creating a new user and running it from that. maybe your ~/ permissions are messed
[03:50] <trism> Nick30857: padsp julian -input mic -C julian.jconf;
[03:51] <underline_> Goosey124: Telling me it "can't be done" and then sarcastically telling me "good luck with that".
[03:51] <underline_> Goosey124: Doesn't sound like help to me.
[03:51] <metaspike> lygen: you could probably restore them with something like.  sudo chown -hR lygen:lygen /home/lygen  - assuming lygen is the user name, but there's a few assumptions being made with that. easier jsut to try a new user account.
[03:52] <Nick30857> trism: that appeared to work, it is currently awaiting input but it isn't detecting my voice through the microphone
[03:52] <metaspike> or reboot and try sudo software-centre again. i dunno. sounds messy :)
[03:52] <lygen> it is
[03:52] <Nick30857> trism: before all it would do was give me errors but this time it ran, however won't hear my voice
[03:52] <Goosey124> underline_, Well, there is no need to resort to insults. Also, the only way to "bind" two programs is to run a script with them.
[03:52] <lygen> or maybe just uninstalling and installing again software-center?
[03:53] <cordoval> someone please tell me how to set the desktop zoom shortcut keys
[03:53] <underline_> Goosey124: That's bullshit, and you shouldn't speak if you don't know what you're talking about.
[03:53] <metaspike> you have the best advice I can offer i'm afraid :p
[03:53] <overclucker> underline_: you can do that with a hex editor, if you can isolate the code segment you want run in the other elf binary
[03:53] <trism> Nick30857: I've never used julian before, so I don't really know. padsp redirects access to /dev/dsp but it doesn't always work
[03:54] <capleton> Hey, I need help.  I keep on trying to install ubuntu but its not working.   I always get to the point where I try to boot into ubuntu, but then it just hangs with a blinking underscore... when i try safe mode I get to a screen but my keyboard doesn't let me navigate it it at all... can anyone help?
[03:54] <Nick30857> trism: thank you, i'm going to continue tinkering now but i really appreciate your help to this point
[03:54] <Goosey124> underline_, If you're so sure, why are you asking here then? I personally have quite a bit of experience with computers and there are multiple people that have said the same thing.
[03:54] <lygen> metaspike: done many reboots since this started to happen..
[03:54] <underline_> overclucker: Yeah?
[03:54] <lygen> i think that isnt goin to help
[03:54] <lygen> in this case
[03:54] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | capleton
[03:55] <akem> anyone using nvidia + compiz found a way to fix the vsync issue?
[03:55] <underline_> overclucker: What do you mean by "code segment"? I want to have two independent programs in one executable.
[03:55] <akem> on Natty 11.04
[03:57] <cordoval> how to have zoom without compiz???
[03:57] <Goosey124> underline_, A code segment is the part of the binary that is executed, as apposed to the data segment. Theoretically speaking if the second program isn't meant to be run like that, it won't just work if you splice them together. Basically, since you're an asshole he's giving you asshole advice that "could" work.
[03:57] <capleton> thanks urlin2u, trying that now
[03:57] <capleton> nomodeset
[03:57] <pangolin> Goosey124: Please mind the language
[03:58] <urlin2u> capleton, cool hope that gets you in, update and upgrade the OS and look in additional drivers fro a graphic driver.
[03:58] <Goosey124> pangolin, Sure, I'm only returning the favor. I'll leave it out next time though.
[03:58] <urlin2u> for*
[03:59] <qrdoc> anyone know what fixes the lenovo fan issues?  my laptop keeps over heating
[03:59] <underline_> Goosey124: Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Here's a program that does what I want, I want to know how it works: http://www.file-joiner.com/
[03:59] <sl33p3rs> is there anyway for me to be able to convert a program code to run with linux?
[03:59] <flowerpot> sl33p3rs, if by "program" you mean a binary file, then no
[03:59] <yabai>  sl33p3rs anything is possible :-_
[03:59] <The-L33T> Yo
[03:59] <Nick30857> sl33p3rs: going to need to be more specific
[04:00] <DaZ> wine almost works, if it's windows software :f
[04:00] <lwizardl> whats a good download manager that works with mediafire for Ubuntu ?
[04:00] <sl33p3rs> im looking to make a yume nikki fan game which requires a program called RPGmaker but there are no packages for linux. how would one go about getting started on porting it?
[04:00] <Goosey124> underline_,  What do you think that is? It's probably a single executable that is made to run whatever files you add to it. That's not what you were asking for. The program was abstracted so that it seems like that's it's effect, ie a black box. I'm not wrong.
[04:00] <cordoval> anyone on zooming capabilities of ubuntu 11.10?
[04:00] <underline_> Goosey124: No, that's not what it is.
[04:00] <The-L33T> I <3 Ubuntu
[04:01] <NonickHolden> What the hell is an Ubuntu.
[04:01] <The-L33T> What the hell is a book?
[04:01] <underline_> Goosey124: It combines many executables into one executable, a stand-alone executable.
[04:01] <NonickHolden> Oh, cool.
[04:01] <NonickHolden> Gunna go fuck off to another channel then.
[04:01] <NonickHolden> Peace niggers.
[04:01] <The-L33T> :0
[04:01] <Nick30857> RPGmaker on ubuntu?
[04:02] <sl33p3rs> BAN HAMMER!
[04:02] <bburhans> sl33p3rs: you're not helping.
[04:02] <The-L33T> lolll
[04:02] <The-L33T> Wonderful weather we are having eh?
[04:02] <Goosey124> underline_, And that doesn't negate anything that I said...Think of it this way. You have 3 files, then you have this file joiner. It takes those 3 files, places them into it's binary, albeit their completely separate. The original code simply makes a jump to whichever program depending on how the file-joiner works. I.E if the original program allows you to select run all, then it makes threads and runs each program in a thread.
[04:02] <multipass> for ubuntu server, im trying to make a SMB share that connects to another computer, but im having permission problems i think-- is "valid users" the windows users or ubuntu user?
[04:03] <MrPocketz> I tried to install splashy, but it failed. Not i can't install anything. Any apt-get install results in a "Unmet dependencies. try apt-get -f install with no packages"
[04:03] <sl33p3rs> Nick30857: that is what i desire but it doesnt exist. so i need knowledge on porting.
[04:03] <Goosey124> underline_, Effectively, it's exactly the same as a bash script. However all they did was convert that script's logic to a executable by means of a more powerful compiled language.
[04:03] <underline_> Goosey124: Yes, but then that executable can be distributed without any other things (i.e. it's "stand-alone"). I was asking how to do this.
[04:03] <underline_> Goosey124: No.
[04:04] <underline_> Goosey124: A bash script relies on the individual files being present, it cannot be "stand-alone".
[04:04] <DaZ> sl33p3rs: you can't really do that without the sourcecode.
[04:04] <Goosey124> underline_, Note I said, LOGIC, not the bash script itself.
[04:04] <sl33p3rs> DaZ: im rather new and uneducated so i will now go find that.
[04:04] <The-L33T> I tried to install Konservation but it had an Internet fail, but strangely I can install other programs :L
[04:05] <underline_> Goosey124: Uh-huh. Not quite. Regardless, that's what I want to do, do you have any idea how I can do it?
[04:06] <The-L33T> Meep
[04:06] <capleton> how do you remove a repo from apt?
[04:06] <flowerpot> capleton, probably modify sources.lst
[04:06] <The-L33T> Who is using an OS besides Ubuntu 11.04
[04:07] <pangolin> !ot | The-L33T
[04:07] <flowerpot> capleton, sorry- meant sources.list - check man sources.list
[04:07] <capleton> flowerpot: it's not in etc/apt/sources.list
[04:07] <Goosey124> underline_, If it's your own source programs, it's as simple as writing another source file that takes the other files as includes then having that file perform whatever necessary functions with them. However if it's pre-compiled source  I'm afraid I don't know of any linux program and writing one would probably be out of your league.
[04:07] <capleton> flowerpot: i didn't see it in there
[04:07] <cordoval> please help trying to set the non compiz unity zooming feature
[04:07] <cordoval> how to?
[04:08] <underline_> Goosey124:  So you don't know?
[04:08] <zykotick9> capleton: check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ (i believe)
[04:08] <flowerpot> capleton, check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[04:08] <Goosey124> underline_, More like, I'm too lazy to help you.
[04:08] <The-L33T> oh this is the SUPPORT channel? I'd better leave
[04:08] <overclucker> underline_: that was probably the best answer you will get
[04:08] <sl33p3rs> well scratch this i should sleep i have work in the morning.
[04:08] <underline_> Goosey124: No, I don't think you know.
[04:08] <capleton> There it is.  Thanks flowerpot  and zykotick9
[04:09] <capleton> oof, okay so W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
[04:09] <capleton> then a bunch of numbers
[04:09] <capleton> :<
[04:10] <Goosey124> underline_, I just gave you the theory behind it, obviously I know. However I wouldn't spend an hour writing a program for you. I also won't spend an hour googling a method.
[04:11] <underline_> Goosey124: You first said it couldn't be done, then when I showed you it could be done had a sudden change of heart.
[04:11] <Goosey124> underline_, What you asked for couldn't be done, this can be.
[04:11] <Inzi> hey
[04:11] <aeon-ltd> hi
[04:11] <Goosey124> underline_, Well, not so much couldn't be done, but couldn't be done reasonably enough to tell you.
[04:12] <capleton> anyone know how to fix GPG errors like the one above?
[04:13] <underline_> Goosey124: I asked to combine multiple executables into one executable.
[04:13] <Goosey124> underline_, However, this is different than just 2 programs sitting in the same executable. There was a third party involved which executed them, you didn't mention this orgininally, you only mentioned you wanted 2 programs bound together.
[04:13] <underline_> Goosey124: This can be done.
[04:13] <Inzi> does anyone know where i could download the xubuntu restrictd extras offline? my pc at home has no internet
[04:13] <pangolin> Inzi: packages.ubuntu.com should have it
[04:13] <Goosey124> underline_, I mean literally speaking, you can bind two programs together without a third-party to execute them, but the resulting executable would probably be useless.
[04:14] <underline_> Goosey124: You probably have problems understanding people.
[04:15] <Goosey124> underline_, When you ask for computer help, you should understand that it's technical and these literal languages. So if you don't define yourself properly, I won't understand you. It seems to me that you actually have problems conveying your thoughts.
[04:15] <underline_> Goosey124: I defined myself fine.
[04:15] <pangolin> underline_ , Goosey124 can you both just drop it. :)
[04:16] <pangolin> or take it to PM
[04:16] <Inzi> thanks pangolin
[04:16] <Goosey124> pangolin, But it's so fun D:
[04:16] <pangolin> Inzi: welcome
[04:16] <pangolin> Goosey124: I understand but not suitable for this channel
[04:16] <azriel> audacious crashes as soon as i turn it on
[04:17] <azriel> it isn't giving me an error in terminal or anything
[04:17] <Goosey124> pangolin, xD Alright, my bad.
[04:17] <zykotick9> azriel: try starting it from a terminal, see if you get output... doh
[04:17] <pangolin> Goosey124: thanks :)
[04:17] <azriel> i type in audacious and it just goes to the next line as if i hit enter
[04:18] <j_dulaney1> What's the casual channel?
[04:18] <pangolin> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:18] <j_dulaney1> Merci
[04:20] <azriel> how do i remove a package and everything?
[04:20] <azriel> purge remove or somthing like that?
[04:20] <pangolin> sudo apt-get purge -remove package
[04:20] <azriel> thanks
[04:21] <zykotick9> pangolin: "apt-get purge .." are you sure about that?  I though only aptitude had a purge option.  I though it was "apt-get remove --purge foo"
[04:21] <azriel> command line option 'r' [from -remove] is not known
[04:21] <pangolin> zykotick9: right
[04:21] <pangolin> azriel: apt-get remove --purge foo as zykotick9 pointed out
[04:21] <azriel> already on it
[04:22] <pangolin> zykotick9: This is why we do support in the channel and not PM :)
[04:23] <EvilResistance> pangolin:  hehe
[04:23] <trism> apt-get has purge too
[04:23] <azriel> ok trying it again
[04:23] <trism> apt-get purge foo
[04:24] <pangolin> trism: that would also uninstall the package?
[04:24] <trism> pangolin: yes
[04:24] <azriel> its still not working
[04:24] <pangolin> ah, that is where I got confused
[04:25] <oldude67> where the heck do you edit grub at, i have gotten no google fu today.
[04:25] <pangolin> Ass_KoB: if you don't mind could you please change your nick to something more family friendly?
[04:25] <pangolin> !grub2
[04:25] <zykotick9> oldude67: /etc/default/grub has some of the main options
[04:26] <oldude67> zykotick9, ty
[04:26] <zykotick9> oldude67: don't forget "sudo grub-update" after you make any changes
[04:26] <oldude67> yeah or ill have to do it again..i know..lol
[04:27] <cyclicflux> Does anyone know of an api or program that is able to extract graphical(pixel-based)text from a *.pdf v.1.4 file.
[04:27] <RokcStar> k
[04:28] <oldude67> zykotick9, sudo grub-update isnt it.command not found ????
[04:28] <pangolin> update-grub
[04:29] <zykotick9> oldude67: sorry my mistake
[04:29] <pangolin> zykotick9: tied.
[04:29] <zykotick9> pangolin: why not in PM ;)
[04:29] <oldude67> its just update-grub
[04:29] <pangolin> oldude67: should require sudo to run unless you recently used sudo
[04:30] <oldude67> pangolin, yeah it does its just not grub-update but update-grub
[04:30] <pangolin> oldude67: right.
[04:30] <goddard> anyone know if routers support usb hubs?
[04:30] <pangolin> goddard: ##harware might
[04:31] <pangolin> ##hardware sorry
[04:31] <oldude67> but zykotick9 and pangolin thanks anyway, got where i needed to be.
[04:31] <wagle> hi.. i hit control middle mouse on my ubuntu 10.04 system, and its zoomed way in.. how to i return to normal?
[04:32] <oldude67> wagle, scroll backwards
[04:32] <pangolin> wagle: ctrl and scroll back/down
[04:33] <wagle> tried that, no go
[04:33] <pangolin> wagle: try with alt
[04:33] <goddard> alright
[04:34] <wagle> tried it harder this time 8)..  it worked..  with the alt
[04:34] <wagle> thought i'd tried that several times..  oh well..  thanks!
[04:34] <cayou99> Hi, I installed xorg 1.11 in ubuntu 11.10 64 bit, but I still can't start X. Here is my log :  http://paste.debian.net/152540/  Anyone has any idea?
[04:35] <Tucks> what's up my brothers and sisters?  what are we talkin' 'bout tonight?
[04:36] <pangolin> Tucks: ubuntu support
[04:37] <oscar76> hi good night
[04:37] <Tucks> yessiree!  this is the time and place for support!  =)  is there anybody I can help out before I ask my question?
[04:38] <pangolin> Tucks: just ask your question and when someone needs help they will ask.
[04:39] <Tucks> pangolin:  Lol.  I like to see if I can help somebody first as a courtesy before I blab all my problems in the channel.
[04:40] <Tucks> but okay.
[04:42] <Tucks> Ubuntu is giving me some oddities with the startup screen: it's fine and it works, but the font looks fatter than it's supposed to be.
[04:42] <Tucks> pangolin:  I'll brb.  I can't find them on my computer; i think they're on my SD card
[04:43] <capleton> I have a geforce 210... do i need nvidia-current, nvidia-173, or nvidia-96?
[04:43] <linuxstudent> hello people
[04:43] <DaZ> capleton: current
[04:43] <linuxstudent> i need a little help compiling the kernel
[04:44] <capleton> Thanks DaZ
[04:44] <linuxstudent> is an university work
[04:44] <linuxstudent> i need compile the kernel
[04:44] <matthew_> Hi, I did an install of 'libjava-gnome-java', which are gtk bindings for java, but I don't know where the .jar is
[04:44] <matthew_> could someone help me find it?
[04:45] <linuxstudent> but also do some effects
[04:45] <matthew_> specifically an install with apt-get
[04:45] <pangolin> linuxstudent: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[04:45] <linuxstudent> like display image on top and background
[04:45] <linuxstudent> yeah but also i need yeah but also i need add some cool effects
[04:45] <Tucks> i wish the #ubuntu-devel channel was active right now....  My LUG told me those guys would know how to fix Ubuntu's startup screen.
[04:46] <Tucks> like compiz?
[04:46] <Riberty> can anyone recommend me a linux friendl tv tuner?
[04:46] <pangolin> !hcl
[04:46] <linuxstudent> yeah but also i need add to yeah but also i need add some cool effects
[04:46] <trism> matthew_: dpkg -L libjava-gnome-java; will tell you where things are installed, seems to be in /usr/share/java/
[04:46] <linuxstudent> change terminal color
[04:46] <Ublunttu> Tucks: whats wrong with your boot splash
[04:47] <matthew_> trism: you are the greatest
[04:48] <metaspike> linuxstudent, sudo apt-get install linux-source - cd /usr/src/linux-source-3.X - make menuconfig - fakeroot make-kpkg - dpkg -i ../myshinynewkernel.deb
[04:48] <Tucks> trying to find pics.... one moment please. :)
[04:49] <linuxstudent> metaspike: looks interesting
[04:49] <mcgrete> I am using Lucid; have Python 2.7 installed as alternative version (need multi-threading capability). Have a problem trying to install wx specifically for Python2.7. pip and easy_install are not used to install wx. I installed with Synaptic, but it installs for 2.6 by default. Can I create some symbolic links to use wx installed for 2.6? If so, can you guide me through it?
[04:50] <Tucks> Ublunttu:  Is the website we use to post our pics called "imagebin"?  i've got a brainfart, and i can't remember at the moment.
[04:51] <EvilResistance> !imagebin | Tucks
[04:51] <linuxstudent> i think you don't understand i need add some cool effectos to kernel compile ,  for example adding some prints in boot
[04:51] <linuxstudent> and change the defualt image on boot
[04:51] <Tucks> thanks.  i'm doing that right now.  my boot splash is weirdr
[04:51] <linuxstudent> and change the backgound
[04:51] <linuxstudent> etc
[04:51] <auk> Is there a default list for OWNERSHIP of files & directory?          I accidently sudo chown test:test -R /
[04:52] <EvilResistance> linuxstudent:  and you need to do that from... the kernel...?
[04:52] <auk> -.-
[04:52] <linuxstudent> everything in compilation
[04:52] <linuxstudent> yes
[04:52] <Cabr0n> Hi
[04:52] <Diyar> After burned Ubuntu on CD not show option " Live " just install? also in USB after burn on USB when try choose live is not working ??
[04:52] <linuxstudent> add every kind of cool effects
[04:52] <EvilResistance> linuxstudent:  why?  in Ubuntu, the boot image(s) you see start out form the BIOS and then the OS (i.e. your system manufacturer's screen, and then the Ubuntu loader screen)...
[04:53] <EvilResistance> linuxstudent:  you can easily display kernel messages by editing the default grub stuff...
[04:53] <EvilResistance> linuxstudent:  unless you're not using Ubuntu
[04:53] <EvilResistance> in which case you need ##Linux
[04:53] <linuxstudent> there is a image in the console loading
[04:53] <linuxstudent> is a tux
[04:53] <linuxstudent> up
[04:53] <symptom> has that bug where gnome randomly dims regardless of power manager settings been figured out yet?
[04:53] <linuxstudent> i want change that tux and add mi own image
[04:54] <linuxstudent> second
[04:54] <mcgrete> Diyar - some USB drives won't work.  Stick to CD.  I believe you need to hit a key on bootup with LiveCD to get menu with options to Try Ubuntu 1st, or Install Ubuntu.
[04:54] <linuxstudent> i need put some printf in boot loading
[04:54] <linuxstudent> so that ways put my owns prints in kernel loading
[04:54] <linuxstudent> that kind of stuff
[04:54] <Flizzop> hi
[04:55] <linuxstudent> just cosmetic changes
[04:55] <goddard> im trying to get my wireless card working with 5ghz wireless connections
[04:55] <goddard> anyone got experience getting this working?
[04:55] <metaspike> linuxstudent, if you want to change things like that - in the kernel - first you need to know the basic howto which i've described
[04:56] <mcgrete> goddard - what is the issue?  I found I didn't have proper drivers.  Try updating drivers with wired connection, then setup wireless connection.
[04:56] <metaspike> then you can go into the source and change whatever you want
[04:56] <Flizzop> I'm having an issue, I just go ubuntu 11.10 installed on my machine, but wifi firmware wont update
[04:56] <Tucks> Alright y'all, here is the first picture from imagebin: (http://imagebin.org/194028).  I didn't know whether or not you could do a screenshot on startup/boot, so I had to take a camera photo of it.  As you can see from the photo, the splash screen behaves properly on a Live CD.
[04:56] <Flizzop> i have a broadcom 4311
[04:56] <Flizzop> i am new on ubuntu
[04:57] <Flizzop> i barely figured out how to install stuff in the terminal hha
[04:57] <Flizzop> i have tried many tutorials online
[04:57] <linuxstudent> i'm allready compile the kernel and i know C programing and that kind of things. i know that but i need find some codes , tutorials or anything that guide me to do that kind of changes
[04:57] <mcgrete> Flizzop - Connect with actual wired connection.  Will that work?
[04:57] <Flizzop> reinstalling bcwml
[04:57] <Flizzop> and then updating drivers
[04:57] <Flizzop> i am on a wired connection
[04:57] <Flizzop> and it still says firmware missing
[04:58] <Tucks> Flizzop, have you tried here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1653157
[04:58] <Flizzop> i will check it out, thanks
[04:58] <Flizzop> also, how do i access administration and system in 11.10?
[04:59] <mcgrete> Does anyone have experience with installing python wx to an alternate python installation?
[04:59] <Tucks> Like administrative permissions?
[04:59] <Flizzop> yea
[04:59] <Flizzop> or
[04:59] <Tucks> okay, i can help you with that.
[04:59] <Flizzop> idk in one tutorial it said to go to adminstrative under system settings
[04:59] <linuxstudent> any ?
[04:59] <linuxstudent> :(
[04:59] <Flizzop> but it wasnt there
[04:59] <Flizzop> apparently they took some stuff out in 11.10
[05:00] <Flizzop> or moved stuff
[05:00] <Tucks> Oh you mean User Accounts to change your user account's permissions level?  Like from a Standard user to an Administrative user?
[05:01] <Flizzop> ohhh no, umm
[05:01] <Flizzop> one second
[05:01] <Tucks> k, np.
[05:01] <Diyar> mcgrete: I want work liveCD also not show option live just install ??????????
[05:01] <whoppergator> linuxstudent: try googling before you ask us for something easy to find. that said: http://www.articleworld.org/index.php/How_to_change_the_Linux_penguin_boot_logo
[05:01] <urlin2u> Diyar, you have a link to the download of the ISO?
[05:02] <mcgrete> linuxstudent - I know how to create a symbolic link, which I wish to attempt to use the wx module that is installed for Python2.6, but use with Python2.7.  Any knowledge on this.  Is it a single link, to what, or more than one?
[05:02] <rationalrn> where can i get help with my graphically corrupt Gnome3 it used to work and was beautiful.  I so would like it back.  All Listed bugs and there are thousands summited have nooo many dofferent variables that caused it.   one quick fix.  t
[05:02] <Tucks> i'd seed the ISO, but my upload speed sucks. ^^
[05:02] <Diyar> urlin2u: I downloaded from ubuntu.com
[05:02] <Tucks> rationalrn:  are you using Mint12?
[05:02] <urlin2u> Diyar, live cd pr alternate?
[05:03] <urlin2u> or
[05:03] <mcgrete> Diyar - Have you considered that your CD is bad, or ISO is corrupted.  Consider redownloading ISO, then burn new CD.
[05:03] <Tucks> Lol.  Always get the Live ISO.  ^^
[05:03] <Flizzop> hmm the tutorial you sent me seems to be for atheros and maverick cards.. :/
[05:03] <Flizzop> i have a broadcom
[05:03] <rationalrn> tucks: I am using Oneric Unity
[05:03] <linuxstudent> i search dude but there is a little documentation and not very explicit
[05:04] <linuxstudent> thank that you send can help
[05:04] <Diyar> urlin2u: mcgrete  give me link to re-download it by torrent with work by USB or LiveCD
[05:04] <linuxstudent> now i need add some printf in kernel
[05:04] <rationalrn> Ironically I used GNOME3  to fix a compiz messup I did and was unable to log back into unity until it was fixed
[05:04] <urlin2u> !broadcom> Flizzop
[05:04] <Ublunttu> unity is terrible ;\
[05:05] <urlin2u> Diyar, cool.
[05:05] <Tucks> rationalrn:  oh. hmm... then I'm not sure.  I tried Mint12 several weeks ago with Gnome 3 and that thing was as buggy and crashy as ever.  I had to revert to Classic Gnome, but that was boring so I did a clean reinstall of Ubuntu 11.10.
[05:05] <mcgrete> Diyar - http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[05:06] <Flizzop> i followed ubottu's link and did the steps already for the broadcom issues
[05:06] <Flizzop> it didn't work
[05:06] <Flizzop> haha
[05:06] <Tucks> Lol.  I'm probably the only one here who actually loves Unity.  XD  It's slow right now, but we'll see about 12.04.  Maybe the fixes will make it not so resource hungry.
[05:06] <rationalrn> another good example of to many different variables of one problem, so makes troubleshooting hard
[05:06] <Ublunttu> it will still suck though
[05:06] <Tucks> Flizzop:  Lol.  Sheesh.
[05:06] <Diyar> mcgrete: http://releases.ubuntu.com//oneiric/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso << is this one will work live?
[05:06] <Flizzop> everytime I try to update my broadcom driver it tells me to find a log
[05:06] <Flizzop> in some folder
[05:06] <Flizzop> indicating it failed
[05:06] <whoppergator> linuxstudent: what are you trying to do? maybe you answered that before i logged in, but what problem are you trying to solve?
[05:07] <Tucks> Diyar, that one is for 32-bit operating systems.  Do you have 32-bit or 64-bit?
[05:07] <mcgrete> Diyar - do you have 32 bit or 64 bit?  i386 is for 32bit; so looks good
[05:07] <Diyar> 32 bix
[05:07] <Tucks> If you don't have an AMD processor, go with the link just posted above ya.
[05:07] <Ublunttu> Tucks: amd64 is for any 64
[05:08] <rationalrn> i do have amd
[05:08] <mcgrete> Diyar - you will need a 720MB CD for it to fit
[05:08] <Diyar> I want work LiveCD << because this my issue
[05:08] <linuxstudent> i need costumize a kernel to display some visual changes in booting
[05:08] <Diyar> bit*
[05:08] <linuxstudent> like personalized printf messages
[05:08] <Diyar> mcgrete: ok ok thanks
[05:08] <linuxstudent> costum logo
[05:08]  * Kardos always personalises his printf messages
[05:08] <linuxstudent> console background
[05:08] <Tucks> Ublunttu:  Yeah, but Diyar needs i386 because he's only got 32-bit
[05:08] <linuxstudent> etc
[05:08] <Ublunttu> Tucks: yes I know...
[05:08] <whoppergator> linuxstudent: is this a purely cosmetic goal?
[05:08] <Flizzop> print('Hi there friend :D ')
[05:08] <Flizzop> hahah
[05:08] <linuxstudent> exactly
[05:09] <Ublunttu> Tucks: was just educating you about what amd64 meant since you clearly did not know ;-)
[05:09] <Tucks> Ublunttu:  also, I just read my message. lol
[05:09] <mcgrete> Diyar - instructions for downloading and burning are on the website.  I recommend that you burn LIVE CD, and if you then wish to install onto USB - do it from the LIVE CD.  Boot with LIVE CD (try ubuntu, not install).  After booting with LIVE CD, then you can partition USB drive and install ubuntu
[05:09] <Tucks> <---- Derp moment.  XD
[05:09] <linuxstudent> that is kind of info i need
[05:09] <Diyar> other question : what is this ? https://offers.canonical.com/ubuntu-cloud-jumpstart.html
[05:10] <mcgrete> Diyar - I don't know about it...
[05:10] <Ublunttu> Tucks: if you ask me ubuntu should drop calling it 'amd64' and just call it '64-bit' or something. it confuses alot of people actually.
[05:10] <metaspike> adios amigos! TRUTH STRENGTH AND HONOR
[05:10] <Flizzop> i have an amd64 processor but i have a 32bit computer hahaha
[05:11] <Diyar> mcgrete: I know about but this version with me not show LiveCD so I will re download it ....
[05:11] <Tucks> Ublunttu:  Oh yeah man, i totally agree!  It makes people think, "Oh, I don't have AMD.  Looks like i can only use the 32-bit version."  psh
[05:11] <Ben64> Flizzop: if you have an amd64 processor, then you have a 64 bit computer
[05:11] <Ublunttu> Flizzop: which processor exactly ?
[05:11] <Goosey124> Flizzop, dafuq? You mean a 32-bit OS?
[05:11] <Flizzop> amd64 athlon x2
[05:11] <Flizzop> i dont even know :b
[05:11] <fredrik_> can anyone here help me get freeorion to run on ubuntu 10.10 64bit? I need a slow step-by-step for dummies.
[05:11] <Goosey124> Lol
[05:11] <Ben64> Tucks: its the same thing as i386
[05:11] <Tucks> Yeah, Goosey124 would be right on that.  XD
[05:11] <Flizzop> i'm sort of technologically illeterate
[05:11] <mcgrete> Diyar - make sure your BIOS is setup to boot from your CD first
[05:11] <Flizzop> sorry :3
[05:12] <Diyar> What different between this version : ubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent with this version : ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent ?
[05:12] <Flizzop> illiterate***
[05:12] <Flizzop> hahaha
[05:12] <Diyar> mcgrete:  Thanks .. I know ;-)
[05:12] <Ublunttu> Flizzop: that is a 64-bit processor bro..
[05:12] <Ben64> Diyar: alternate vs livecd
[05:12] <Tucks> Ben64:  I derped it again!
[05:12] <linuxstudent> there is almost nothing information about that
[05:12] <Flizzop> ohhh I did buy it second hand, it came with windows vista 32  bit
[05:12] <mcgrete> Diyar -good luck.  Signing off
[05:12] <Flizzop> maybe thats what confused me
[05:12] <fredrik_> errr...how do i know when someone here i talking to me?
[05:12] <Hasselsaurus> gah, the Linux WM situation is a disaster altogether right now
[05:12] <Hasselsaurus> hopefully things get better soon
[05:13] <Flizzop> fredrik_: it will show up in red, like this
[05:13] <Ublunttu> Flizzop: well according to the website it has the cpu features of... MMX, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, AMD64, Cool'n'Quiet, NX Bit             see AMD64
[05:13] <Ben64> fredrik_: they'll usually say your name at the beginning of a line, like this one
[05:13] <Diyar> Ben64: so for that live not work because I download first one ubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent :-|
[05:13] <fredrik_> oh, ok thanks.
[05:13] <urlin2u> fredrik_,
[05:13] <almoxarife> Diyar: alternate will provide more configuration options at install
[05:13] <Ben64> Diyar: alternate is a text based installer
[05:13] <Tucks> fredrik_ you type the other chatter's name.  :)
[05:13] <fredrik_> so does anyone here know how to get freeorion to work?
[05:13] <Flizzop> Ublunttu: So.. that's good right?
[05:13] <fredrik_> its such a pain in the ass for a newbie..
[05:14] <Diyar> ok ok thanks guys
[05:14] <Tucks> Ben64:  Like Terminal-command-line??
[05:14] <whoppergator> linuxstudent: what you should do is look up how to silent boot in the kernel, then use a graphical boot to display whatever you want.
[05:14] <Ublunttu> Flizzop: yea. you should use 64-bit ubuntu
[05:14] <Ben64> Tucks: what?
[05:14] <Tucks> fredrik_:  LOL!  I get that feeling a lot.  XD
[05:14] <Flizzop> Ublunttu: o,o uhh crap, well reinstalling all of this would be such a pain....
[05:14] <Ublunttu> Flizzop: it would be alot faster machine though...
[05:15] <linuxstudent> i'll try but the class goal is change or add code
[05:15] <Tucks> Ben64:  Oh, you said "text based installer" and I thought command line interface only.  haha
[05:15] <whoppergator> linuxstudent: in other words, you should not touch the kernel for cosmetic reasons...
[05:15] <fredrik_> Another thing that would be helpfull is if i could figure out how to not make the terminal window close immediately when stuff don't work....i want to read the error-messages at least.
[05:15] <Ben64> Tucks: no, its just not graphical, better for lower performance computers
[05:15] <linuxguy101> hey where is the firewall program in ubuntu 11.11
[05:15] <Flizzop> Ublunttu: I know but the hours ive took to get this one to even work
[05:15] <linuxguy101> ??
[05:15] <Ublunttu> linuxstudent: if you want to mess with the kernel alot you should use gentoo bro......
[05:15] <Flizzop> Ublunttu: I had to mess with the partitioning of my HDD
[05:15] <Ben64> linuxguy101: iptables
[05:16] <linuxstudent> yes you'r right but is just for academic reasons
[05:16] <Ublunttu> Flizzop: whatever bro your loss
[05:16] <linuxstudent> nothing serius
[05:16] <linuxguy101> and how do you set root password?
[05:16] <Ublunttu> you don't
[05:16] <linuxstudent> i'll never do that in my own kernel
[05:16] <Ublunttu> you use sudo su
[05:16] <Ben64> you don't need a root password
[05:16] <linuxguy101> Ublunttu: who owns root then?
[05:17] <Ublunttu> root pass is scrambled
[05:17] <Tucks> Ben64:  OH oh oh ohhh.  gotcha, gotcha.  One distro i tried using on a Live CD, it only gave me a CLI instead of a GUI!  Thank you, Crl+Alt_Delete!
[05:17] <Flizzop> Ublunttu: just out of curiousity, this does mean that my processor is only working half as hard right?
[05:17] <Ublunttu> you can get super user access with sudo
[05:17] <linuxguy101> Ublunttu: but who has that password?
[05:17] <urlin2u> !sudo> linuxguy101
[05:17] <Ublunttu> Flizzop: sort-of not exactly it means you are limited to like 3 or 4 gigs of ram I forget. unless you are using a 32-bit PAE kernel.
[05:17] <Ublunttu> Flizzop: but yes 64-bit *might* be twice as fast idk never used 32-bit in a long time
[05:18] <Tucks> Type in:  "sudo su -l" into the terminal. That'll give you root access to your filesystem.
[05:18] <linuxguy101> so root is actually locked out to everyone but the local user?
[05:18] <Ublunttu> Tucks: you don't need the -l
[05:18] <linuxguy101> or is it open to the outside?
[05:18] <Ublunttu> users in /etc/passwd
[05:18] <Flizzop> Ublunttu: I only have like 1 stick of ram anyhow.. I know, i know it sucks, I'm sort of using this as a temporary computer, till i can afford a better one
[05:18] <Ublunttu> with sudo acess
[05:19] <Ublunttu> Flizzop: well if you only got 1 gig of ram then nothing will make it that much faster haha
[05:19] <linuxguy101> say i install ubuntu on another system on my network, can i log into it remotely and install software on it?
[05:19] <froek> is there a good KVM web-based interface?
[05:19] <Flizzop> Ublunttu: okay thanks, hahah
[05:19] <Tucks> Ublunttu:  Really?  haha, that's funny.  I'm studying my BaSH commands from a library text book I got.  It's called the "Linux Bible: 2008 Edition."  that's one helluva book.
[05:19] <Ben64> linuxguy101: you'd want to use sudo whenever you need root access for something
[05:19] <Chakravanti> linuxguy101, ssh
[05:19] <Ublunttu> Tucks: sudo su works fine for me always has
[05:19] <linuxguy101> so anyone with ssh can install software remotely on ubuntu?
[05:19] <whoppergator> linuxstudent: okay then, all disclaimers aside, feel free to modify the kernel source and print a message, but this channel is for ubuntu support, not kernel hacking
[05:20] <Ben64> linuxguy101: would need sudo access
[05:20] <Ublunttu> Tucks: Oh I see sudo su -l doesn't eveb ask me for a password. nice tip
[05:20] <linuxguy101> Ben64: who gets sudo access to the system?
[05:20] <Chakravanti> if you enable remote access and they have the un/pw of an admin group member
[05:20] <Ben64> linuxguy101: anyone in the admin group
[05:20] <Ublunttu> linuxguy101: I told you
[05:20] <fredrik_> join #grasshoppers
[05:20] <fredrik_> nope that didnt work...
[05:20] <Tucks> Ublunttu:  Thanks!  That'll save me from reaching over to the "-" button with my pinky finger. hahah
[05:20] <Ublunttu> users in /etc/passwd with sudo acess
[05:20] <linuxguy101> is it defaulted as the first installer of the software?
[05:21] <urlin2u> fredrik_, "/join
[05:21] <Ublunttu> what?
[05:21] <Tucks> lol, then belay my last message.  XD
[05:21] <tigrang> how do I show the pull directory im currently in in a terminal
[05:21] <Ublunttu> does anyone have any real questions lol
[05:21] <Tucks> OH OH!  I knows~!
[05:21] <almoxarife> belay your last, aye
[05:21] <tigrang> Ublunttu, you can answer mine :P
[05:21] <Tucks> type in "pwd"
[05:21] <Ublunttu> tigrang: pull directory? current directory pwd
[05:22] <Tucks> that'll show you your present working directory
[05:22] <linuxguy101> i am just doing a security test on ubuntu 11.11 to see how secure it is from the first install
[05:22] <Tucks> to change it, type: "cd /what/ever/directory/you/want/here"
[05:22] <Ublunttu> linuxguy101: why ? it's as secure as your network is
[05:23] <linuxguy101> Ublunttu: that is a lame asnser
[05:23] <tigrang> thanks :)
[05:23] <Ublunttu> no... it's the truth if you are talking about internet attacks
[05:23] <Ublunttu> linux needs no AV and has built in F/W
[05:23] <Ublunttu> so if you open no ports / have no ports open on your router then you *should* be fine
[05:24] <linuxguy101> Ublunttu: windows coders have that kind of answer
[05:24] <Ublunttu> no.. they don't actually
[05:24] <Tucks> I heard that grsecurity is an awesome thing to put into the kernel for super-steroid enhanced security for your LInux OS.  A LUG member of mine told me about it.
[05:24] <Chakravanti> Ublunttu, windows marketers do
[05:24] <Ublunttu> why are we talking about windows
[05:25] <Ublunttu> im talking about linux...
[05:25] <Ublunttu> windows sucks and costs $$
[05:25] <Tucks> Windows sucks, Linux is ftw.
[05:25] <Ublunttu> and is likely to be hacked
[05:25] <tigrang> YEA bash windows
[05:25] <Chakravanti> which is why they need marketing
[05:25] <Ublunttu> even after all updates
[05:25] <Tucks> lol
[05:26] <Ublunttu> most insecure part about linux? the user and maybe JAVA cause java sucks
[05:26] <Chakravanti> no
[05:26] <Chakravanti> flash is worse than java
[05:26] <tigrang> Ublunttu, every update on windows is "Vulnerability that lets remote attacker take control.."
[05:26] <Ublunttu> chyeaahhhhh
[05:26] <Ublunttu> flash is garbage too correct
[05:26] <[deXter]> Java rocks, Oracle sucks
[05:26] <Ublunttu> c++ ftw
[05:26] <Tucks> tigrang ::  Join me and fight the "machine"!
[05:26] <atruno> in todays economy people are losing their homes.
[05:26] <Chakravanti> when OS wars go stale we get down to the nuts n bolts of langwars
[05:26] <Ublunttu> atruno: uhh... ok?
[05:27] <Tucks> we'll start an anarchy party in Redmond, WA.  haha
[05:27] <Ublunttu> I type with no regard for grammar on the internet as it is not a graded assignment.
[05:27] <Ublunttu> nor do I care what others think
[05:27] <Tucks> OpenJDK needs some work. =/
[05:27] <atruno> Ublunttu, you win.  your above me.
[05:28] <Ublunttu> atruno: im above no-one. just wasn't sure how the economy was related to ubuntu support.
[05:28] <atruno> oops
[05:28] <Chakravanti> there's gonna be a demand for a lot more of it soon?
[05:28] <Chakravanti> making you a rich guy
[05:28] <Tucks> artruno  ::  Lol. Yeah, that was pretty out of the blue, but it was funny!
[05:28] <pdfman> I have installed win7 while i had ubuntu installed on the same hdd and now neither ubuntu nor win7 boot.Any suggestions pls
[05:29] <linuxguy101> over all the ubuntu 11.11 gui looks awsume but when you use it then you find out that it is barely funtual with more than 2 aplications running
[05:29] <atruno> sorry :(
[05:29] <Ublunttu> pdfman: boot live-cd reinstall grub to the HD
[05:29] <linuxguy101> usability on this distro is a 1 out of 10
[05:29] <Ublunttu> pdfman: such as 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' /dev/sda not not /dev/sda1
[05:29] <Tucks> Hey artruno, if you are infact looking for the offtopic channel for ubuntu, just join #ubuntu-offtopic (if you didn't already know that).  :)
[05:29] <Ublunttu> or whatever disk you are using.
[05:29] <atruno> yep i was browsing channels :)
[05:30] <Ublunttu> linuxguy101: lmao are you using ubuntu 11.10 with unity ?
[05:30] <Nick30857> Need some assistance, am attempting to control a small USB robot arm with voice commands however julian -input mic -C julius.jconf just sets up a seemingly endless repetition of 300usec of no input
[05:30] <Ublunttu> then useability is 0 sir.
[05:30] <linuxguy101> Ublunttu: yes
[05:30] <Ublunttu> no one in their right mind uses unity ;\
[05:30] <Chakravanti> linuxguy101:  sudo apt-get install gnome
[05:30] <underline_> Ublunttu: You're patently idiotic!
[05:30] <Tucks> Ublunttu  ::  I do!  XD
[05:30] <Ublunttu> no
[05:30] <Chakravanti> reboot and regrade
[05:30] <Ublunttu> im entitled to my opinion
[05:30] <Nick30857> occasionally it will repeat what I say to it back with <50% accuracy however, it uses adin_oss, I feel adin_alsa would be better, anyone know how to switch or how to make this work?
[05:30] <Ublunttu> don't take my opinion so seriously. geez
[05:30] <linuxguy101> Chakravanti: i can see why!
[05:30] <underline_> Ublunttu: You're patently idiotic!
[05:31] <Ublunttu> thanks
[05:31] <Ublunttu> good to know
[05:31] <Ben64> !offtopic | almost everyone
[05:31] <Ublunttu> I thought I was copyrightedly idiotic
[05:31] <Tucks> I think you just need a heftier machine to  use Unity.
[05:31] <Chakravanti> linuxguy101, unity is WIP i'm sure it'll all sorts of candy bells and flipping whistles
[05:31] <Chakravanti> in 2013+
[05:31] <Ublunttu> Tucks: I have a i3 oc to 4.2 ghz with 4gb ram and unity lags my comp
[05:31] <linuxguy101> Chakravanti: it is kinda like linux got attacked by the iphone
[05:31] <underline_> Ublunttu: You must be a proud little baby!
[05:32] <Ublunttu> underline_: you are an angry guy huh ?
[05:32] <Ben64> take the offtopic stuff elsewhere
[05:32] <Ublunttu> seek counseling
[05:32] <Nick30857> for realsies, i need halp not to watch the drama unfold!
[05:32] <Chakravanti> linuxguy101, no gnome is doing the same exact things, just better (At the moment)
[05:32] <Tucks> Try doubling the RAM.  That's always worked for me.  Hell, you can get good RAM for dirt cheap off of Amazon.com!
[05:32] <underline_> Ublunttu: You're beyond counselling, you should just blow your brains out.
[05:32] <pdfman> Ublunttu ok will do.tx
[05:32] <linuxguy101> Chakravanti: i installed gnome, however i forgot my user acct name lol..
[05:32] <Ben64> underline_, Ublunttu: just stop
[05:32] <Ublunttu> can someone ban him? for telling me to suicide
[05:32] <linuxguy101> working around that one now..
[05:32] <Ublunttu> thats a crime where I live actually.
[05:33] <underline_> Ublunttu: Is baby going to cry?
[05:33] <Ublunttu> yes
[05:33] <Ben64> both of you need to just stop
[05:33] <Ublunttu> im crying now.
[05:33] <Chakravanti> amorphous touch geared window organization is the future and that's all it is
[05:33] <Ublunttu> im also done. now who has a question for the support machine.
[05:33] <underline_> Ublunttu: Good for you. /part the channel and do it somewhere else.
[05:33] <Nick30857> please does anyone have any advice for me? I've been working on this with not much progress for a couple of days now
[05:33] <Ublunttu> Nick30857: what is your question sir!
[05:33] <underline_> Nick30857: You're stuffed.
[05:33] <Ben64> underline_: stop with the attacks
[05:34] <Nick30857> I am attempting to control a small USB robot arm with voice commands however julian -input mic -C julius.jconf just sets up a seemingly endless repetition of 300usec of no input
[05:34] <Nick30857> actually i'm using padsp julian
[05:34] <Ublunttu> Nick30857: yea. sorry never used a small usb robot :\
[05:34] <Nick30857> damn, any idea what the audio input issue could be?
[05:34] <Ublunttu> using alsa or?
[05:34] <Nick30857> it's adin_oss
[05:34] <Nick30857> i want adin_alsa however idk how to get it to it
[05:35] <Ublunttu> do they have alsa version oss is very old and unsupported afaik
[05:35] <Nick30857> would updating julian be a fix?
[05:35] <Ublunttu> is adin_alsa a module you can modprobe in to the kernel ?
[05:35] <Nick30857> rather would updating julian switch it to alsa?
[05:35] <Nick30857> oh idk
[05:35] <Tucks> Nick30857  ::  Damn your question is out of my league!  Sorry, bro.  I'd love to help if only i had the knowledge.  :(
[05:35] <Ublunttu> Nick30857: sudo modprobe file. but i'd sudo rmmod the other one firs
[05:36] <Ublunttu> Tucks: yea I doubt I have the knowledge either. lol usb robot and all but i'm gonna try!
[05:36] <Tucks> Ublunttu  ::  When in doubt...Google it!  LOL
[05:36] <linuxguy101> Ublunttu: i bet you are a windows user in here to disrupt people
[05:36] <Ublunttu> Dr. orpheous commands the USB robot to work.
[05:37] <Nick30857> module adin_alsa not found
[05:37] <Nick30857> hmm
[05:37] <Ublunttu> no......... i'm an ubuntu user
[05:37] <Tucks> uhhh.... wut?
[05:37] <Ublunttu> and if you didn't notice I have actually been providing answers to questions that I have the answers to. but try again bud
[05:37] <underline_> Ublunttu: Please stop screwing up the channel, dumb windows user.
[05:37] <Ben64> !ops | underline_
[05:37] <Ublunttu> hlol.
[05:38] <Ublunttu> I love to be attacked on t3h int3rw3bz
[05:38] <Ublunttu> cause i'd knock you out in real life kid
[05:38] <Nick30857> keyboard bullies!
[05:38] <Ublunttu> and i'm /done he is muted now
[05:38] <elky> Ublunttu, no need for threats ever
[05:38] <underline_> Ublunttu: Keyboard warrior.
[05:38] <Nick30857> no reason to call out on ublunttu when he's actively trying to help me
[05:39] <Ublunttu> oh I don't make threats. I box (amateur) but still. im pretty good ;\
[05:39] <elky> underline_, stop that, right now.
[05:39] <multipass> I just copied my ubuntu server VDI over to anothr computer, and now my network does not work--and i get "Waiting for network configuration" at startup for like 2 minutes. How can i restore this?
[05:39] <Gerald> hi can i just compile the usb driver of the kernel and mounting it with modprobe?
[05:39] <Ublunttu> Gerald: uhh.. well sudo modprobe "module"
[05:39] <Ublunttu> whatever that module maybe idk.
[05:39] <Gerald> i need to compile it before
[05:40] <Ublunttu> then do so?
[05:40] <Gerald> but how can i just compile the usb driver?
[05:40] <Ublunttu> maybe menuconfig ?
[05:40] <Gerald> this creates me a makefile?
[05:40] <Ublunttu> but idk how to build kernels on ubuntu sorry just on gentoo
[05:40] <Ublunttu> its a program to choose what files are part of the kernel
[05:40] <Ben64> Gerald: does ubuntu not have the module available?
[05:40] <Gerald> does it generate a makefile or so?
[05:40] <Ublunttu> no
[05:40] <Gerald> which modules?
[05:41] <Tucks> Ublunttu  ::  Whatthehell?? Didyoujustsay GENTOO???
[05:41] <Ben64> whchever one you wanted?
[05:41] <linuxguy101> what the hell, has the ipone influenced the inux community so much it lost its logical placement of names of program type and program content?
[05:41] <almoxarife> Gerald: got a ubuntu specific question?
[05:41] <Ublunttu> yea. but lets not get offtopic again since gentoo is offtopic here .
[05:41] <Tucks> My cousin is trying that one out! :D
[05:41] <Gerald> i patched the usb driver...and dont want to always compile the kernel
[05:41] <linuxguy101> inux =linun
[05:41] <Ublunttu> thanks elky
[05:41] <linuxguy101> that is it i am doing a major blog story on this crap.. i am not impressed at all
[05:41] <Gerald> i just want to compile the usb driver...and modprobe it
[05:42] <Gerald> on ubuntu :D
[05:42] <elky> Ublunttu, sorry it took so long to read the scrollback
[05:42] <Ublunttu> linuxguy101: yea man. that is your right but can you stop telling us about it?
[05:42] <Ben64> Gerald: you can, but it will likely break on every kernel upgrade
[05:42] <Ublunttu> it is not ubuntu support related
[05:42] <Ublunttu> why do you want to compile your own usb driver....?
[05:42] <Gerald> on if i call modprobe?
[05:42] <Ublunttu> seems like unneccesary work
[05:43] <Gerald> i patched the usb driver!
[05:43] <Ublunttu> oh.
[05:43] <linuxguy101> Ublunttu: you are on ignore.. windows user scum
[05:43] <Ublunttu> lmao
[05:43] <Ben64> Gerald: I compiled my own module for temperature sensors, and I have to recompile every kernel upgrade
[05:43] <almoxarife> linuxguy101: you need to leave
[05:43] <Ublunttu> like I give a crap kid
[05:43] <Gerald> but the patch is only usful because i read so usb to serial...and this one seems to have a problem...thats why the patch is necessary
[05:43] <Ben64> Ublunttu: don't encourage them
[05:43] <Ublunttu> Ben64: yea.
[05:43] <linuxguy101> almoxarife: ignore
[05:43] <linuxguy101> anyone else?
[05:44] <Ublunttu> he is the windows user trolling.
[05:44] <Ben64> Ublunttu: just drop it
[05:44] <Ublunttu> kk
[05:44] <Tucks> linuxguy101  ::  stfu or gtfo.  i hate people who cause trouble amongst fellow community members.  you may not like Ublunttu, but shut yer trap and keep it to yourself.
[05:44] <Gerald> Ben64, cant u just unmodeprobe the usb driver and get back the old one?:=
[05:44] <linuxguy101> tucks ignore..
[05:44] <linuxguy101> i am part of the linux community, and i have been since the very beginning
[05:45] <Ben64> Gerald: usb is more important than my temperature module, i wouldn't want to mess around with usb
[05:45] <linuxguy101> i dont take kindly to paid windows opss to hijack a linux distro
[05:45] <Ublunttu> someone? banhammer plz
[05:46] <Tucks> i'm serious dude.  all i've heard is fighting between you and ubluntu.  if y'all keep it to yourself, then we can continue our support with the others who have questions.
[05:46] <Tucks> yea srsly
[05:46] <Ublunttu> Tucks: just let him go
[05:46] <almoxarife> linuxguy101: take the drama elsewhere
[05:46] <Tucks> k man
[05:46] <FunkyBob> so... quick question on dev package dependancies
[05:46] <Ublunttu> im not at all phased by pixels
[05:46] <Gerald> Ben64, after i did modprobe i cant get back the old usb driver?
[05:46] <Tucks> I just hate drama.
[05:46] <Ublunttu> me2
[05:46] <Ben64> Gerald: depends where you have the module compiled
[05:46] <FunkyBob> I just went to install 'libpq-dev' ... and it brings in with it a lot of other dev packages [makes sense] but also several libs
[05:46] <linuxguy101> so how do i change the look on gnome to a more pull down menue thing?
[05:47] <Ublunttu> Gerald: modprobe inserts it in to the kernel thats all it does you can rmmod it at any time
[05:47] <FunkyBob> now... why does the deb package need libs that the "libpq" package does not?
[05:47] <Gerald> Ben64, what do u mean whereP?
[05:47] <FunkyBob> s/deb/dev/
[05:47] <Gerald> is it not possible to mount and unmount the usb driver whenever i want?
[05:47] <Ublunttu> FunkyBob: cause devs are development versions and have more to them usually
[05:47] <Ben64> Gerald: what did you change in it?
[05:47] <Tucks> linuxguy101  ::  I'm not sure about Gnome 3...  Can you create a pannel?
[05:47] <Ublunttu> so more might be required
[05:47] <multipass> I just copied my ubuntu server VDI over to anothr computer, and now my network does not work--and i get "Waiting for network configuration" at startup for like 2 minutes. How can i restore this?
[05:47] <Gerald> if its umount the old one should be used
[05:48] <Gerald> Ben64, http://groups.google.com/group/ti-launchpad/browse_frm/thread/e414bf066fbd1d59/1dacabc8a4f00ab6#1dacabc8a4f00ab6
[05:48] <punkmexic> ive just installed lubuntu on my laptop but i cant listen sounds how do i fix it?
[05:48] <Gerald> this patch
[05:48] <Ublunttu> punkmexic: open "alsamixer" in a terminal make sure nothing has MM under it
[05:48] <Ben64> Gerald: probably wouldn't be able to use both drivers at once, conflicts and what not
[05:49] <Gerald> Ben64, any other idea?
[05:49] <Flizzop> Tucks: What I meant earlier was, how do  I access my System menu, with administration settings and my hardware/additional drivers in 11.10
[05:49] <Gerald> is it possible to disable a driver?
[05:49] <Flizzop> Tucks: it apparently used to be on the top left corner, on the desktop
[05:49] <punkmexic> i opened alasmixer Ublunttu
[05:49] <Ben64> Gerald: can blacklist, yes
[05:50] <Gerald> load my modified driver...umount it and load the default one
[05:50] <Ublunttu> punkmexic: did you check for "MM" anywhere ?
[05:50] <punkmexic> i see MM on s /pdif
[05:50] <Tucks> Flizzop  ::  Oh you mean like "Backup, Software Sources, System Info, Time & Date, Universal Access, and User Accounts"??
[05:50] <whoppergator> Flizzop: is it not in the upper right-hand corner menu?
[05:50] <urlin2u> Flizzop, top button in left panel type additional drivers
[05:50] <Gerald> Ben64, blacklist for how long?
[05:50] <Ublunttu> punkmexic: how are you expecting to hear sound? analog pc speakers or???
[05:50] <punkmexic> pc speakers
[05:51] <Ublunttu> punkmexic: in a terminal type sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[05:51] <Ben64> Gerald: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166624
[05:51] <KocHi`> somebody help me.. when I try to activate the additional driver for ati.. my computer run slow after restarted..
[05:51] <Tucks> Flizzop  ::  Click on the power button that kinda looks like a gear or something in the top-right corner of your screen.
[05:51] <Flizzop> Tucks: err, i don't know exactly, it says this "Under the desktop menu System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers, the STA drivers can be activated for use" so I figure i should probably see whats going on ith that
[05:51] <kanhiya> hello
[05:51] <kanhiya> everyone
[05:51] <Ublunttu> howdie
[05:52] <Flizzop> Tucks: I tried going through the driver updater but I keep getting some unknown error
[05:52] <kanhiya> How to know GPRS data balance using USSD in UBUNTU
[05:52] <kanhiya> I have downloaded ixconn
[05:52] <Tucks> Flizzop  ::  "CAN" be activated for use?  Yep, activate that baby.  Just choose the one that's NOT the post-release driver.  That one disables it for some reason.  Lol
[05:53] <kanhiya> this didn't worked for me
[05:53] <Gerald> Ben64, it does disable the current driver, load my modified driver, diable my modified driver, load the default driver?
[05:53] <punkmexic> ive installed pavucontrol Ublunttu
[05:53] <Flizzop> Tucks: exactly, except I can't find the menu, it seems some things are missing in my list
[05:53] <Ublunttu> punkmexic: ok open it with typing pavucontrol in terminal. on configuration tab what does it say? and also make sure all your settings in there are correct.
[05:53] <kanhiya> i also used gsm-ussd
[05:53] <kanhiya> this told me
[05:53] <Flizzop> Tucks: it doesn't show administration
[05:53] <kanhiya> modem not available
[05:54] <Gerald> How can i just compile the usb driver of my ubuntu kernel source?
[05:54] <Ublunttu> Flizzop: in terminal type jockey-gtk
[05:54] <kanhiya> even when , ia have disconnected modem from data usage
[05:54] <Gerald> can i use a makefile?
[05:54] <kanhiya> hello
[05:54] <Tucks> Flizzop  ::  Well that's weird.  =/  Are you using Unity, KDE, or Xfce?
[05:54] <Flizzop> unity :b oneiris
[05:54] <Ublunttu> Tucks: he can just open jockey-gtk from terminal then
[05:54] <kanhiya> anybody, help me
[05:54] <punkmexic> pulseaudio failed Ublunttu
[05:55] <Ublunttu> punkmexic: thats not good! try pulseaudio -k in terminal and try again
[05:55] <Ublunttu> I always remove pulse-audio cause its garbage.
[05:55] <Flizzop> but yes, I tried doing that Ublunttu, it says there was an error and to look at some log, I figured the drivers thing that is in the tutorial would be something else, like where I could manually activate the ones that are installed.. :/
[05:55] <Tucks> Flizzop  ::  I forgot, did you say you've used Ubuntu before?  =P
[05:56] <kanhiya> hello. community
[05:56] <Ublunttu> Flizzop: are you trying to install nvidia  driver or?
[05:56] <punkmexic> Ublunttu,  ive just installed pulseaudio :P
[05:56] <punkmexic> Ublunttu, what should i do now
[05:56] <Ublunttu> punkmexic: look on the config tab? wat does it say? stereo analog duplex or something ?
[05:56] <kanhiya> How to send ussd commands in ubuntu
[05:56] <punkmexic> Ublunttu, E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process
[05:56] <King_OnTheGo> Why am I banned from offtopic?
[05:56] <Ublunttu> punkmexic: uhhh.
[05:57] <Flizzop> Tucks: nope haha I've learned a lot in 2 days though... (sorry if that sounds.. idk hypocrital for lack of better words, i am here... talking to you about me failing at using ubuntu...)
[05:57] <Tucks> punkmexic  ::  Hmmm.....
[05:57] <kanhiya> I need to use my phone to know my data balance
[05:57] <Ublunttu> punkmexic: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio ?
[05:57] <punkmexic> ive just did that Ublunttu
[05:57] <kanhiya> i want to know the same in UBuntu
[05:57] <Gerald> How can i just compile the usb driver of my ubuntu kernel source...can i set this in the makefile without using menuconfig?
[05:57] <kanhiya> while using data card
[05:57] <Flizzop> Ublunttu: I'm trying to install my Broadcom 4311 driver,  or at least activate it, it says it's installed
[05:57] <Ublunttu> punkmexic: pastebin for me plz. aplay -L
[05:57] <punkmexic> i see pavucontrol now Ublunttu
[05:57] <Tucks> Flizzop  ::  No no, you're just fine!  :)  That's why we're here: to help our fellow community!  :)
[05:57] <Flizzop> Ublunttu: i have no wifi, haha I'm using an ethernet
[05:58] <Flizzop> Tucks: Thanks :D
[05:58] <Ublunttu> punkmexic: if you run aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav in terminal do you hear the sound ?
[05:58] <punkmexic> http://pastebin.com/W3ygnEzx
[05:58] <Tucks> Flizzop  ::  Okay, now there was a lot of drama that previously happened, so you are trying to activate your Additional Drivers, yes?
[05:59] <almoxarife> what is the snapshot version of 'top'?
[05:59] <punkmexic> Ublunttu,  you are a genius i hear sounds now
[05:59] <Ublunttu> I know.. I know...
[05:59] <Ublunttu> ty ty very much.
[05:59] <Flizzop> Tucks: yea, but when I do the Jockey-gts thing, and I click install to install my driver, it says error: go to /var/lib/somethingoranother/log..
[05:59] <punkmexic> thanx a lot
[05:59] <Ublunttu> and they called me a windows user!
[05:59] <Nick30857> ublunttu if you're still in here i have another Q
[05:59] <Ublunttu> whats up nicky
[06:00] <Nick30857> oh hey excellent
[06:00] <Nick30857> so I updated julius and set my alsa input to "hw:0,1" for my second
[06:00] <Nick30857> (external usb soundcard)
[06:00] <Ublunttu> ok
[06:00] <Tucks> Flizzop  ::  Well, i'm not sure about doing that kind of stuffs.  But let me try to show you it on my compter through imagebin.  Hangon---I'm making a Screenshot for you.
[06:00] <Flizzop> Tucks: Haha you definitly require a bit more patience when starting out with ubuntu, it feels like your almost learning a new programming language, what with all the terminal commands, hehe
[06:00] <King_OnTheGo> Since when am I banned from offtopic?
[06:00] <Nick30857> i then tried to use -input ALSA for my compile and now it says that alsa support is not built-in, can't find anything about it on google
[06:01] <Flizzop> Tucks: alright haha
[06:01] <almoxarife> nothing wrong with windows, great for doing your taxes
[06:01] <Ublunttu> I can do my taxes in my browser on ubuntu :\
[06:01] <Nick30857> so i guess this is for anyone in the chat as well, anyone know how to get the alsa support for julius?
[06:01] <Ublunttu> im not familiar with juilus Nick30857 im sorry. I know alsa. just not the robot
[06:02] <Nick30857> i'm still so raw with ubuntu, i wish i were better with it haha
[06:02] <Flizzop> Tucks: I did get Steam running perfect through wine, and minecraft and a server too... xD
[06:02] <almoxarife> what is the snapshot version of 'top'?
[06:02] <Flizzop> Tucks: Minecraft server, I mean
[06:02] <punkmexic> Ublunttu, how do i add volume icon on lubuntu to taskbar
[06:03] <LowWalker> flizzop, does that cover all steam games!?
[06:03] <Flizzop> LowWalker: I don't think so.. haha
[06:03] <Ublunttu> punkmexic: maybe right click and hit add items to panel or something to show a list? sorry don't use lubuntu
[06:03] <Flizzop> LowWalker: I use it for my friends who are too lazy to get skype
[06:03] <punkmexic> i tried that but it doesnt add it :(
[06:03] <Tucks> Flizzop  ::  Oh yeah.  It was pretty confusing for me at first but I eventually found that I can do the majority of what everyday home users do I can do graphically on Ubuntu.  WHAT???  Okay, temp. ADD moment and then back to support!  ^^  How did you get WINE running correctly?  My Toshiba must be conspiring against me....
[06:03] <Tucks> LowWalker, you a Steam gamer?
[06:04] <Flizzop> Tucks: I did sudo su, then sudo somethinghere then bam wine :3
[06:04] <mcgrete> Hello.  I have been trying to install wx python for an alternate python (2.7) installation.  Resorted to installing with Syanptic for default Python2.6 (Lucid).  Then, simply copied wx install files to Python2.7 path, e.g. /usr/local/...   Almost worked.  Apparently I needed to set options on Python2.7 installation to use different unicode (it used 2 by default, I need to use 4).  I...
[06:04] <mcgrete> ...installed Python2.7 by downloading  Python-2.7.tgz and then 'tar xzf Python-2.7.tgz'.  Then, used './configure/ command followed by 'make' command, and then 'sudo make altinstall'.  Installed to '/usr/local/...'.  So finally, my question:  how do I alter the build process to use unicode 4, and not the default 2?  I understand that there is an option to do so, but when/how do I do that? ...
[06:04] <mcgrete> ...Must I modify the configure file or the make file or other?
[06:04] <FloodBot1> mcgrete: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:04] <LowWalker> tucks, yes but lately these days aside from dota I don't play much.
[06:04] <Ublunttu> mcgrete: ./configure --options
[06:05] <Ublunttu> see you config it. then you "make it"
[06:05] <punkmexic> Ublunttu, i open an mp3 and sounds bad :(
[06:05] <Tucks> I hear you can play WoW and TF2 through Wine, but i've yet to figure out how to make it work.
[06:05] <Ublunttu> punkmexic: doesn't play at all or sounds bad ?
[06:05] <Tucks> but i'm getting offtopic. lool
[06:05] <punkmexic> sounds crispy Ublunttu
[06:05] <mcgrete> Ublunuttu - thanks.  So, can I simply reinstall Python2.7, and not have to worry about other 3rd party installations - will they remain in-tact?
[06:05] <Ublunttu> punkmexic: does everything sound like that?
[06:06] <punkmexic> Ublunttu, i opened other mp3 and doesnt sound bad
[06:06] <Flizzop> Tucks: in reality though, I just followed a tutorial, its what I've been doing for everything and everythings been perfect really, my only issue is that my damn wifi card isn't activated with this weird firmware missing thing
[06:06] <Ublunttu> then that mp3 is bad...
[06:06] <Ben64> Tucks: pretty much just install wine, then install game(s)
[06:06] <Gerald> How can i just compile the usb driver of my ubuntu kernel source...can i set this in the makefile without using menuconfig?
[06:07] <Tucks> Ben64  ::  IS THAT IT???  Wow.  I feel derpy today.
[06:07] <Ublunttu> Tucks: sudo apt-get install wine .. I think
[06:07] <Ben64> Tucks: check winehq.org for instructions for certain applications, not all work flawlessly
[06:07] <Flizzop> yea you just right click any .exe and click install using wine something something
[06:07] <Ublunttu> I thought most games don't work / arent really playable on win
[06:08] <Ublunttu> e
[06:08] <mcgrete> Ublunttu - 3rd party modules remain OK?
[06:08] <Ben64> i can play everything i want to
[06:08] <Flizzop> well yea I mean not ANY exe
[06:08] <murphy> where is free vpn?
[06:08] <Ublunttu> mcgrete: huh ?
[06:08] <Tucks> Yeah, i've got it, but i've put it on the shelf becasue i didn't know how to make it work right.  Well then!  After this, I'll be playing TF2....ON UBUNTU. \m/
[06:08] <Ben64> Tucks: and if you use the latest version from the ppa, it works better - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa
[06:08] <tnorris> I'm using Ubuntu Live installed on a USB, and am installing a bunch of updates and custom packages. When I install to disk, will those updates and packages also be installed?
[06:09] <pambos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4M6zb35_M&feature=relmfu
[06:09] <mcgrete> Ublunttu - Sorry.  If I reinstall Python, will other Python modules installed remain in-tact?
[06:09] <urlin2u> tnorris, no
[06:09] <murphy> Ben64: where is free vpn?
[06:09] <Ublunttu> mcgrete: that I don't know the answer to sorry.
[06:09] <Flizzop> I do have a question Ben64, would CDs or mounted ISOs of games run in wine?
[06:09] <mcgrete> Ublunuttu - Thanks.  Will let you know shortly.
[06:09] <tnorris> urlin2u: not even the kernel updates I'm installing?
[06:09] <Ublunttu> mcgrete: I know if you mess up with python it will b0rk the whole ubuntu install though...
[06:09] <Flizzop> I want to play Sim City 4 ahahah
[06:09] <Ublunttu> BE CAREFUL:!
[06:10] <urlin2u> tnorris, kernel updates are the lst ting you should be doing on a live cd.
[06:10] <urlin2u> last
[06:10] <mcgrete> Ublunttu: I know.  Have an image backup already (Clonezilla)
[06:10] <Ublunttu> mcgrete: perfrect.
[06:11] <Ben64> Flizzop: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=4088
[06:11] <Flizzop> Ben64: well ill be damned, awesome haha
[06:11] <Ben64> Flizzop: doesn't look like it works perfectly though
[06:12] <Flizzop> Ben64: Still cool how they list what works and what doesnt though
[06:12] <Ublunttu> sim city 4 is the best one too
[06:12] <Tucks> Flizzop  ::  I don't know much about wifi cards n' such, but could you show me a screenshot?
[06:12] <Flizzop> Tucks: sure but, how do I private chat someone? haha
[06:12] <Tucks> just paste it to http://www.imagebin.org
[06:12] <Ublunttu> Tucks: wifi is always a problem on linux its the closed-source manufacturers fault.
[06:12] <LowWalker> mcgrete: I don't think so unless you built from source
[06:12] <Ublunttu> anyway bed time. nice meeting you guys.
[06:13] <Flizzop> Ublunttu: Hajimemashite~
[06:13] <Tucks> Flizzop  :: Then when you're done, post the link here in the channel to your picture.
[06:13] <urlin2u> tnorris, how big is the thumb drive?
[06:13] <Flizzop> Tucks: k haha
[06:14] <Flizzop> Tucks: does prtscrn copy it to my clip board? like in windows?
[06:14] <tnorris> urlin2u: ok, thanks. 8GB. I'm preping for a new computer, and want to get it up and running with all my current stuff asap.
[06:15] <Tucks> Ublunttu  ::  And that is why you're important here:  pointing out the most obvious solution while I'm running around in a rabbit hole!  Hohohoo!  Thanks man.  I forgot about that for a second.
[06:15] <almoxarife> can rsync be setup to do differential backups?
[06:15] <urlin2u> tnorris, cool, you will just get a basic install no matter what you do to the thumb, but that thumb is big enough for a full ionstall, but still not easily tranferable, at least if your in a hurry.
[06:16] <Tucks> Flizzop  ::  I think it just actually takes a picture of your screen instead of copying it.
[06:16] <Tucks> Yep. it does.
[06:16] <Tucks> try it out!   it's even got a camera sound to it!  :)
[06:17] <mcgrete> Ublunttu - other modules remain in-tact.  Option worked. Thanks!
[06:18] <tnorris> urlin2u: thanks for the tip. guess I'll just have to write a script that will run through all the stuff for me.
[06:18] <Linux8889> Anyone know the best way to encrypt my entire Harddrive with 11.10 (fluxbox with gnome applications installed)?
[06:18] <Flizzop> Tucks: almost got them
[06:18] <Flizzop> Tucks: theres 3 pictures
[06:19] <tnorris> urlin2u: if I do a full install to the thumb, is there a way to transfer it to the new hard disk?
[06:19] <Tucks> Flizzop  ::  Paste away, commander!  >:)
[06:19] <urlin2u> tnorris, you can save what is installed to a script in the old setup
[06:19] <urlin2u> save the repos and your in like flynn
[06:19] <Linux8889>  what would be a good channel for finding a way to encrypt my entire HD?
[06:20] <tnorris> cool. thanks for the tips.
[06:20] <Flizzop> Tucks: 1, http://imagebin.org/194042       2, http://imagebin.org/194043     3, http://imagebin.org/194044
[06:20] <dino__> irc.freenode.net #cakephp
[06:21] <urlin2u> tnorris, you could dd it or just copy it with gparted, but I'm not sure that is best as far as drivers go not sure here really, I just copy the installed and the repos my self.
[06:21] <urlin2u> installed list
[06:24] <Tucks> OOH MY GAWD!  TF2 HERE I COME!!!  XD
[06:24] <Tucks> Lol
[06:24] <Tucks> k one second
[06:24] <urlin2u> Linux8889, ##linux is a god channel as well.
[06:24] <acidfrost> Linux8889, #truecrypt i think has a channel
[06:25] <Flizzop> Tucks: haha
[06:25] <Flizzop> Tucks: what did you see the steam Icon? :3
[06:25] <urlin2u> acidfrost, your right they do.
[06:25] <urlin2u> good*
[06:25] <pangolin> Tucks: Please do not make random comments that have no relevance to Ubuntu support.
[06:25] <acidfrost> they'd be more than happy to help you with encrypting your hard drive
[06:26] <acidfrost> !ot > Tucks
[06:26] <acidfrost> pangolin, kinda ironic aint it
[06:26] <Tucks> pangolin, you're right.  I'm sorry.  I'll stay more relevant now.
[06:27] <almoxarife> Flizzop: pls share your /var/log/jockey.log
[06:27] <pangolin> Tucks: thank you. I would hate to have to tell you again. :)
[06:27] <Flizzop> alright then, I don't want to clog up the main chat though, how do I start private messages?
[06:28] <pangolin> /msg nick
[06:28] <almoxarife> Flizzop: not to chat
[06:28] <urlin2u> Flizzop, there is also #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:28] <Tucks> Flizzop  ::  Yep.  That looks like it's a problem with the manufacturer, I suppose.  My drivers installed smoothly, but I'm using a different computer.
[06:28] <Flizzop> alright then
[06:28] <almoxarife> Flizzop: open a terminal
[06:28] <Flizzop> onnnnne second
[06:29] <Flizzop> haha
[06:29] <Flizzop> yes
[06:29] <Flizzop> ?
[06:29] <FloodBot1> Flizzop: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:29] <Flizzop> sorry FloodBot.. :< hehe
[06:29] <Tucks> Floodbot1 doesn't liek you.  lol
[06:30] <Flizzop> okay here goes
[06:30] <Flizzop> im gonna paste it...
[06:30] <Flizzop> haha
[06:30] <Flizzop> 2012-01-16 00:33:13,893 DEBUG: updating <jockey.detection.LocalKernelModulesDriverDB instance at 0xb773164c> 2012-01-16 00:33:16,501 DEBUG: reading modalias file /lib/modules/3.0.0-12-generic/modules.alias 2012-01-16 00:33:16,676 DEBUG: reading modalias file /usr/share/jockey/modaliases/b43 2012-01-16 00:33:16,677 DEBUG: reading modalias file /usr/share/jockey/modaliases/disable-upstream-nvidia 2012-01-16 00:33:16,749 WARNING: Could 
[06:31] <FloodBot1> Flizzop: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:31] <Tucks> hmmm.... well, i guess I've reached the extent of my knowledge here.  Thanks everybody for being on here and helping out the community and whatnot.  Flizzop, I hope it all goes well.
[06:31] <Flizzop> oh well.. ehm nevermind
[06:31] <Flizzop> Tucks: no problem, I am going to figure this out sometime
[06:31] <Tucks> You will.  :)
[06:32] <Flizzop> ohhhh pastebin
[06:32] <Flizzop> okay, almoxarife here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/807087/
[06:34] <Linux8889> so I made a big no no and messed up permissions of 3 of my $PATH directories. (the evil "chmod -R 777")  Do I have to reinstall?
[06:34] <Linux8889> the programs still work
[06:34] <Linux8889> and I monitor firestarter and behind a router
[06:35] <almoxarife> Flizzop: did you make some custom change to the wifi driver?
[06:35] <Flizzop> almoxarife: not me personally, I bought the computer secondhand though, so I don't know what they could have done with it.. :/
[06:36] <Flizzop> almoxarife: I should note that it does work though, It worked on -please dont hate me when i say this- windows
[06:36] <almoxarife> linuxguy101: firestarter behind a router is sort of redundant unless you dont have control of the router
[06:37] <v14502424> hi! it seems that i messed up the permissions for /usr/share, how do i set them back?
[06:37] <almoxarife> Flizzop: i can see it working on windows and not ubuntu
[06:37] <Phidias> Well,
[06:37] <Phidias> This is ambarrasing
[06:38] <Phidias> *embarrasing
[06:38] <Flizzop> almoxarife: heard its something to do with windows being open source and the hardware having closed source drivers or something
[06:38] <Flizzop> almoxarife: hahahah not windows, ubuntu***
[06:38] <linuxguy101> almoxarife: the default settings on the permission levels are not set very high
[06:38] <almoxarife> Flizzop: no, windows has the correct driver and ubuntu does not, simple like that
[06:39] <linuxguy101> almoxarife: looks like all users have read wright access to everyone elses files on there user accts
[06:39] <Flizzop> almoxarife: k well, is there anything I can do?
[06:39] <linuxguy101> not very good
[06:39] <almoxarife> linuxguy101: i can see wanting your own all then
[06:39] <almoxarife> linuxguy101: wall
[06:39] <linuxguy101> almoxarife: easy fix
[06:40] <linuxguy101> almoxarife: also dolphin kde app remove there setting to view permission levels in the view all files section
[06:40] <v14502424> hi! it seems that i messed up the permissions for /usr/share, any ideas on how to set them back?
[06:40] <StrikerMan780> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11617470#post11617470
[06:41] <almoxarife> Flizzop: give me a sec
[06:41] <linuxguy101> almoxarife: option was also removed.. it is almost like some one is going into linux and remove all of the critical functions that make it secure
[06:41] <Flizzop> almoxarife: alrighty
[06:42] <DragonSlay> how to make use of volume controls shortcuts in keyboard(xfce)
[06:42] <BIGBOOMBA> hey guys, where are the Xlib files? Everything that comes up on google says that to compile a program using Xlib I need to include the linker option -L/usr/X11R6/lib, but there is not X11R6 directory in the /usr directory
[06:44] <BIGBOOMBA> actually, there is a /X11 directory, which contains four subdirectories
[06:45] <almoxarife> Flizzop: plz open a terminal
[06:45] <Flizzop> almoxarife: k step 1 is complete
[06:46] <almoxarife> run this           sudo apt-get install dkms
[06:46] <StrikerMan780> chsh is not changing my shell
[06:46] <StrikerMan780> and path remains messed up
[06:47] <Flizzop> almoxarife: mmmkay did that
[06:47] <almoxarife> Flizzop: did it install or tell you it was already installed?
[06:48] <Flizzop> almoxarife: its installing
[06:48] <Flizzop> its building some module thingy right now, it should be close to done, I'd imagiine
[06:48] <Flizzop> but yes
[06:48] <Flizzop> it is
[06:48] <almoxarife> Flizzop: it is?
[06:48] <saju_m> i want to test ssl/tls locally,  my ldap server's ip is 192.168.0.102,    So what should i given for CN during certificate creation ???
[06:49] <Flizzop> almoxarife: its done, haha- oh I meant that it is installing, as in, i didn't have it
[06:49] <Flizzop> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/807094/
[06:50] <almoxarife> Flizzop: redo what you did as shown on the screen shots you posted, if it errors out again, pastebe jockey.log again
[06:50] <Flizzop> almoxarife: thank you, I will try it
[06:51] <Flizzop> holy tits it worked
[06:51] <Flizzop> i mean, thats all i needed
[06:51] <Flizzop> my wifi card works
[06:51] <Flizzop> now I just need to reboot my system, thanks almoxarife! hahah
[06:52] <_ramo> hi
[06:52] <almoxarife> Flizzop: go forth and prosper, and begin reading them logs, its not windows anymore
[06:52] <_ramo> how can i enable the "setfacl" command on my server?
[06:55] <_ramo> can i see in the history, what commands a user fired?
[06:55] <zykotick9> _ramo: "history | grep foo" is handy if you know what you're looking for "history" if not.
[06:56] <_ramo> zykotick9: i mean if i have two users on a system, and i'm user one... than i can look with history|grep foo what i've done... but what if i want to see, what the user has done?
[06:56] <Flizzop_> hi, I'm back, so it seems the driver is enabled, but only my wired connections are showing, I can't actually connect to a wireless network, it doesn
[06:56] <Flizzop_> t say firmware missing anymore, it's just not there
[06:56] <zykotick9> _ramo: that i'm not sure of
[06:59] <almoxarife> Flizzop_: open a terminal
[07:00] <Flizzop_> k
[07:01] <almoxarife> run sudo apt-get install pastebinit          when complete run           cat /var/log/syslog                < then share the link
[07:01] <punkmexic> how do i install alsa or make my computer to make sounds
[07:01] <Flizzop_> okay haha
[07:01] <linuxguy101> btw i was wrong default settings are user read all files on /home/user first level of file listing
[07:01] <almoxarife> Flizzop_: wait
[07:01] <Flizzop_> yes
[07:01] <punkmexic> some people say that pulseaudio sucks so i want alsa
[07:02] <student> can anybody tell me how to use wget to download e-books in html?
[07:02] <almoxarife> run sudo apt-get install pastebinit when complete run cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit           < copy paste this one and run, then share the link
[07:02] <Flizzop_> okay
[07:02] <Flizzop_> ahh one second
[07:03] <zykotick9> punkmexic: FYI pulseaudio uses ALSA, they are two different things.  And sometimes "some people" can be wrong/mistaken.
[07:03] <StrikerMan780> My terminal is still stuck as /bin/sh even though I used chsh, and my PATH variable keeps getting screwed up after reboot - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11617470#post11617470
[07:03] <StrikerMan780> in fact, to this, the path variable hasn't even been set
[07:03] <StrikerMan780> which I know to be bullshit
[07:04] <student> can anybody tell me how to use wget to download e-books in html pages???
[07:04] <punkmexic> zykotick9, can you make my computer sound? can you help me?
[07:05] <zykotick9> punkmexic: sorry, i really can't.  I'm not good with sound issues, so I've given up trying.  Good luck.
[07:06] <yezariaely> my default xpdf installation at home crashes with a segfault on any pdf. I currently have no strace here. anyone had a similar problem?
[07:06] <almoxarife> student: install 'calibre'
[07:06] <yezariaely> (ubuntu version is 1104 I think)
[07:06] <almoxarife> !info calibre
[07:07] <Flizzop_> i'm sorry almoxarife, I clicked install updates when  I logged in last, they still are, should be done in a few minutes
[07:08] <almoxarife> Flizzop_: cant multi-task? unlike windows linux does
[07:08] <Wynn> Where do I refer to for installation issues?
[07:08] <Flizzop_> almoxarife: well it said that something couldnt run because it was open in a different process or something
[07:08] <Flizzop_> almoxarife: i figured that meant yknow.. because it was installing updates
[07:09] <almoxarife> Flizzop_: thats true, the install wont work while a update is in progress, my bad
[07:09] <Flizzop_> almoxarife: alright haha
[07:10] <Linux8889> Anyone know a good way to overwrite free space on the harddrive in Ubuntu 11.10 (ext4)
[07:11] <alvarezp> I can record audio in Audacity (Ubuntu 11.10) how can I rule Audacity out, and check if it is a lower-layer problem, say PulseAudio or ALSA?
[07:11] <alvarezp> s/I can/I can't/
[07:12] <urlin2u> Linux8889, gui wise bleachbit
[07:12] <acerimmer> Wynn: what problem?
[07:13] <kroonrs> alvarezp: parec is Pulseaudio's recording software
[07:13] <Flizzop_> so, ubuntu 12.04 wont have a terminal? o.e
[07:13] <Linux8889> urlin2u: I love bleachbit but confused with it.  It says pick a folder for each drive for the free space option... I dont know what they mean..do they mean it will only free the space on that folder?
[07:13] <alvarezp> Linux8889, one way is: dd if=/dev/zero of=dummyfile
[07:14] <alvarezp> Linux8889, when the space fills up, erase the file.
[07:14] <Wynn> acerimmer: When I install it doesn't get to the page which asks how much of my harddisk space I want to dedicate to Ubuntu
[07:14] <zykotick9> Flizzop_: where are you getting that idea from?
[07:14] <Linux8889> alvarezp: Thanks Ill look into that
[07:14] <alvarezp> kroonrs, I'll try that, thanks
[07:14] <acerimmer> Wynn: is this by chance a wubi install inside windows?
[07:14] <Flizzop_> zykotick9: Tucks told me, haha
[07:15] <zykotick9> Flizzop_: well, i wouldn't believe everything you hear.  I don't think even Ubuntu can sink so low as to not have a terminal (maybe, but i don't see it)
[07:16] <Flizzop_> zykotick9: that's what I was thinking, I mean my most used application is the terminal XD
[07:16] <student> how can i use graphics libraries on GCC? any suggestions which will be best?
[07:16] <MK`> Is the folder /proc supposed to show as containing 128 TB?
[07:18] <zykotick9> MK`: /proc isn't a "real" folder - mine is 0kb in size
[07:18] <MK`> ah
[07:19]  * almoxarife most used process has to be the mouse driver
[07:19] <MK`> Mine starts reading data and file sizes, then jumps to 128 TB and stays there as it finds more files.
[07:19] <metaspike> student, it would be more apt to say that GCC uses graphics libraries... when you make a file say. triangle.c - you include the graphics library with the rest of the development headers at the start of the document, then reference them during your program development with that libraries associated API
[07:20] <almoxarife> does rsync do differential backups?
[07:20] <Linux8889> almoxarife: try #rsync
[07:20] <Linux8889> almoxarife: I know rsync is very full featured
[07:22] <Flizzop_> be right back almoxarife, need to restart my computer to install updates, so ehm , if you could copy what you last said, then paste it when i get back, it would be greatly appreciated.. haha
[07:22] <almoxarife> Flizzop_: feel free to do so,, before you leave mkay
[07:27] <Flizzop> okay, I have returned almoxarife
[07:27] <StrikerMan780> Does anyone know about the problems I'm experiencing? or no
[07:28] <student> almoxarife, thanks dude
[07:28] <metaspike> what's wrong StrikerMan780? I just got here.
[07:28] <StrikerMan780> I posted my problem in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11617470#post11617470
[07:29] <almoxarife> student: welcome, great too to shoot stuff to kindle
[07:29] <caffine> i pulled out my hard drive from the desktop that needs repair and want to access my /home from my laptop. the drive is connected via usb, but the drive just has those two files about the drive being encrypted. i'm doing something wrong with ecryptfs-mount-private and the man page isn't helpful for my case. maybe i'm using the wrong tool for this.
[07:29] <caffine> any help?
[07:30] <virtuaposta> hi all
[07:31] <virtuaposta> how I can restrict the internet access for lan users only? means if someone is coming inside the lan should not be allowed to access the internet without registering into the lan. I also 'm not sure how I can register users in lan for internet access. Any directions to search into
[07:32] <metaspike> StrikerMan780, is your /etc/passwd file messed up possibly?
[07:32] <almoxarife> virtuaposta: do you control the router?
[07:32] <StrikerMan780> metaspike: As far as I know, it is fine
[07:32] <StrikerMan780> But, I can post the contents if need be
[07:32] <virtuaposta> almoxarife, yes I have ubuntu machine working as router
[07:33] <virtuaposta> almoxarife, squid you suggesting?
[07:33] <almoxarife> virtuaposta: i see, then the firewall app can be simple or really complicated, its a matter of choice
[07:33] <metaspike> StrikerMan780, might help if you're unsure at all... when did it go wrong? what changed
[07:34] <Flizzop> almoxarife: can you paste the last thing you said, I finished the updates
[07:34] <almoxarife> pastebin syslog
[07:34] <StrikerMan780> metaspike: That's the thing, I have absolutely 0 idea
[07:34] <almoxarife> Flizzop: what i said above
[07:35] <Flizzop> yes but the first part, I can't scroll up, the updates required a restart
[07:35] <virtuaposta> I have centralised authentication via openldap, is there any way so that I can tell squid to consult with openldap groups and if the user exists in group then apply some conditions?
[07:35] <metaspike> StrikerMan780, rm ~/.bashrc , logout and login?
[07:36] <almoxarife> Flizzop: still have wifi issues? pastebin /var/log/syslog
[07:37] <metaspike> virtuaposta, http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin24/access-control.html ?
[07:37] <Flizzop> yes but what do I have to paste to install pastebin?
[07:37] <Flizzop> i mean you know, type into the terminal
[07:37] <metaspike> oh i c no idea
[07:38] <StrikerMan780> metaspike: No dice... didn't change anything
[07:38] <Flizzop> is it just, sudo apt-get install pastebin?
[07:38] <almoxarife> Flizzop: install 'pastebinit' and run command 'cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[07:38] <almoxarife> Flizzop: yes
[07:39] <StrikerMan780> I feel like ripping my hair out
[07:39] <Flizzop> almoxarife: ohhh thats what happened, I didn't add the it.. *poker face*
[07:39] <almoxarife> Flizzop: 'pastebinit'
[07:39] <Flizzop> almoxarife: yea, I tried to install just 'pastebin' hahah
[07:40] <metaspike> StrikerMan780, take a chill pill then try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure bash
[07:40] <StrikerMan780> is it supposed to just show update-alternatives: using /usr/share/man/man7/bash-builtins.7.gz to provide /usr/share/man/man7/builtins.7.gz (builtins.7.gz) in auto mode.?
[07:41] <ssfdre38> hey would 10 * * * * /home/ssfdre38/bot/zymic/nohup php bot.php 2>&1> /dev/null & work for a valid cron command to start up my bot?
[07:42] <metaspike> StrikerMan780, dunno.
[07:42] <metaspike> :) - anyway, that would have reconfigured bash. if it still doesn't work, it could be permissions issue? -something- must have changed to do this.
[07:43] <StrikerMan780> rebooted, no dice
[07:43] <StrikerMan780> still broken
[07:45] <Flizzop> cat /var/log/syslog just gives me a blank line and nothing happens almoxarife
[07:46] <Flizzop> almoraxarife: i mean cat /var/log/syslog    |    pastebinit
[07:46] <almoxarife> Flizzop: your syslog is blank?
[07:46] <jutnux> almoxarife: That's one space between the cat command, the pipe and then pastebinit command.
[07:47] <mohsinhijazee> What is an ext4 superblock
[07:47] <Flizzop> almoxarife: no, just that command you gave me gives me a blank line in the terminal
[07:47] <Flizzop> no pastebin link
[07:47] <mohsinhijazee> My root partition has many missing files, although I am able to mount and read it. fsck reports no errors either. Any ideas?
[07:47] <metaspike> StrikerMan780, did you nistall dash?
[07:48] <StrikerMan780> no idea
[07:48] <StrikerMan780> why?
[07:48] <almoxarife> Flizzop: try           sudo cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[07:49] <wmirc> my ubuntu can't login as user (and root, too) to other DE except Ubuntu (gnome3) and Unity in 11.10 , any idea?
[07:49] <metaspike> StrikerMan780, im curious- is there a /bin/bash at all?
[07:49] <wmirc> i'm installed Xfce LXDE n Openbox
[07:50] <StrikerMan780> yes there is
[07:50] <StrikerMan780> if I type bash in my terminal
[07:50] <StrikerMan780> it switches to it
[07:50] <Flizzop> same thing, it's not possible to just ctrl A the log and paste it on pastebin.com?
[07:50] <StrikerMan780> and it appears dash is installed
[07:50] <llutz_> StrikerMan780: "getent passwd $USER"  what shell does it show?
[07:51] <almoxarife> Flizzop: how ever you can, pastebin syslog
[07:51] <StrikerMan780> llutz_: the output is here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1910278
[07:51] <llutz_> StrikerMan780: 1 line, i don't have www atm
[07:52] <StrikerMan780> First line says this
[07:52] <StrikerMan780> root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
[07:52] <llutz_> StrikerMan780: "getent passwd $USER"  as user
[07:52] <Youssef_KH> salam
[07:52] <Youssef_KH> hey i wanna make you a website
[07:53] <Kartagis> what file is apache's init script? /etc/init.d/apache2 or /etc/default/apache2 ?
[07:53] <StrikerMan780> llutz_ I only run as root
[07:53] <llutz_> Kartagis: /etc/init.d or /etc/init
[07:54] <StrikerMan780> It's how it was set up from the start
[07:54] <llutz_> StrikerMan780: it's not, root account is disabled in *buntu by default
[07:54] <almoxarife> oh, did i forget to tell you??? i am always in root
[07:54] <StrikerMan780> *sigh*
[07:54] <StrikerMan780> Exactly
[07:54] <StrikerMan780> it always is running in root
[07:54] <llutz_> StrikerMan780: you are on backtrack ?
[07:55] <StrikerMan780> That's intentional in this case
[07:55] <metaspike> StrikerMan780, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1551871 - i have a feeling it's either permissions erlated as llutz_ suggests, or that you will have to manually fix the relation between bash (preferentially) and sh with a symlink.
[07:55] <almoxarife> metaspike: or its not ubuntu?
[07:55] <Kartagis> llutz_: basically I want to export LANG in it, but /etc/init.d/apache2 didn't do it. /etc/init doesn't have apache2.conf
[07:56] <llutz_> StrikerMan780: don't call for support in this case
[07:57] <llutz_> Kartagis: isn't /etc/apache2/envvars  for that?
[07:57] <StrikerMan780> What do you mean don't call for support? Fuck that
[07:58] <StrikerMan780> I need help, and nobody is willing to simply because the VPS was set to run root as default out of the box?
[07:58] <llutz_> StrikerMan780: lsb_release -sc
[07:58] <pangolin> StrikerMan780: please keep the language clean
[07:58] <StrikerMan780> also, re-did the symlink
[07:58] <StrikerMan780> my prompt looks like this now
[07:58] <StrikerMan780> sh-4.1#
[07:58] <StrikerMan780> Still doesn't work as I wanted it to
[07:59] <Ascavasaion> My installation keeps freezing on me.  It boots, and runs for varying times and then just freezes.  Can someone tell me how to run a harddisk check?
[07:59] <StrikerMan780> normally, it should look like this: root@shadowmavericks:~#
[07:59] <Kartagis> seems to have worked
[07:59] <Kartagis> thanks llutz_
[07:59] <llutz_> StrikerMan780: setup a user, add the user to admin-group, work as user.
[07:59] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: check your ram too, memory
[07:59] <StrikerMan780> lucid
[07:59] <Kartagis> !language | StrikerMan780
[07:59] <StrikerMan780> That's just dodging the problem at hand
[08:00] <Ascavasaion> almoxarife: HOw would I check it?  Take all RAM out, then put one back, boot and leave it to run, then add one and leave it running etc.?
[08:01] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: there is the memory check option on the grub menu, something that can be done at startup, also your machine must have it in the bios menu
[08:01] <llutz_> StrikerMan780: ask you vps-provider for support, they changed the installation defaults (of course, they had to)
[08:01] <llutz_> your*
[08:01] <Ascavasaion> almoxarife: Thank you.
[08:01] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: must/may/hope
[08:01] <zama> sup
[08:01] <StrikerMan780> The thing is
[08:01] <StrikerMan780> It worked perfectly fine a while ago
[08:01] <StrikerMan780> like, 2 days ago
[08:01] <h4ckm3th32nd> whoami
[08:02] <StrikerMan780> Now it is messed up
[08:02] <StrikerMan780> Somehow, I don't think my VPS host can help at all.
[08:02] <alvarezp> I can't get any audio out of parec (pulseaudio). How can I check if everything is ok with PA and ALSA?
[08:02] <llutz_> StrikerMan780: as you are acting as root all the time, what did you change 2 days ago? revert it and you'll be fine
[08:02] <StrikerMan780> I have no idea
[08:03] <StrikerMan780> I really do not
[08:03] <no_gravity> Hello! I have a button on the keyboard of my notebook that toggles between internal and external monitor. However it also toggles between 2 other states in which both monitors are on. So I always have to press it 4 times to toggle between monitors. Is there a way to make it only toggle between notbook-on+external-off and notebook-off+external-on?
[08:03] <llutz_> StrikerMan780: check your history-file, check dpkg/apt logs
[08:03] <StrikerMan780> how would I do that?
[08:04] <almoxarife> alvarezp: sound preferences menu has a audio check option
[08:04] <alvarezp> almoxarife, oh, forgot to mention. Output is ok. Input is the problem I'm having.
[08:04] <Ascavasaion> almoxarife: It is an Lubuntu machine... no Grub menu appears.  It just goes straight into boot.
[08:05] <llutz_> StrikerMan780: you are root on a vps... you should know those basics. "less .bash_history"  check apt-related logs in /var/log
[08:05] <alvarezp> almoxarife, I didn't get anything from Audacity so I tried parec which records nothing.
[08:05] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: how about in the bios?
[08:05] <Ascavasaion> almoxarife: No :(
[08:05] <StrikerMan780> llutz_: I know a bit of linux, but, I am no guru... do I sense some condescending tone here?
[08:06] <StrikerMan780> I got this VPS to host game servers, which has done well for me those 2 days before, but, now, it's just... broken.
[08:07] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: i wont tell you how to configure grub, not comfortable doing it, but grub can be configured to allow you the time you need to use the 'check mem' option
[08:07] <llutz_> StrikerMan780: how to read/check textfiles has nothing to do with being a guru, thats basic knowledge you need to have
[08:07] <zykotick9> alvarezp: are you trying to record from a microphone, or some other source?
[08:07] <StrikerMan780> Well, this "basic knowlege" isn't very easy to come by, now is it?
[08:08] <StrikerMan780> I know how to read text files
[08:08] <magn3ts> Here's a question...
[08:08] <StrikerMan780> I want to know what ones I should be reading
[08:08] <StrikerMan780> and where they are located
[08:08] <magn3ts> ls shows an executable file in my directory called "adb". When I do "./adb" it says no such file or directory.
[08:08] <magn3ts> What is up with that. eh?
[08:08] <StrikerMan780> I thought that was obvious
[08:08] <alvarezp> zykotick9, this is a laptop with an integrated mic and an external mic input. I have a mixer connected to the external mic input.
[08:09] <llutz_> StrikerMan780: i already told you
[08:09] <almoxarife> StrikerMan780: perhaps you need to use 'i would like' versus 'i want'
[08:09] <Ascavasaion> almoxarife: Nevermind Grub hehehe  The machine does not even boot anymore.  It starts up, BIOS shows devices etc and then where it usually would say "Starting Windows" or whatever on a Windows machine it just reboots, over and over and over.
[08:09] <zykotick9> magn3ts: are you using a 64bit OS?  you'll get that error sometimes trying to execute 32bit binaries.  "file adb" will tell you what it is.
[08:09] <mickster04> hey can someone tell the NZ Ubuntu admins that their update servers are acting up again?
[08:11] <hlias_> μπορειπει καποιος γιατι οταν κανω κατεβασμα με bittorrent (ΔΙΑΝΟΜΗ LINUX) γινεται αποσυνδεση απο το internet,θελει καποια ρυθμηση;
[08:11] <urlin2u> !ru | hlias_
[08:11] <StrikerMan780> There, posted the result http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1910278
[08:11] <llutz_> !gr | Hlias
[08:11] <almoxarife> !gr
[08:12] <almoxarife> it looks like greek to me :)
[08:12] <llutz_> yamas
[08:12] <urlin2u> almoxarife, I couldn't tell lol.
[08:12] <Ascavasaion> hehehe almoxarife
[08:12] <StrikerMan780> argh
[08:12] <StrikerMan780> it cut off
[08:12] <almoxarife> its all greek sometimes
[08:13] <StrikerMan780> making a new post
[08:13] <magn3ts> zykotick9: >_> thanks
[08:13] <adnew> ሃሎ ዓማርኛ
[08:13] <magn3ts> zykotick9: keep forgetting I reinstalled a couple days ago and don't have everything back. :O
[08:13] <hlias_> μπορειπει καποιος γιατι οταν κανω κατεβασμα με bittorrent (ΔΙΑΝΟΜΗ LINUX) γινεται αποσυνδεση απο το internet,θελειμπορειπει καποιος γιατι οταν κανω κατεβασμα με bittorrent (ΔΙΑΝΟΜΗ LINUX) γινεται αποσυνδεση απο το internet,θελει καποια ρυθμηση; καποια ρυθμηση;
[08:13] <almoxarife> !il | adnew
[08:14] <almoxarife> ?
[08:14] <llutz_> !en | hlias_
[08:15] <adnew> that is an Amharich alphabet
[08:17] <almoxarife> what is the snapshot version of 'top' ??
[08:18] <llutz_> almoxarife: "top -b" ?
[08:18] <StrikerMan780> There http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11617596#post11617596
[08:18] <almoxarife> llutz_: thnks
[08:19] <almoxarife> llutz_: nope, the process continues till i stop it
[08:20] <llutz_> almoxarife: "top -b -n1 " man top
[08:22] <almoxarife> llutz_: ahh, i had looked (man top) prior, i didnt know what an 'iteration' was, that did it
[08:34] <shcherbak>  /quit
[08:34] <Ascavasaion> South Africa here.
[08:35] <mickster04> welcome you great urugby nation you
[08:36] <mickster04> rugby*
[08:37] <mickster04> NZ fyi
[08:39] <opalepatrick> trying to install evolution-rss for 3.2.1 but see a bug reported. Where can I find the reported fix?
[08:44] <karl-augustt> can someone explain me what entend by mirrors?
[08:45] <Ascavasaion> entend?  I think what you want to know is what a mirror is.  A mirror is a server that has the same files as the main Ubuntu servers.  It takes the load of the main server and because you can choose  a mirror closer to you
[08:45] <Ascavasaion> entend?  I think what you want to know is what a mirror is.  A mirror is a server that has the same files as the main Ubuntu servers.  It takes the load of the main server and because you can choose  a mirror closer to you you can download quicker.
[08:46] <Ascavasaion> karl-augustt: entend?  I think what you want to know is what a mirror is.  A mirror is a server that has the same files as the main Ubuntu servers.  It takes the load of the main server and because you can choose  a mirror closer to you you can download quicker.
[08:46] <Ascavasaion> Sorry about the repeating... I botched up over and over hehe
[08:46] <bkerensa> =o
[08:47] <almoxarife> opalepatrick: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-rss/+bug/873943/comments/7
[08:47] <opalepatrick> thanks almoxarife just got the proposed update
[08:55] <ft_mn> Hi, may sombody explain me how https works??
[08:55] <karl-augustt> thank you very much Ascavasaion!!!
[08:55] <karl-augustt> thank you very much Ascavasaion!!!
[08:56] <ft_mn> Hi, may somebody explain me how https works, or tell me where to refer for an answer??
[08:56] <llutz_> ft_mn: offtopic here, see wikipedia about https (hypertext transfer protocol secure)
[08:56] <Ascavasaion> ft_mn: Try google it?
[08:57] <Ivoz> ft_mn: you establish a a TLS tunnel with the server behind the domain you want to fetch from, and then communicate with it over HTTP through that tunnel
[08:57] <ft_mn> Ivoz: is it possible private chat?
[08:57] <Ascavasaion> karl-augustt: You are welcome.
[08:57] <mickster04> !pm
[08:57] <Ivoz> ft_mn: no
[08:58] <bkerensa> !offtopic
[08:59] <kryl99> ps ax
[08:59] <Shakyj> Hi, I have a server running UBUTNU 11.10. Cron does not run on it though. No Logs in /var/log/messages and there is no /etc/syslog.conf file. Is the file called a different name in ubuntu 11.10?
[09:00] <thinkclay> Getting black screen when trying to install Ubuntu Server 11.10 on custom server. I already tried the 'nomodeset' flag and it's still occurring. Gotta be a video card driver issue.. any ideas?
[09:00] <llutz_> Shakyj: /etc/rsyslog.d/* and /etc/rsyslog.conf
[09:00] <Shakyj> cheers llutz
[09:00] <ft_mn> Ivoz: :) ok then, so can you explain me something.... in an SSL connection, there is a key which all the transaction is encoded with... im wondering, how somebody is secure from a 'hacker', i mean it is pretty possible for the hacker to sniff the key right? Or there is a part Im missing?
[09:01] <Ivoz> ft_mn: public key cryptography solves that problem. Wikipedia it
[09:01] <llutz_> ft_mn: thats what certificates are for and why you shouldn't trust selfsigned or outdated ones.
[09:01] <Ivoz> that problem is called the key distribution problem
[09:01] <htdutchy> thinkclay: since it's custom have you tested with a different OS/older version and verified that all the components are working?
[09:02] <thinkclay> I have, no problems with installing centos
[09:03] <thinkclay> should I try alt install cd?
[09:03] <htdutchy> thinkclay: and with ubuntu 10.04?
[09:03] <ft_mn> Ivoz,llutz_:  yes i know that part as well, but the hacker can sniff the key as well right? The server always send the public key to the client, which key is always the same
[09:03] <thinkclay> no, havent tried any other ubuntu version
[09:04] <bkerensa> ft_mn: This is not the appropriate channel for support on general topics like SSL. Please use other resources for such support.
[09:04] <ft_mn> bkerensa: ok pall
[09:04] <thinkclay> htdutchy: I assume the amd64 would support intel 5560 chips still right? Is there a hardware compat list anywhere?
[09:04] <Ivoz> ft_mn: as llutz said, key signing through certificates solves the problem of authenticity. wikipeia certificate authority
[09:05] <ft_mn> Ivoz: ok
[09:06] <ft_mn> Ivoz: one last question plz.. So the certificate autority certifies what exactly?
[09:06] <htdutchy> thinkclay: allmost all chips should be supported, the only list (I could find quickly) is for of the shelf computers http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/validatedhardware
[09:07] <ft_mn> Ivoz: I mean in detail,(beyond the topic<<Your connection you have established is with the certified server>>)?
[09:07] <bkerensa> !offtopic | ft_mn
[09:07] <ft_mn> ok bkerensa, i didnt know that #ubuntu-offtopic exists, thank you guys
[09:08] <Ivoz> ft_mn: read wikipedia. I'm not going to sit down and explain it to you for shits and giggles
[09:08] <thinkclay> htdutchy: any way to select a default vesa driver before proceeding with live cd? I think that would solve the problem
[09:09] <htdutchy> thinkclay: It might, but that goes a bit beyond me so I can't help you with that...
[09:10] <thinkclay> anyone else have ideas on either selecting a default video driver or an alternative installer that's text based?
[09:11] <almoxarife> i created a cron job as 'root' , should not have, now i want to remove it, where would i look?
[09:11] <thinkclay> crontab -e
[09:11] <ft_mn> Ivoz: I thought that this is the reason you people exist in this channel, to share knowledge
[09:13] <pangolin> ft_mn: We are volunteers and explaining how https works is not on topic for #ubuntu
[09:13] <almoxarife> thinkclay: i must need sudo, it was created as sudo
[09:13] <thinkclay> almoxarife: yes sudo as whatever user created the original
[09:14] <pangolin> Ivoz: please keep the language clean.
[09:14] <IK774> I'm currently testing out Ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop and was wondering if there was a way I could migrate the programs I had previously installed on my Windows OS to Ubuntu
[09:14] <hilarie> IK774, no
[09:14] <hilarie> IK774, well, kinda
[09:14] <thinkclay> IK774: not really, that would be like putting boat parts on a car
[09:15] <Ivoz> ft_mn: this ain't no university course
[09:15] <thinkclay> so anyone know what boot flags i need to get my video driver working to install server 11.10?
[09:16] <pangolin> Ivoz: if you are not in the mood to help politely and without talking down to people please take a break, go do something else.
[09:16] <Chakravanti> IK774, http://appdb.winehq.org/
[09:16] <Chakravanti> search for the program you wish to import so see what support reports are like, there's also crossover
[09:16] <zykotick9> thinkclay: your best bet is probably the alternate (or even better/different mini iso)
[09:17] <Ivoz> pangolin: I just gave him about 6 answers in increasing details, with wikipedia references for more detail in each. But he just does not want to read and thinks I should continue to be a fountain of answers for him; I thought I'd correct that perception
[09:17] <thinkclay> zykotick9: where would I begin looking for those? They used to all be easily accessable from Ubuntu site but I can find nothing of the sort
[09:18] <zykotick9> !alternate
[09:18] <pangolin> Ivoz: i understand your frustration but we are here to help and when we help we are expected to help in the spirit of Ubuntu and within the channel guidelines.
[09:18] <pangolin> !guidelines
[09:21] <htdutchy> !guidelines
[09:26] <jolaren> I've been locked out from my server somehow, if I ssh from my other server then I can connect bt trying from my regular computer gives me errors
[09:27] <llutz_> jolaren: do you have denyhosts or fail2ban installed on the server?
[09:27] <llutz_> jolaren: check iptables-rules and /etc/hosts.deny in that case.
[09:28] <Q_Continuum> Question on installation: can I blacklist a framebuffer from the installation menu at the root of the CD, or do I have to wait for the install to be complete?  (Microsoft's HyperV doesn't work with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS)
[09:28] <Q_Continuum> I can get by with it as-is, just the install menus take 5 times longer.
[09:30] <Azrael> hey folks... it looks like grub on 11.10 has switched over to using a debian theme.  was this an intended ubuntu change?
[09:36] <Slart> Azrael: no debian logo on my grub (11.10 64 bit).. or you meant the colors?
[09:37] <sorry> hi i m sameer
[09:38] <sorry> so what
[09:38] <Azrael> Slart: nope.  its a full debian grub splash screen.
[09:38] <Azrael> Slart: looks like its a result of the desktop-base package.
[09:38] <sorry> kya join
[09:38] <Jokn> There's a link from the main page for the alternate CD downloads.  Its just kind of hidden in there. "additional options"
[09:39] <sorry> dimag pr mt de
[09:39] <Slart> Azrael: ok.. just to make sure I'm not crazy here.. a quick reboot and I'll be back
[09:41] <Qualia> Hi , ITS URGENT please help me! Is it possible to paste the two previously copied text ?
[09:41] <jpds> Qualia: Unless you use a clipboard program, no.
[09:41] <Slart> Azrael: nope, no debian logo, no logo at all actually.. just the black screen with white text
[09:43] <spidermonk> does installing from a .deb add their repository to my sources?
[09:43] <Slart> Azrael: you don't have any weird repositories? installed anything strange? regular desktop ubuntu 11.10?
[09:44] <[deXter]> spidermonk, not if the deb explicitly contains the repo file (generally they dont, but some do for eg: google chrome)
[09:44] <Slart> spidermonk: I don't think so.. it never has done that for me, at least
[09:45] <spidermonk> deXter Slart - thanks. so a less desirable way to install generally. was what I was wondering.
[09:46] <[deXter]> spidermonk, yep, when in doubt always prefer to use the package from the defautl repos; ppa if nessary; deb if no other alternatives; compile - never :P (instead compile to a deb and install that
[09:46] <Azrael> Slart: interesting.  ubuntu 11.10 by default is a purple background, not black.
[09:47] <elbrinke> Hi, how do i change the Ubuntu 11.10 unity launcher icon?
[09:47] <elbrinke> Hi, how do i change the Ubuntu 11.10 unity launcher icon?
[09:47] <Slart> Azrael: hmm.. a dark purple? because that might have been what I saw.. I just thought it was my screen that was odd
[09:47] <Azrael> Slart: no funny repositories installed.  stock.  its just if you install the 'desktop-base' package, then /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme noticies it and uses debian backgrounds
[09:48] <elbrinke> Hi, how do i change the Ubuntu 11.10 unity launcher icon?
[09:48] <elbrinke> Hi, how do i change the Ubuntu 11.10 unity launcher icon?
[09:48] <llutz_> !patience | elbrinke
[09:49] <Slart> Azrael: I don't have the desktop-base package installed... odd that it would set a debian background
[09:50] <Azrael> Slart: looks like thats what happens.  give it a whirl and you'll see what i mean.  if you remove the desktop-base package, the background will revert back to normal.
[09:50] <elbrinke> ubuttu: do you maybe know..?
[09:50] <Slart> Azrael: ah.. might not be that strange after all.. look at the description of desktop-base
[09:50] <Slart> !info desktop-base
[09:51] <Azrael> the package got pulled in autoomatically when i installed XFCE
[09:51] <thinkclay> okay.. so it looks like there is no ubuntu server 11.10 alternate download.. so what would it take getting desktop and converting it to server?
[09:52] <theadmin> thinkclay: Huh? Ubuntu 11.10 has a server edition
[09:52] <thinkclay> yes, but not for ALT cd
[09:52] <Slart> Azrael: than I would start pointing fingers at XFCE ... not sure why they would put a dependency on a debian oriented package
[09:53] <theadmin> thinkclay: Err... The Alternate CD is a text-installer version of the desktop CD... Server is text-based anyway :/
[09:53] <thinkclay> theadmin: i need alt cd for vid driver issues
[09:53] <Slart> thinkclay: I think the server install uses the same installer as the alternate cd
[09:53] <thinkclay> that's what i thought, but I cant get install going.. I get a black screen even with nomodeset flag
[09:54] <theadmin> thinkclay: "nomodeset" is only important for X... Server CD is text-based so it's not important.
[09:54] <theadmin> thinkclay: I think you have a damaged download.
[09:54] <theadmin> thinkclay: Might want to try booting with "v86d.blacklist=1" to disable the framebuffer... Who knows, might help
[09:54] <thinkclay> i did checksum and downloaded 3 times now.. pretty sure thats not the issue
[09:54] <thinkclay> i'll try that
[09:56] <Shakyj> hey, having crontab issues. I have a cron installed. It works if you run the file manually but not through cron. It's not permissions based as the same command as # doesn't work. Not getting anything in logs either. Where do I start? lol
[09:57] <theadmin> Shakyj: Is crond/anacrond/etc running at all?
[09:57] <MSF_> Hi guys.
[09:57] <theadmin> Hi, MSF_
[09:58] <MSF_> Hi Admin. Can I ask for help here?
[09:58] <Shakyj> crond is running
[09:58] <Ascavasaion> MSF_: Just ask buddy.
[09:58] <Shakyj> theadmin, also tried restaring the daemon
[09:58] <[ptr]xyz> Shakyj: what command did you want to run?
[09:58] <Azrael> Slart: agreed.  its strange.  well thanks for your help.
[09:58] <theadmin> Shakyj: Hm then, odd. Can I look at your crontab?
[09:58] <Shakyj> theadmin, tried a hard reboot too
[09:59] <thinkclay> theadmin: v86d.blacklist=1 didn't work.. any other ideas? maybe select a simple vesa driver..?
[09:59] <MSF_> Thanks :). I just installed ubuntu 11.10. I upgraded the video graphics drivers and rebooted the system. After this. Nothing is respoding.
[09:59] <[ptr]xyz> send a pastebin link to your crontab please.
[09:59] <Shakyj> theadmin, */1 * * * * /usr/bin/php /home/user/public_html/functional_scripts/run.php
[09:59] <thinkclay> MSF: you're running into similar issue as me :)
[09:59] <Guest74466> what's the correct way to identify which version of Ubuntu I have?
[09:59] <Slart> Azrael: xfce only "recommends" desktop-base, it's not a dependency
[09:59] <MSF_> The mouse is not responding.
[09:59] <theadmin> Shakyj: That looks about right
[10:00] <theadmin> Shakyj: No idea
[10:00] <thinkclay> MSF: so it boots fine just no mouse functionality?
[10:00] <llutz_> Guest74466: lsb_release -a
[10:00] <MSF_> thinkclay: I tried to update the kernel, nothing happened.
[10:00] <MSF_> No mouse clicks. No Keyboard events except for CTRL+ALT+F2
[10:00] <MSF_> Nothing is opening.
[10:00] <colo-work> hey all
[10:01] <Shakyj> theadmin, thanks anyway. That's exactly the conclusion I came to :/
[10:01] <colo-work> how can I get THunderbird 9.0 on Ubuntu 11.10?
[10:01] <colo-work> (or rather, THunderbird 9.0.1)
[10:01] <thinkclay> MSF: hmm, not the same problem as me.. sorry not sure where to go to diagnose that
[10:01] <mohsinhijazee> what should be the size for /boot parition?
[10:01] <MSF_> Thanks thinkclay.
[10:01] <Guest74466> llutz, I have 11.10.  That's the latest one right?
[10:02] <llutz_> Guest74466: yes
[10:02] <Flizzop> hi
[10:03] <Flizzop> umm so, I got my broadcom 4311's driver installed correctly
[10:03] <llutz_> mohsinhijazee: sure you really need extra /boot? about 100MB should be enough, depends on how many kernel you want to keep
[10:03] <Flizzop> but my thing still says that the firmware is missing
[10:03] <MSF_> Ascavasaion: Can you please direct me to the correct direction?
[10:06] <MSF_> My problem: After login, nothing is responding. The mouse if moving, but with clicks. Only thing working is CTRL+ALT+F2
[10:07] <HaltingState2> help; i am on last nerve
[10:07] <HaltingState2> i have been trying to install xp from ubuntu for 20 hours now
[10:08] <MSF_> Halting: Use WUBI
[10:08] <HaltingState2> i have an iso and need to burn it to a usb, but the usb is not bootable and it says to insert bootable floppy
[10:09] <llutz_> HaltingState2: wodim -dao /path/to/xp.iso
[10:09] <HaltingState2> llutz, i can use wodim to burn iso to usb?
[10:09] <llutz_> HaltingState2: wait, usb? you want to install xp from usb?
[10:09] <lahwran> it's possible
[10:10] <HaltingState2> i have not had  cd rom drive in 8 years
[10:10] <lahwran> not easy, though
[10:10] <HaltingState2> you can use unetbootin or whatver; but it takes FOREVER to copy the files to the usb, like 15 hours
[10:10] <bakhtiyor> hi, how to see which desktop environment I am using in ubuntu?
[10:10] <bakhtiyor> thanks in advance
[10:11] <HaltingState2> I tried using multisystem but the drive is not bootable; wtf
[10:11] <bakhtiyor> is there any command to check it
[10:13] <thinkclay> Okay.. anyone help with this one: My video card in this server is seriously low end.. 2d graphics.. really need to keep graphics minimal.. What boot flags do i set? And am I setting them correctly before booting by hitting F6 and setting to expert mode and then adding in string to the boot options?
[10:13] <ekakela_> thinkclay: You running X in server?
[10:13] <thinkclay> running X?
[10:14] <ekakela_> I'd prefer to keep it console enviroment only, no graphical desktop at all
[10:14] <ekakela_> Easier with low end hardware
[10:14] <thinkclay> ya I would
[10:14] <thinkclay> How do i do that?
[10:14] <ekakela_> Just choose during installation not to install it
[10:14] <lahwran> I think he may have installed ubuntu desktop
[10:14] <mebius01> А по русски тут говорят?
[10:14] <ekakela_> as far as I remember, ubuntu-server installation doesn't even try install it.
[10:14] <thinkclay> No I didnt
[10:14] <thinkclay> Nothing installed
[10:14] <thinkclay> Cant get to install screen
[10:15] <thinkclay> I get the ubuntu boot (1st screen when booting from CD) and then black screen no matter what I do to proceed
[10:15] <ekakela_> Hmmh, download yourself the ubuntu-server image and install it in expert mode, doesn't have so much grahics
[10:16] <thinkclay> I've run Ubuntu Server like a pro in VM enviroments, but this is my first physical box
[10:16] <ekakela_> but your problem sounds more like broken cd :D
[10:17] <thinkclay> ekakela_: second time I've heard the broken CD bit tonight.. I'm installing from a DVD that I burnt.. downloaded image matches checksum
[10:18] <theadmin> !ru | mebius01
[10:18] <ekakela_> thinkclay: checksum match doesn't mean the disk itself wouldn't be broken or the diskreader
[10:19] <ekakela_> Since you said that server has so crappy graphics card, have to ask : does it even have a dvd-reader or just cd?
[10:19] <thinkclay> ekakela_: I burnt with mac.. let it verify and everything. I'll try again tho. It has DVD reader :)
[10:19] <ekakela_> thinkclay: Do you have option to try with USB-stick?
[10:19] <thinkclay> this is my server MB http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/results.cfm
[10:20] <ekakela_> and what image did you burn?
[10:20] <thinkclay> I could.. didnt really want to go through the hassle of making a bootable USB
[10:20] <thinkclay> I burnt server 11.10
[10:20] <ekakela_> Okay, well it shouldn't be too heavy to boot with even that hardware :D
[10:21] <DaveWM> I like to use the mini.iso's  does any type of install you want in low graphics mode and has t he expert option... everything gets downloaded as you go,  so you probably want to have a good connection and networking hardware that's known by the installer
[10:21] <thinkclay> I have 10.04 sitting around and I know that cd works, Ill try that and see if I get same issue
[10:21] <DaveWM> I think I may have too many ubuntu cd's
[10:21] <thinkclay> DaveWM: where do you get them?
[10:22] <DaveWM> just google "ubuntu mini.iso"
[10:22] <llutz_> !mini
[10:22] <DaveWM> they are basically what debian calls its netinst/ net installer cd... just with ubuntu
[10:22] <DaveWM> like a 50mb image
[10:23] <thinkclay> DaveWM: cool, I'll give that a shot next
[10:24] <DaveWM> expert mode isnt very complicated either,  half the steps you can just sort of skip right on through hitting enter...  just wanna pay close attention when you get to the disk configuration
[10:24] <DaveWM> heh
[10:24] <lahwran> anyone know of a really good todo/note taker program? alternately, a very minimal text editor I can set to automatically open my todo at startup
[10:24] <lahwran> speed is a priority (tomboy notes is slooooow)
[10:24] <thinkclay> DaveWM: expert mode doesnt intimidate me.. but I cant even get to that.. still just black screen no matter what flags i set
[10:25] <DaveWM> ah
[10:25] <llutz_> lahwran: alias todo="vi ~/mytodo.txt"
[10:25] <DaveWM> I mostly like the mini.iso cause its a nice way to get a minimal install and work your way up to a very tight system if you're trying to spare resources
[10:26] <lahwran> llutz_: but that's CLI, I'd prefer a gui, perhaps something I can stick on gnome-panel
[10:26] <DaveWM> that's when I'll skip all the install tasks on tasksel and just boot into terminal and apt-get --no-install-recommends my way to get what i need
[10:27] <llutz_> lahwran: create a starter then, start "gedit ~/mytodo.txt"
[10:27] <thinkclay> DaveWM: cool, this sounds like what I want too. Just hope I can see it ::
[10:27] <lahwran> ...perhaps...
[10:28] <lahwran> thing is, I use gedit regularly, and I'd like it if the thing I use todo has it's own taskbar spot
[10:30] <IamTrying> Any idea this microphone is supported or not? http://www.bluemic.com/icicle/
[10:31] <muh2000> hi all
[10:31] <muh2000> i have an issue, the icon of audacious is missing in the tray. the space is reserved but the logo of audacious is not visible
[10:36] <karl-augustt> on ubuntu , in multitude sofwares for virtualisation, which is the best for ubuntu? which is the best for OS creation?
[10:37] <thinkclay> I cannot believe this.. even CLI mode installer gives me black screen. What the heck?!
[10:37] <DaveWM> thinkclay: time to check your bios for odd settings
[10:37] <DaveWM> thinkclay: what are you trying to install on ?
[10:38] <DaveWM> "is the monitor turned on?"...  lol
[10:38] <DaveWM> j/k
[10:38] <thinkclay> DaveWM: haha
[10:38] <thinkclay> DaveWM: went through the checklist.. the closest I get is if I choose the Expert install CLI i see one more screen with some loading of binaries or something and then black
[10:39] <thinkclay> cant be bios.. the boot for the Mini comes up
[10:39] <thinkclay> So it's working in terms of showing up.. and only thing i did in bios was setup a raid array
[10:39] <DaveWM> is this a really old system ?
[10:39] <thinkclay> no, just purchased.. lemme find link
[10:40] <DaveWM> I wonder if your raid setup is messing with it
[10:40] <karl-augustt> muh2000, explain, do not you distinguish any particularly  aspect on one?
[10:40] <muh2000> karl-augustt: wut?
[10:41] <DaveWM> gotta eliminate as many factors as possible,  remove/disable any hardware you arent using then give it another go.. that's the only advice I could come up with
[10:41] <suleman> hi
[10:42] <thinkclay> DaveWM: I just cant imagine that's the issue.. installer doesnt even address drives until later.
[10:42] <suleman> how to use webcam with empathy
[10:42] <thinkclay> here's the server http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101261 with cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117256
[10:43] <karl-augustt> on ubuntu , in multitude sofwares for virtualisation, which is the best for ubuntu? which is the best for OS creation?
[10:43] <DaveWM> yeah,  that sounds logical thinkclay,  but I'd never feel certain until I disabled it and tried to run the installer
[10:44] <muh2000> karl-augustt: you want virtual machines on your computer?
[10:44] <thinkclay> bleh, I guess I go back to CentOS or gentoo for now
[10:44] <karl-augustt> muh2000, excuse me I think a moment you were answering to me.
[10:44] <Gentoo64> karl-augustt, just use virtualbox
[10:45] <Gentoo64> its easy and fast
[10:45] <karl-augustt> exactly!
[10:45] <karl-augustt> exactly!, muh2000
[10:47] <karl-augustt> please , which version of virtualbox is the best , ose or suse?
[10:47] <muh2000> karl-augustt: use VirtualBox
[10:47] <muh2000> suse is another distribution.
[10:47] <Gentoo64> karl-augustt, use whatever one ubuntu includes
[10:47] <muh2000> there is only one version left.
[10:47] <mutante> hi, got a lucid install and universe is enabled in sources.list. i cant find the packages for request-tracker4* / rt4* on the box though, using apt/apt-cache etc.. at the same i see them like here: http://mirror.fiber.net/ubuntu-lucid/pool/universe/r/request-tracker4/   and then again on the other hand:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/request-tracker4/+builds "No build records. "
[10:48] <Gentoo64> with the ose youll need the extension pack manually
[10:48] <Gentoo64> otherwise theyre the same
[10:51] <karl-augustt> Gentoo64,  how to install the suse version , for not have to install extension pack manually?
[10:51] <Gentoo64> !virtualbox
[10:51] <Gentoo64> just use "virtualbox"
[10:53] <NorbyDaniel> I am trying to access a folder but it says permission denied.  It needs root access.  How do I get root access?
[10:53] <NorbyDaniel> I am running Lubuntu 11.10
[10:54] <Gentoo64> NorbyDaniel, what are you trying to do in the folder
[10:54] <Gentoo64> edit something?
[10:54] <NorbyDaniel> Read a log file to find out how to install vmware workstation 7.1.5
[10:54] <pdfman> trying to run live cd it stops at kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10
[10:54] <Gentoo64> ok if cat /file dont work use sudo cat
[10:54] <Crypticfortune> Launchpad question: where can I find a list of what "series" are valid build targets? leaving debian-style "unstable" in debian/changelog fails to build on launchpad (had to change unstable->oneiric before, but what are other valid names?)
[10:55] <NorbyDaniel> I am trying to install vmware and it stops with error and I cannot get to that log file because, as far as I can tell it wants root access.
[10:55] <Gentoo64> use sudo cat /logfile
[10:55] <Crypticfortune> i suppose #launchpad might be the more appropriate place for that question, sorry *^^*
[10:56] <karl-augustt> and pastebin the logfile, NorbyDaniel!
[10:56] <theadmin> Crypticfortune: Any valid Ubuntu names will work (Currently, stable is Oneiric, unstable is Precise and lts is Lucid)
[10:56] <thinkclay> DaveWM: aha got a little farther with set gfxpayload=text and vesafb.nonsense=1 (odd flags) so it's a start  :)
[10:57] <DaveWM> thinkclay: maybe you need to set the console as well
[10:58] <Crypticfortune> theadmin: so there's no generic names? ie I need a separate changelog for each build (even if the same package works in any of the above?)
[10:58] <NorbyDaniel> "sudo cat" does nothing.  "sudo cat /logfile" stops with not found error.
[10:58] <theadmin> Crypticfortune: Yeah, Ubuntu has no generic names, sadly.
[10:58] <Gentoo64> NorbyDaniel, wheres the log file?
[10:58] <theadmin> Crypticfortune: Unless some were implemented for launchpad, idk
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> NorbyDaniel: users usually have at least read access to all files, so sudo isn't needed
[10:58] <thinkclay> You may be right about the raid array too.. though since my controller and bios are handling I dont know why that would be an issue. Still, going to take your suggestion and destroy the array and see what happens http://www.howtoforge.com/install-ubuntu-with-software-raid-10
[10:58] <NorbyDaniel> /tmp/vmware-root
[10:58] <Gentoo64> its prob owned by some group
[10:58] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Meh not all files
[10:59] <karl-augustt> no, NorbyDaniel,
[10:59] <DaveWM> thinkclay: does it seem like there is still activity going on just the screen is blank?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: the vast majority
[10:59] <karl-augustt> the log file is in /var/log/file
[10:59] <DaveWM> or you think it just gets completely stuck somewhere?
[10:59] <Gentoo64> ActionParsnip, a lot of logs have their own owners
[10:59] <Crypticfortune> theadmin: hmmms, well, thanks for the info!
[10:59] <thinkclay> DaveWM: no everything halts.. it's def hung up, and logs suggest raid issues.. failing on allocating "slabs"
[11:00] <NorbyDaniel> Unable to build kernel module.
[11:00] <NorbyDaniel> See log file /tmp/vmware-root/setup-18245.log for details.
[11:00] <ashd> join #mailscanner
[11:00] <k3Rn> hi
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: sure but you'll probably find that they are o+r ;)
[11:00] <DaveWM> thinkclay: ah... was about to suggest maybe passing it off to a serial console
[11:00] <DaveWM> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/configure-kernel.html
[11:01] <k3Rn> i got a problem with my NFS shares. I have several clients that access the share, on the clients the UIs and GIDs doesn't match. -> http://pastebin.com/8S29aMC3
[11:01] <html> !ubuntu tv
[11:01] <mutante> !package request-tracker4
[11:01] <k3Rn> i know it's not ubuntu related, should i post the question somewhere else? i coudn't find a NFS channel :)
[11:02] <html> you can ask so you can be redirceted
[11:02] <html> you can ask so you can be redirceted k3Rn
[11:03] <k3Rn> html: you know a god place for my question/problem?
[11:03] <k3Rn> *good
[11:05] <thinkclay> Anyone have experience with hardware raids and ubuntu server? Looks like support is shoddy, and kinda kills some of the perks of hot swapping and such even if I CAN get it working on a software level
[11:07] <DarsVaeda1> hi, can't start synaptic from starter in unity (11.10) anymore? get password request but then program does not pop up, from console works just fine
[11:09] <html> k3Rn,  what is it? an Pm me it
[11:09] <pdfman> Any hints on freezing kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10 please?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> DarsVaeda1: I'd suggest you edit /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop    (or similar, not sure of the exact file) and change the exec line to:  Exec=gksudo synaptic
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> thinkclay: I'd ask in #ubuntu-server
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> pdfman: is your RAM healthy?
[11:11] <DarsVaeda1> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:13] <DarsVaeda> ActionParsnip: that worked quite well
[11:13] <DarsVaeda> wonder why it is not gksudo in the first place...
[11:13] <html> !raid
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> DarsVaeda: its supposed to use polkit, I guess its not working but that's one way to sidestep it :)
[11:14] <pdfman> ActionParsnip : yes they are healthy
[11:14] <html> !raid|thinkclay
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> pdfman: when did you last test it?
[11:15] <pdfman> ActionParsnip: I have windows running on the machine
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> pdfman: Windows may manage bad RAM and Linux not, use memtest from Grub. Even a quick few tests will show issues. Use ESC to reboot after a few of the tests have ran. Red is bad
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest78740
[11:16] <Duality> how can i controle a pc over the internet with ssh? i know how to setup a filesever with ssh if that helps me :)
[11:17] <pdfman> ActionParsnip: does it run on a bootable device
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Duality: install openssh-server and port forward port 22 TCP on your router to the PCs IP running the service
[11:17] <html> thinkclay,  i pm you a starting points so you can have them as a refference and a place to fall back to
[11:17] <llutz_> Duality: do you know how to control a pc local from commandline? same thing
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> pdfman: its part of the default install
[11:18] <pdfman> ActionParsnip: but I donot get that far
[11:18] <Duality> one pluss it's got already running ssh-server, sow how do i controle command line? do i need a client?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> pdfman: hold shift at boot, you will see the grub menu, select memtest from there
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Duality: ubuntu comes with a client, you can use putty from windows
[11:18] <pdfman> ActionParsnip: ok will do and get back again with results
[11:19] <html> !openssh server
[11:19] <Duality> ow cool, i just enter my externip:22 and then i can access :)? with terminal server client, or is it a other app?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Duality: if you connect from a linux system with a desktop (or a windows pc running xming), you can run GUI apps and they will appear on the client desktop much like Citrix
[11:19] <html> !openssh
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Duality: yes exactly, ssh will default to port 22 unless you tell it otherwise
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Duality: you will use:  ssh username@wanip   and it will connect and ask for your password on the server for username
[11:21] <Duality> sow it's easier then I thought then :)
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Duality: most things are in Linux
[11:22] <Duality> setting a computer as network switch/router was always such a strugle to until i discovered linux :)
[11:28] <trapni> hey guys. how do I get to know *which* package a specific file (e.g. /usr/bin/blah) belongs to?
[11:29] <llutz_> trapni: dpkg -S file
[11:30] <theadmin> trapni: apt-file for packages which are not installed. Or what llutz_ said for those which are
[11:30] <United7> I have hooked up my Samsung Galaxy S2 with Ubuntu to check the photos and videos taken in the phone. But when I enter the DCIM folder..it is empty...how to check the content of the DCIM folders ?
[11:30] <theadmin> United7: Um, stuff is normally there, maybe it just saves photos elsewhere?
[11:31] <theadmin> United7: Works for me... I have a S Plus though
[11:31] <trapni> llutz_: seems to work. many thanks :)
[11:31] <United7> I have checked the photos & videos from the same folder in Windows 7..all the items are there
[11:32] <html> 11.10 server install is having trouble, i want to get raid going , but i also think that the graghics are being fussy
[11:33] <United7> I can see on top of the bar that..Open Banshee Media Player :- These files are on a digital  audio player
[11:36] <zoufeng> 我的Ubuntu 11.10右击桌面没有反应
[11:36] <United7> Do I need to do anything ?
[11:37] <United7> let me try the solution given here :- http://askubuntu.com/questions/88552/can-not-access-files-in-any-folder-on-samsung-galaxy-sii
[11:38] <Duality> another question what is a good driver for ati? in linux. i've got a ati radeon mobility x1300 card in my laptop but is no driver available for it... don't need much acceleration just want to be able to scroll normaly :)
[11:39] <aruncn1> hi guys, I have installed my root, swap, and '/' partitions on my 4GB flash drive. and I am using my hard disk to store user data. Does this increase my speed/performance? Can I continue with this config instead of using HDD for OS?
[11:39] <llutz_> aruncn1: usb flash-drive?
[11:40] <aruncn1> yep
[11:40] <batata> français????
[11:40] <ikonia> window
[11:40] <llutz_> aruncn1: faster than internal hdd? i doubt that
[11:40] <DJones> !fr | batata
[11:40] <batata> who speek frensh plz
[11:40] <ikonia> oops
[11:40] <batata> ubottu merci thikx
[11:41] <aruncn1> llutz_: hmm.. lemme check the speeds of both usb drive and hard drive
[11:42] <mrd_> i need to run cisco pressbook cd in ubuntu iam not able to run i any one can help ???
[11:42] <llutz_> aruncn1: if you want to speedup the OS, buy a SSD-drive
[11:42] <mrd_> i need to run cisco pressbook cd in ubuntu iam not able to run  in wine any one can help ???
[11:43] <aruncn1> llutz: yeah dats a good idea.. few servers in our organization also use ssd drives
[11:43] <llutz_> aruncn1: just make sure to backup daily, SSDs tend to fail
[11:44] <mrd_> i need to run cisco pressbook cd in ubuntu iam not able to run  in wine any one can help ???
[11:44] <mrd_> i need to run cisco pressbook cd in ubuntu iam not able to run  in wine any one can help ???
[11:44] <mrd_> i need to run cisco pressbook cd in ubuntu iam not able to run  in wine any one can help ???
[11:44] <FloodBot1> mrd_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:44] <llutz_> !patience | mrd_
[11:44] <GeorgeJ> Considering a dual-monitor setup under ubuntu 11.10 running unity. How does one switch workspaces sepparetely on each monitor?
[11:44] <echo083> hello, how do i know if my computer will support 3To ?
[11:45] <DJones> mrd_: You need to ask in #winehq, it may take a while to get an answer, but they're the best people to ask
[11:46] <pdfman> how long does it take to install ubuntu 11.10?
[11:46] <mrd_> wine hq its been 4 days
[11:47] <mrd_> that fools are not doing any thing
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> mrd_  maybe this helps http://tools.cisco.com/search/JSP/search-results.get?strQueryText=linux&Search+All+Cisco.com=cisco.com
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> it's linux related, not pressbook related
[11:49] <_apostate_> pdfman: takes me abotu 20-30 minutes
[11:50] <echo083> nobody :'(
[11:50] <pdfman> my installation looks stock at keyboard layout page
[11:50] <DJones> echo083: What is 3To ?
[11:50] <pdfman> with thw cursor animating
[11:51] <echo083> DJones, ohhh 3Tb in english i think !
[11:51] <echo083> DJones, Tera bytes
[11:51] <DJones> echo083: Do you mean 3Tb hard drives?
[11:51] <echo083> DJones, yep !
[11:52] <DJones> echo083: I've not used anything that size, but this link may help http://askubuntu.com/questions/56619/does-ubuntu-support-3tb-or-more-hard-drive-sizes
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> pdfman  a basic install less than 20 minutes, even
[11:53] <DJones> echo083: This seems to explain more http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1908753
[11:53] <echo083> DJones, you saved me money thanks !! i can't format this computer to install this bios_grub partition
[11:54] <echo083> DJones, i never imagined my 2Tb would be full !!
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> what do you fill it with?
[11:55] <echo083> MonkeyDust, professional backup ! i 3d models
[11:55] <pdfman> MonkeyDust: my installation is stock on keyboard for more then 20 minutes
[11:56] <echo083> DJones, thanks for your help
[11:56] <echo083> DJones, bye
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> pdfman  try again, then!
[11:57] <pdfman> MonkeyDust:Ok,if thats what i have to do
[11:57] <dury> hi there channel :)
[12:00] <DragonSlay> suggest a very light weight desktop environment.
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> jwm
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> !info jwm
[12:02] <frank_> hellp
[12:03] <DragonSlay> MonkeyDust, wow, amazing. it supports gtk+ apps?
[12:03] <dury> 11.04 release comes with Eclipse sdk version 3.5.2 package. is it compatible with android-sdk_r16-linux.tgz?
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> DragonSlay  havent tried, i use it for ssh coonections
[12:03] <LjL> GTK+ apps don't need window manager support to work
[12:04] <DragonSlay> gnome packs with gtk+ support right?
[12:05] <html> unity seems to be stoping my install on 11.10 server ... is there a way around this
[12:05] <LjL> DragonSlay: GNOME is GTK+ based, but that doesn't mean DEs that aren't worn't run GTK+ apps.
[12:05] <LjL> GTK+ apps run fine in my KDE for instance.
[12:05] <jrib> html: you're trying to install 11.10 server edition?
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> html  a server with a gui?
[12:10] <html> MonkeyDust, jrib   this is for thinkclay  he is the one thats having trouble....  and i think also its a gui
[12:10] <html> !cli
[12:14] <html> MonkeyDust, cli is what im doing
[12:14] <html> jrib,  cli is what im doing  and yes
[12:20] <DragonSlay> how to set the default login manager
[12:21] <DragonSlay> i set slim instead of gdm , now i need to change it back to gdm.
[12:21] <theadmin> DragonSlay: If multiple are installed, use "sudo dpkg --configure gdm"
[12:21] <llutz_> DragonSlay: sudo dpkg-reconfigure yourpreffereddm
[12:21] <theadmin> DragonSlay: Or such
[12:21] <theadmin> Oh, reconfigure
[12:21] <theadmin> Okay
[12:23] <DragonSlay> theadmin, llutz_ thank you. :) worked.
[12:25] <zombie_monkey> hi, I'm installing ubuntu and shrinking an NTFS partition to free up space for it, but the cursor stops spinning and the light for HDD activity stops blinking if I don't move the mouse every few soconds, sems weird?
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> zombie_monkey  what do you use to shrink the partition?
[12:29] <zombie_monkey> the screen that comes up after you pick "install" from the initial prompt?
[12:29] <zombie_monkey> when you select the third option
[12:30] <zombie_monkey> not install ubuntu alongside windows or wipe the HDD and install ubuntu
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> zombie_monkey  you mean the partitioner of the ubuntu installer?
[12:31] <zombie_monkey> yeah
[12:31] <z3r0c007> hello
[12:31] <zombie_monkey> well it's finished now, it was just strange that it was only working when I was moving the mouse
[12:31] <z3r0c007> can you help me
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> shoot, z3r0c007
[12:32] <z3r0c007> i'm using ubuntu 11.10 after updating my usb port  and my card reader won't work
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> just the card reader?
[12:33] <z3r0c007> built-in card reader and usb port won't work
[12:33] <firas> everything but gcc(newer one)
[12:34] <z3r0c007> i'm using compaq presario v3000 laptop
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> z3r0c007  have you tried restarting?
[12:35] <firas> hi, is ubuntu totally opensource?
[12:35] <z3r0c007> monkeydust: many times
[12:35] <LjL> firas: no
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> firas  define 'totally'
[12:36] <LjL> firas: some parts of it are proprietary, mainly drivers, but they're well separated from the open source parts
[12:36] <[ptr]xyz> firas: you can install a completely open-source version of it...
[12:37] <z3r0c007> monkeydust: any suggestion for my problem
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> z3r0c007  cant help, maybe reboot in recovery mode and repair
[12:38] <z3r0c007> how do i repair in recovery mode
[12:38] <z3r0c007> monkeydust:  any command
[12:38] <totte> Hi, how do you type "å" on an English (international) keyboard?
[12:38] <firas> are ubuntu live cd scripts open-source?
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> z3r0c007  in the grub menu, choose recovery mode
[12:39] <z3r0c007> monkeydust: and them
[12:39] <firas> are ubuntu live cd scripts open-source?
[12:39] <z3r0c007> how to goto grub menu
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> z3r0c007  choose repair, see if that helps
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> z3r0c007  the grub menu is what you see when you boot your pc
[12:40] <z3r0c007> ok thank monkeydust i'll try
[12:41] <pierrep> Hi
[12:41] <firas> are ubuntu live cd scripts open-source?
[12:41] <LjL> firas: i really believe they are, but i don't know specifically where they are located.
[12:41] <pierrep> is there a soft to organize and manage an election result/ vote ?
[12:41] <firas> ok thnx
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> firas  what is that want to do, exactly?
[12:41] <LjL> firas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization has instructions on how to make a custom CD though
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> ah
[12:41] <LjL> gah
[12:42] <hemza> I do not see grub when I boot (I have only ubuntu installed in my box )
[12:42] <llutz_> pierrep: ask Mr Putin ;) scnr
[12:42] <DJones> hemza: If you want to see grub when you boot, you have to press the shift key at boot time to bring up the grub menu
[12:43] <pierrep> llutz, yeah I mean a proper one :)
[12:43] <hemza> Thnx DJones
[12:43] <acer-T630> Hello, Ihave a big stability problem on an Acer-T630 desktop computer, Intel P4 3GHz 512Mo RAM shared with the graphic card. Xorg errors and Kernel panic. Any idea ?
[12:43] <IdanSuper_> Hello, I need help to set up my network adapter D-Link dwl-650+ through acx100 project..
[12:44] <acer-T630> HDD test ok, and memory Memtest86 ok
[12:44] <DragonSlay> after trying out openbox,e1, jwm i  see that window manager alone is enough to run gui apps. so what features do gnome and kde offer? why are they so popular.?
[12:45] <LjL> DragonSlay, they integrate apps and offer services. and when you use a GNOME or KDE app, even if you use it in your favorite window manager, it still uses GNOME or KDE libraries and services, which are often fundamental to the working of the program.
[12:47] <DragonSlay> LjL, at first loginmanager is set to gdm, does that mean that gnome starts first and then quits again ?
[12:48] <p3rror> hey
[12:48] <LjL> DragonSlay: definte "GNOME"... GNOME is a set of things. GDM is part of GNOME, so you could say a part of GNOME starts and then quits (it really doesn't, the DM stays running).
[12:48] <IdanSuper_> Hello, I need help to set up my network adapter D-Link dwl-650+ through acx100 project..
[12:48] <LjL> DragonSlay: but i doubt GDM uses many GNOME libraries honestly.
[12:52] <DragonSlay> LjL, after getting logged in using openbox or e17 , when i notice the resource consumption it is about 130MB but i see that only about 15 or 20 mb is used by application.
[12:53] <DragonSlay> applicatitons*
[12:53] <LjL> DragonSlay: switching to a different display manager is an option.
[13:02] <benyuss> hello guys pls help me.. i have using xubunt 10.04 and my "startup panel" is missing since todays starting.. yesterday i was power off normally.. what's the problem? how can i restore my startup panel?
[13:02] <gulzar> any other GUI for VirtualBox than Qt.. and vbox gtk?
[13:02] <ikonia> gulzar: how many more do you want
[13:04] <gulzar> ikonia: Qt not beacuse I want pure Gtk and no mixing of qt + gtk .. gtk can't bacuse it is not aloowing me to ue HDD other than on /home
[13:04] <ouyes> benyuss, what is startup panel I am running ubuntu
[13:04] <ouyes> benyuss, what does it look like?
[13:04] <ikonia> gulzar: the gtk gui should allow you to use any disk area your user has permissions to write to
[13:05] <benyuss> its on the roof
[13:05] <diplocat> gulzar, type: xfce-panel
[13:05] <benyuss> on the display.. where you can find the time and some icons.
[13:05] <diplocat> or xfce4-panel
[13:05] <gulzar> ikonia: while creating disk it has only option fo /home
[13:06] <AFD> hi guys. we have a remote server that users connect to by nx. one user and one user only seems to be hogging 60% of the server CPU with their gvfsd-metadata process. Can anyone explain what this is and why a particular user might be using so much CPU when the other 30 or so are not?
[13:06] <gulzar> ikonia: but I want my 25Gb hdd on /media
[13:08] <diplocat> oops, benyuss, press ALT+F2, then type xfce4-panel
[13:08] <DragonSlay> LjL, is it possible to stop DM from starting ?
[13:09] <LjL> DragonSlay: yes, update-rc.d can do that, at least i think that's still the way to do it
[13:10] <LjL> DragonSlay: but then you'll have to start X manually, are you sure you don't prefer to use a more lightweight display manager instead?
[13:12] <DragonSlay> LjL, window managers work with all display manager?
[13:12] <LjL> DragonSlay: yes
[13:13] <DragonSlay> LjL, if i start gnome from another DM , will it again start gdm? bcoz gnome depends on gdm.
[13:13] <LjL> DragonSlay: no it won't, and no it doesn't
[13:14] <DragonSlay> LjL, tell me some of the lightweight Dms available..
[13:14] <LjL> DragonSlay: recent versions of Ubuntu use "lightdm"
[13:15] <ikonia> gulzar: what is the file system on /media ?
[13:16] <CharminTheMoose> When I do 'startx' on a debootstrapped system, neither a PS/2 or usb based mouse are detected. Isn't X supposed to do auto detection of the hardware nowadays?
[13:17] <CharminTheMoose> *11.04
[13:18] <DragonSlay> LjL, anyother DMs?
[13:18] <gulzar> ikonia: ext4
[13:19] <gulzar> ikonia: the file is in {/media/Multimedia/HDD/XP}
[13:19] <LjL> DragonSlay: xdm, kdm, ldm, lxdm, wdm
[13:19] <DragonSlay> LjL, i can't switch sessions in xdm
[13:21] <Guest90097> salut
[13:24] <gulzar> ikonia: ??
[13:24] <diverdude> Hello. if i do cp -r somedir/* someotherdir/ all hidden files (.something files) are not copied. Why? And how do i copy those as well?
[13:24] <ikonia> gulzar: what file system is on that device
[13:24] <diverdude> ikonia, just normal ubuntu
[13:24] <ikonia> gulzar: I'm asking because you said it's ext4, yet it's mounted on HDD/XP
[13:25] <ikonia> diverdude: I'm talking to gulzar
[13:25] <diverdude> ok sry
[13:26] <benyuss> helllo guys anybody has played on Pocket Legends or Star Legends on linux?
[13:28] <AziaBurgi> hello all i am running 11.04 and i have tried to upgrade to 11.10 but the upgrade keeps failing. any suggestions?
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> diverdude  it seems you're not the first to ask http://www.unix.com/unix-advanced-expert-users/4695-recursive-copy-hidden-files.html
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> AziaBurgi  define 'keeps failing'
[13:29] <ikonia> diverdude: you need to do somedir/. not somedir/*
[13:33] <selina2> hi
[13:33] <AziaBurgi> MonkeyDust: http://tinypic.com/r/123tgec/5
[13:34] <gulzar> ikonia: ext4
[13:34] <diplocat> AziaBurgi, what happens when you click Partial Upgrade?
[13:34] <gulzar> ikonia: the HDD is virtualbox hdd..
[13:34] <ikonia> gulzar: are you %100 sure, I'm only querying as it's mounted as HDD/XP
[13:34] <AziaBurgi> that fails too but with a different error, 1 sec
[13:35] <gulzar> ikonia: it is not munted.. it is XP.vdi and can only be accessible with VB..
[13:35] <gulzar> ikonia: I want to accesss Vb hdd which is created on /media/Multimedia/HDD/XP/Xp.vdi
[13:35] <ikonia> gulzar: ok, I see what you mean
[13:35] <gulzar> ikonia: gtk nterface is not allowing me to do so..
[13:36] <Ednan> What version of Ubuntu (64bit or 32bit) I should install on this microprocessor: http://i.imgur.com/O0st0.png
[13:36] <ikonia> gulzar: so if you do ls -la /media/Multimedia/HDD (pastebin please) lets look at the permissions
[13:36] <ikonia> Ednan: either one you want
[13:36] <benyuss> helllo guys anybody has played on Pocket Legends or Star Legends on linux?
[13:37] <Ednan> ikonia: I heard somewhere before that 64bit uses more RAM but I only have 2GB of it
[13:37] <gulzar> ikonia: permissions are with me.. gtk interface is not having OPTION to acees it. it can only create HDD while creating new machine unlike Qt interface.. and there is no option to change it... gtk interace is minimum with basich settings. It is not complete like Qt
[13:37] <AziaBurgi> partial upgrade error: http://tinypic.com/r/14xe83b/5
[13:37] <ikonia> benyuss: just ask your real question
[13:37] <ikonia> Ednan: ok, so use 32bit
[13:38] <Ednan> ok
[13:38] <diplocat> Edgan, 64bit
[13:38] <ikonia> gulzar: I've never seen that limitation before, I'm surprised by it
[13:38] <diplocat> 64bit uses your processor more effectively
[13:38] <CharminTheMoose> When I do 'startx' on a debootstrapped 11.04 system, neither a PS/2 or usb based mouse are detected. Isn't X supposed to do auto detection of the hardware nowadays?
[13:38] <Ednan> diplocat: I care about my RAM because I want to play some games on it
[13:38] <gulzar> ikonia: that limitation is with GTK interface the UI you commonly use with VB is Qt based.. I tried CLO but it was abouve my head..
[13:39] <ikonia> gulzar: I didn't use the QT one, hence why I'm surprised by the GTK limitation
[13:39] <AziaBurgi> 2nd error: http://tinypic.com/r/21j2mtj/5
[13:40] <diplocat> Ednan, it's not that 64bit uses more, it's that it allows more. ie. 32bit only allows 4GB of ram, whereas 64bit allows 8 (or 16)GB of ram, if you only have 2gb, 64bit is still better for your processor
[13:40] <benyuss> ikonia: its a game which is using native client of google chrome. but if i try to log in the client tell me to upgrade my video driver.. but its the last version.. my graphics card is radeon xpress 200m
[13:40] <ikonia> diplocat: it can also use more
[13:40] <diplocat> oh ok
[13:40] <Ednan> diplocat: okay
[13:40] <ikonia> benyuss: have you enabled the ati drivers in the hardware drivers tool ?
[13:40] <diplocat> I don't know now Ednan , maybe ikonia is right (?)
[13:41] <gulzar> ikonia: I got the solution.. to edit config file and set the path :)
[13:41] <diplocat> AziaBurgi, have you rebooted since you started getting the errors?
[13:41] <AziaBurgi> yes
[13:41] <ikonia> gulzar: there you go
[13:41] <LjL> diplocat, Ednan: if by "games" you mean Windows ones, they're going to run as 32bit, so there's not going to be any advantage from 64bit there
[13:42] <Ednan> LjL: yea I have to use wine in 32-bit mode for it I guess
[13:43] <AziaBurgi> diplocat: i can give it a reboot now if it helps
[13:43] <The_Phoenix> Is Empathy way better than pidgin? Why?
[13:43] <diplocat> AziaBurgi, not sure it will
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> !best| The_Phoenix
[13:43] <benyuss> ikonia: i cant enable it because there isn't any drivers or devices in the hardware drivers window.
[13:44] <diplocat> AziaBurgi, you can try going to a terminal and typing: sudo apt-get -f install
[13:44] <diplocat> AziaBurgi, otherwise, this website: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65924/the-upgrade-has-aborted-error-how-to-proceed recommends to upgrade from a Live CD
[13:44] <ikonia> benyuss: that would be doubtful for an ati card, but if there is no option then there is no available driver, which is why you're client is telling you to update, as there isn't one
[13:46] <The_Phoenix> MonkeyDust: Hmm, it's more than people's opinion. Ubuntu used pidgin before but it switched over to empathy recently. I've been using pidigin for years now. Just curious if I should give empathy a chance since I've been having problems with IRC on pidgin. It's more or less, why did Ubuntu switch from pidgin to empathy?
[13:46] <benyuss> ok i see. but how i can enable my card to play?? it was worked with windows on this machine.:/
[13:47] <benyuss> ikonia: ok i see. but how i can enable my card to play?? it was worked with windows on this machine.:/
[13:47] <OerHeks> benyuss, maybe this answer of askubuntu is any help ? >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22111/driver-for-a-ati-radeon-xpress-200m-graphics-card
[13:47] <sofw> iplist
[13:49] <benyuss> OerHeks: thank you!
[13:49] <benyuss> ikonia: thanks! you helped a lot!
[13:49] <conntrack> That is pretty smart
[13:51] <diverdude> php5.4 is in RC5 now and stable release will most likely be out in next week. How long is it then until its possible to du apt-get install php54?
[13:52] <CharminTheMoose> When I do 'startx' on a debootstrapped 11.04 system, neither a PS/2 or usb based mouse are detected. Isn't X supposed to do auto detection of the hardware nowadays?
[13:52] <LjL> diverdude: in your current Ubuntu version - never
[13:52] <diverdude> LjL, why?
[13:52] <diverdude> LjL, what version then?
[13:52] <diverdude> LjL, im in 11.10
[13:53] <LjL> diverdude: because that's not the way it works. packages are only updated in Ubuntu for important security fixes or serious bugs. you will have to wait for Precise or the version after Precise.
[13:53] <diverdude> LjL, ugh...or find a ppa or create a debian pack myself ?
[13:55] <LjL> diverdude: even then, PHP is a bit too important to just install a different version, so i'm not *so* sure a PPA will come up (although it's possible, since they could always modify stuff so that it gets installed as /usr/bin/php5.4 or something and doesn't interfer with the correct PHP version for the system)
[13:55] <diverdude> LjL, hmm so the only solution is to install from source
[13:56] <diverdude> LjL, if i dont install php from repo and pack php5.4 myself, would that be possible then?
[13:56] <LjL> diverdude: yes, it's just that programs *in* the repos that use PHP might then not work correctly.
[13:57] <Maguxin> kernel panic :S
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> Maguxin  don't panic, it's only a kernel
[13:59] <diplocat> CharminTheMoose, wild guess, but have you got the xorg-input packages installed?
[13:59] <AziaBurgi> diplocat: i was planning to move this install to a new box soon anyway. i'll just do a fresh install on the new machine and retire this one :)
[13:59] <AziaBurgi> thanks anyway
[13:59] <diplocat> AziaBurgi, no worries, probably a good idea :)
[14:00] <diverdude> LjL, why not
[14:00] <diverdude> LjL, how rthen do i use 5.4?
[14:00] <LjL> diverdude: well, if you install it from source, then they will not work because they will want the actual packages as dependencies - if you pack it yourself, then they might work, but if anything in 5.4 breaks compatibility with 5.3 then they may misbehave.
[14:01] <JoeyJoeJo> I'm using ubuntu server with no gui. I've set my static IP info in /etc/network/interfaces, but every time I reboot I have to set my IP address using ifconfig. How can I make that automatic?
[14:01] <LjL> diverdude: you could install it to /opt
[14:01] <ikonia> JoeyJoeJo: if you've set it correctly in interfaces, that's it
[14:01] <diverdude> LjL, from source?
[14:01] <LjL> diverdude: yeah. assuming the makefile is smart enough to allow that.
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> JoeyJoeJo  restart the network
[14:01] <sidd_mak> Somehow  i have lost my unity environment
[14:01] <diverdude> LjL, if i just do make install i dont think it will do that
[14:01] <sidd_mak> how can i get it back??
[14:02] <maslen> Is it possible to reserve some memory to be used for 'new' applications?
[14:02] <LjL> diverdude: well, at least it could get installed to /usr/local, which is better than /usr (since it won't conflict with repo packages)
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> sidd_mak  how did you lose it?
[14:02] <LjL> maslen: not sure what you mean
[14:02] <maslen> Ubuntu is currently using as much as possible, which is causing a newly launched instance of eclipse to crash with out of memory errors.
[14:02] <maslen> LjL: Considering I have 4 GB of RAM, and am not using Unity, that's kinda sad.
[14:03] <Raggs> is there a way to make the 'panel' in unity smaller?
[14:03] <LjL> maslen: that's not correct behavior. either you simply *are* maxed out, and you need to keep fewer programs open (or use swap), or there is a bug.
[14:03] <LjL> maslen: what does "free" report?
[14:03] <sidd_mak> MonkeyDust : one day while logging to ubuntu i got popup like can't load unity environment
[14:03] <Rodant> sudo apt-get update
[14:03] <Rodant> opps
[14:03] <maslen> LjL: Mem:       4055972    2699184    1356788          0     157872     802752 , -/+ buffers/cache:    1738560    2317412
[14:03] <sidd_mak> MonkeyDust : now when i got in to unity basic Gnome gets loaded
[14:04] <maslen> LjL: Note that I did close an ubuntu 11.10 VM, which was using ~1GB.
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> sidd_mak  choose Recovery mode in the grub menu and then Repair, maybe that helps
[14:04] <johanhar> I have got 3 NTFS partitions on my disk. I want to create a partation for ubuntu, whats the difference on logic and partial?
[14:04] <maslen> LjL: But even with that running, I should of had significantly more RAM available .
[14:04] <sidd_mak> MonkeyDust : any other solution ??
[14:04] <johanhar> Which one is right, so that I can have both w7 and ubuntu on my computer, with the choice to boot which one at startup
[14:04] <LjL> maslen: hm pastebin the output of "ps aux" then
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> sidd_mak  none
[14:04] <johanhar> primary*
[14:05] <diverdude> LjL, problem is that it will take forever to remove it again if something goes wrong
[14:05] <sidd_mak> MonkeyDust : how about removing unity and reinstall
[14:05] <maslen> LjL: http://pastie.org/3201410
[14:05] <turbomettwurst> does anyone have any experience with building low power routers? e.g. can recommend a small machine with 2 nics that is cheap (arch is not an issue)
[14:05] <LjL> diverdude: that's part of why if you manage to put it into /opt, it would be better
[14:05] <ikonia> turbomettwurst: try ##hardware
[14:06] <maslen> LjL: I had looked through that, but didn't see any obvious problems.
[14:06] <turbomettwurst> thx
[14:06] <diverdude> LjL, hmm which is probably quite impossible
[14:06] <arooni-mobile> is there a way to determine folder by foldre how much is in it; (and add up the contents within each sub directory there)?
[14:07] <Pici> arooni-mobile: du will do that.  Something like `du -h --max-depth=1` might be what you're looking for.
[14:08] <amy> I just updated to Ubuntu 10.1 I think it was. When I log in now,I get a new desktop look with a vertical launch bar on the left side of the screen. How do I go back to the classic look?
[14:08] <acu> I want to stop the syslogd message - I have an annoying message syslogd@linuxserver at Jan 17 07:47:47  --- kernel:[49764.792104] [Hardware Error]: cache level: L2, tx: GEN, mem-tx: SNP --- how can I suppress totally this message ? It is so anoying, every two minutes makes a beep - the computer runs fine - the CPU is cool - I am not going to change the CPU- so I just want to suppress that syslogd messages forever - can anyone help
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> !nounity| amy
[14:09] <Raggs> wouldnt it be grand if the bot would /msg that to the person
[14:10] <maslen> Raggs: What would IRC be without 10 concurrent conversations ?
[14:10] <ikonia> !nounity > Raggs
[14:10] <Raggs> i dont mind that, but i prefer human conversations
[14:11] <LjL> maslen: yeah me neither, but i think the sums are correct. if you sum all the RSS from your processes, the result is 1698189. that, plus 802752 of cache, is  about 2500000, and your used memory is only slightly above that
[14:11] <LjL> maslen: so really, the stuff *is* taking up all that memory, and there's not much you can do about it
[14:11] <Raggs> ikonia, that is much better
[14:11] <maslen> Time to try rerunning eclipse..
[14:12] <Raggs> anyhow, newish to ubuntu, hi all
[14:12] <LjL> maslen: do you have any swap? it could help (or it could make things thrash, i dunno)
[14:13] <maslen> LjL: I do. Barely any of it's used though, because RAM is available :)
[14:13] <maslen> LjL: I don't think ps is including the 'freeable' RAM.
[14:14] <LjL> maslen, what do you mean by freeable RAM? VSZ is what the processes have allocated - and it's *not* really assigned to physical memory until it's needed. RSS is what actually needed to be written into memory.
[14:15] <maslen> LjL: I was under the impression the OS expands to fill as much memory as possible, to limit the required amount of disk accessess.
[14:15] <maslen> I'm trying to read through `cat /proc/meminfo` . Perhaps it will help clarify things  http://pastie.org/3201437
[14:16] <LjL> maslen: yes, it does, that's the "cache", but that's *already* freed automatically (or swapped out) when required
[14:16] <LjL> maslen: it's those 800mb "free" is reporting
[14:16] <maslen> oh :(
[14:17] <Dev-el> Is launchpad.net down?
[14:17] <Pici> Dev-el: no.
[14:18] <[ptr]xyz> check it at: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/launchpad.net ;)
[14:19] <LjL> maslen: but, if that "cache" is still at 800mb (or still high, anyway) after you try to run Eclipse and it fails, then something is wrong.
[14:19] <D_Russ> hello all
[14:20] <D_Russ> running ubuntu 11.10 and i am having some issues with avchd/mts playback being choppy and almost impossible to edit. Any ideas how to tweak this?
[14:21] <Ivoz> Does anyone know if php5-mysql installs the mysql native driver? Or how you can check this?
[14:22] <maslen> LjL: Thanks for trying.
[14:22] <D_Russ> anyone do any video editing on ubuntu?
[14:24] <mbeierl> D_Russ: purely amateur.  and not too much lately
[14:24] <recon69> hi everyone, got major ubuntu problems, going to reinstall but need some way to check which driver is which before i overwrite the wrong drive
[14:24] <gulzar> how to register an already created Fixed sized .vdi image in Virtualbox with vboxmanage?
[14:24] <ballison> how do i disable the DOCK/ DASH on the lefthand side of the screen and return to "normal ubuntu"?
[14:24] <ballison> i hate the giant DOCK/ DASH
[14:25] <mbeierl> ballison: I think you're looking for the gnome-fallback then.
[14:25] <recon69> ballison, look up ubuntu classic mode in google
[14:25] <ballison> I want to be able to right click the menu bar and add my own launcher like in the older version of ubuntu.
[14:25] <phong_> hi guys
[14:26] <babilen> !nounity
[14:26] <ballison> just run "sudo apt-get install gnome-session-failback" ??
[14:26] <recon69> anyone able to help me check partitions from a live usb before i overwrite the wrong partition
[14:27] <shownowon> i'm using ubuntu 11.10 on a sony vaio vpcy216 laptop with intel graphics.  Although, the vga out works, i can't get the laptop screen working
[14:27] <RaTTuS|BIG> recon69 - sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[14:27] <babilen> babilen: Read the factoid (nounity) ubotty just mentioned. The proper course of action depends on the version of Ubuntu you are using and you are, if I understand you correctly, primarily after gnome-shell as shipped by upstream.
[14:28] <AbeEGrover> has anyone set-up automated snapshot-style backups with rsync
[14:28] <babilen> Err
[14:28] <mbeierl> Just found a new, slightly awkward ui issue with Unity.  I'm growing to enjoy Unity, but focus-follows-mouse does not play well with it.  I cannot get to the menus at the top if I have to go through another window before getting to the top ;)
[14:28] <mbeierl> babilen: he left....
[14:28] <mbeierl> babilen: he's back!
[14:28] <ballison> i installed "gnome-session-fallback" and logged out and back in using it.  YAY!
[14:28] <RaTTuS|BIG> AbeEGrover - yeah no problems just do it
[14:29] <ballison> but --- i don't have the ability to right click the menu and have a launcher bar
[14:29] <LjL> ballison: GNOME 3 is not GNOME 2, no matter which shell you use you won't have all the features from GNOME 2 you're used to...
[14:29] <AbeEGrover> have any good references on setting it up?
[14:29] <babilen> ballison: Well, you missed my attempts to help you now for the second time by leaving the channel. I will leave further support to the friendly people in #ubuntu
[14:30] <ballison> babilen: i had to log out and log back in to get gnome-session-failback
[14:30] <recon69> RaTTuS|BIG http://paste.ubuntu.com/807428/
[14:30] <ballison> you have to log out to activate it.
[14:30] <babilen> ballison: I would, however, strongly recommend to try gnome-shell as well but meh, have fun
[14:30] <ballison> gnome-shell?  this has nothing to do with shells.
[14:30] <ballison> i'm trying to have a LAUNCHER BAR
[14:30] <LjL> ballison: uh? it has everything to do with shells.
[14:31] <ballison> like i used to .... i could right click and say "Add Launcher APplication"
[14:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> AbeEGrover - well - rsync -va /src user@dest:/backup at the very least
[14:31] <LjL> ballison: unless you think "shell" is something else than we're discussing.
[14:31] <ballison> shell is a terminal with a problem CLI
[14:31] <ballison> prompt
[14:31] <LjL> ballison: that's a very reductive definition of "shell", so, no.
[14:31] <ballison> this has NOTHING to do with my "shell"
[14:31] <ballison> my shell is bash if you want to know
[14:31] <ballison> echo $SHELL
[14:31]  * LjL head desks
[14:32] <recon69> never mind, i assume the one marked boot in the one i want
[14:32] <LjL> ballison: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_(computing) have fun
[14:32] <Type17> hello everyone :)
[14:32] <ballison> i'm talking about the fact that I can't right click on the bar at the top and add a launcher app.  like for Firefox or xterm...
[14:32] <LjL> ballison: GNOME-Shell is a shell. Unity is a shell. GNOME Fallback is a shell.
[14:32] <babilen> ballison: Relax please. Shouting won't help. If you are unsure what gnome-shell actually is it would help if you would be so nice to actually ask: "Oh, I don't understand the relation between gnome-shell and my desktop. What exactly is gnome-shell as I always thought that a shell is rather something like bash, zsh, ..."
[14:32] <LjL> ballison: yes, you can't do that with GNOME 3 to my knowledge, although i'm not a GNOME user.
[14:33] <D_Russ> mbeierl: do you ever get stuttering and choppy playback with avchd/mts videos? i am having this issue.
[14:33] <ballison> why would they remove that?  how are you 'pose to launch apps?
[14:34] <zgr> how many programs are logging users activity in ubuntu 11.10 with unity?
[14:34] <DragonSlay> ballison, try installing gnome-panel and add it to start-up
[14:34] <recon69> must say i find unity a total pain on my computer, probably suitable for a phone or tablet but a total head wrecker on my desktop
[14:35] <[ptr]xyz> zgr this highly depends on your installation and on what logs you are looking at...
[14:35] <ballison> gnome-panel is already the newest version.
[14:35] <AbeEGrover> I was going to use rsync -qzaH --exclude=/proc/* --exclude=/tmp/* --exclude=/lost+found/* user@dest:/backup
[14:35] <ballison> $ gnome-panel
[14:35] <ballison> Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running.
[14:36] <recon69> hopefully be back in a bit, going to do this install
[14:36] <zgr> [ptr]xyz: there so much of them? I thought there were only zeitgeist and something from gnome 3
[14:36] <zgr> are*
[14:36] <[ptr]xyz> well do you count "recent document lists" too?
[14:36] <[ptr]xyz> then there might be more...
[14:37] <babilen> gnome-panel is not the appropriate approach. Please familiarise yourself with Gnome3 as you seem to have never used it before. You should look into gnome-tweak-tool and browse the extensions on https://extensions.gnome.org/ -- You will eventually find something like http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html
[14:37] <zgr> yes  I do
[14:37] <[ptr]xyz> and maybe you are looking deeper in your system (like /var/log)
[14:37] <zgr> no except var/log
[14:37] <zgr> only user related
[14:38] <[ptr]xyz> ok, the recent doc lists depend on the programs you use. VLC for exmaple lists the most recent videos in it's own menu.
[14:38] <[ptr]xyz> but if you are looking for desktop wide stuff, i think the default installation of oneiric only bringst zeitgeist, yup.
[14:38] <[ptr]xyz> *brings
[14:38] <zgr> ok I'm not meaning each program alone like vlc gedit etc
[14:38] <zgr> only DE wide
[14:39] <zgr> and .local/share/recently-used.xbel belongs to zeitgeist too?
[14:40] <EchohcE> Is this the ubuntu help channel or just the main one?  I don't want to clutter it if it's not the right channel.
[14:40] <LjL> EchohcE: it's the help channel
[14:41] <EchohcE> I'm glad.  I've set my ubuntu vm to automatically log me in, but I forgot that I also set it to decrypt my /home folder using my login password.  So when I login, I get an ICE error and nothing's mounted, not even panels.  Is there a way I can disable the auto-login from the terminal?
[14:42] <d_atharva> Hi...What is the full form of OGG ?
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> EchohcE  what's an ICE error?
[14:42] <jrib> EchohcE: what login manager are you using?
[14:42] <jrib> d_atharva: what do you mean?
[14:42] <d_atharva> jrib : May I PM you ?
[14:42] <recon69> ok, the partition marked as boot is only 4gb, must not be the right one
[14:43] <DragonSlay> d_atharva, why don't you google it.
[14:43] <diverdude> I have a bash script which starts up netbeans IDE. How do i add that to the unity menu?
[14:43] <jrib> d_atharva: if it's support related, I'd prefer if we continued the discussion here
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> !google| DragonSlay
[14:43] <LjL> EchohcE: it used to be in gdm.conf, but i'm not sure anymore with lightdm...
[14:43] <DragonSlay> :o
[14:43] <EchohcE> I just did a standard install on Virtualbox.  I'm using 10.04 and just the standard stuff.
[14:43] <LjL> EchohcE: oh, 10.04? then see here http://www.codeunit.co.za/2011/08/26/ubuntu-how-to-disable-automatic-login-auto-login-via-a-terminal/
[14:44] <recon69> anyone able to spot the root drive on this disk http://paste.ubuntu.com/807428/
[14:44] <d_atharva> jrib : I will ask in !ot ... As its an ot here.. :P
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> recon69  type mount to find out
[14:44] <DragonSlay> ubottu: what is monkeyfu
[14:45] <DragonSlay> ubottu: what is google-fu
[14:45] <DragonSlay> MonkeyDust, : what is google-fu
[14:45] <LjL> !msg the bot | DragonSlay
[14:45] <EchohcE> Alright, I tried getting to it, but it's a blank page.  I think it's with the /home folder that isn't decrypted
[14:45] <DragonSlay> lol
[14:46] <EchohcE> I'll do what I can with google.  Thanks guys
[14:46] <shomon> hi, how do I find out what my usb pen drive corresponds to in /dev?
[14:47] <shomon> I've done an lsusb and recognise it
[14:47] <recon69> still cant work out which is root partition http://paste.ubuntu.com/807443/
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> recon69  /cow on / type overlayfs (rw)
[14:47] <shomon> (it's not mounted by the way)
[14:48] <recon69> yep, think thats the root of my live usb
[14:48] <recon69> and is no help identifying the partition
[14:48] <CharminTheMoose> When I do 'startx' on a debootstrapped 11.04 system, neither a PS/2 or usb based mouse are detected. Isn't X supposed to do auto detection of the hardware nowadays?
[14:49] <shomon> aah, dmesg
[14:49] <recon69> ubuntu used to be easy to use
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> recon69  don't start
[14:50] <KBentley57> hey guys, I've compiled a new kernel (3.2) to try it out, and I'm having some trouble getting back into my "ubuntu" session. I can log into classic, classic with no effects, and tty prompt.  any ideas how I can get back in?  I get the error "Failed to load ubuntu session"
[14:50] <dddbmt> Hi guys. I am using skype in 11.10. If I close my main skype window I cant open it again. When clicking on the skype icon in my unity bar, a new instance of skype opens.
[14:50] <Topcat> What's the latest ubuntu called...
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> oneiric
[14:50] <KBentley57> dddbmt, I've had that problem too
[14:51] <dddbmt> KBentley57, did you find a solution?
[14:51] <KBentley57> dddbmt, no, lol
[14:51] <KBentley57> dddbmt, it could be a bug, but I haven't filed a report
[14:51] <d_atharva> Topcat : Havent you read the channel topic ?
[14:52] <recon69> lol, both my ubuntu installs broke today, think i got hacked
[14:52] <Topcat> d_atharva: what, Oneiric? That's a word?>
[14:52] <dddbmt> KBentley57, my current solution is "$ killall skype" and restart ;)
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> linux hacked, that would be big news
[14:52] <dddbmt> I might fill a report.
[14:52] <LjL> Topcat: it's a codename. the version number is 11.10.
[14:52] <KBentley57> dddbmt, I usually click on the skype icon in the top menubar and it comes open, tried that?
[14:52] <LjL> MonkeyDust: uh?
[14:52] <recon69> well, cant log into one, the other has a broken dns
[14:52] <suppl> what made you think you got hacked recharge
[14:53] <suppl> recon69*
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> LjL  i guess he means 'from outside'
[14:53] <dddbmt> KBentley57, you mean in systray?
[14:53] <KBentley57> any ideas on the "Failed to load ubuntu session" after a new kernel install?
[14:53] <LjL> MonkeyDust: yes... and? Linux systems get "hacked from outside" daily.
[14:53] <KBentley57> dddbmt, I have a skype icon beside my clock at the top of the screen, the green one
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> LjL  i guess he means that someone broke into his system and took over
[14:53] <LjL> MonkeyDust: yes. and that happens all the time.
[14:54] <KBentley57> recon69, have you been playing around with the terminal?
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> LjL  guess we wean different things, i was talking about security
[14:54] <LjL> MonkeyDust: so was i!
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> we mean*
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> LjL  stop please :)
[14:55] <DragonSlay> LOL , virus .
[14:55] <Night-hacks> i've removed my laptop battery and just use it plugged, will it cause any hardware problems ?
[14:55] <dddbmt> KBentley57, hmm I got nothing there.
[14:55] <recon69> well, i removed the eve lotion  mail server on the one i cant log into, did not touch the other
[14:56] <Topcat> I've done mv ubuntu.iso to /ubuntu/ and it's just files now, is that the same as mounting it and pulling the files out or have I ballsed it up now?
[14:56] <recon69> I can login to the cammand line , but not gnome
[14:57] <KBentley57> dddbmt, do you have the latest version installed?
[14:57] <recon69> well, guess it's pick a partition and hope i don wipe my home dir
[14:57] <KBentley57> another side issue I've been having:  has anyone ever tried to burn a dvd-rw disk?
[14:58] <KBentley57> recon69, don't you remember the size of the home partition?
[14:58] <hanis> Hello where can i find phpmyadmin sql upload directory ubuntu
[14:58] <recon69> been 3 years since i installed this setup
[14:59] <hanis> Hello where can i find phpmyadmin sql upload directory ubuntu
[14:59] <liuzhijing> hi all
[14:59] <KBentley57> recon69, have you tried a live cd first?
[15:00] <joby> hello
[15:00] <KBentley57> recon69, just to find which partition, or at least the size of the partition that has your data?
[15:00] <KBentley57> recon69, I would shat a brick just hoping that my data wasn't overwritten..lol
[15:00] <recon69> one last try, can anyone tell me how to look at partition on the hdd from a live usb before i overwrite a partition
[15:01] <KBentley57> recon69, insert live cd, look in /dev/ mount partitions.
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[15:04] <diverdude> how do i update the unity menu after adding  a .desktop file?
[15:05] <recon69> i'll reboot in safe mode to the cmd line and see if i can work it out, thx for the help
[15:05] <corretico_> hi
[15:05] <inf_loop> hello I use ubuntu 11.10 with oneiric-proposed updates. if i log in with standart account (acc without pass) on gnome-shell, press alt-f2 to open "run cmd" and type "gksu smt" it doesnt ask any pass it gives directly root access. is it normal?
[15:05] <corretico_> is possible to change Thunderbird for Evolution as a default mail program?? Evolution with total integration with Unity?
[15:06] <meberhart> there should be an app for your default programs
[15:08] <roger_padactor> hello.  my grub went missing and im have a hard time getting it back. Do you know if their is a way to access the partition with a virtual maching like vbox or fusion?
[15:08] <trkemist> Is there an ubuntu desktop specific channel?
[15:08] <diverdude> how do i update the unity menu after adding  a .desktop file?
[15:08] <jrib> trkemist: ask here
[15:11] <bkerensa> trkemist: In what sense do you mean update it?
[15:11] <viriya> hello
[15:11] <trkemist> I have a Dell Latitude E6500 and its ok for some of my work, although I still can't get certain things working correctly on 11.10, but I am wondering if anyone can make a suggestion as to weather getting one of these new ultrabooks like the Asus s3 or something like this is going to be supported
[15:11] <bkerensa> diverdude: I mean in what sense do you mean update it?
[15:11] <viriya> who can help me?
[15:11] <viriya> hello
[15:11] <Pici> !ask | viriya
[15:12] <bkerensa> trkemist: Unfortunately this channel is not appropriate for advice on ubuntu specific laptops but let me grab a link for you.
[15:12] <meberhart> viriya - check your PM
[15:12] <om26er> i have internet on my netbook i would like to share it with my pc over network cable is there a simple way to do that?
[15:12] <bkerensa> trkemist: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[15:12] <beetee> There was a webpage comparing the .deb package version from debian to specific ubuntu release. I can't find it though. Anyone knows it?
[15:13] <bkerensa> om26er: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[15:13] <goddard> i cant connect to my 5Ghz wifi
[15:13] <corretico_> Ubuntu 11.10 use Thunderbird as default mail application, using with Unity... Is possible change with Evolution... like in old version??
[15:13] <bkerensa> goddard: Do you have a Wireless card capable of such?
[15:14] <bkerensa> corretico_: Surely you can remove Thunderbird and use Evolution or any other support mail client.
[15:15] <trkemist> bkerensa => Awesome!
[15:15] <om26er> bkerensa, thank you, it worked
[15:15] <viriya> I recently moved from windows to linux os, after I use linux my internet gets really slow, why is not it? to open the old facebook
[15:16] <bkerensa> om26er: Your welcome
[15:16] <viriya> i was firefox in linux
[15:16] <viriya> i use ubuntu versi 11.10
[15:16] <georgieee> Hello, I added the option "noauto" to fstab so my device is only mounting manually. However that does not work. Ubuntu tries to mount the device when booting. Does anyone know why?
[15:17] <bkerensa> viriya: There should be no noticeable difference in internet speed between Windows and Linux in fact I find Internet faster on Ubuntu. How are you connecting?
[15:17] <ISK> georgieee, Plz, paste your fstab
[15:17] <georgieee> ISK: http://pastie.org/3201798
[15:18] <viriya> i use ubuntu version 11,internet very late
[15:18] <bkerensa> !fstab | georgieee
[15:18] <gwelter> mp_seq=403 ttl=255 time=3.77 ms
[15:18] <bkerensa> georgieee: Also check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[15:18] <georgieee> ISK: The device I am talking about is my nokia e72
[15:19] <bkerensa> viriya: What country are you from perhaps someone from a Ubuntu LoCo might be able to assist you?
[15:19] <bkerensa> !help | gwelter
[15:20] <viriya> from indonesia
[15:20] <albinali> login
[15:21] <albinali> modprobe is not working for me....!
[15:21] <bkerensa> viriya: http://www.ubuntu-id.org/
[15:21] <viriya> is room chat
[15:21] <bkerensa> viriya: The channel is #ubuntu-id
[15:22] <ISK> georgieee, And about your cdrom, It is mounting?
[15:22] <Ken8521> running 11.10, i've got a realtek 8188ce wireless device, it works out of the box, but it is extremely slow (it maxes out around 100k)  functions fine under windows... not even sure where to start in looking at this.
[15:22] <akston> Can you run OpenVPN in a VirtualBox and still use your ISP's given address on your installed system?
[15:22] <albinali> i have usb fax-modem, when i dmesg, it is not connected to any ttyusb port
[15:22] <georgieee> ISK: yeah it is mounting. nokia e72 is also mounting but i don't want fstab to mount my phone when booting.
[15:23] <bkerensa> akston: Sure
[15:24] <akston> bkerensa: Cool thx
[15:24] <albinali> user:
[15:24] <asarch> Is there any bug with ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso and unetbootin?
[15:25] <asarch> I only get the BusyBox shell
[15:25] <asarch> md5sums are ok
[15:25] <shownowon> i'm on a sony vaio vpcy216 laptop, with intel graphics.  The vga out works fine but the built in screen is just blank (ubuntu purple haze).
[15:25] <georgieee> bkerensa: yeah I know the fstab wikis but I dont find anything about telling fstab not to mount automatically besides the option "noauto". An this option clearly doesnt work on my machine.
[15:25] <jocke-l> How can I get rid of that resizebuttuon in ROXTerm's bottom-right corner?
[15:26] <Alchimista> does anyone uses samsung smartphones? The desktop software kies does not have a linux version, os there any other to replace it?
[15:26] <gnusiva> hi all
[15:26] <gnusiva> i cant create a ttyusb port for my usb modem
[15:27] <Shakyj> theadmin, [ptr]xyz an FYI and fix on the crontab problem. I needed an MTA on the server. installing postfix solved it
[15:28] <suppl> could anyone help me with samba? i've got some authentication problems...
[15:28] <compdoc> suppl, what client?
[15:29] <sparkz> Hello #ubuntu i have a problem that i would like to share ... when my computer resumes from pm-suspend ... i just get a black screen and i have to reboot (it's a eeepc 1215B)
[15:29] <suppl> compdoc, yes i cant connect properly to my w7 machine (some authentication problem)
[15:29] <sparkz> any ideas ?
[15:30] <bkerensa> gnusiva: This might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Setserial
[15:30] <compdoc> suppl, you have to make a change to the local security policy
[15:30] <bkerensa> sparkz: What release of Ubuntu are you running?
[15:30] <sparkz> bkerensa : last one 11.04 i think
[15:30] <compdoc> suppl, in win7
[15:30] <qbizzle> niceguyjames: Do you think you could help me out with something?
[15:31] <suppl> compdoc, thanks will check it :)
[15:31] <qbizzle> niceguyjames: I'm noticing that some of the preference screens behave oddly when I try to use them with xmonad
[15:31] <niceguyjames> qbizzle: hello. how an I help
[15:31] <bkerensa> sparkz: Have you ran all updates?
[15:31] <compdoc> suppl, goolge:  Network security: LAN Manager authentication level  -   Send LM & NTLM responses
[15:32] <sparkz> bkerensa : ye dist-upgrade and all that good jazz
[15:32] <jocke-l> How can I get rid of that resizebuttuon in ROXTerm's bottom-right corner?
[15:33] <suppl> compdoc, thanks
[15:33] <Topcat> what's the default terminal editor if vim nor nano work?
[15:33] <akston> Any known problems with Virtualbox in the 11.04 software center? Shoudl I just get the blob from their website? It's complaining the kernel module hasn't gone in
[15:33] <mneptok> sparkz: 11.10 is the most recent release.
[15:33] <bkerensa> sparkz: Seems like this might be kernel related I think if you upgrade to 11.10 this would be resolved although there are work arounds depending on your devices graphic card
[15:33] <mneptok> sparkz: are you comfortable looking through various system logs and trying to find the exact error that gets generated? or is Linux somewhat new to you?
[15:34] <qbizzle> niceguyjames: I tried this tutorial: http://bit.ly/jI7XsA
[15:34] <sparkz> mneptok : i'm not taht new to linux but i haven't done any crazy things like that in system and log files
[15:34] <mneptok> Topcat: i have never seen vi(m) or nano just flat-out "not work"
[15:34] <sparkz> bkerensa : so i just have to upgrade according to you ?
[15:34] <jocke-l> Topcat: why wouldn't those work?
[15:35] <mneptok> sparkz: /var/log/messages and /var/log/kernel.log are places to start. if you don't feel comfortable, then the answer is "suspend/resume is very tricky on Linux, so don't use it." :/
[15:35] <ineededausername> can anyone help me with a partitioning problem
[15:35] <Topcat>  mneptok : /bin/sh sudo: not found -- However I did run this from inside a mounted windows, should I try the full path to nano or vim? if so what is it
[15:35] <sparkz> mneptok : thx I'll have a look in this and try not to mess everythings up ;)
[15:36] <mneptok> Topcat: what command generates that error?
[15:36] <ineededausername> "failed to determine whether /dev/sda2 is mounted: io error"
[15:36] <ISK> georgieee, Plz, sudo umount /media/George_, after sudo mount -a
[15:36] <bkerensa> sparkz: I'm sure there is a workaround depending on your graphic card although a upgrade to 11.10 would likely fix it completely since it is a Kernel issue
[15:36] <Topcat> mneptok: sudo nano unattend.xml
[15:36] <jocke-l> isn't there anyone who knows how to remove the annoying resizebutton in roxterm?
[15:36] <mneptok> Topcat: and unattend.xml is in your PWD?
[15:36] <Topcat> mneptok: does the same thing with vim with/out sudo
[15:36] <sparkz> bkerensa : thx i'll do that as well ;)
[15:36] <Topcat> mneptok: PWD?
[15:37] <mneptok> Topcat: in a terminal - pwd && ls -l
[15:37] <jocke-l> Topcat: your current directory
[15:37] <Topcat> mneptok: I ran that from /mnt/mysda2/Windows/System32/sysprep
[15:38] <mneptok> Topcat: the command "sudo nano unattend.xml" translates to "as the super-user, use nano to open a file called unattend.xml, which is located in the directory i'm currently using"
[15:38] <thinkclay1> How would I get an ethernet card working for IGB? Is there a way I can bypass a manual process that will involve USB and just use some other driver to get a barebone connection up? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/igb.4freebsd.html
[15:38] <mneptok> Topcat: ls -l /mnt/mysda2/Windows/System32/sysprep
[15:39] <mneptok> Topcat: do you see "unattend.xml" in that list?
[15:39] <Topcat> mneptok: yeah
[15:39] <mneptok> Topcat: sudo nano /mnt/mysda2/Windows/System32/sysprep
[15:39] <mneptok> grrr
[15:39] <mneptok> Topcat: sudo nano /mnt/mysda2/Windows/System32/sysprep/unattend.xml
[15:40] <Topcat> mneptok: ok 1 sec, you can copy/paste :P
[15:40] <jocke-l> Topcat: or just, type unattend and press tab two times, to get a list of the files that starts with that, if there are any
[15:40] <mneptok> jocke-l: depending on the shell in use, and its completion methods, that may or may not work.
[15:41] <jocke-l> mneptok: ubuntu have bash as default? :D
[15:41] <EvilResistance> jocke-l:  yes by default ubuntu uses bash
[15:41] <mneptok> jocke-l: yes, but assuming everyone is using the default is not a safe bet.
[15:41] <jocke-l> mneptok: true
[15:42] <JeroenDeDauw> I have a Kubuntu install with full disk encryption. Installed Gnome and enabled auto login for an account. Now after I fill in my full disk encryption password, it hangs and no longer boots my stuff :/
[15:42] <jocke-l> for instance, i use dwm instead of gnome
[15:43] <Topcat> mneptok: nope. Could it be possible vim and nano aren't ready yet even though I'm at a terminal.... I'm not 100% this PXE ubuntu has booted right
[15:43] <mneptok> Topcat: nano and.or vim are not generating errors. your command is. the shell is complaining, not an editor.
[15:44] <Topcat>  mneptok I was afraid of that :P
[15:44] <mneptok> Topcat: and i highly doubt that you typed "sudo nano /mnt/mysda2/Windows/System32/sysprep/unattend.xml" and the resulting output was "nope"
[15:44] <mneptok> Topcat: so what *was* the output?
[15:45] <bkerensa> JeroenDeDauw: Have you tried booting into recovery?
[15:45] <Topcat> mneptok: just before i do that, my shell isn't a machine it's (initramfs) _  any clearer
[15:46] <mneptok> Topcat: how did you mount a Windows partition from an emergency shell that doesn't load NTFS drivers (AFAIK)
[15:47] <jocke-l> mneptok: well, it isn't impossible to do that, is it?
[15:47] <Topcat> mneptok: I don't know, usually it's given me trouble way before this, I thought I was home free.  PXE launched the ubuntu.iso but it has come to this shell after the ubuntu loading screen. So has something gone wrong and this is like debugging?
[15:48] <mneptok> Topcat: if you have been dumped to initramfs after attempting a PXE boot, then there is something wrong with your PXE setup.
[15:48] <private_meta> As far as I know, gcc 4.4 is still default for Ubuntu, or is it 4.6 already?
[15:49] <pangolin> 4.4
[15:49] <private_meta> Any idea when or if 4.6 is going to be used as default?
[15:49] <pangolin> private_meta: sorry 4.6
[15:49] <private_meta> hmm
[15:49] <Topcat> mneptok: typical :P I really only need to edit this unattend file... I'm stuck aren't I.
[15:49] <pangolin> private_meta: in ubuntu 11.10
[15:49] <private_meta> in LTS the 4.6 isn't even in the repo apparently
[15:49] <mneptok> Topcat: remember the robot from "Lost In Space" that used to flail its arms and yell "DANGER WILL ROBINSON!!!"?  getting busybox or just initramfs upon botting is Linux doing the same thing.
[15:50] <mneptok> *booting
[15:50]  * mneptok gos for more coffee
[15:50] <Topcat> mneptok: haha, ok. surprised I got into ntfs so easily at this stage. wasn't even that straight forward in arch
[15:51] <Titomen> if i get some error messages at boot, will this be on a log file were i can check what it is?
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> Titomen  try dmesg
[15:53] <netgene> I lost my administrator (and only) password to my system. I am trying to recover using LiveCD however everytime I go into the system it says the /etc/passwd is read only, therefore I can't issue "passwd" commands.  Any suggestions? Thank you.
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[15:55] <JeroenDeDauw> bkerensa: yeah, recovery mode hangs as well
[15:55] <DoctorD> for this laptop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/807534/ what ubuntu to use? 32 bit or 64 bit ?
[15:56] <jocke-l> netgene: have you chroot into your installations root?
[15:56] <corretico_> How I can set a Evolution on a top bar option in Unity?
[15:57] <jutnux> You mean the menu bar? You cannot.
[15:57] <DJones> DoctorD: According to http://ark.intel.com/products/55626/Intel-Pentium-Processor-B940-(2M-Cache-2_00-GHz) Thats a 64 bit processor
[15:57] <geoffmcc> netgene: also, rather than using Live CD, where you will need to mount your drive to change password. Try recovery mode and then drop to shell
[15:57] <DoctorD> Djones: so i can use both: 32 or 64
[15:58] <DoctorD> but its recommended if i have 64 to use 64 ? it works much better ?
[15:58] <DJones> DoctorD: You should be able to, I've got an i3 which runs 64 bit with no problems
[15:58] <bkerensa> JeroenDeDauw: Might try getting into root terminal via recovery and check logs to see what is hanging
[15:58] <DoctorD> what;s the difference between 32 and 64
[15:59] <DoctorD> i mean...there are major differences
[15:59] <DoctorD> ?
[15:59] <Snicksie> DoctorD, 64bit is most of the time prefered :) It will recognize all your memory (where 32bit most of the time only recognizes 3Gb max (but you have 3Gb, so that shouldnt make any diference)
[16:00] <netgene> I did chroot /mnt  and it didnt let me edit it still..
[16:00] <netgene> Also using the recovery mode, asks me for my root password!
[16:00] <DoctorD> thanks a lot. i think i will use 32..and if i go to more RAM GB i will set up the 64 one. thanks
[16:00] <DJones> DoctorD: http://askubuntu.com/questions/7034/difference-between-32bit-and-64-bit
[16:00] <netgene> I go in in recovery mode, and I try to go into console mode and it prompts for my root password or Ctrl D to go back? but i dont have the root password.
[16:01] <EvilResistance> Snicksie:  you're forgetting about PAE, if their system supports it
[16:01] <_apostate_> is www.distrowatch.com down for anyone else?
[16:01] <elijah> I am trying to use rm -f to remove all files in a directory per http://www.computerhope.com/unix/urm.htm, I can't seem to get it to work either inside the directory or outside the directory. What am I doing wrong?
[16:01] <elijah> _apostate_: works for me
[16:02] <_apostate_> ah - maybe some dns issue with my isp
[16:03] <netgene> elijah: use rm -rf
[16:03] <netgene> elijah: be sure to type the path correct.. you may delete everything if you are not careful.    example:  rm -rf /path/to/folder
[16:03] <akston> Should I expect 12.04 to be much more of a burden on my netbook than 10.04 or about the same?
[16:04] <geoffmcc> netgene: have a look @ http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/  OR http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-recover-password-under-ubuntu.html
[16:04] <jutnux> akston: Much more
[16:04] <mneptok> elijah: rm -rf /path/to/directory
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> akston  basically, every new release is worse than the previous
[16:05] <mneptok> elijah: without the "r" flag it will not recurse through a directory
[16:05] <akston> Meaning it will be sloowerrr? Well that's not good news :(
[16:05] <mneptok> akston: try Xubuntu or Lubuntu. both have lower resource demands.
[16:05] <jutnux> !who | akston
[16:05] <elijah> netgene: I am using it on a test folder first, so thanks
[16:05] <jutnux> akston: But yes, it'll be slower.
[16:06] <elijah> netgene: Hmm, it appears it was just rm *
[16:06] <diverdude> WHen i do /etc/group | grep www-data i get: www-data:x:33:
[16:06] <diverdude> bdi:x:1000:www-data. What is x:33 and x:1000 ?
[16:06] <akston> mneptok: jutnux: I'm hoping for a Studio 12.04 LTS, and they'll be using LXDE or something
[16:06] <rumpe1> diverdude, man group: group_name:password:GID:user_list
[16:07] <netgene> geoffmcc: Those steps are exactly what I am doing line by line. It doesn't work.   I am mounting the right hard drive, I do the chroot, and it works witout error, however any operation involving /etc it says is in readonly mode and won't let me execute  "passwd"  not even let me manually save the /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow files
[16:07] <rumpe1> diverdude, so it's password(placeholder):groupID
[16:07] <geoffmcc> elijah: you do realise rm * is saying to remove everything in current directory, right
[16:07] <jutnux> akston: Alternatively download Ubuntu and install LXDE.
[16:07] <diverdude> rumpe1, what is a password(placeholder) ?
[16:08] <rumpe1> diverdude, it means that x stands for the place for the password, which is stored elsewhere and not directly in that file.
[16:08] <rumpe1> diverdude, see man shadow (i guess)
[16:09] <geoffmcc> netgene: not sure then, its been forever since i had to do it, but when i did - this is how i did it. Maybe take a look at the second link i gave.
[16:09] <geoffmcc> netgene: although, i have never done it via that method
[16:09] <elijah> geoffmcc: Yes, that was my original question so that is exactly what I wanted! The guide at http://www.computerhope.com/unix/urm.htm is either wrong or for a different version of rm. Not sure but it says rm -f will remove all files in a directory, I couldn't get it to work.
[16:09] <diverdude> rumpe1, ahh ok...so www-data:x:33:     bdi:x:1000:www-data  indicates what www-data is in groupid 33?
[16:09] <mneptok> akston: seeing that Studio ships witn only a CLI installer on a 1.8GB image, i don't think low resource utilization is at the top of the Studio developers list of must-haves.
[16:10] <rumpe1> diverdude, not "is in" more like "has the". The filesystem itself stores just numerical identifiers.
[16:10] <mneptok> akston: rich multimedia creation and editing is not something most people would hand to a netbook.
[16:10] <geoffmcc> elijah: yea i didnt read threw your whole msg, i jsut saw you were trying to remove something, just wanted to make sure you knew * was wild card. Anyways not sure about rm -f, never used it, anytime i need remove a dir i do rm -rf name
[16:11] <elijah> geoffmcc: Good to know, thanks for your help!
[16:11] <akston> mneptok: No, but DAWs and softsynths don't take much CPU if they're not running... I'd have it on my workstation as well though
[16:11] <diverdude> rumpe1, ok...so www-data has the groupid 33 and bdi has the groupid 1000 and www-data or what?
[16:13] <akston> mneptok: 'Netbook' in this case actually has dual core celeron, so it's got a bit more zing than an Atom or something
[16:13] <rumpe1> diverdude, groupIDs: www-data(as a group name):33, bdi:1000   and www-data is a member of the bdi group.
[16:13] <mneptok> akston: max the RAM and swap space and pray to whatever gods your family worships. :)
[16:13] <elik_work> Hey, I have a weird problem with an old computer. The left column of the console wraps to the right. Can it be saved?
[16:14] <doxin> how do i make alt-click not pop up a menu thing? it's quite annoying when using blender.
[16:14] <akston> mneptok: Heh will do
[16:14] <kapare> Hi!
[16:14] <diverdude> rumpe1, ahh ok i see
[16:15] <diverdude> rumpe1, but then i don't understand why my sdetup don't work :/
[16:15] <kapare> I'm trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and I am having Could not calculate the upgrade problem... I try to deactivate all settings except main but still same error??? any clue? thx
[16:15] <elik_work> also, whenever something extensive is displayed on the console, it becomes broken (doesn't display when I type)
[16:17] <diverdude> what does the 'd' stand for in drwxrwxr-x ?
[16:17] <EvilResistance> diverdude:  "directory" i think
[16:17] <llutz> diverdude: directory
[16:17] <diverdude> ahh yeah ok
[16:17] <diverdude> ok then i understand why my setup dont work :D
[16:17] <geoffmcc> elik_work: although i am not sure i understand your description, but the first thing that comes to my mind is maybe your having monitor problems and not pc problems
[16:18] <llutz> diverdude: http://bashshell.net/file-permissions-and-attributes/understanding-linux-file-types/
[16:20] <bieb> I am building a kiosk with 11.10.. I have it autologging in the kiosk user.. but I have to change a config file.. I can't get to a prompt from inside the kiosk, so I booted and selected to run Ubuntu in recovery mode, and dropped to a command prompt. I am the root user, when I try to save the config file it errors telling me it's a read only filesystem.. how can I mount in r+w mode?
[16:21] <elik_work> geoffmcc: hum, no, the monitor is ruled out of the equation since it work with another pc
[16:23] <z3r0c007> hello can you help me
[16:23] <z3r0c007> about my ubuntu 11.10
[16:23] <subdesign> hi, if I dev under ubuntu , can I use virtualbox/windows to check site layouts under ie6-7-8-9
[16:23] <subdesign> ?
[16:24] <KM0201> i have a realtek wireless device that is ungodly slow on 11.10 (works fine on 'doze), any suggestions on where to start so i can trouble shoot this?02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)
[16:24] <KM0201> subdesign: why couldn't you?
[16:24] <jutnux> KM0201: Check in additional drivers to see if there is any updates for it.
[16:25] <subdesign> KM0201, never tried want to know the theory if I could
[16:25] <z3r0c007> any one who can help me about my OS?
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> z3r0c007  you first have to ask a question, or we'll never know
[16:26] <z3r0c007> monkeydust: it's not possible to reboot my OS
[16:26] <subdesign> KM0201, so I can reach from vb/windows the ubuntu localhost ?
[16:26] <z3r0c007> monkeydust: any command or driver to fixed my OS
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> z3r0c007  'not possible'? what have you done and tried before you came here for advice? what are the errors?
[16:27] <z3r0c007> i have no errors but all my flash drive and memory card won't work or displaying in my desktop
[16:28] <pangolin> z3r0c007: How are you trying to reboot?
[16:28] <kapare> anybody have fall on the error Could not calculate the upgrade during upgrade to 11.10?
[16:28] <jutnux> z3r0c007: Pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l please
[16:28] <jutnux> kapare: No.
[16:28] <kapare> jutnux, thx
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> subdesign  yes, if vb and the host in the same network - set the vb network type to 'bridged' to obtain this
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> are*
[16:30] <recon69> they did such a good job with empathy the did not need to add any user preferances
[16:30] <z3r0c007> pangolin: restart and reboot using grub
[16:30] <pangolin> z3r0c007: i am sorry but you need to be a lot mroe clear.
[16:30] <z3r0c007> jutnux: wait
[16:30] <pangolin> more*
[16:31] <z3r0c007> pangolin:wait
[16:32] <wabash> Hi. I used to love Ubu a lot. Now I'm not so sure. Anyone here have any luck with the newest and next ubuntu, using a different desktop?
[16:32] <morri> i am using lubuntu, because ubuntu doesnt run well on my olde machine
[16:32] <tertl5> u mean 12?
[16:32] <morri> i have heard mint is going for a new desktop for its next version
[16:32] <recon69> was just about to ask how to get the classic look back, but i guess i should check google first
[16:32] <jutnux> morri: Mint isn't supported here, so don't discuss it.
[16:33] <israel> !mint
[16:33] <morri> :P
[16:33] <morri> so you can still talk about it :P
[16:33] <CharminTheMoose> When I do 'startx' on a debootstrapped 11.04 system, neither a PS/2 or usb based mouse are detected. How can I get this to work?
[16:33] <jutnux> No, you can't.
[16:33] <morri> I am not seeking for any help :P
[16:33] <subdesign> thx i found the solution by google
[16:33] <pangolin> morri: actually no, it is offtopic, join #ubuntu-offtopic to 'talk"
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> morri  this is the help channel, so not here
[16:33] <recon69> dark window titles, cant tell where on begins and the next ends
[16:34] <morri> okay was just telling the guy who started the talk about it :P
[16:35] <recon69> how do i stop all the 'joined' 'disconnected' messages in empathy
[16:35] <blitzkev> how do I get banshee player to play last.fm radio stations?
[16:37] <zykotick9> recon69: you *might* be better served getting a dedicated IRC client vs. trying to use an IM client for IRC.  I have no idea on your actual empathy issue (but could help with either xchat or irssi).
[16:38] <wabash> morri: What is lubuntu?
[16:38] <zykotick9> !lubuntu
[16:38] <Nach0z> ubuntu with an lxde window manager
[16:38] <jutnux> wabash: Ubuntu with a LXDE DE
[16:38] <doxin> how do i make alt-click not pop up a menu thing? it's quite annoying when using blender.
[16:38] <wabash> jutnux: Is it supported?
[16:38] <Nach0z> lxde is only good when you install it manually, otherwise it looks like crap. lubuntu looks like windows classic, but lxde is like... epic.
[16:38] <jutnux> wabash: I /don't/ think so.
[16:38] <wabash> Oh, don't want windows classic.
[16:38] <jutnux> Not in here, anyway.
[16:39] <morri> it doesnt look like windows classic...
[16:39] <Nach0z> wabash: better to install Ubuntu and put LXDE on afterwrds manually.
[16:39] <wabash> Well, I'd like recommendations from you all. How do I get all the good setup, security, and so on with Ubuntu, but without Unity?
[16:39] <wabash> What's the best way to do it? Install Ubuntu, then change the desktop?
[16:39] <morri> nah that wouldnt make sense- the advantage in lubuntu is that you get all these low weight prgrammes too
[16:39] <zykotick9> jutnux: asking kubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu questions in #ubuntu isn't exactly "offtopic"
[16:39] <CharminTheMoose> When I do 'startx' on a debootstrapped 11.04 system, neither a PS/2 or usb based mouse are detected. How can I get this to work?
[16:40] <jutnux> zykotick9: What?
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> wabash  try Zentya, it's ubuntu based (but not supported here)
[16:40] <jutnux> zykotick9: The bot even says to join #lubuntu for support.
[16:41] <recon69> zykotick9 , thx for the advice. I'm afraid my issue it that i dislike the unity interface
[16:41] <zykotick9> jutnux: they are quasi-supported here, as well as in there dedicated channels (for "general" ubuntu questions, it's fine to ask here is what i'm saying)
[16:41] <morri> I like it ^^
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> wabash  forget my advice, i thought you wanted monitoring
[16:41] <jutnux> zykotick9: Ok, thanks for telling me.
[16:41] <zykotick9> recon69: what does unity have to do with you irc client?
[16:42] <morri> faster than mint and not as green xD
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Mint is not green anymore
[16:42] <recon69> have spent several minutes looking for the console and still have not found it
[16:42] <wabash> Yes, so any recommendations? How do I get all the good stuff of Ubuntu without Unity? I can get Kubuntu, etc. But then:
[16:42] <wabash> 1) are derivatives like Kubuntu going to be as secure, security updates, and so on? Same file structure from root?
[16:42] <wabash> 2) is it better, or even possible to just get Ubuntu, and replace the desktop manually?
[16:43] <thinkclay1> what is the best way to go about setting up a raid10 array in Ubunt 10LTS? I found this article (http://www.howtoforge.com/install-ubuntu-with-software-raid-10), but I also see the option to setup software raid in the partition manager.. so LVM vs Configure Software Raid vs Article / Manual.. can someone help me decide?
[16:43] <vto> hello, does groups in linux have permissions per se? i mean, can i assign permissions to a group and then assign that group to a file so the file whill have those group permissions?/
[16:43] <zykotick9> wabash: if you install from the cli mini ISO you can install ONLY what you want on a vanilla ubuntu - including the DE/WM or your choice.
[16:43] <dinkey> hi
[16:44] <dinkey> Is this the right place to ask about VNC?
[16:44] <wabash> vto:  You create a group. You can assign users to groups. Then you can assign files to groups. Then set group-level permissions on individual files.
[16:44] <JonathanEllis> When I switch on my computer grub won't load the first kernel in the list. The kernel was upgraded sometime ago but I think the upgrade failed. As its grub 2 I cant edit the kernel list but the bigger problem is now I cant install any packages. I'm using ubuntu 8.04.4
[16:44] <zykotick9> vto: that's how groups work yes
[16:44] <wabash> zykotick9: Ok, and how bout from the live CD?
[16:45] <auronandace> JonathanEllis: desktop or server?
[16:45] <epod> Can anyone tell me if this will run Ubuntu decently: http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/lenovo-lenovo-15-6-laptop-featuring-amd-c-50-processor-438342u-black-english-438342u/10188457.aspx?path=46c9539eaa8823a457fed72e95513beeen02
[16:45] <JonathanEllis> auronandace: desktop
[16:45] <zykotick9> wabash: if you need LiveCD for install, pick one of the derivatives: kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu (they get the same security supports as ubuntu)
[16:45] <auronandace> JonathanEllis: only server is now supported
[16:46] <dinkey> Is this the place to ask about VNC-related issues?
[16:46] <zykotick9> wabash: they all get there packages from the same place, the ubuntu repo.
[16:46] <dinkey> Or is there a channel for that?
[16:46] <compdoc> dinkey, what issues?
[16:46] <dinkey> compdoc: Getting it to work.
[16:46] <dinkey> The server.
[16:46] <dinkey> On Ubuntu.
[16:46] <auronandace> !8.04 | JonathanEllis
[16:46] <gqgunhed> hello out there
[16:46] <JonathanEllis> auronandace: This is a problem for me as my hardware wont run any more up to date release
[16:46] <compdoc> dinkey, which vnc server did you install?
[16:47] <dinkey> Hm. I can't remember. :(
[16:47] <compdoc> I like vnc4server
[16:47] <auronandace> JonathanEllis: that doesn't automatically means desktop is now supported
[16:47] <dinkey> tinyvnc. Is that a name?=
[16:47] <dinkey> ?*
[16:47] <dinkey> I'm fairly new to Ubuntu - I'm just getting the hang of the basics.
[16:47] <wabash> zykotick9: Ah, so you are saying that because of the common repo, they will be just as secure as Ubuntu?
[16:47] <zykotick9> wabash: exactly
[16:47] <auronandace> JonathanEllis: why won't your hardware run a more recent release?
[16:47] <dinkey> Tried to set up a VNC server via SSH the other day, and it's up and running and all that jazz, but for some reason a gray screen is showing.
[16:48] <morri> kde sucks wabash I d say go with lubuntu or xubuntu ;)
[16:48] <dinkey> compdoc: vncserver runs the app and its located in /home/user/.vnc/xstartup
[16:48] <dinkey> Does that tell you anything?
[16:48] <JonathanEllis> auronandace: Last I heard there is no graphics driver for my graphics card on any newer release.
[16:48] <Riddell> morri: please be more respectful
[16:48] <wabash> What was "xubuntu" again?
[16:48] <zykotick9> dinkey: that grey screen can (but not always) be due to compiz running [not sure how that works with Unity as Unity requires compiz]
[16:48] <dinkey> compdoc: Ah - TightVNC.
[16:48] <compdoc> dinkey, you might need to edit the xstartup file in the .vnc folder
[16:48] <auronandace> JonathanEllis: what graphics you have?
[16:49] <auronandace> !xubuntu | wabash
[16:49] <dinkey> zykotick9: I don't have a DE running yet. I installed this via terminal
[16:49] <dinkey> I read somewhere that it might have something to do with access rights to the autostart config file
[16:49] <dinkey> uh
[16:49] <JonathanEllis> auronandace: Its a twin display matrox card of some description. Cant remember which one.
[16:49] <dinkey> Yeah!
[16:49] <dinkey> That's actually the issue now that I'm reading the logfile. It's telling me it can't access /home/user/.vnc/xstartup.
[16:50] <dinkey> I tried to google it earlier in order to remedy the problem, but I'm not entirely sure what to do.
[16:50] <zykotick9> dinkey: so, if you don't have Xorg, WHY do you need VNC?  use ssh instead.
[16:50] <compdoc> dinkey, theres one file that sometimes needs to be set to be executable
[16:50] <dinkey> zykotick9: I want a DE to remote to.
[16:50] <dinkey> compdoc: Well, I found a potential issue ^
[16:50] <JonathanEllis> auronandace: Its a Matrox G200
[16:50] <dinkey> Know what I need to do with the file?
[16:50] <morri> okay then I say I don't like KDE better :P
[16:50] <compdoc> dinkey, did you set the vnc password? that creates the .vnc folder, etc
[16:50] <wabash> zykotick9: Ok, so say I have Ubuntu 11. If I install this, is it easy to change the desktop environment?
[16:51] <dinkey> compdoc: Yeah I set a password.
[16:51] <compdoc> k
[16:51] <dinkey> It just can't access the file.
[16:51] <zykotick9> wabash: yes (but there is no Ubuntu 11, there is an 11.04 and an 11.10, but no 11)
[16:51] <wabash> zykotick9: Yes, referring to 11.10
[16:51] <compdoc> dinkey, post the xstartup file on pastebin
[16:51] <dinkey> compdoc: Do you know what the best way to get it access is?
[16:51] <wabash> zykotick9: So, with 11.10, is it a matter of going to the software center and installing something?
[16:51] <dinkey> Ok.
[16:52] <zykotick9> wabash: yup, then select what you installed at login
[16:52] <compdoc> dinkey, the xstartup file is in a hidden folder, and should have rights for your username
[16:52] <dinkey> compdoc: It's there alright and I can edit it with sudo
[16:52] <compdoc> good
[16:52] <dinkey> but the vnc server app doesn't seem to have access to it
[16:53] <dinkey> Do you still want me to paste its contents?
[16:53] <compdoc> unfortunately, I dont use tightvnc
[16:53] <dinkey> Alright.
[16:53] <dinkey> Do you want me to get another VNC app?
[16:53] <wabash> zykotick9: Oh, fuck.. so I'd have to select it every time I log in??
[16:53] <wabash> zykotick9: Is there a way to change the default?
[16:54] <zykotick9> wabash: yes, it probably remembers (P.S. watch the language in this channel)
[16:54] <compdoc> dinkey, well, you would prolly need to remove tightvnc completely before changing
[16:54] <dinkey> Would installing the other vnc app be a hassle?
[16:54] <wabash> zykotick9: Really? This channel is downright civilized then!
[16:54] <zykotick9> !language
[16:54] <auronandace> JonathanEllis: matrox themselves don't seem to be supporting the driver anymore (last release in 2006)
[16:55] <compdoc> dinkey, it might be
[16:55] <wabash> zykotick9: Were there big changes to the way the / structure is laid out between 10.10 and 11.10?
[16:55] <JonathanEllis> auronandace: That's right. I got my card working using a driver from http://forum.tuxx-home.at/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=748&sid=0d433f4ca445cc74d20d384e0b68724a
[16:56] <wabash> Also, what is the relese schedule for 12.04?
[16:57] <compdoc> heh
[16:57] <auronandace> wabash: the clue is in the name
[16:57] <dinkey> compdoc: http://pastebin.com/3SPS0dWH
[16:57] <zykotick9> wabash: some with the "multiarch" switch i think - not sure I'd call it "big" changes though
[16:57] <dinkey> compdoc: The file contents is just a random assortment of lines i found online
[16:57] <dinkey> i have no idea what they do
[16:57] <Auriga> I was going to install e4rat, to try & speed up boot times, but it is in conflict with ureadahead, someone online said they removed ureadahead outright, any thoughts on what I might break?
[16:57] <zykotick9> wabash: ubuntu version numbers are the release date, so 12.04 is the 4th month in 2012
[16:57] <wabash> zykotick9: I see.
[16:58] <wabash> auronandace: You must be a European!
[16:58] <compdoc> dinkey, typically, you uncomment the two lines:  unset SESSION_MANAGER     and    exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[16:58] <auronandace> JonathanEllis: i'm not sure what to suggest sorry
[16:58] <compdoc> dinkey, and its /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc that has to be set as executable
[16:58] <auronandace> wabash: why do you conclude that?
[16:58] <JonathanEllis> Maybe I will try downloading the live cd and see if it works but I doubt it.
[16:58] <morri> wabash you can also get a cd with lubuntu- or you remove the ubuntu desktiop via terminal
[16:58] <dinkey> compdoc: How do you mean?
[16:59] <morri> maybe because bt is british telecom?
[16:59] <JonathanEllis> auronandace: You would have no idea how to fix the problem with the package manager in ubuntu 8.04?
[16:59] <dinkey> Isn't it already set to be exec?
[16:59] <dinkey> Considering the line starts with "exec"
[16:59] <wabash> auronandace: the order of the dates!
[16:59] <compdoc> dinkey, best to find someone that uses tightvnc, or do more googling. I have to go - good luck!
[16:59] <wabash> Americans think in terms of 4/12.
[17:00] <wabash> (not that that's a good way to think,.... it sucks and is illogical.)
[17:00] <auronandace> JonathanEllis: well the desktop support has ended for 8.04 so the repos are likely no longer functioning
[17:00] <guntbert> !ot | wabash
[17:00] <wabash> guntbert: Wow, you really haven't been following the conversation have you?
[17:01] <morri> wabash in case you don't know ubuntu is southafrican
[17:01] <guntbert> wabash: I have and talking about formatting of dates is certainly not support related
[17:01] <JonathanEllis> auronandace: Oh I didnt realise the repos would have gone. That explains it
[17:02] <wabash> guntbert: It is when it's in relation to the release date of Ubuntu, no?
[17:02] <guntbert> ewa
[17:02] <morri> not everything is done the US way in the world ;)
[17:03] <guntbert> wabash: no, not everything ubuntu related fits in this channel - eod for me
[17:03] <CharminTheMoose> When I do 'startx' on a debootstrapped 11.04 system, neither a PS/2 or usb based mouse are detected. How can I get this to work?
[17:03] <Lili^> hello
[17:03] <ubuntu_> Hi I have a problem with iptables it does not take --dport anymore
[17:03] <northernen> Where do I find out to which /dev/sdX file my inserted USB stick maps?
[17:04] <JonathanEllis> !hello | Lili^
[17:04] <zykotick9> northernen: "sudo fdisk -l" or "sudo blkid" might help or if you've just inserted it, "dmesg"
[17:04] <Auriga> northernen, Look in disk utility.
[17:04] <Scunizi> Looking at system activity it shows dbus-daemon is consistantly taking 39% of my cpu.  What's with that? Can I lower it?
[17:04] <auronandace> JonathanEllis: that factoid was removed quite a while ago
[17:04] <JonathanEllis> !hi | Lili^
[17:05] <guntbert> JonathanEllis:  that too
[17:05] <Lili^> hello, does anyone knows which one is the default password on a live usb of ubuntu 11.10? i thought user/pass was ubuntu/ubuntu
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> Lili^  there is none
[17:05] <guntbert> Lili^: ubuntu/<nothing>
[17:06] <Lili^> MonkeyDust: you mean "enter" on the empty field?
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> yes
[17:06] <Lili^> wow so simple (but i am guiding someone at the phone so not so silly :) thnk
[17:07] <ubuntu_> Hi I have a problem with iptables it does not take --dport anymore
[17:07] <Lili^> !hi
[17:07] <Lili^> ops
[17:07] <northernen> Found it. Thanks.
[17:08] <osubuck_> is ubuntu going to take part in the jan 18th blackout?
[17:08] <Scunizi> can I kill the dbus-daemon without taking my entire system down?
[17:09] <auronandace> osubuck_: this is a support channel, not a political channel
[17:10] <AndroidLoverInSF> my laptop is 3x slower after i upgradeding from 11.04 to 11.10. not sure why, not much stressing cpu and memory. lenovo thinkpad edge. on kde
[17:10] <auronandace> Scunizi: my guess would be no
[17:10] <osubuck_> auronandace, it is relevant to ubuntu and accessing the website is it not?
[17:11] <jutnux> osubuck_: No, it isn't.
[17:11] <auronandace> AndroidLoverInSF: i usually clean install, too much can go wrong with upgrades
[17:12] <Scunizi> auronandace: any idea why it's eating the cpu so much all the time?
[17:13] <auronandace> Scunizi: sorry, i'm not sure
[17:13] <AndroidLoverInSF> the right now i'm running gnome-ssystem-monitor.  its using 24% cpu though not doing much
[17:14] <AndroidLoverInSF> maybe its graphic driver related. but what to do?
[17:15] <akston> How do I restore the volume widget... I thikn the Google Earth install ate my .gconf, I had to redo all the settings but don't know the package name for the [ALT-left/right] volume widget that composits on the screen
[17:17] <AndroidLoverInSF> even my mouse tracks slowly and erratically when moving it across the screen
[17:18] <ibm-pc> ping me
[17:18] <jutnux> AndroidLoverInSF: Gnome-Shell always uses lots of resources.
[17:19] <AndroidLoverInSF> i'm using kde, gnome-system-monitor is usig lots of cpu, but other stuff also
[17:20] <auronandace> AndroidLoverInSF: why gnome-system-monitor in kde?
[17:20] <Scunizi> AndroidLoverInSF: gnome-system-monitor always uses lots of cpu for some reason.. top in terminal is much lighter weight. how much cpu is the dbus-deamon using?
[17:24] <elik_work> any idea why one of my ethernet card would be named "eth0-eth1"
[17:26] <Caifas> guys, i need to make a img of my remote server with dd, can u help with sintax, "ssh serverip 'dd if=/dev/sda1' | dd of=~/server.img" is this right?
[17:26] <AndroidLoverInSF> i usually use sytem-monitor, but everything is slow not just that, just moving the mouse is slow
[17:27] <thomasd> Great the only active users are floodbots gf getting help
[17:28] <auronandace> thomasd: what are you talking about?
[17:28] <magn3ts> Yeah...
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> Caifas  delete the | dd
[17:29] <thomasd> nvm
[17:29] <Caifas> MonkeyDust: ok, ty
[17:30] <thomasd> apachi has a script cached in memory and i need It to reed directly from the file I am currently In development mode
[17:30] <mbeierl> anyone familiar with the cisco vpn client under Oneric/network manager?  It works if I tether through my iPhone's 3g connection, but not through my home wifi.  Yet my iPhone can establish a VPN connection using the home wifi.
[17:31] <elik_work> Any idea what could be appending -eth0 to one of my interfaces, making it so that I have a card named eht2-eth0
[17:32] <elik_work> I looked at udev rules and the rules seem fine
[17:32] <thomasd> It's crazy because it's still not reading the file even though I ran /etc/init.d/apace2 restart
[17:33] <AndroidLoverInSF> i disabled desktop effects and its way faster now.
[17:34] <AndroidLoverInSF> its hard to tell whether its actually on or off at any moment. you can only check enable at startup, or toggle it live
[17:41] <Scunizi> AndroidLoverInSF: where in kubuntu did you disable desktop effects?
[17:46] <shadfc> can anyone tell me why no pidgin windows are in the alt-tab list?  i'm on 11.10.  I have the buddy list and a conversation window open
[17:47] <thinkclay1> If i have (4) 1TB HD's that I want to raid together and have bootable, will this config work: 128M on each drive as /boot RAID1, then remaining space as another / RAID10 .. and where should I put swap?
[17:48] <schnuffle> thinkclay1: as long as you have a nonraid /boot partition, it's no problem, grub can even handle RAID1
[17:49] <thinkclay1> schnuffle: okay, so my /boot CAN be a RAID1 of like 128M right? Do I have to flag as bootable or just mount /boot?
[17:49] <oscar76> shadfc what desktop are you using?
[17:49] <thinkclay1> schnuffle: and thoughts or insight as to size / location / config of swap?
[17:50] <shadfc> oscar76: unity
[17:50] <schnuffle> thinkclay1: 128M seems to small for me, wait I'll check a RAID1 setup to see
[17:50] <redlegoreng> tomorrow I GO LINUX :) (and fuck apple by the way) i feel free :)
[17:50] <Pookz> .msg nickserv identify im_secretly_gay1
[17:51] <pangolin> !language | redlegoreng
[17:51] <pangolin> Pookz: please change your password #freenode for help with that
[17:51] <schnuffle> thinkclay1: there's no boot flag necessary
[17:52] <schnuffle> thinkclay1: I used 400M to be sure that I can install a couple of kernels and kernel updates
[17:52] <oscar76> shadfc I don't use unity (10.04) but maybe checking the program's window options
[17:52] <shadfc> oscar76: i'm starting to regret the upgrade from 10.04 i did last week
[17:53] <adom> shadfc: haha yeah unity sucks. thats why you try a livecd before you upgrade distros
[17:53] <magda> da
[17:53] <thinkclay1> schnuffle: cool, good to know. I'll kick up to 500M each just to be safe. I still dont get how swap is going to play into all this.. I see some users setup individual swap mounts on each drive but how big would I make those.. and do you think that's the best way to configure swap?
[17:53] <oscar76> shadfc, you can switch to gnome3 anyway
[17:53] <recon69> oscar76 you'r not alone there
[17:54] <oscar76> recon69, nice to know. I love my good old 10.04
[17:54] <recon69> cant bloody find anything in unity, and then when you do it moves
[17:55] <recon69> everything seems to take 3 clicks and 3 different screens
[17:55] <schnuffle> thinkclay1: correction: one disk needs a bootable flag, if you want to make sure you can boot from each drive when one fails, you need to install grub in each disks MBR
[17:56] <schnuffle> thinkclay1: and of course each drive which should be able to boot needs the flag as wel
[17:57] <recon69> right now i cant use firefox because i closed the window while the download window is open, when i try start a instance i just get the download window, which the pauses the download
[17:57] <thinkclay1> schnuffle: okay, I figured I would have to do something like that.. how would I go about putting grub in each of those..? Just set them as a mount /boot ??
[17:58] <recon69> went to customise desktop to try get a better look, cant change the windows title bars from the crap brown they currently are
[17:59] <shadfc> ahh fixed it. installed compiz settings manager and enabled the application switcher plugin
[17:59] <schnuffle> thinkclay1: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-set-up-software-raid1-on-a-running-system-incl-grub2-configuration-ubuntu-10.04-p2
[17:59] <elmntr> .
[18:00] <schnuffle> thinkclay1: boot loader description: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[18:00] <ubuntu_> Hi I have a problem with iptables it does not take --dport anymore
[18:01] <Monkey_b> hey guys, im trying to use ubuntu livedisc to help repair my friends virused up windows computer... and i was going to use clamAV, but i was wondering if anyone knows of something else? reason being is with clamAV i only seem to have the option to remove infected files, and not repair them... and i would rather repair if possible
[18:01] <oscar76> shadfc, glad for you, I didn't now that one
[18:01] <schnuffle> Monkey_b: If you have an infected Win PC, it'S always better to do a fresh install
[18:02] <TimR_> Monkey_b: It's my understanding that repairing rarely works anyway, and that's why ClamAV doesn't offer that option
[18:02] <Monkey_b> got it
[18:02] <schnuffle> Monkey_b: to save labour for the next time, after install make an image
[18:03] <schnuffle> Monkey_b:  Clonezilla does a good job for that purpose
[18:04] <Monkey_b> thank
[18:04] <Monkey_b> s
[18:04] <shadfc> ubuntu_: what rule are you trying?
[18:05] <ubuntu_> sudo iptables -A INPUT -p all --dport 1935 -j DROP
[18:05] <ubuntu_> sudo iptables -A INPUT -p all --dport 1935 -j DROP
[18:05] <ubuntu_> sudo iptables -A OUTPUT --dport 23 -j DROP
[18:05] <ubuntu_> sudo iptables -A INPUT --dport 23 -j DROP
[18:05] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:08] <ubuntu_> shadfc: I want to close every port except http and ssl
[18:09] <dida> hello
[18:09] <ubuntu_> and it looks like somebody does not want that because it worked just some hours ago
[18:09] <ubuntu_> hi dida
[18:09] <dida> could someone tell me how can I compile with the usage of the POSIX library?
[18:10] <dida> i have ubuntu 11.10, trying to compile a C++ script that uses the POSIX library
[18:10] <dida> i wonder how i need to install it ^^
[18:11] <thinkclay1> schnuffle: you rock.. thanks for all your help on this raid stuff!!
[18:11] <schnuffle> dida:  if some libs are missing check the compile output, there should be missing headers
[18:12] <dida> 101: undefined reference to `pthread_create'
[18:12] <dida> /home/dida/.codelite/Test.c:108: undefined reference to `pthread_join'
[18:12] <schnuffle> thinkclay1: your welcome
[18:12] <dida> schnuffle, ^
[18:12] <schnuffle> dida: check for lsb package
[18:12] <dida> sorry, have to go dinner. will be back in asec.
[18:12] <dida> brb
[18:12] <MagusAgnus> guys, do you know any good app to replace the old BitchX?
[18:13] <zykotick9> MagusAgnus: irssi perhaps?
[18:13] <auronandace> MagusAgnus: xchat is my irc client of choice
[18:13] <ubuntu_> konversation
[18:14] <Pici> MagusAgnus: irssi or weechat would be the most similar.
[18:14] <llutz> ubuntu_: set "iptables -P INPUT DROP" and then just open 80/443. what does "iptables it does not take --dport anymore" mean, what error?
[18:14] <MagusAgnus> i want a terminal app
[18:15] <zykotick9> MagusAgnus: irssi or weechat are both cli
[18:15] <MagusAgnus> i `ll try irssi
[18:16] <MagusAgnus> thx zykotick9, Pici, auronandace
[18:16] <zykotick9> MagusAgnus: from #debian's irssi factoid "rumour has it, irssi is the best <IRC> client ever..." so good choice ;)
[18:17] <jutnux> IRSSI <3
[18:17] <jutnux> MagusAgnus: The configuration of IRSSI is a bit of a pain sometimes
[18:18] <MagusAgnus> jutnux: really? why?
[18:18] <recon69> think i'v had it with ubuntu, been a good 8 years
[18:18] <zykotick9> MagusAgnus: i agree, it's non-trivial at first
[18:18] <jutnux> MagusAgnus: You have to add a server, then a network, then a chatnet, then channels.
[18:18] <jutnux> I have a configuration file you could use though
[18:19] <zykotick9> jutnux: careful, be sure you passwords aren't there before sharing
[18:19] <MagusAgnus> jutnux: cool! send me if possible :D
[18:19] <jutnux> zykotick9: Don't worry, I'm not stupid ;-)
[18:19] <MagusAgnus> i miss BitchX so much :-S
[18:20] <MagusAgnus> zykotick9: jutnux: lol
[18:21] <jutnux> MagusAgnus: Ok, one second :p
[18:22] <dida> schnuffle, how can I "check" for the lsb package? ^^
[18:22] <dida> im back btw
[18:22] <MagusAgnus> jutnux: no prob
[18:23] <jutnux> MagusAgnus: 18:21 -!- Star_Light is now known as StrontiumDog
[18:23] <jutnux> Damnit
[18:23] <jutnux> MagusAgnus: sudo mkdir -p ~/.config/irssi && cd ~/.config/irssi && wget -O config  https://raw.github.com/jutnux/.config-files/master/.irssi/config && sudo nano config
[18:23] <jutnux> Should work
[18:23] <zykotick9> dida: "apt-cache policy lsb-core" is one important lsb package (there might be more)
[18:24] <dida> zykotick9, i just did "apt-get install lsb"
[18:24] <dida> ^^
[18:24] <zykotick9> dida: run the above apt-cache policy to veryify that lsb-core is installed as well.
[18:24] <dida> okay
[18:25] <zykotick9> dida: BTW do you have build-essential installed?
[18:25] <dida>   Installed: 4.0-0ubuntu16
[18:25] <dida>   Candidate: 4.0-0ubuntu16
[18:25] <dida>   Version table:
[18:25] <dida>  *** 4.0-0ubuntu16 0
[18:25] <dida>         500 http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main i386 Packages
[18:25] <FloodBot1> dida: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:25] <dida>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[18:25] <Sebastien> and update/upgrade
[18:25] <Sebastien> use www.pastebin.com dida. no pasting in here. EVER!
[18:25] <dida> sorry xD
[18:25] <Sebastien> what does xD means ?
[18:26] <dida> zykotick9, that's good results, right?
[18:27] <zykotick9> dida: yes, the 1st line "Installed: VERSION" means it's installed
[18:27] <zykotick9> dida: it would say "Installed: (none)" if it wasn't
[18:28] <dida> well, i still get the same error when compiling
[18:28] <zykotick9> dida: did you notice my build-essential question?  it's pretty important when compiling things
[18:28] <dida> shall i use a special method when compiling?
[18:28] <dida> yup, i have that
[18:28] <zykotick9> dida: ok
[18:29] <dida> zykotick9, i need to link my project to the POSIX library somehow
[18:29] <dida> how can I do that?
[18:29] <dida> :<
[18:29] <grendal_prime> soooo is there anyway to get Empathy to move to the forground when a message comes in?
[18:29] <zykotick9> dida: "I" have no idea.  Good luck.  (i don't do any programing, and VERY rarely compile anything anymore)
[18:33] <smplman> are there any tools available to create and partition an empty img file for an sdcard?
[18:36] <shanttu> hi. gnome-shell crashed and I cannot use any desktop as default user. as guest no problem. i have no idea what did i do to make this happen
[18:39] <jthurman> Hi. I have a machine running 8.04 LTS (server), and I need to upgrade openssl because of this: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-2/   I've run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade, but openssl still reports being the vulnerable version. I'm not sure what to do next.
[18:41] <E3D3> I messed Grub2 from intern hd when trying to install Trisquel to USB-hd. Ubuntu's doc = 60 screens text, it will cost me a day to learn, remember by head or write it down. Who will help me al little ?
[18:43] <a7i3n> Last update produced a blue desktop with no wallpaper etc...
[18:43] <Lili^> is there a way to check which are the processes that are currently using the hard disk? i have the impression that it is constantly in use and i am experimenting big performance problems
[18:44] <Zizzu> lsof
[18:44] <geirha> Lili^: You might want iotop, you have to install it though.
[18:45] <Rango> i use web8upd repositories to install gnome shell. is there a better one that might have a more recent, yet stable, version?
[18:45]  * pehden is away: I'm busy
[18:45] <Submarine> hi
[18:45] <smplman> does losetup support partitions of an img file?
[18:45] <Submarine> In Ubuntu, if one has many fonts, is there some kind of management utility, perhaps avoiding enormous cluttered menus?
[18:46] <Lili^> Zizzu: do you have some options to suggest to restrict the output (i'll read the man anyway)? geirha tnx, il'll give it a try
[18:46] <ron> is there a simple way (that is, not manually ;)) to add common aliases to ubuntu (such as ll)?
[18:47] <hexacode> hey you guys one of the new applications i downloaded just made itself the default file opener for a certain file type..where do i go to fix this. i want a different program doing this
[18:47] <imbezol> ron: common aliases on what distro?
[18:47] <Zizzu> i have to read the manual too i only remember it can do the job :D
[18:47] <geirha> Lili^: Hehe, lsof is possibly one of the most complex commands I know. I avoid it if I can. Usually fuser suffices in its place. iotop is like the top command, just it shows how much disk io processes uses, instead of cpu and mem.
[18:48] <ron> imbezol: that's a fair question, I honestly can't say, but it seems that all other distros I remember using had those by default. even moreso, I remember having those aliases in ubuntu and I have no idea why they're gone :) of course, I could be imagining things :)
[18:49] <GustavR> Anyone know about DD?
[18:49] <sskalnik> How were kernel module updates done before DKMS? Was it totally manual, or was there a precursor to DKMS?
[18:50] <ro_70s> I have a problem I've described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11616243 -- can anyone help me? it has to do with xmodmap and startup scripts
[18:50] <geirha> GustavR: Don't look for topic experts, just ask the actual question
[18:50] <lov> I've gotten into some strange mode with gnome; I'm clicking on the workspace selector in the lower right hand corner, but for each window it just seems to make its preview representation slightly translucent when I clickl
[18:50] <sskalnik> ron:  Are you talking about symlinks or .bash_aliases?
[18:50] <lov> How do I get the workspace switcher back to the appropriate state, or as a workaround how can I switch workspaces via keyboard shortcut
[18:50] <GustavR> Ok
[18:51] <ron> sskalnik: unfortunately, I can't say.
[18:51] <GustavR> I'm trying to make a image file with my iphone's HD
[18:51] <sskalnik> ron: example?
[18:51] <GustavR> Through SSH
[18:51] <hexacode> hey you guys one of the new applications i downloaded just made itself the default file opener for a certain file type..where do i go to fix this. i want a different program doing this
[18:51] <lov> Additionally, trying to change the number of rows/columns doesn't appear to do anything.
[18:51] <ro_70s> lov: double click the workspace
[18:51] <ron> sskalnik: ll --> ls -la
[18:51] <lov> ro_70s: does nothing.
[18:51] <ro_70s> o
[18:51] <callaghan> Hello, is it possible to restrict a program so it can use only a specific network connection to the internet? I have a hi-speed connection with a 5GB limit and a low-speed connection without a limit. Transmission always uses the first one, can I tell it not to?
[18:51] <GustavR> Wth this:
[18:52] <GustavR> http://modmyi.com/forums/file-mods/662961-recovering-lost-deleted-data-iphone-has-not-been-backed-up.html
[18:52] <ro_70s> callaghan you're looking for QoS setup -- search for help on that
[18:52] <geirha> GustavR: Where will you be running the command? on an ubuntu system? on the iphone itself?
[18:52] <jthurman> Why is it that right after you admit you have a problem to others, *THEN* you have the flash of inspiration that leads to a solution? :)
[18:52] <ro_70s> jthurman :)
[18:52] <sskalnik> ron:  Open up ~/.bash_aliases and add 'alias ll="ls -al"'
[18:52] <GustavR> geirha: On the ubuntu
[18:53] <geirha> GustavR: And your iphone runs an ssh server?
[18:53] <sskalnik> ron:  No single quotes, but you do need the doubles around "ls -al"
[18:53] <GustavR> Yes
[18:53] <GustavR> I've installed the ssh server on both i phone and ubuntu
[18:53] <ron> sskalnik: *nod* I can swear it was there by default though.
[18:53] <lov> ok, it looks like the applet just went stupid.
[18:53] <ro_70s> I have a problem I've described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11616243 -- can anyone help me? it has to do with xmodmap and startup scripts
[18:53] <lov> thanks, nevermind
[18:54] <sskalnik> ron:  Not afaik. I have alias ll="ls -lha" in mine that I manually added
[18:54] <callaghan> ro_70s: oh thanks, I've never heard of that before on Ubuntu :) I thought this was a router-only thing, thanks
[18:54] <geirha> GustavR: Well, in short, it will be something like   ssh user@ip dd if=/dev/the/disk/device > localfile
[18:54] <ro_70s> help  can I get this to run successfully during startup? xmodmap -e "remove mod2 = e"
[18:54] <GustavR> Yes, i'm trying that, but i'm having problems
[18:54] <ro_70s> I meant how can I
[18:55] <ron> sskalnik: okay, I'll make sure to add it. thanks. the -h is for human readable, right? is there something that adds file/directory coloring?
[18:55] <GustavR> When i use the command suggested by that page, it produce the image inside the iphone
[18:55] <sskalnik> ron:  Not sure on the coloring
[18:55] <ro_70s> how can I get this to run successfully during startup? xmodmap -e "remove mod2 = e" ?
[18:55] <ron> sskalnik: that's okay. thanks for the assistance.
[18:55] <geirha> GustavR: Which one? Can you just paste the line you tried?
[18:56] <sskalnik> ron: no prob
[18:56] <ro_70s> it does run, but then something is overriding it later in the startup process apparently
 dd if=/dev/disk0 | ssh username@Computer’sIPaddress ‘dd of=iphone-dump.img’
[18:57] <ro_70s> does anyone understand startup scripts for gnome at all? Or am I wasting my time here?
[18:57] <ron> sskalnik: I'll see the alias only in a new console, right?
[18:57] <geirha> GustavR: That one is meant to be run from the iphone
[18:57] <sskalnik> ron:  If you source bash_aliases, it should happen without the need for a new console afaik
[18:58] <netnomad> I have a question... not a serious one, but a curiosity one.  When I am looking in the applications window (I'm using Gnome), a lot of my applications have "two" icons.  One that is sharp and high resolution, and one that looks like... well... crap.  Is this supposed to be?
[18:59] <geirha> GustavR: And apart from the ‘-quotes, it is valid. You can just drop the quotes in this case.
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> netnomad  perhaps for different screen resolutions
[18:59] <netnomad> Perhaps.  I'm new to this whole Linux thing.  Loving it and learning it quickly... but hitting the odd speed bump from time to time.
[19:00] <GustavR> geirha: I've seen that it's possible to do it from both the iphone and the computer
[19:00] <kristoffer> hey wanna hear a idotic question?
[19:00] <kristoffer> hey, i wass wundering, what do i ansfer when PoL ask me who mutch memory does your video card got? and my specs says Video Memory  up to 2714 MB total graphics memory with 1 GB DDR3 dedicated ? then its 2gb memory or only 1.7?
[19:00] <GustavR> geriha: but now it seems that both should be made on the iphone
[19:00] <geirha> GustavR: Yes, I showed you the other way around.  ssh username@ip-of-the-iphone dd if=/dev/disk > iphone-dump.img
[19:01] <geirha> GustavR: err, sorry,  /dev/disk0  missed the 0
[19:01] <Wargasm> anyone know if there's a way that I can get to programs faster than using Dash home?
[19:01] <Lili^> i just tried iotop to check which process keeps writing on the hard disk: among the big "writers" i have firefox, ubuntuone-sync-daemon, flush-ecryptfs and above all the following :jbd2/sda6-8 & jbd2/sda2-8; googleing around it seems that they are related to ext4 filesystem.. does anyone know how to deal with it to reduce the writing?
[19:01] <GustavR> geirha: Is it really the >? Isnt it a | ?
[19:02] <chad___> I accidentally reformatted and reinstalled Fedora over Ubuntu. Is there any way to recover my files and their names?
[19:02] <kristoffer> Wargasm, i think u use 11.10 righ? just search Ubunto software senter for "dash" then u see a package that say what you are asking for
[19:02] <geirha> GustavR: > file,  | command.   We are storing the result in a file here, so we use the   > file   syntax
[19:02] <Wargasm> yeah 11.1, but its takes forever to look for the program I'm looking for
[19:02] <Wargasm> they all have odd names
[19:03] <Wargasm> in Windows I made my own shortcut folder, but I no longer want use Windows
[19:03] <GustavR> Ok, i'll try it now
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> Wargasm  you can try a different desktop environment (DE)
[19:03] <kristoffer> Wargasm, use a "docking" program
[19:03] <Wargasm> ok thanks
[19:03] <h00k> !undelete | chad___
[19:03] <Odaym> can't I link to a JAR file in a LibreOffice Impress file?
[19:05] <chrislsp> hello
[19:05] <GustavR> geirha: it gave me "ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.100 port 22: No route to host
[19:05] <GustavR> "
[19:06] <geirha> GustavR: That means there's not ssh server accepting connections on port 22 on that ip
[19:06] <GustavR> geirha: What should i do?
[19:07] <winnie666> hello everyone! I have a multi-purpose ubuntu server running at home, (built in a -20s radio, completely passively cooled, cool huh?) and i have NFS and a raid1 up and running. I can't seem to find a good solution to be able to encrypt the whole RAID partition and decrypt it locally from another computer
[19:07] <geirha> GustavR: Do it from the phone instead I guess.
[19:07] <chad___> h00k: I've used Photorec, but am still uncertain how to recover the file names themselves.
[19:08] <geirha> GustavR: Setting up an ssh server on an iphone is way off-topic here at least. :)
[19:08] <h00k> chad___: I don't think you can
[19:08] <winnie666> i was vague: i am open for other suggestions, i wan't to be 100% hack-safe, so i am thinking of somehow encrypting the raid since it will contain personal files, but i need to access the partition from another computer. Suggestions?
[19:09] <chad___> h00k: That's what I was worried about... I'll do some more research. Thank you!
[19:09] <GustavR> geirha: Ok, i'm trying through the iphone
[19:09] <geirha> GustavR: dd if=/dev/disk0 | ssh username@computer-ip 'cat > iphone-dump.img'
[19:09] <chrislsp> I'm having trouble with the installation of eclipse.Can someone help me?
[19:09] <h00k> chad___: good luck!
[19:10] <GustavR> geirha: what is the "cat"?
[19:10] <geirha> GustavR: The quotes there are very important. It must be either ''-quotes or ""-quotes.
[19:10] <ro_70s> I am having a problem with my keyboard. Please see this thread ot describe it, because it is a lot to type: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1910662
[19:10] <geirha> GustavR: You must run a command on the computer you ssh into. cat just outputs whatever it gets as input.
[19:11] <GustavR> geirha: What command?
[19:11] <ro_70s> xmodmap -e "remove mod2 = e"
[19:11] <ro_70s> oo
[19:11] <geirha> GustavR: cat
[19:12] <Rango> has anyone tried SELinux on Ubuntu 11.10?
[19:12] <ro_70s> How can I make changes to the system after gnome has finished making changes to the system at startup ?
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> ro_70s  right click here and there
[19:13] <geirha> GustavR: The one from the page you were reading used dd on both ends, but cat will suffice really.
[19:13] <csabi> hello somebody  can help me??
[19:13] <ro_70s> damn, can't anyone at least acknolwedge the qeustion .. feels like I'm talking to myself in here
[19:14] <Rango> ro_70s, please elaborate. I don't understand your last questions
[19:15] <chrislsp> I'm having trouble with the installation of eclipse.Can someone help me?
[19:15] <t4unt> Hi, can someone help me figure out my next step in getting Ubuntu onto my new computer from a live bootable usb?
[19:15] <csabi> i have problem that i buy new sound card and my voice i heard in speaker it is echo problem where can i settings that not heard my voice in the speaker??
[19:15] <GustavR> geirha:It gave permission denied
[19:15] <ro_70s> Rango: did you read the thread? I elaborated there quite well I thought. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1910662
[19:15] <csabi> i use ubuntu 11.04
[19:15] <t4unt> So far, I have downloaded Ubuntu onto my computer (I am using a mac) . Now apparently I have to convert the .iso to .img but I can't figure out how the command should look
[19:16] <ro_70s> Rango: basically I want to make xmodmap changes after gnome finishes its changes during startup. I would think a start up application would be the perfect place for these changes. But apparently gnome changes things after that
[19:16] <csabi> please help somebody:$
[19:16] <geirha> GustavR: The dd? if so, you don't have read permission to the whole harddrive. Perhaps you need to log in as root ...
[19:16] <Rango> That's not something I'm familiar with. Sorry
[19:17] <ro_70s> Rango: thanks anyway
[19:17] <GustavR> geirha: Login as root on ubuntu or iphone?
[19:17] <ro_70s> Does anyone understand Gnome's startup process?
[19:18] <geirha> GustavR: iphone
[19:18] <csabi> i have problem that i buy new sound card and my voice i heard in speaker it is echo problem where can i settings that not heard my voice in the speaker? i use ubuntu 11.04
[19:19] <hydrox24> csabi: You can try the Pulseaudio volume control (bit like settings
[19:19] <ro_70s> csabi you want to hear your voice through the audio out while recording?
[19:19] <csabi> i try but i not know what do i have to settings..
[19:19] <ro_70s> csabi: or do you want to not hear your voice but for some reason do?
[19:20] <ro_70s> csabi: what language do you speak?
[19:20] <csabi> hungarian sorry:D
[19:20] <csabi> i little speak english..:D
[19:20] <hydrox24> csabi: that's fine then mate
[19:20] <ro_70s> csabi: no problem :)
[19:20] <ro_70s> csabi: do you want to hear your voice from the speakers or to not hear your voice?
[19:20] <hydrox24> csabi: so you want to hear your voice when you record through your laptop?
[19:20] <csabi> so the problem that i hearded my voice back in the speaker..
[19:21] <hydrox24> csabi: so not hear the foldback
[19:21] <ro_70s> csabi ok, what application do you hear your voice?
[19:21] <csabi> usually
[19:21] <hydrox24> ro_70s: is the pulseaudio volume control installed by default?
[19:21] <csabi> yeah
[19:21] <ro_70s> hydrox24: I guess
[19:21] <csabi> i use microphone and i heard back my voice
[19:22] <ro_70s> csabi: :) But which application are you using? is it skype? empathy? audacity?
[19:22] <hydrox24> csabi: go to the unity menu and type in "pulse"
[19:22] <csabi> empathy
[19:22] <hydrox24> ok
[19:22] <ro_70s> ok
[19:23] <csabi> it is echo problem
[19:23] <hydrox24> csabi: OK ignore the last instruction from me
[19:23] <jutnux> csabi: Turn the microphone
[19:23] <csabi> you understand me?:$
[19:23] <hydrox24> csabi: yes we think so
[19:23] <csabi> where do i go??
[19:23] <csabi> settings?
[19:23] <csabi> pulseaudio?
[19:23] <hydrox24> csabi: right click the speaker (sound) icon on the top right of your screen and choose the 'settings' or similar option
[19:24] <csabi> yeah
[19:24] <ro_70s> "Sound settings"
[19:24] <csabi> yeah
[19:24] <csabi> and?
[19:24] <ro_70s> :) kinda curious aobut that myself
[19:24] <hydrox24> the window that has come up is the pulseaudio volume control (essentially settings)
[19:24] <ro_70s> there's no echo control in there hydrox24
[19:25] <csabi> i looking for in google document or blog
[19:25] <ro_70s> he needs the microphone not muted, and the speakers on.
[19:25] <hydrox24> ro_70s: I know, but it might be helpful in a sec, reduce the gain or whatever
[19:25] <quizme> hey
[19:25] <hydrox24> csabi: sorry, doing some googling.
[19:26] <ro_70s> csabi:  what version of ubuntu do you use?
[19:26] <csabi> 11.04
[19:26] <ro_70s> this was a bug in 10.04
[19:26] <ro_70s> oo
[19:26] <csabi> really??
[19:26] <hydrox24> oh
[19:26] <csabi> ohh fuck
[19:26] <hydrox24> ro_70s: nice work
[19:26] <quizme> is there a way to set up an ssh tunnel to my windows box, so that i can access it from ubuntu?
[19:27] <ro_70s> well but he says 11.04
[19:27] <h00k> !language | csabi
[19:27] <hydrox24> csabi: did you upgrade or do a fresh install from 10.10 to 11.04
[19:27] <ro_70s> csabi if you have 11.04 and upgraded from earlier, try reinstalling everything with empathy
[19:27] <LinuxApprentice> how come '/etc/default/tftpd-hpa restart' gives me 'permission denied' as root?
[19:27] <hydrox24> ro_70s: define "everything"
[19:27] <ro_70s> hydrox24: it's [Bug 619571]
[19:27] <jutnux> LinuxApprentice: Perhaps it is owned by someone else
[19:27] <LinuxApprentice> what's the command to see if the tftpd-hpa service is running ?
[19:27] <llutz> LinuxApprentice: when you do what?
[19:28] <csabi> and i not use empathy and i heard back my voice
[19:28] <h00k> LinuxApprentice: try 'sudo service tftp-hpa status'
[19:28] <csabi> usually..
[19:28] <LinuxApprentice> h0
[19:28] <llutz> LinuxApprentice: sudo service tftpd.... restart
[19:28] <LinuxApprentice> h00k:  ok
[19:28] <h00k> LinuxApprentice: I'm pretty sure it's tftp-hpa, not tftpd-hpa
[19:28] <h00k> LinuxApprentice: 'sudo service tftp-hpa restart'
[19:28] <llutz> LinuxApprentice: and you don't use the default-file to start/stop/restart
[19:29] <hydrox24> csabi: what mic are you using>
[19:29] <Wargasm> whats a good desktop environment... just looking for opinions
[19:30] <llutz> !polls | Wargasm
[19:30] <LinuxApprentice> h00k: that worked
[19:30] <aeon-ltd> Wargasm: what are your specifications?
[19:30] <GustavR> geirha: I use root@computer IP or username@ computer ipw
[19:30] <Wargasm> specifications?
[19:30] <hydrox24> csabi: what mic are you using>
[19:30] <hydrox24> csabi: headset, inbuilt, USB?
[19:30] <aeon-ltd> Wargasm: your requirements and your pc's specifications
[19:30] <Wargasm> like what are the guts of my computer?
[19:31] <aeon-ltd> Wargasm: yes
[19:31] <mang0> Ubuntu isn't detecting my microphone. Worked fine in 11.04, but since updating day before yesterday, nothing :/
[19:31] <Wargasm> I have a netbook... low power... convenient.  1.7 ghz Intel Atom, 2 gig ram, thats all I can remember atm
[19:31] <geirha> GustavR: username@computer. You just need to run dd as root
[19:32] <Wargasm> I'd like something a little more user friendly than ubuntu 11.10
[19:32] <Wargasm> I'm having trouble locating programs
[19:32] <Wargasm> I'd like to organize them
[19:32] <robbbie> Wargasm: you won't find a linux distro much more user friendly than ubuntu
[19:32] <aeon-ltd> Wargasm: you can do that in any DE/WM
[19:32] <Lili^> back after reboot - struggling with some problem related to excessive disk writing of some application - i found out that I probably have problems related to the ext4 filesystem; tried to boot with NOATIME, but no success
[19:33] <aeon-ltd> Wargasm: i reccommend xubuntu or lubuntu, or anything that's not KDE, Gnome, compiz, unity --> those are imo too heavy
[19:33] <geirha> Wargasm: Just install a different desktop environment/window manager. Try lxde perhaps.
[19:33] <LinuxApprentice> h00k: what does 'tftp: client: does not accept options' mean? it stays stuck on 'trying to load pxelinux.cfg' on the client
[19:33] <aeon-ltd> Wargasm: though if you've got time i highly reccommend learning to set up standalone WMs like openbox, in openbox everything is organized in the right click menu on the desktop
[19:34] <tertl5> how can I make ubuntu more like windows?
[19:34] <fellayaboy> how do i setup the most secure vpn for my home..i just want to create the most secure connection so when i vnc remote desktop its secure
[19:34] <psp-0854> tert.  What do you need to do?
[19:35] <Wargasm> right clicking doesn't do as much on ubuntu... all I see is make new document... is there a way to fix that?
[19:35] <h00k> LinuxApprentice: I'd assume it's something wrong with your pxelinux.cfg/default file
[19:35] <psp-0854> try kdesktop
[19:35] <aeon-ltd> Wargasm: yes
[19:35] <GustavR> geirha: It says "dd: reading '/dev/disk0': Invalid argument"
[19:35] <aeon-ltd> tertl5: which version of windows?
[19:36] <tertl5> aeon-ltd windows 8
[19:36] <Wargasm> ok, I'm taking notes
[19:36] <aeon-ltd> tertl5: heh not possible, though imma google now
[19:36] <aeon-ltd> Wargasm: i'm afraid i don't know how but i know it's been done
[19:36] <Wargasm> ok lol, thanks for the assist
[19:37] <user123456987> I have ubuntu 10.04 installed alongside with windows7 on my laptop, and I want to reformat the ubuntu partition and install 11.10 . When I try to boot from live CD it just pauses for a minute and then shows me my grub menu asking me whether I want to boot ubuntu 10.04 or windows, so I can't boot from liveCD.
[19:37] <geirha> GustavR: Hum, does /dev/disk0 even exit on your phone?  ls -ld /dev/disk0
[19:37] <h00k> tertl5: check out gnome-look if you want alternative looking themes.
[19:37] <h00k> !themes | tertl5
[19:37] <aeon-ltd> tertl5: you know even if it were possible to make it look like win8 it will never work like win8
[19:37] <GustavR> geirha: Checking...
[19:37] <tertl5> i know :P
 did you run a check image or try reburning?
[19:38] <tertl5> aeon-ltd i liked gnome 2 with compiz
[19:38] <user123456987> not yet
[19:38] <tertl5> does unity have desktop cube?
[19:38] <psp-0854> ya it might be a faulty burn
[19:38] <mneptok> Wargasm:do you have the ability to create USB boot media?
[19:38] <psp-0854> try burning at no more than 8x
[19:38] <Wargasm> yes
[19:38] <tertl5> no 4x
[19:38] <user123456987> OK
[19:38] <Wargasm> thats how I installed ubuntu
[19:38] <psp-0854> do you have virtualbox?
[19:39] <geri> hi
[19:39] <user123456987> no
[19:39] <psp-0854> ya ubu soft center
[19:39] <psp-0854> virtualbox
[19:39] <mneptok> Wargasm: then try Live sessions of both Lubuntu and Xubuntu. both use fewer resources.
[19:39] <psp-0854> you can test your images there first
[19:39] <Wargasm> whats the difference between the two?
[19:39] <aeon-ltd> dude that's ridiculous
[19:39] <h00k> !who
[19:39] <GustavR> geirha: When i use this command, it says: brw-r----- 1 root operator 14, 0 Jan 17 09:54 /dev/disk0
[19:40] <aeon-ltd> psp-0854: virtualbox will be wayy too heavy, testing lubuntu/xubuntu like that is pointless
[19:40] <mneptok> Wargasm: Ubuntu = GNOME/Unity as a user shell. Xubuntu uses XFCE. Lubuntu uses LXDE. Google knows all about those UIs.
[19:40] <psp-0854> aeon:  it helps me verify the download
[19:40] <geirha> GustavR: That looks correct. The root user and any user that are a member of the "operator" group should be able to run that commandline
[19:40] <LinuxApprentice> h00k: do chmod options need to be anything specific on '/srv/tftp/' ?
[19:41] <aeon-ltd> psp-0854: it's easier to just install the meta-package, log out change session and test run like that
[19:41] <mang0> Ubuntu isn't detecting my microphone. Worked fine in 11.04, but since updating day before yesterday, nothing :/
[19:41] <Wargasm> mneptok: I'll load it onto my old box and take a look and see... thanks
[19:41] <psp-0854> aeon: looks like I have homework
[19:41] <GustavR> geirha: There's also something strage, after saying it's an invalid argument, it prompts for a password
[19:41] <user123456987> psp-0854: OK I'll try reburning then following the virtualbox approach
[19:41] <h00k> LinuxApprentice: I don't believe so, at least readable
[19:41] <braybaut> canal de ubuntu en español porfa
[19:41] <user123456987> aeon-ltd, what's meta package?
[19:42] <geirha> GustavR: What's the *exact* line?
[19:42] <h00k> !es | braybaut
[19:42] <braybaut> #ubuntu-es
[19:42] <geirha> GustavR: The command line you ran, I mean
[19:42] <aeon-ltd> user123456987: a package that is a list of packages, ubuntu's pkg manager can use that to pull in all neccessary packages for a DE
[19:42] <Titomen> Can anybody help me with this...i am getting this error message on boot: http://imagebin.org/194124 and this is the script that i get on the log after boot ...http://pastebin.com/SsgmJAmr  can anybody help me
[19:42] <aeon-ltd> user123456987: so essentially you can install xubuntu in ubuntu
[19:42] <mneptok> braybaut: /join #ubuntu-es
[19:42] <robbbie> clear
[19:43] <psp-0854> aeon:  would I use isomaster if I have the full .iso?
[19:43] <aeon-ltd> psp-0854: you're asking the wrong person :) i've never used isomaster
[19:44] <GustavR> geirha: dd if=/dev/disk0 | ssh Gustav@192.168.1.107 'cat  > id.img'
[19:44] <psp-0854> if fun for editing drivers and custom software
[19:44] <psp-0854> its*
[19:44] <user123456987> aeon-ltd, Suppose I have the packages, how do I install a newer version of Ubuntu without upgrading step by step on the versions (I really don't have a lot on that partition so I'd rather just reformat it)?
[19:45] <aeon-ltd> user123456987: do you have a separate /home partition?
[19:45] <zgr> encrypting home needs additional space?
[19:45] <LinuxApprentice> why does my client stay stuck on 'trying to load: pxelinux.cfg/<bunch of numbers>' ?
[19:46] <user123456987> aeon-ltd, no, and I don't have anything in my /home dir. I just installed ubuntu 10.04 and realized it doesn't support my laptop model and I want ubuntu 11.10
[19:46] <h00k> LinuxApprentice: do you have a file in there called 'default', if not, the bunch of numbers is the MAC address of the NIC that's trying to pxeboot
[19:46] <aeon-ltd> user123456987: if you've got nothing on it worth saving yeah just format and install 11.10
[19:46] <geri> hi....is there a fast way to only compile the usb driver of the kernel using make menuconfig?
[19:46] <psp-0854> user123456987:  have you tested unity yet?
[19:47] <user123456987> aeon-ltd, but for some reason I can't boot from LiveCD. when I try it just shows me the "normal" grub menu
[19:47] <psp-0854> 11.10 that is
[19:47] <aeon-ltd> user123456987: have you checked your BIOS settings?
[19:47] <LinuxApprentice> h00k: yes the file is there, but it has an arrow over it, a symlink?
[19:47] <user123456987> psp-0854, I read somewhere that the drivers are included in the newer ubuntu versions
 did you try unetbootin and yea aeon is right boot from cd for sure and I use Isomaster for slax mostly
[19:48] <kristoffer> user123456987, if u want it your call, iam telling u 11.10 wass freezing my X to ofthen :P and i run it for 1month and now iam doing 10.04.3 lucid whit no problem
[19:48] <h00k> LinuxApprentice: that'd be a symlink, I don't know if that can be followed
[19:48] <psp-0854> 10.04.3 lts ftw
[19:48] <kristoffer> psp-0854, xD
[19:48] <user123456987> aeon-ltd, no, what should I look for? I pressed F12 when asked and chosen to "Boot from CD" then it froze for a minute and shown me my "normal" grub menu
[19:48] <geirha> GustavR: That looks correct, but do your username really start with an uppercase letter? Conventionally, usernames are all lowercase.
[19:49] <user123456987> psp-0854, I don't understand, what's isomaster and what's unbooting?
[19:50] <aeon-ltd> user123456987: it probably can't boot from the disk, if you have other mediums you can use PLOP to try and force boot from the disk
[19:50] <aeon-ltd> user123456987: you can use unetbootin to dualboot without a disk just a hdd
[19:50] <user123456987> aeon-ltd, I already performed boot from CD once when installing ubuntu 10.04
[19:50] <KelebekeLite4344> selam
 unetbootin is a nice little program that uses lilo to boot operating systems from a usb.  Isomaster is a program that allows you to disect and save changes to iso's
[19:51] <urlin2u> psp-0854, lilo...really
[19:51] <psp-0854> I think so
[19:51] <LinuxApprentice> h00k: using wget how do i download the contents of an entire folder?
[19:51] <psp-0854> or is it grub4dos
[19:51] <user123456987> psp-0854, so it's `sudo apt-get install unebootin'?
[19:51] <CharminTheMoose> When I do 'startx' on a debootstrapped 11.04 system, neither a PS/2 or usb based mouse are detected. How can I get this to work?
[19:51] <urlin2u> psp-0854, no soup for you., :D
[19:51] <aeon-ltd> user123456987: heh i've got no idea besides blank and reburn or try other mediums
[19:51] <psp-0854> dang
 I think its in the ubuntu software center
[19:52] <GustavR> geirha: When i check in the ubuntu users menu, it is in uppercase
[19:52] <GustavR> but i'll try with lowercase
[19:52] <chris-richard> all of a sudden i'm unable to login with any of my user accounts. i used the root shell to reset password and still unable to login (tried xubuntu login and ssh login). any suggestions?
[19:52] <user123456987> psp-0854, aeon-ltd, OK everybody, I'll try reburning BBS
[19:52] <kristoffer> user123456987, send u a pm
[19:52] <zykotick9> psp-0854: i don't believe unetbootin uses lilo (but haven't been able to prove that via-searching)
[19:53] <LjL> zykotick9, psp-0854: to my knowledge, unetbootin uses syslinux
[19:53] <auronandace> psp-0854: doesn't unetbootin use syslinux
[19:53] <mang0> Ubuntu isn't detecting my microphone. Worked fine in 11.04, but since updating day before yesterday, nothing :/ It's detected in the input settings, and when I speak I can see the levels change, but I can't hear myself when testing with vocaroo.com
[19:53] <zykotick9> LjL: that's what i believe as well
[19:54] <psp-0854> zyko:  label unetbootindefault
[19:54] <psp-0854> menu label Default
[19:54] <psp-0854> kernel /ubnkern
[19:54] <psp-0854> append initrd=/ubninit file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper quiet splash -- looks like lilo but I could be wrong.  Grub4dos uses the append in the kernel line
[19:54] <FloodBot1> psp-0854: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:54] <israel> mang0: unmute it :P
[19:54] <psp-0854> woah
[19:54] <KelebekeLite4344> /server irc.kelebek.gen.tr 6667
[19:54] <mang0> israel: Lol, that was the first thing I checked
[19:55] <GustavR> geirha: Invalid argument again.
[19:55] <preman> hello
[19:55] <GustavR> geirha: I'm not really sure this is my real name on linux, how to check it?
[19:55] <h00k> KelebekeLite4344: Don't spam in here
[19:55] <KelebekeLite4344> no
[19:55] <preman> anybody there
[19:55] <KelebekeLite4344> spam
[19:55] <KelebekeLite4344> very good chat
[19:55] <LinuxApprentice> if i am in /netboot - how do i use wget to download everything in that directory, including folders and their contents?
[19:55] <zykotick9> GustavR: "whoami" in a terminal
[19:56] <KelebekeLite4344> turkish server
[19:56] <preman> assalmuaikum
[19:56] <h00k> LinuxApprentice: You'll want to use a tftp client
[19:56] <auronandace> KelebekeLite4344: no advertising please
[19:56] <KelebekeLite4344> ok man
[19:56] <LinuxApprentice> h00k: i need to put the files in the tftp folder first
[19:56] <h00k> LinuxApprentice: do you have that default file not symlinked now?
[19:56] <geirha> GustavR: it is sounding more like a problem with the OS on your phone. I'd try to find a channel for support on that OS for help.
[19:56] <LinuxApprentice> h00k: how do i unsymlink it
[19:57] <preman> helloo can i know all
[19:57] <sskalnik> kb shortcut to minimize a window?
[19:57] <LinuxApprentice> h00k: i downloaded the netboot archive and when i extracted it into tftp that's how the files where
[19:57] <aeon-ltd> sskalnik: ctrl-m?
[19:57] <codeshah> hey guys, can I use .htaccess to forward specific URLs to other URLs?
[19:58] <ikonia> codeshah: that's not really it's function
[19:58] <codeshah> k, I am wondering what I can use to do that…
[19:58] <h00k> LinuxApprentice: I guess make sure that default file is readable
[19:58] <codeshah> I have a bunch of old URLs that I want to redirect to new ones
[19:58] <codeshah> ~100 of them
[19:58] <whistler_> you can redirect in the actual html
[19:58] <sskalnik> aeon-ltd:  No dice
[19:58] <codeshah> hmm, they are dynamically generated not fixed HTML files
[19:58] <aeon-ltd> sskalnik: what DE/WM?
[19:58] <codeshah> so I have to create the 100 HTML files then
[19:58] <GustavR> zykotick9: Ty
[19:58] <TimR_> sskalnik: There is none by default, I believe, but you can set it under keyboard settings
[19:59] <sskalnik> aeon-ltd:  XFCE
[19:59] <geirha> GustavR: Oh, and you don't have any spaces around the '=', right? That would certainly give that error message.
[19:59] <GustavR> geirha: Ok, i'll do that now. Thank you for the help
[19:59] <GustavR> geirha: Yes, no spaces.
[20:00] <whistler_> guys, i am trying to build a 15 drive raid5 array…. i have a weird issue, when I fully power down and then power up the system, only thirteen of the drives can be seen (through frisk -l) however if i restart (init 6) all 15 are visible.. I am thinking possible udev issue, anyone have any ideas?
[20:00] <GaLataSaRayLi> from turkey
[20:00] <GaLataSaRayLi> from turkey
[20:00] <GaLataSaRayLi> from turkey
[20:00] <GustavR> geirha: When i run this dd command on I phone, do i need to run come command on my computer?
[20:00] <FloodBot1> GaLataSaRayLi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:00] <sskalnik> Ah, alt + f9
[20:00] <kaans> from Turkey
[20:00] <kaans>  :) 
[20:00] <GaLataSaRayLi> güzel botlar kaans
[20:01] <kaans> yes
[20:01] <kaans> very nice
[20:01] <aeon-ltd> !turkey
[20:01] <kaans> bots
[20:01] <GaLataSaRayLi> ooo
[20:01] <GaLataSaRayLi> !turkey
[20:01] <vagvaf> any help with that? http://pastebin.com/ruKsQ2zU
[20:01] <geirha> GustavR: No, the only command you need to run on your computer, is cat, and you run that via ssh
[20:01] <GaLataSaRayLi> !turkey
[20:01] <GaLataSaRayLi> from turkey
[20:01] <Myrtti> !tr
[20:01] <GaLataSaRayLi> he okey Myrtti
[20:01] <GaLataSaRayLi> !tr
[20:02] <GaLataSaRayLi> Myrtti
[20:02] <Myrtti> GaLataSaRayLi: stop it.
[20:02] <kaans> türkler ananýzýmý siktide
[20:02] <ikonia> GaLataSaRayLi: what do you want to know
[20:02] <kaans> dýslýyonuz amýna kodumun bebeleri
[20:02] <LjL> kaans: he's gone
[20:02] <kristoffer> lol
[20:02] <kristoffer> neweer seen this # move so fast ;P
[20:02] <GustavR> geirha: But do i need to open a terminal on my computer and type cat?
[20:03] <pepo087> Enter text here...cc
[20:03] <CharminTheMoose> When I do 'startx' on a debootstrapped 11.04 system, neither a PS/2 or usb based mouse are detected. How can I get this to work?
[20:03] <geirha> GustavR: No, the ssh does that.
[20:03] <whistler_> guys, i am trying to build a 15 drive raid5 array…. i have a weird issue, when I fully power down and then power up the system, only recognizes thirteen of the drives can be seen (through fdisk -l) however if i restart (init 6) all 15 are visible.. I am thinking possible udev issue, anyone have any ideas?
[20:03] <GustavR> Ok
[20:04] <GustavR> geirha: Ok, thank you.
[20:06] <kristoffer> <3* jesus is now known as Guest9555<3
[20:06] <Guest9555> i know xd
[20:06] <doxin> I'm looking for software that'll allow me to synch audio and video. think video dubs. any ideas?
[20:07] <aeon-ltd> doxin: so a multitrack video editor...
[20:07] <urlin2u> doxin, please don't doulble post on sevsral channels
[20:07] <doxin> urlin2u: sorry
[20:07] <urlin2u> double/channels
[20:07] <doxin> aeon-ltd: yes
[20:07] <Guest9555> mm audacity maybe
[20:07] <cynicaloptimist> Can anyone help with monitor resolution? On a dual-boot machine my resolution's fine under windows, but ubuntu is completely unable to recognise the resolutions my monitor could do. It used to be just fine, then suddenly everything's squashed up to 4:3, and there aren't any high-res options in the list of available resolutions.
[20:08] <Guest9555> try to update the drivers cynicaloptimist
[20:08] <cynicaloptimist> So basically, i turn my computer on when i get home from work and... it's all squashed up. And when i go to change it back, the option i need just disapears.
[20:08] <pepo087> Enter text here...ll
[20:09] <user123456987> psp-0854, aeon-ltd, kristoffer,  I've reburned and still nothing. I have an idea though. Does grub have a command for forcing a boot from the CD?
[20:09] <cynicaloptimist> Guest9555: thanks for the suggestion. Could you give me any guidance on how to do that? I've never needed to mess with linux drivers before. Total noob in that dept.
[20:09] <Guest9555> ok wait I search for the source ppa
[20:09] <psp-0854> user:  type uuid and write down the numbers.  one should be hdd on for sr0 and for the rest of the devices on your board
[20:10] <GustavR> geirha: Any tip on where to ask about thhis?
[20:10] <psp-0854> user: did you try the flash drive method?  or verify the download?
[20:11] <aeon-ltd> psp-0854: press tab to autocomplete names, it reduces mistakes and notifies the user when you spell their name
[20:11] <Guest9555> do that: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers
[20:11] <Guest9555> in a terminal
[20:11] <zykotick9> cynicaloptimist: what graphics card?  "lspci | grep -i vga" (in terminal) if you aren't sure.
[20:11] <psp-0854> aeon: exactly
[20:11] <Guest9555> then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:12] <zgr> guys if I will encrypt my /home will it takes 2x space?
[20:12] <aeon-ltd> psp-0854: i hope you noticed the irony there in your last post :)
[20:12] <Guest9555> tell me when you've finished
[20:12] <psp-0854> aeon:  nope
[20:12] <h00k> zgr: no
[20:12] <whistler_> enable third party drivers for your video card
[20:12] <aeon-ltd> psp-0854: type 'aeon' then press tab
[20:12] <cynicaloptimist> Guest9555: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (rev 01)
[20:12] <psp-0854> aeon-ltd,
[20:12] <aeon-ltd> yeah
[20:12] <aeon-ltd> :)
[20:13] <psp-0854> woot!
[20:13] <psp-0854> new to irc
[20:13] <user123456987> psp-0854, aeon-ltd, kristoffer,  OK I solved the problem, my computer's boot menu was buggy. I changed boot hierarchy in computer setup and now it has loaded the LiveCD
[20:13] <ikonia> !guidelines > psp-0854
[20:13] <aeon-ltd> user123456987: congrats
[20:13] <psp-0854> user123456987, grats
[20:13] <Guest9555> ok cynicaloptimist, do what I've said
[20:13] <konaya> Is it normal for an HDD to start throwing buffer I/O errors when warm?
[20:13] <ikonia> psp-0854: it's worth checking the url ubottu hs just pm'd you
[20:13] <ikonia> psp-0854: make sure you understand how to use the channel
[20:13] <kristoffer> user123456987, great! xD
[20:13] <konaya> The drive works perfectly when thoroughly cooled.
[20:14] <psp-0854> ikonia, I see no pm
[20:14] <cynicaloptimist> guest: bear with me...
[20:14] <ikonia> !guidelines | psp-0854
[20:14] <ikonia> psp-0854: there you go
[20:14] <psp-0854> ikonia, ty
[20:15] <zykotick9> konaya: iotop is pretty handy cli application for monitoring disk i/o
[20:15] <Guest9555> it's ok cynicaloptimist ;)
[20:15] <Guest38437> cia a tutti
[20:15] <Guest9555> do that:
[20:15] <Guest38437> ciao a tutti
[20:15] <zykotick9> !it | Guest38437
[20:15] <Guest9555> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers
[20:15] <Caifas> guys rc.local scripts run before or after X?
[20:16] <zykotick9> Caifas: before (i imagine)
[20:16] <Caifas> zykotick9: ok
[20:16] <Giggybyte> Can someone here help me out?
[20:16] <h00k> !ask | Giggybyte
[20:16] <zykotick9> !ask | Giggybyte
[20:17] <Giggybyte> !patience
[20:17] <Wargasm> thanks guys, I'm browsing through different DEs and I'm liking others better than unity... the help is much appreciated
[20:18] <ekaleido> # rc.local
[20:18] <ekaleido> #
[20:18] <ekaleido> # This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel.
[20:18] <Giggybyte> I can't set my resolution to 1366x768 when I hook up laptop to an external display, so now's there's these annoying black bars besides what I can see
[20:18] <whistler_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/grandr
[20:19] <Troof> hey there, how could i add "arrange by type" when right clicking on my desktop. The right click menu only has Arrange by name
[20:19] <LinuxApprentice> how do i use rename to rename a folder
[20:19] <Guest9555> Giggybyte, each monitor has its resolution, depending on your monitor, you hav to choose your resolution
[20:19] <LjL> LinuxApprentice: why not use mv?
[20:19] <zykotick9> LinuxApprentice: "mv folderold/ foldernew/"
[20:19] <whistler_> mv oldname newname
[20:20] <HillBillyRock> Hi. New to Ubuntu and having a problem trying to connect to a wireless router.  Can anybody help please
[20:20] <Guest9555> on a terminal run mv name newname
[20:20] <Guest9555> How are you going cynicaloptimist??
[20:20] <Giggybyte> Guest9555: I coul do this on Windows easily, so I don't see why it can't be done on Ubuntu. It's those black bars that are annoying the crap outta me
[20:21] <cynicaloptimist> Guest9555: i'm still on sudo apt-get upgrade. It's gonna be a few minutes
[20:21] <Guest9555> yes i know what are you refering to
[20:21] <whistler_>  anyone…. i am trying to build a 15 drive raid5 array…. i have a weird issue, when I fully power down and then power up the system, only recognizes thirteen of the drives can be seen (through fdisk -l) however if i restart (init 6) all 15 are visible.. I am thinking possible udev issue, anyone have any ideas? There is already another 15 disk raid-1 array in the box
[20:21] <Troof> hey there, how could i add "arrange by type" when right clicking on my desktop. The right click menu only has Arrange by name
[20:21] <Guest9555> ok so patience cynicaloptimist ;D
[20:21] <urlin2u> HillBillyRock, post the card this will tell you what it is. lspci | grep -i wireless
[20:21] <Guest9555> Have you tried another resolution Giggybite?
[20:22] <ro_70s> instead of just running chrome, I'd like to run a short script first. How can I change an application in the launcher?
[20:22] <HillBillyRock> Thanks. That's in a terminal right?
[20:22] <zykotick9> urlin2u: too bad "wireless" doesn't always work...
[20:22] <schnuffle> whistler_:  could be due to initialization timeouts
[20:22] <pepsi000000087> ll
[20:22] <urlin2u> zykotick9, yeah it would be  nice, does here though.
[20:22] <netnomad> I'm using Ubuntu with Unity... (yeah, I switched back).  Is there an easy way to monitor free drive space on the status bar at the top of the screen?
[20:22] <h00k> whistler_: does the RAID array appear to exist in the RAID controller?
[20:22] <Giggybyte> Guest9555 | Every resolution works except 1366x768 which is what I nedd to get rid of the black bars
[20:22] <zykotick9> urlin2u: ya, works for me too.
[20:22] <pepsi000000087> why says me UPDATING DATABASE
[20:22] <Giggybyte> need*
[20:22] <whistler_> i am using mdadm for the first raid array
[20:23] <pepsi000000087> D:
[20:23] <Guest9555> mmm
[20:23] <whistler_> no raid controllers
[20:23] <Guest9555> wait a sec
[20:23] <Giggybyte> I get a huge error when I try to.
[20:23] <LinuxApprentice> ok i have all the proper files in the tftp directory which i obtained from the mirror but the client stays on 'Trying to load: pxelinux.cfg/<bunch of numbers>' ???
[20:23] <LinuxApprentice> should i chmod the tftp directory?
[20:23] <Guest9555> but, 1366x768 it's a bit extrange
[20:24] <Guest9555> you'll see always the black bars
[20:24] <whistler_> for the second set of disks, the ones not in an array, i haven't even gotten built the array… just trying to understand why they aren't visible to the OS
[20:24] <schnuffle> whistler_: You could try to set a grub menu showing and give some time, lets say 10 seconds and see if afterwards the disks are always reconized
[20:24] <Guest9555> 1064 x 768
[20:24] <Giggybyte> So I won't be able to get the picture to stretch across the screen huh?
[20:24] <jason_> Hi there. Quick question. If I were to use a vga splitter (one cable, pigtail ends, DVI out, two VGA's in) would I be able to effectively get "dual monitors" running on my Nvidia graphics card despite the fact my card would only have 1 port?
[20:24] <LjL> Guest9555: what are you talking about? 1366x768 is the most common resolution on a whole class of laptop
[20:25] <Guest9555> 1366x 768?? i havent this resolution
[20:25] <ro_70s> how can I add/remove/change aplications on the top bar?
[20:25] <aeon-ltd> jason_: i've seen this for mirroring for sure, but sounds like it could
[20:25] <Guest9555> and i have a laptop
[20:25] <ro_70s> I mean like time/date, keyboards, etc .. how can I change which ones show up ?
[20:25] <LjL> Guest9555: so because you don't have it, it's "strange"? it's not, really.
[20:25] <schnuffle> Guest9555: standard for a lot of 13" Laptops
[20:25] <Guest9555> ah
[20:25] <jason_> aeon-ltd: my thought process is to get triple monitors... I have two DVI ports on my card... so I began to wonder 1 DVI to 1 DVI monitor (main) and two VGAs off of a VGA splitter for the side monitors.
[20:26] <Guest9555> so what could be the problem of giggybyte
[20:26] <jason_> aeon-ltd: or would it be better to add an older PCI VGA card to my desktop and use that for a monitor?
[20:26] <Guest9555> this two black bars
[20:26] <zykotick9> jason_: i personally doubt your 1 DVI/VGA port can handle two independent monitors (maybe?)
[20:26] <LjL> Giggybyte: have you tried following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions ?
[20:26] <ro_70s> what is that bar called at the top?
[20:26] <BussDriver> actually 1366x768 is about the only resolution you can get in a laptop anymore.. of any size :\
[20:27] <Guest9555> you've said that in windows it works?
[20:27] <Wargasm> who was the guy asking about sorting desktop items?
[20:27] <ro_70s> what mean bar called top for?
[20:27] <jason_> zykotick9: I have a series of old PCI graphics cards. I wonder if adding one for 1 monitor and running the main + a 2nd monitor off of my Nvidia would do the trick.
[20:27] <jason_> zykotick9: I hate VGA splitters, even on Windows. The best I've used them for is to mirror displays (monitor vs projector, etc)
[20:27] <cynicaloptimist> Guest9555: It works in windows for me. Or were you addressing someone else?
[20:27] <zykotick9> jason_: you might run into problems if you are using proprietary nvidia & ati btw
[20:27] <HillBillyRock> urlin2u: It says - Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[20:27] <ro_70s> what is the bar?
[20:27] <Wargasm> I have a solution for the guy asking about how to sort desktop items by type
[20:28] <Guest9555> to someone else :D
[20:28] <urlin2u> !broadcom > HillBillyRock
[20:28] <ro_70s> what is the bar at top?
[20:28] <jason_> zykotick9: I think they're Nvidia. If not, Intel. I know they're not ATI.
[20:28] <Troof> Wargasm,  thats me wargasm
[20:28] <urlin2u> HillBillyRock, hope that helps.
[20:28] <Giggybyte> Actually 1366x768 is already in options, I just get a huge error when trying to switch to it, I'll take a pic in a second.
[20:28] <Guest9555> that was for giggybyte
[20:28] <ro_70s> what is the bar at top?
[20:28] <Guest9555> ok
[20:28] <jason_> zykotick9: but good thought. I wonder how (and if) I could work with dual graphics cards of different brands.
[20:28] <Wargasm> Troof: did you need an answer?
[20:28] <Troof> Wargasm, yes please!
[20:28] <zykotick9> jason_: you might be ok then - i've just heard of nvidia/ati conflicts with multple cards
[20:28] <ro_70s> what is the bar at top?
[20:28] <owenll> ro_70s: Top Panel
[20:28] <Troof> Wargasm,  i cant organize by type and its driving me nuts
[20:28] <kaetzchen> Hello, i have a problem with my network; i can't use my wireless network ; lshw says the wireless card is DISABLED ; it's a Intel WifiLink 5100 ; the card works in windows and with a liveDVD
[20:28] <schnuffle> ro_70s: the top bar?
[20:28] <ro_70s> thank you
[20:28] <jason_> zykotick9: I suppose the same would be true on windows. That just sounds dirty.
[20:29] <urlin2u> ro_70s, what is your goal here?
[20:29] <Wargasm> Troof: I've been going through different DEs (desktop environments), if you change to lxde you can sort your desktop by type or whatever you really want
[20:29] <zykotick9> jason_: i wouldn't know.  i don't use crappy non-free OSs anymore (coming from an M.C.S.E.)
[20:29] <ro_70s> someone was asking about how to monitor disk usage on that bar. I know there are applications you can set to run there. but to search through them and answer his question, I needed to know what to search for
[20:29] <jason_> zykotick9: I don't either. I was just toying with the thought. :)
[20:29] <ro_70s> Top Panel applications I suppose
[20:29] <sheena1>  i'm having difficulties with my sound on my new 11.10 install on a new laptop. i remember having similar trouble on my previous pc, different version of ubuntu, and fixed it, but have no idea how.. i'm still pretty  novice at this. is anyone able to help?
[20:30] <Troof> Wargasm,  how does one do that exactly?
[20:30] <owenll> ro_70s: gnome or unity?
[20:30] <ro_70s> but actually my goal here is to create a custom application in the untiy bar on the side
[20:30] <urlin2u> ro_70s, I use a conky there, but thanks for explaining.
[20:30] <Wargasm> Troof: just go to your software manager and download lxde, logout and then next to your name you'll see a gear... click on the gear and choose lxde as your DE
[20:30] <ro_70s> 11.10 .. I think it is unity
[20:30] <Wargasm> yeah its unity
[20:30] <Troof> Wargasm, k ill get on that thanks
[20:31] <Wargasm> I love ubuntu, lots of fun
[20:31] <Guest9555> ro_70s, instead you have 11.10, you can have gnome or unity
[20:31] <Wargasm> gnome is similar to unity
[20:31] <Guest9555> yes but not the same
[20:31] <Wargasm> I like lxde for now
[20:31] <h00k> Wargasm: Unity uses Gnome.
[20:31] <h00k> Wargasm: Unity is a shell built on Gnome
[20:32] <Wargasm> that explains that lol
[20:32] <h00k> !unity
[20:32] <ro_70s> well how can you configure the top panel? Im actually not seeing that in system settings
[20:32] <jason_> Wargasm: Think of having a Ford and Chevy. Both are running a 350 cubic inch engine made from the same manufacturer, yet the Ford is clearly still different from the Chevy while having the same core components.
[20:32] <h00k> ro_70s: gnome-panel is forlorn in Gnome3. It doesn't work like it did. They've stopped development on Gnome 2.x
[20:32] <Guest9555> if you have the dockbar and you can't add plugins to the panel with tthe mouse is unity
[20:32] <Wargasm> jason_: I can understand that
[20:33] <ro_70s> yes but Im looking for top panel, not gnome panel
[20:33] <Wargasm> jason_: still very new to ubuntu, I'm liking it so much more than windows
[20:33] <h00k> ro_70s: that top panel that was in previous versions was called gnome-panel
[20:33] <Guest9555> yup
[20:33] <jason_> Wargasm: I haven't looked back to windows ever since I've been on ubuntu (about 6 years now)
[20:33] <h00k> !nounity | ro_70s
[20:33] <urlin2u> ro_70s, I would look for the app needed on google there are a number of here's what you do with your new setup there, you need a ppa probably, the panel is not easily tweaked.
[20:33] <ro_70s> yes but it is called "Top Panel" now .. someone just said and when I search for top panel ubuntu in gooogle, I actually get the right results
[20:34] <jason_> Wargasm: in fact, I've been trying to use windows more, as my side work jobs are taking longer because I have forgotten how to master driver installations, getting rid of viruses, and fixing BSODs since I *never* do it anymore
[20:34] <Wargasm> jason_: theres just so much more you can do... I hit a bump in the road every now and then but solving the issues are very fun
[20:34] <Guest9555> windows is a shit, it has lots of viruses
[20:34] <Giggybyte> Here is the error http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7978/screenshotat20120117152.png
[20:34] <pangolin> !language | Guest9555
[20:35] <urlin2u> Guest9555, how is that related to ubuntu
[20:35] <jason_> Wargasm: every OS is a tool, and you have to use the right tool for the job. I just feel as though Linux (and Ubuntu in particular for me) is the swiss army knife "do it all" tool for me.
[20:35] <ro_70s> Whoiever wanted to view disk usage earlier .. I think you want the System Load indicator applet
[20:36] <Guest9555> sorry
[20:36] <Guest9555> someone said something related to windows
[20:36] <cynicaloptimist> Guest9555: all done, and computer restarted as well. Any further suggestions?
[20:37] <Giggybyte> Guest9555 did ou see the error I posted?
[20:37] <Giggybyte> you*
[20:37] <Guest9555> yup
[20:38] <Guest9555> cynicaloptimist, do you have the roblem now??
[20:38] <cynicaloptimist> yup
[20:38] <Giggybyte> Am I stuck with the resolution I hav, then?
[20:38] <Giggybyte> have*
[20:38] <cynicaloptimist> still only have 4 options when i try to change screen resolution. They're still all bad.
[20:38] <Zephr0> anyone know why no matter how many times i have gone to power management and staid not to put my display to sleep, my display keeps getting put to sleep?
[20:39] <sheena1> Zephr0: i had some trouble with that and discovered it was in the Screensavers settings..
[20:39] <Guest9555> Gigggybyte try to upgrade your drivers, maybe should it works
[20:39] <sheena1>  i'm having difficulties with my sound on my new 11.10 install on a new laptop. i remember having similar trouble on my previous pc, different version of ubuntu, and fixed it, but have no idea how.. i'm still pretty  novice at this. is anyone able to help?
[20:39] <Guest9555> or clean the config files
[20:40] <Giggybyte> I think I already have the latest drivers, I'll ask the forums
[20:41] <Guest9555> cynicaloptimist, what kind of error do you have
[20:41] <cynicaloptimist> Guest: No error messages. When i try to change screen resolutions there's only 4 options. I can change between those four options just fine. But they're all pretty low res.
[20:42] <jason_> cynicaloptimist: what graphics card
[20:42] <cynicaloptimist> I have a widescreen monitor, and they're not giving my wide-screen options.
[20:42] <Guest9555> a VGA i think he said
[20:42] <cynicaloptimist> jason: give me a sec...
[20:42] <Guest9555> he/she*
[20:42] <ro_70s> How can I write a script to start when google chrome starts?
[20:42] <jason_> VGA tells me nothing
[20:42] <cynicaloptimist> Guest9555: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (rev 01)
[20:42] <jason_> cynicaloptimist: were there any proprietary drivers available?
[20:42] <cynicaloptimist> Or is that the monitor configuration? I'm not sure how to tell
[20:42] <aeon-ltd> ro_70s: how about a script that starts chrome and then starts the script you want aswell?
[20:43] <ro_70s> aeon-ltd: sure. I'd reverse the order but yes, thats just fine
[20:43] <cynicaloptimist> Jason: I have no idea. I never learnt much about drivers. I've never had to install any, as far as i know, for linux.
[20:43] <ro_70s> aeon-ltd: :) how do you do that?
[20:43] <yao_ziyuan> does anyone have an all-passing supertuxkart config dir? i want it instead of passing all challenges again
[20:43] <ro_70s> yao_ziyuan:  :D
[20:43] <jason_> cynicaloptimist: I wonder if your graphics card falls under the same category as a toshiba laptop I recently worked on, which I think was an R200 or something like that.
[20:44] <aeon-ltd> ro_70s: no idea
[20:44] <jason_> cynicaloptimist: in the new Linux kernel (3.0 that came with Ubuntu 11.10) ATI stripped older hardware from its support list to streamline it a bit more. Trimming the fat, if you will.
[20:44] <Wargasm> lol supertuxkart, I just started playing that
[20:44] <cynicaloptimist> grrrrr
[20:44] <jason_> cynicaloptimist: I found out on this laptop that I could not install the proprietary drivers because they did not support this graphics card, being an older one taht ATI stripped
[20:44] <ro_70s> aeon-ltd: :( noooo! but you sounded so correct! I thought you had my back there
[20:44] <jason_> cynicaloptimist: I don't know if that falls under that category or not.
[20:44] <MrSunshine> hmm, im experiencing VERY poor graphics performance in ubuntu ... using fglrx driver on a radeon hd 3200 ... anyone got any ideas? :/
[20:44] <jason_> cynicaloptimist: I'm just sharing my experience in case it gives you a better lead.
[20:44] <MrSunshine> glxinfo says im using the ati version
[20:45] <jason_> cynicaloptimist: is this a laptop or desktop?
[20:45] <aeon-ltd> ro_70s: something like "sh script.sh & (next line) /usr/bin/chrome(or whatever it's name is) &"
[20:45] <ro_70s> aeon-ltd: I know how to write the script thank you :) But how do I add it to the applications launcher?
[20:45] <mosdef100200> hi there
[20:46] <ozxto> Oh wow, lots of people...
[20:46] <ratcheer> MrSunshine: Are you running compiz?
[20:46] <cynicaloptimist> jason_: possibly. I don't know why it would just suddenly stop working overnight though. I didn't do any upgrades that I know about.
[20:46] <mosdef100200> im trying to cahnage some file perms under localhost but it wont seem to let me with chmod 755 anyone have anymore ideas?
[20:46] <aeon-ltd> ro_70s: that would depend on what the app launcher is but don't forget to chmod the script first
[20:46] <ro_70s> mosdef100200: what is the error?
[20:46] <jason_> cynicaloptimist: oh, THATS weird. I wasnt aware this was an existing install that went haywire
[20:46] <ro_70s> aeon-ltd: :) that's good. I won't for get it
[20:47] <ro_70s> aeon-ltd: The app launcher is the defacto one for 11.10 -- untiy launcher
[20:47] <ro_70s> **unity
[20:47] <MrSunshine> ratcheer, dont know :P
[20:47] <ozxto> Does anyone have working knowledge of gdisk and hybrid MBR creation?
[20:47] <mosdef100200> err well the file is locked which is a configure.php file i need for a site to work and the error is that it says that nobody owns it
[20:47] <cynicaloptimist> jason_: yeah. Just turned it on today and... everything was stretched sideways. I'd gone back to a 4:3 aspect ratio.
[20:47] <mosdef100200> i have changed the perms in root
[20:47] <MrSunshine> how do i know that? .. using gnome atleast =)
[20:47] <mosdef100200> and it wont budge?
[20:47] <jason_> cynicaloptimist: and you're not set to auto update, etc?
[20:47] <ratcheer> MrSunshine: Well, are you running Unity? It uses compiz.
[20:48] <MrSunshine> ratcheer, no, gnome3
[20:48] <MrSunshine> or whatever its called
[20:48] <MrSunshine> the new gnome :P
[20:48] <ro_70s> mosdef100200: please do ls -la <file> and post the result for me?
[20:48] <MrSunshine> unity was to broken in to many wys
[20:48] <cynicaloptimist> jason_: I honestly can't remember. Probably am actually.
[20:48] <mosdef100200> wow
[20:48] <mosdef100200> whats that sorry to be dumb?
[20:48] <kristoffer> is it possible to install gnome3 on 10.04.3? is it recomanded?
[20:48] <ro_70s> mosdef100200: that is the ls command. it lists files
[20:48] <mosdef100200> oh right ok
[20:48] <aeon-ltd> ro_70s: heh quick google here http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/05/unity-2d-tipshow-to-add-apps-to-the-launcher-and-how-to-arrange-them/
[20:49] <ratcheer> MrSunshine: Try running "ps -ef|grep compiz" and let me know if it finds a process running.
[20:49] <ro_70s> aeon-ltd: yes that is how to add apps. But this isnt a system app, it is a custom script :(
[20:50] <Guest9555> cynicaloptimist have you tried to search on "Additional Drivers" (or something like that)
[20:50] <ro_70s> mosdef100200: ?
[20:50] <mosdef100200> yes sorry mate
[20:50] <mosdef100200> im trying to find the filename
[20:50] <mosdef100200> its veryyy long
[20:51] <econdudeawesome> thowdy all.
[20:51] <aeon-ltd> ro_70s: too hasty i assume, this may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1700605
[20:51] <ro_70s> mosdef100200: :D you are trying to edit a file and you dont know the file name ? good luck
[20:51] <econdudeawesome> What do you find to be the best HTML editor for Ubuntu?
[20:51] <yao_ziyuan> found an easy way: gedit .config/supertuxkart/challenges.xml and replace all false with true :-)
[20:51] <MrSunshine> ratcheer, mrsun    12357 12228  0 21:50 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto compiz does not look at it as thats the grep command :P
[20:51] <mosdef100200> well i have to find the complete path
[20:51] <ro_70s> aeon-ltd: did you read that?
[20:51] <aeon-ltd> ro_70s: yes
[20:51] <aeon-ltd> ro_70s: the 4th post is the important one
[20:51] <ro_70s> aeon-ltd: that appears to only work wiht pre-installed applications also .THe guy is told to add his script to the system liuke he has root access.
[20:52] <ratcheer> MrSunshine: Ok, then my idea does not apply to your problem.
[20:52] <ro_70s> aeon-ltd: which would be fine but this is not my computer, I dont have root access
[20:52]  * aeon-ltd hangs head in shame
[20:52] <jutnux> ro_70s: Then you cannot do much.
[20:52] <ro_70s> aeon-ltd: thank you so much :) You retraced all my steps before coming here :) its a lot of work so I know how much I appreciate it
[20:53] <mosdef100200> Ok -rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 4605 2012-01-17 19:56 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/CMS/zen/zenadmin/includes/configure.php
[20:53] <sheena1>  i'm having difficulties with my sound on my new 11.10 install on a new laptop. i remember having similar trouble on my previous pc, different version of ubuntu, and fixed it, but have no idea how.. i'm still pretty  novice at this. is anyone able to help?
[20:53] <mosdef100200> any ideas?
[20:53] <kaetzchen> Hello, i have a problem with my network; i can't use my wireless network ; lshw says the wireless card is DISABLED ; it's a Intel WifiLink 5100 ; the card works in windows and with a liveDVD
[20:53] <jutnux> mosdef100200: Is this just for your localhost which will be used by you and you only?
[20:53] <mosdef100200> yep
[20:54] <ro_70s> mosdef100200: ok.. do you want it to be owned that way? I would change it like: sudo chown <my account name> <file name> .. then do the chmod
[20:54] <jutnux> mosdef100200: sudo chown -R yourusername /var/www/
[20:54] <zykotick9> !lamp > mosdef100200
[20:54] <ro_70s> what he said :)
[20:54] <rumpe1> kaetzchen, try "sudo rfkill unblock all"
[20:54] <Guest9555> kätzchen have you tried to fixd with the "Aircrack fix"???
[20:55] <kaetzchen> i haven't tried any "fixes"; rumpe1 : i already did this, rfkill says the card is enabled
[20:55] <mosdef100200> so sudo chown -R yourusername /var/www/ > what is var/www?
[20:56] <Guest9555> i have a post where i explain a possible solution
[20:56] <rumpe1> kaetzchen, hmm... then maybe sudo ifconfig <devicename like wlan0> up
[20:56] <Guest9555> it worked for me with a wireless card
[20:56] <kaetzchen> i also tried my hardware switch, it's enabled, i can only switch it so disabled, which is then shown in rfkill; i can bring the interface up with "ifconfig wlan0 up", but i can't do a scan and i can't connect
[20:57] <beta0x64> mosdef100200, that is the typical directory of your webserver. you put your files you want to show on port 80 in that directory
[20:57] <zykotick9> jutnux: FYI i believe chown would require at least "chown username: /foo" or "chown user:user /foo" in order to work
[20:57] <mosdef100200> wooo thats a little over my head?
[20:57] <kaetzchen> Guest9555 : the card worked for weeks without the fix and the 10.10 livedvd also works out of the box
[20:57] <mosdef100200> its a localhost?
[20:57] <jutnux> zykotick9: No, chown username is fine.
[20:58] <Guest9555> mmm is similar to what happened to my wireless card
[20:58] <Dr4g> I have interactive logon disabled on my server, and wish to turn it back on as i can't log in to the box using SSH from my other machines.
[20:58] <rumpe1> kaetzchen, hm... strange. Maybe try wireless backports.
[20:58] <zykotick9> jutnux: sorry, you're right.  my mistake.
[20:59] <Dr4g> Can someone help me? I've edited /etc/ssh/sshd_config and set "UseLogin yes" and rebooted sshd however no affect.
[20:59] <Dr4g> Is there something i'm missing ?
[20:59] <Guest9555> kaetzchen, i write my blog, i explain a possible solution to your problem on it
[20:59] <zykotick9> jutnux: i must have been thinking of group, chown :group /foo
[20:59] <jutnux> zykotick9: Indeed :-)
[20:59] <rumpe1> Dr4g, what kind of affect do you expect?
[21:00] <mosdef100200> WOW! that worked thanks ever so much!!!! for all the help!
[21:00] <Dr4g> rumpe1: i want to login to my machine using SSH, and specifying the credentials..
[21:00] <Dr4g> Atm its wanting a SSH pubkey and not letting me in if i don't have one.
[21:00] <kaetzchen> Guest9555 do you have a link for me then?
[21:01] <Guest9555> try to do the following kaetzchen, i don't write here cause is too long
[21:01] <Guest9555> http://ubuntueng.blogspot.com/2011/12/aircrack-ng-fixed-channel-mon0-1.html
[21:01] <kaetzchen> thank you
[21:01] <Guest9555> I hope it will work
[21:01] <zykotick9> mosdef100200: side note - in the long run you'd be better off learning how to use the real apache packages(s) from Ubuntu, then using the 3rd party lamp program (just my opinion)
[21:01] <rumpe1> Dr4g, then just create a pubkey with ssh-keygen?
[21:01] <jutnux> zykotick9: And then move onto nginx.
[21:02] <mosdef100200> oh no i wouldnt give lammp for the world
[21:02] <mosdef100200> it does what i want
[21:02] <mosdef100200> but i could if i had time i guess
[21:02] <jutnux> mosdef100200: Stick with what is good for you if you're only using it locally.
[21:02] <mosdef100200> are there many alternatives?
[21:02] <mosdef100200> yeah
[21:02] <Dr4g> rumpe1: no I want to disable the setting so i dont need ssh keys to login.
[21:03] <Dr4g> can you help ?
[21:03] <rumpe1> Dr4g, put the sshd_config of the server into a pastebin
[21:03] <Dr4g> rumpe1: ok
[21:04] <rumpe1> Dr4g, maybe PasswordAuthentication is deactivated (?)
[21:05] <rumpe1> Dr4g, if you think the config is messed up somehow, you could also try purging and reinstalling the openssh-server package.
[21:05] <Dr4g> rumpe1: i'll look for: PasswordAuthentication
[21:05] <Dr4g> I have to enable this ?
[21:06] <mosdef100200> works a treat thanks for all the help ;)
[21:06] <rumpe1> Dr4g, not necessarily ... it's allowed per default.
[21:07] <Dr4g> rumpe1: ok. i'll looking
[21:07] <Dr4g> i'm
[21:08] <HillBillyRock1> I used to use a prog called WinAmp with Windows with a plugin called Pacemaker which allowed me to change tempo and pitch. Does anybody know if there is something similar available for Ubuntu
[21:08] <auronandace> HillBillyRock1: audacious is similar to winamp
[21:08] <zykotick9> HillBillyRock1: for a winamp (old version) clone check out audacious (not sure about the temp/pitch part)
[21:09] <HillBillyRock1> Thanks everyone. Will try
[21:10] <Dr4g> rumpe1: https://gist.github.com/1628882
[21:10] <Dr4g> there it is.
[21:10] <Dr4g> PasswordAuthentication no
[21:10] <Dr4g> could this be the issue
[21:10] <Dr4g> ?
[21:12] <Layke> I right clicked on something on a web page through Chrome, and the context menu popped up, then when I clicked off, the content on the website behind it, is just "glued" to my screen.
[21:12] <luigi_> server/irc.OceanIRC.net
[21:12] <rumpe1> Dr4g, of course
[21:12] <Layke> I've killed all my Chrome instances. Is there anything else I can do to get rid of it.
[21:13] <Layke> It stays on top of everything.
[21:13] <h00k> luigi_: please don't spam here
[21:13] <luigi_> link
[21:14] <Layke> ie this: http://www.chrisacky.com/images/bug.jpeg
[21:15] <pippo> ciao
[21:15] <Wargasm> lol, I don't want it to be glued on my desktop
[21:15] <h00k> Layke: you can try to minimize other things and run 'xkill' and click on those artifacts to see if that helps
[21:15] <h00k> Layke: xkill will end the process you click on after running it
[21:16] <Layke> O really cool. I've never used that.
[21:16] <Layke> Thanks for the tip.
[21:16] <Zeki> Wargasm, im using the envinronment you suggested to trooth, were you able to add mozilla on your panel?
[21:16] <Zeki> Wargasm, its a bit funky. does not want to drag n drop anything
[21:16] <Wargasm> didn't want to
[21:16] <Layke> Okay thanks That worked :)
[21:16] <Wargasm> you have to go through it in the start menu and then right click and add to desktop
[21:16] <Dr4g> rumpe1: got it working
[21:17] <rumpe1> Dr4g, nice :)
[21:17] <Wargasm> Zeki: besides that idk yet
[21:17] <Wargasm> Zeki: I wanted to get away from Firefox, IE, Chome, so epiphany works great for me
[21:18] <Wargasm> *chrome
[21:18] <Zeki> Wargasm, k. so far the problems i see are: cant add what id like to pannels, cant drag and drop
[21:18] <Zeki> Wargasm,  otherwise it looks nice, i like some of the features
[21:18] <Wargasm> Zeki: yeah same issues, its fast too
[21:19] <bmusson__> what happens if i raid a SSD and HDD together?
[21:20] <iceroot> bmusson__: performance like the hdd
[21:20] <iceroot> bmusson__: so its a waste of a ssd
[21:21] <visual1ce> hi
[21:22] <Wargasm> hi
[21:23] <visual1ce_> hi
[21:24] <bmusson__> hi
[21:25] <visual1ce_> i have a 3tb usb drive - i made two partitions 2.6tb (ext4) and 100gb - i tried to make an encrypted partition but for some reason i couldnt work with it - i could access files and move and copy files to and from it using console but nautilus could not see anything in the partition and would not let me write to it - i was the owner of mount directory too...
[21:27] <visual1ce_> in any case i tried deleting the partition but i think theres some luks cryptsetup or dmcrypt stuff around somewhere because i've tried formatting the drive and just setting up as a standard partition using gparted but i can't get it to work
[21:28] <visual1ce_> the last thing i did was a dd so i guess there is no more luks header
[21:32] <Rango> I have a VZW Pantech UML290 4G aircard that worked fine under 10.10, not with 11.10, it won't do anything. anyone know a fix or workaround?
[21:33] <dyd> someone can tell me what's wrong in this? http://pastebin.com/JXbJxekn
[21:33] <dyd> ops sorry, wrong channel
[21:33] <Kartagis> the directory I made inside the FTP root can't be seen. why?
[21:38] <widewake> hello, i have adesktop item with the Lock Emblem, i cant move it to trash, how could i unlock it?
[21:39] <Kartagis> widewake: right click and go to properties
[21:39] <GLaDOSv2> hi, is it normal for gparted to take 4+ hours to repartition on a 700GB hdd?
[21:39] <widewake> Kartagis, right
[21:41] <widewake> Kartagis, cant do anything. the lock is locked on it. its a minecraft folder. cant delete it off my desktop,
[21:42] <BlouBlou> GLaDOSv2: it depends of your system, but, yes
[21:42] <ubluntu> why does it say no service when I do sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop
[21:44] <cwolf233> i'm running pinguyos based on ubuntu and mint. how do i trash the software download app and install the one in oneiric?
[21:45] <GLaDOSv2> BlouBlou: thanks :)
[21:46] <Myrtti> cwolf233: ask pinguyos guys?
[21:47] <josh> hello
[21:47] <BlouBlou> GLaDOSv2: no problem. I did it few years ago, and it worked for about 8 hours (it wasn't a good pc, and about 80gb hdd)
[21:47] <josh> anyone help with a ubuntu dns question
[21:48] <Wargasm> post it, see what happens lol
[21:48] <josh> how?
[21:49] <jutnux> !ask | josh
[21:51] <josh> i can't seem to get my ubuntu server to resolve to a domain? i can open the ip address and ping it locally, but the dig command from prompt returns as SERV FAIL.
[21:53] <aanti> how can i get a list of all ppa's i use ?
[21:54] <aanti> why are they not in sources list ?
[21:55] <Kartagis> aanti: go to update manager
[21:55] <zykotick9> aanti: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[21:55] <GustavR> geirha: I'm doing it now.
[21:55] <aanti> zykotick9: thanks
[21:56] <rumpe1> aanti, grep -R "^deb" /etc/apt/ 2>/dev/null | awk '{print $2}' | uniq
[21:56] <fruitbag> Hey all.
[21:57] <fruitbag> Guys, to what extent do you agree with Richard Stallman's views?
[21:57] <jutnux> !offtopic | fruitbag
[21:57] <DREDNOFEAR> Anyone familar with Ubuntu server DNS?
[21:59] <guntbert> DREDNOFEAR: its generally not a good idea to change your nick while trying to get support / getting support - and to be honest: I don't understand your question
[22:00] <msepsis> is there a recommended method for activating and enabling atheros wifi under ubuntuStudio 10.04 LTS?
[22:00] <msepsis> I notice when i right click the networking applet in ubuntu studio 10.04 i don't even get the option to enable wireless
[22:01] <guntbert> msepsis: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs ?
[22:01] <DREDNOFEAR> i need help trouble shooting DNS/BIND for ubuntu server 11
[22:02] <guntbert> !details | DREDNOFEAR
[22:02] <p1l0t> When I try to sudo cp -r /var/www /network/backup/Server from the command line it freezes and I have to close the tab.. Its not a permissions issue I can create/delete anything I want to do in the back up hardrive. Not sure where the error log for that would be. Also crontab isn't working for the same command. Is there a crontab error log?
[22:03] <guntbert> p1l0t: I guess you have network problems... ( if that is a remote mount)
[22:04] <Chees_BHW> hey guys - anyone here understands MySQL ?
[22:04] <guntbert> !ot | Chees_BHW
[22:04] <Chees_BHW> oops wrong chanel :)
[22:04] <p1l0t> guntbert: Yes but I can access change create delete files on their through the command line otherwise.
[22:05] <DREDNOFEAR> when i run dig example.com from the command window, the query status returns SERVFAIL
[22:05] <guntbert> p1l0t: if you use rsync instead of cp you should be able to see a progress indicator ( if I remember correctly )
[22:06] <p1l0t> guntbert: Actually I tried it without the -r and I did get a permission error
[22:06] <guntbert> DREDNOFEAR: where is the name server  you ask?
[22:06] <DREDNOFEAR> ns1.bosnet.com
[22:06] <p1l0t> guntbert: That's just because I didn't type sudo, after sudo it works OK but -r still hangs up
[22:07] <guntbert> DREDNOFEAR: are you talking about configuring your own name server?
[22:07] <DREDNOFEAR> yes
[22:07] <guntbert> p1l0t: try with rsync
[22:07] <p1l0t> guntbert: OK I'm not familiar with rsync but I'll google it
[22:08] <guntbert> DREDNOFEAR: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/dns.html ?
[22:09] <DREDNOFEAR> read it and set it up accordlingly. named-checkzone returns no errors
[22:09] <guntbert> p1l0t: its a tool for getting directories "in sync"
[22:09] <p1l0t> guntbert: thanks
[22:09] <guntbert> !who | DREDNOFEAR
[22:09] <guntbert> p1l0t: no problem :) - Good luck :-)
[22:10] <guntbert> DREDNOFEAR: you might get better answers in #ubuntu-server anyway
[22:10] <DREDNOFEAR> guntbert ok
[22:11] <cowfish> can anybody help me out with tunneling traffic to a vpn?
[22:18] <Jay_Levitt> If I've changed a package's settings via debconf-set-selections, what is the scriptable way to get those settings to take effect as if I'd done dpkg-reconfigure?
[22:19] <DjMadness> Hi, i am using ubuntu 10.10 on my XEN VPS (i do not have access to the host server) is there any recomended method or upgrading to 11.10 ? (a standard issue upgrade would not give a kernel that works)
[22:23] <nRy> hello! Is there a way to setup software RAID on Ubuntu Server 10.4 LTS after the system has already been installed?
[22:23] <nRy> I have Ubuntu installed to one of the drives, but I have 3 more identical drives
[22:23] <kapheimk> I am trying to run a BioPerl script in the terminal. I downloaded Bioperl with the synaptic package software.  I used 'apt-file search bioperl' in the terminal to verify that it was installed.  However, I am not able to fun the script.  When trying to run the script, my first to lines are '#!/usr/bin/env perl', then 'use strict;' this produces a 'command not recognized error' which makes me think it is not finding bioperl.  Does anyone have ad
[22:23] <kapheimk> vice on how to run bioperl in Ubuntu?  thank you!
[22:26] <JohnTeddy> My cell phone is named weird in /media, I can't even cd into it.. I have to use mautilus..
[22:26] <JohnTeddy> How can I rename the device, so /media/xyz is different?
[22:27] <auronandace> JohnTeddy: can't you tabcomplete the device name?
[22:30] <Asar> Hola, the disk analyzer is showing extremely high usage e should not. can a person help?
[22:30] <JohnTeddy> auronandace: no, because cdrom exists
[22:30] <JohnTeddy> unless I umount that
[22:30] <JohnTeddy> drwxr-xr-x 22 root root  4096 2011-12-13 14:07 ..
[22:30] <JohnTeddy> drwx------ 56 john john 32768 1969-12-31 18:00 ߫
[22:30] <JohnTeddy> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 2011-04-21 21:26 cdrom
[22:31] <JohnTeddy> Whatever that " ߫" character is.
[22:32] <wNz> JohnTeddy: stuff is /media is moutned by gnome. i bleieve there is a setting that you may be able to adjust. however, i believe the *name* is set by the device itself. nothing to do with the OS.
[22:32] <wNz> what exactly is it named?
[22:32] <wNz> # ls -l /media
[22:32] <ubluntu> JohnTeddy: do mount in a terminal find out how its mounted then remount it using /etc/fstab
[22:34] <JohnTeddy> Instead of statically setting it in /etc/fstab ... how can I change it.. so when I plug in my android phone into any ubuntu laptop.. it won't mount as this weird name.
[22:34] <ubluntu> idk dude.
[22:34] <shovell> #tremulous
[22:35] <wNz> JohnTeddy: you could try changing the label on the file-system... however i'm not sure what kind of repercussions that would have on the device itself.
[22:36] <wNz> JohnTeddy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[22:36] <wNz> "Labeled devices that are automatically mounted will be mounted in the /media directory using their label as the mount point, /media/<label>. "
[22:36] <wNz> JohnTeddy: ^
[22:36] <wNz> For FAT16 and FAT32 partitions, use mtools.
[22:36] <wNz> For NTFS partitions, use ntfsprogs.
[22:36] <Danib> Pulse doesn't show any devices, just "Dummy Output" on lubuntu, alsa works great, though
[22:37] <Danib> how to enable my sound card there?
[22:37] <JohnTeddy> Thi sis vfat
[22:37] <wNz> JohnTeddy: runt his:
[22:37] <wNz> # sudo mlabel -i <device> -s ::
[22:37] <ubluntu> vfat is fat32
[22:37] <ubluntu> Danib: does it show up in alsamixer ?
[22:37] <Danib> ubluntu, yes
[22:38] <ubluntu> Danib: have you done an sudo alsa force-reload
[22:38] <Danib> ubluntu, done, FATAL: Error inserting snd_seq_midi (/lib/modules/3.0.0-14-server/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq-midi.ko): Invalid argument
[22:39] <ubluntu> Danib: O.o thats not good
[22:39] <Danib> ubluntu, nope
[22:39] <Danib> ubluntu, I can play sound through ALSA, though
[22:39] <ubluntu> does that .ko file exist ?
[22:39] <Danib> ubluntu, the problem is just.. virtualbox
[22:39] <Danib> ubluntu, yes, it does
[22:39] <ubluntu> oh nm I don't trouble shoot virtualbox sorry
[22:40] <Danib> ubluntu, nope, that's not required
[22:40] <Danib> ubluntu, I just want to get pulse to work
[22:40] <Cane> hello. I have Ubuntu 10.04 burned to disc, but I want the latest stable version of Ubuntu (11.10) would I be able to install from my disc, then upgrade the version? or should I just burn a new copy of the latest release?
[22:40] <Danib> ubluntu, cat /proc/asound/cards shows my sound card
[22:40] <ubluntu> Danib: sry don't know anything about using ubuntu in virtualbox really
[22:41] <Danib> ubluntu, I'm not using it in a virtualbox?
[22:41] <ubluntu> Danib> ubluntu, the problem is just.. virtualbox
[22:41] <Danib> ubluntu, I'm using windows in a virtual box on ubuntu and it even shows the sound in pulse
[22:42] <Danib> it shows the application and it displays the dB
[22:42] <Danib> but the output.. there's just Dummy Output
[22:42] <JohnTeddy> Actually Ubuntu's disk label seems to fix the problem good.
[22:42] <Danib> ubluntu, ^
[22:42] <JohnTeddy> I just umount it, then the GUI disk utility tool let's me fix it.
[22:42] <ubluntu> Danib: idk pulse audio sucks
[22:43] <ubluntu> I always remove it
[22:43] <Danib> ubluntu, well, I need to use it
[22:43] <ubluntu> you can try to reboot it. pulseaudio -k
[22:44] <Danib> ubluntu, still just dummy output
[22:44] <ubluntu> try uninstalling it and reinstalling it.
[22:44] <Cane> hello. I have Ubuntu 10.04 burned to disc, but I want the latest stable version of Ubuntu (11.10) would I be able to install from my disc, then upgrade the version? or should I burn a new copy of the latest release?
[22:44] <ubluntu> Cane: you can upgrade
[22:45] <Danib> ubluntu, I already tried that
[22:45] <TameableExpert> You can install then upgrade.
[22:45] <Cane> okay, thank you ubluntu
[22:45] <ubluntu> Danib: well man idk what to tell you if it shows up in alsamixer but not pulse.
[22:45] <ubluntu> any errors in dmesg or anything
[22:45] <Danib> ubluntu, it must be a pulse config error
[22:45] <glebihan> Cane, you would have to upgrade 3 times, better to just download the 11.10 disc
[22:46] <Danib> but I never used pulse, soo
[22:46] <TameableExpert> he left.
[22:46] <TameableExpert> So, anyone know a way to downgrade from gnome 3 to gnome 2?
[22:46] <ubluntu> good point I thought he said 11.04 lol
[22:46] <ubluntu> there is no way really since gnome 2 isn't maintained anymore
[22:46] <glebihan> TameableExpert, there isn't one
[22:46] <iceroot> TameableExpert: not possible
[22:47] <ubluntu> use xfce
[22:47] <iceroot> TameableExpert: also there is no gnome2 anymore
[22:47] <TameableExpert> Ah.
[22:47] <iceroot> !nounity | TameableExpert
[22:47] <Danib> TameableExpert, use lxde :P
[22:47] <ubluntu> unity has seperated the community, not united it lol
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> iceroot  you can use MATE
[22:47] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: mate is not providing sec-updates
[22:47] <TameableExpert> lxde isn't my cup of tea.
[22:47] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: so mate is a bad idea
[22:48] <TameableExpert> gnome 2 was alot more cooperative with me.
[22:48] <ZooMonkey> hihi!!!! I am setting up a POS for a company, and using Lucid as my main install, however, the software needed wants certain packages from Maverick. I found how to add the Maverick repo manually, but, how does one manually "choose" or "pull" / update a certain package from Out Of the Maverick repo? Like, is there a way to specify the repo, and pack name all in one command?
[22:48] <ubluntu> ZooMonkey: you don't use packages for maverick in lucid....
[22:48] <iceroot> ZooMonkey: dont!!! put the mav repo in 10.04
[22:48] <iceroot> !backports | ZooMonkey
[22:49] <ZooMonkey> ubluntu: I know its not common practice guys, but, it is needed.
[22:49] <Nfisher> Hi all i wanted to chat via terminal with a friend of mine over the internet.. hes behind a router to which he has no access to.. how can we manage to get to chat?!
[22:49] <ubluntu> it will break your system 100% money back guarantee
[22:49] <ZooMonkey> for PCI compliance it is needed.
[22:49] <iceroot> ZooMonkey: if you use the mav-repo use pinning but that method is not supported here
[22:49] <iceroot> !pin | ZooMonkey
[22:49] <Frantic_> Hey i need to find a Mac support IRC, does such a thing exist? f*cking mac's
[22:49] <ZooMonkey> it's a brand new install. It wont hurt the hardware will it?
[22:49] <iceroot> !alis | Frantic_
[22:49] <ubluntu> almost no software will hurt hardware
[22:49] <ZooMonkey> OK.
[22:49] <ubluntu> except like video card voltage changing software
[22:50] <ubluntu> mostly stuff on winblows
[22:50] <TameableExpert> Frantic: I agree on the last part, try to google the mac OS version and IRC
[22:50] <ZooMonkey> iceroot: I'll take a good look into that! Sounds like just what I'm looking for, thx. :)
[22:51] <iceroot> ZooMonkey: if possible use backports intead of the mav-repo with pinning
[22:51] <iceroot> ZooMonkey: the second method will normally break your system some day
[22:53] <Jay_Levitt> except nothing's really in backports, so you need to learn to build your own backports
[22:53] <ozxto> Hello there
[22:53] <ZooMonkey> iceroot: The packages that are "newer" that I need from 10.10 include libwxgtk , libssl, and others. I know it's not good at all.
[22:53] <ZooMonkey> iceroot: the hillarious part is, if their installer had been made right *in the first place* this wouldnt be happening. They should have compiled on a 10.04 box.
[22:54] <Frantic_> iceroot: Thanks eh
[22:54] <iceroot> ZooMonkey: also please remeber 10.10 will hit EOL on 04.2012 so your packages from that repo dont get sec updates
[22:54] <atruno> i have an issue where ubuntu on a new installation did not detect any soundcard when i have a internal soundcard with no damage to it and oddly this is the first time its never been recognized.
[22:54] <atruno> i'm using oneiriic
[22:54] <ZooMonkey> iceroot: Yeah I know it's a pisser. That's why I wanted to get it working on 10.04 for LongTermService !!!! But does "Pinning" void that anyway?
[22:54] <html> !sound
[22:55] <ozxto> Is anyone here familiar with gdisk and hybrid MBRs?
[22:55] <atruno> i have checked the internal gnome mixer settings and it sees nothing.  i most definitely have a working internal sound card.
[22:55] <iceroot> ZooMonkey: not directly
[22:55] <acerimmer> ozxto: I've got a gpt/mbr for my tirple boot of osx/win7/ubuntu
[22:55] <iceroot> ZooMonkey: pinning is just a "stopper"
[22:55] <ubluntu> atruno: alsamixer in terminal
[22:55] <html> atruno,  did that work?
[22:55] <atruno> thank you
[22:55] <iceroot> ZooMonkey: but all packages you install from 10.10 are not supported for long time
[22:55] <ozxto> acerimmer: You running it through rEFIt?
[22:56] <Nfisher> Hi all i wanted to chat via terminal with a friend of mine over the internet.. hes behind a router to which he has no access to.. how can we manage to get to chat?!
[22:56] <iceroot> ZooMonkey: and libssl is an important package which needs sec-updates
[22:56] <Frantic_> iceroot: i left this IRC and forgot the request code you just gave me, could you please show it to me again
[22:56] <html> atruno,  who are you talking about
[22:56] <iceroot> !alis | Frantic_
[22:56] <ozxto> acerimmer:  That's exactly the setup I'm attempting to run right now, but my Ubuntu installation messed up my MBR partition table
[22:56] <ZooMonkey> iceroot: A very strong point indeed. I should not be sacrificing libssl support for some doo doo heads that don't know how to compile.
[22:56] <ZooMonkey> :(
[22:56] <iceroot> ZooMonkey: :)
[22:57] <acerimmer> ozxto: as expectedd.  I installed on a Dell 1545.
[22:57] <ZooMonkey> well, perhaps I ask them for their magic "diff" file and I will get my hands dirty myself since they can't seem to.
[22:57] <acerimmer> I've got a tutorial if you want - NO refit as refit is for mac only...
[22:57] <ozxto> acerimmer:  Ah, you're running a hackintosh then.  I'm on Apple hardware
[22:57] <atruno> ubluntu, i'm afraid my alsamixer only sees a hdmi sound card.  i do not have hdmi speaker set.  switching soundcards lists no detecting of any others.
[22:57] <iceroot> Roots: pleae stop the nickchanges and dont use irc as root
[22:57] <acerimmer> ozxto: right, right.  so you've ran gptsync?
[22:58] <ubluntu> atruno: what kind of card you got ?
[22:58] <ozxto> acerimmer:  Tried to run gptsync through rEFIt, but it gave me "analysis inconclusive"
[22:58] <atruno> ubluntu, i think its a realtek
[22:58] <ubluntu> atruno: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec
[22:58] <ozxto> acerimmer:  I've been attempting to recreate a hybrid MBR using gdisk, but I'm at an impasse right now
[22:59] <html> atruno,  did you look at the link i sent you
[22:59] <acerimmer> ozxto: so far as I understand, gptsynch should run b4 you install refit.
[22:59] <atruno> ubluntu, your an angel.  its a ALC887-VD
[23:00] <acerimmer> ozxto: I'd say run it from command line in ubuntu or osx.
[23:00] <iceroot> ubluntu: no need to use cat foo | grep bar, you can use grep bar foo directly
[23:00] <ubluntu> atruno: really? thats exactly what I have.........
[23:00] <atruno> ubluntu, its not awful
[23:00] <Roots> my bad iceroot   it wouldnt let me pick the name i wanted
[23:00] <ozxto> acerimmer:  I installed rEFIt before I did any partitioning or installation.  I've been able to boot into OSX, which is how I'm talking to you now.  I've installed an am running gdisk.
[23:00] <ubluntu> iceroot: the difference is I get ONLY the info I wanted. and he could paste here
[23:00] <atruno> ubluntu, do you know how to perhaps get it working ?
[23:01] <ubluntu> no its a very good intel hd audio card
[23:01] <ZooMonkey> iceroot: Thanks for the help. I'm not sure what we will do. What a rock and a hard place! Maybe we will get a refund if it takes it.
[23:01] <ubluntu> I use it 24/7.
[23:01] <atruno> great :)
[23:01] <ubluntu> can you in pastebin do aplay -L ?
[23:01] <iceroot> ZooMonkey: you are welcome
[23:01] <ozxto> acerimmer:  This is where I am right now:  "Type from one to three GPT partition numbers, separated by spaces, to be added to the hybrid MBR, in sequence: 2 3 4"
[23:01] <ZooMonkey> /quit
[23:01] <acerimmer> ozxto: refit first?  why?
[23:02] <ozxto> acerimmer:  "Place EFI GPT (0xEE) partition first in MBR (good for GRUB)? (Y/N): Y"
[23:02] <ozxto> acerimmer:  The guide I had been following had me do that first.  I didn't think it made a big difference.
[23:03] <atruno> ubluntu, here it is  http://paste.ubuntu.com/807970/
[23:03] <ozxto> acerimmer:  Here's where I'm stuck now:  "Creating entry for GPT partition #2 (MBR partition #2).  Enter an MBR hex code (default AF): AF.  Set the bootable flag? (Y/N):"  I don't know whether to set the bootable flag or not
[23:03] <acerimmer> ozxto: it does indeed make a difference.  Trade tutorials with me: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=212837&st=0#entry1427797  - and teh url to your guide??
[23:03] <_ramo> hi
[23:04] <ozxto> acerimmer:  I picked this because it was consistent with the hardware and the OSes I was attempting to install:  http://lifehacker.com/5531037/how-to-triple+boot-your-mac-with-windows-and-linux-no-boot-camp-required
[23:04] <ubluntu> atruno: looks like its showing up fine to me... but you said it does NOT show up in alsamixer ? TOP left will say CHIP ALC887 VD
[23:04] <_ramo> i'm running a solr instance on the tomcat6 servletcontainer on ubuntu. i get an java heap space exception. where can i increase the memory for the tomcat server?
[23:04] <Scunizi> How do I find the pid of system-monitor?  pidof system-monitor doesn't work and the system monitor window itself is frozen
[23:05] <acerimmer> ozxto: which version of ubuntu are you installing?  10.04?
[23:05] <ozxto> 11.10
[23:05] <ozxto> acerimmer:  Sorry, 11.10
[23:05] <atruno> ubluntu, that is correct alsamixer doesn't see it whatsoever.
[23:05] <dlentz> atruno, press F6..
[23:06] <ozxto> acerimmer:  I had read here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation  That the partition tables needed to be fixed, which is how I stumbled upon this problem in the first place.
[23:06] <ubluntu> atruno: any sound with this command ? aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[23:06] <atruno> dlentz, i've pressed F6 and selected every possible entry and its not visible
[23:06] <acerimmer> ozxto: I'd trust the Mactel method...
[23:06] <atruno> ubluntu, yes and i'm very happy to hear thazt
[23:07] <ubluntu> :-D
[23:07] <IIMaxII> Hello! Can anyone help me figure out how to correctly install ati gpu drivers?
[23:07] <atruno> gnome mixer however doesn't see it.
[23:07] <ubluntu> atruno: do you have pavucontrol installed?
[23:07] <acerimmer> ozxto: and I'd install 10.04 for the moment.  grub/grub2 issues...
[23:07] <ubluntu> atruno: maybe also try a sudo alsa force-reload
[23:07] <atruno> ubluntu, stock ubuntu install.  fresh.
[23:07] <atruno> ok
[23:07] <dlentz> IIMaxII, what GPU do you have?
[23:07] <ozxto> acerimmer:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1910328  This is the thread I made about my problem.  The only thing I'm hung up on right now is whether or not to set the bootable flag.
[23:08] <IIMaxII> I am running crossfire 5770's
[23:08] <ozxto> acerimmer:  What sort of issues with grub?
[23:08] <html> !ati | IIMaxII
[23:08] <dlentz> The ubuntu automatic driver installer doesn't work for you?
[23:08] <ubluntu> atruno: ubuntu 11.10 ? cause we have same card and mine was auto-detected.....
[23:08] <acerimmer> ozxto: try it.  at worst, it'll fail.  reboot in live CD, go to gpartd and reset the flag...
[23:09] <IIMaxII> It didn't show any auto installer afaik
[23:09] <atruno> ubluntu, now its my worst nightmare.  11.10 yes.  alsamixer still comes up with nothing.
[23:09] <ozxto> acerimmer:  Okay, thanks for the help
[23:09] <acerimmer> ozxto: don't give up man.  If I can do it..
[23:09] <IIMaxII> I can tell it's not installed because my gpu is louder then it is when installed
[23:09] <dlentz> atruno, can you give the complete alsa info?
[23:09] <ubluntu> atruno: very weird. im thinking here
[23:09] <html> !alsamixer
[23:09] <ozxto> acerimmer:  I'm on the home stretch... no way I'm giving up :D
[23:10] <dlentz> atruno, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/AlsaInfo
[23:10] <ozxto> acerimmer:  Ta ta for now!
[23:10] <ubluntu> atruno: run this for me and which kernel driver/module does it say its using. lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"
[23:11] <IIMaxII> What do you recommend open source or proprietary gpu drivers?
[23:11] <dlentz> IIMaxII, see http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29
[23:13] <mybox1776> I have a question - I recently just started playingn games in LINUX like Tuz Racer, etc ---  what I find is that when they games go full screen..I platy them no problem...  but when I quit - it puts me back in to 480X resolution mode...
[23:13] <atruno> ubluntu http://paste.ubuntu.com/807981/     http://paste.ubuntu.com/807982/
[23:13] <mybox1776> In ordee to get it back..I have to log out to get back to my 1280x resolution - does this will all games that go full screen. What gives?
[23:14] <atruno> the second entry is alsa-info.sh
[23:14] <dlentz> atruno, that's not the info
[23:14] <dlentz> you're supposed to upload it and copy/paste the link it goives
[23:15] <dlentz> *gives
[23:15] <ubluntu> atruno: thats wrong. its in Your ALSA information is in /tmp/alsa-info.txt.PAyvmUxdVd   sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /tmp/alsa-info.txt.PAyvmUxdVd
[23:16] <nRy> why am I getting this message: "Options marked [*] produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !"
[23:16] <nRy> when I try to install a .deb file?
[23:16] <nRy> anyone know?
[23:16] <atruno> ubluntu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/807985/  i thought you could pipe pastebinit
[23:16] <nRy> I am simply trying to run sudo dpkg -–install
[23:16] <ubluntu> what?
[23:16] <nRy> which I have done before but it is giving that error
[23:17] <nRy> I have just setup a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.4 LTS
[23:17] <atruno> ubluntu, i am very thankful for your help i hope thats a good lead.  i however must take a few minute break.
[23:18] <cordor> help, mouse seems weird. can't highlight text properly. can switch between left/right hand mouse.
[23:18] <nRy> it also says dpkg: unknown option -n
[23:18] <zykotick9> nRy: (i'm not clear on your issue) but does "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb" work?  or are you trying to install multiple debs in one command using *?
[23:19] <nRy> can someone please help me?
[23:20] <PDG1> hello
[23:20] <nRy> zykotick9: i tried it and it says:     dpkg: error processing foo.deb (--install):
[23:20] <nRy>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[23:20] <nRy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:20] <nRy>  foo.deb
[23:20] <zykotick9> nRy: replace foo.deb with the name of the DEB you are actually installing
[23:20] <zykotick9> nRy: foo is used as a variable in unix-land often
[23:21] <nRy> AH!
[23:21] <PDG1> I'm having a lot of trouble installing LemonPOS and I was wondering if anyone knew of some good Point of Sale alternatives
[23:21] <nRy> that works
[23:21] <atruno> ubluntu, did that give you any clues ?
[23:22] <ubluntu> not really. but that doesn't mean that one isn't there
[23:22] <dlentz> atruno, edit /etc/pulse/default.pa, find line that says, #load-module module-alsa-sink, and change to load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw0,0
[23:22] <atruno> dlentz, thank you very very much
[23:22] <dlentz> (remove the '#')
[23:22] <dlentz> don;'t thank me yet
[23:22] <dlentz> :P
[23:23] <ubluntu> dlentz: he can hear sound alrdy though just doesn't show up in alsamixer
[23:23] <neuro-sys> Hello, is there a package for Tor project in the official repositories?
[23:23] <neuro-sys> or a web link that I can use to check for packages
[23:23] <dlentz> the hdmi is on the same device as the analog
[23:23] <neuro-sys> (I haven't ubuntu installed, and trying to help someone to install stuff)
[23:23] <zykotick9> !tor | neuro-sys
[23:23] <crescendo> new version of.... I have no idea what (just updated) no longer spans the gnome3 top bar across multiple monitors. :(((
[23:23] <neuro-sys> thanks zykotick9
[23:23] <atruno> dlentz, the quote has been removed, reboot ?
[23:24] <dlentz> no, just restart pulse
[23:24] <dlentz> pulseaudio -k
[23:24] <orionmatrix> hola
[23:24] <orionmatrix> buenas  noches
[23:25] <orionmatrix> amigos....
[23:25] <atruno> dlentz, no such process no install.   with sudo failed to kill daemon:  permission denied.
[23:25] <dlentz> then hust log out and back in
[23:25] <dlentz> *just
[23:25] <atruno> k
[23:25] <atruno> ty
[23:25] <orionmatrix> quisiera  saber [ si alguien tiene la respuesta ] si hay algo asi como un backup  del sistema
[23:26] <orionmatrix> me refiero un  restore
[23:26] <ubluntu> can you explain how they are on the same "device" I have the same card so im curious what you mean.
[23:26] <orionmatrix> algo  asi...
[23:26] <mark_john> k
[23:27] <dlentz> ubluntu, it's hw0:0 while the hdmi is hw0:3
[23:27] <dlentz> usually different cards have a different first number
[23:27] <ubluntu> but how does editing a pulse audio file change what shows up in alsamixer ?
[23:27] <orionmatrix> hay un canal  ubuntu  spanish?
[23:27] <hydrox24AFK> ubluntu: I think you're right, alsamixer is lower level than pulse
[23:28] <ubluntu> it is lower level.....
[23:28] <ubluntu> editing that file is worthless for his problem sorry...
[23:28] <dlentz> i thought we were trying to get sound
[23:28] <ubluntu> no
[23:28] <iwantfroyo> orionmatrix, #ubuntu-es
[23:28] <ubluntu> I told you he has sound
[23:28] <hydrox24AFK> dlentz: what is you're problem exactly
[23:28] <orionmatrix> ok exist  an alternative as restore in linux?
[23:28] <dlentz> oh, but now way to control?
[23:28] <ubluntu> its not his problem
[23:28] <orionmatrix> restore  sistem?
[23:28] <hydrox24AFK> ubluntu: or is it you're problem
[23:28] <ubluntu> no its someone elses but we have the same card and mine auto-worked on 11.10 and his did not
[23:29] <ubluntu> but his sound does work just does not show up in alsamixer
[23:29] <ubluntu> does show up in aplay -L tho
[23:29] <hydrox24AFK> why is alsamixer important?
[23:29] <ubluntu> cause its the gui to control alsa sound levels
[23:29] <atruno> dlentz, i rebooted.  i heard a very warped startup sound.  the device is seen in gnome audio mixer but not terminal alsamixer.
[23:29] <hydrox24> BRB
[23:30] <atruno> hydrox24, sometimes sound won't work without its adjustment.
[23:30] <ubluntu> atruno: alsamixer is lower level then pulse though
[23:30] <orionmatrix> ubuntu
[23:30] <dlentz> atruno, ok, edit that file again and put the '#' back
[23:30] <atruno> ok
[23:30] <dlentz> i;m sorry, now i undestand the problem is not no sound
[23:30] <ubluntu> no need to log out/in though
[23:31] <atruno> dlentz, that is now back to how it was.
[23:31] <ubluntu> dlentz: btw you use pavucontrol to switch between the hdmi/analog output
[23:32] <ubluntu> on this card. but if it doesn't show up in alsamixer it isn't gonna show up in pavucontrol afaik
[23:32] <dlentz> yeah, i thought the analog wasn't showing there
[23:32] <dlentz> bad assumption
[23:32] <orionmatrix> someone  know  the spanish  chanel ubutnu?
[23:33] <m4v> !es | orionmatrix
[23:33] <hydrox24> orionmatrix: see http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage#spanish
[23:33] <dlentz> atruno, so none of the controls alsamixer affect the volume, because it looks like the controls for the analog and hdmi are all mixed together and titled hdmi
[23:33] <hydrox24> orionmatrix: see http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage#spanish
[23:33] <layermask> Hi Guys Some Playonlinux users here?
[23:33] <orionmatrix> i am lookinf  the spanish  chanell ubuntu
[23:33] <hydrox24> WINE user?
[23:33] <atruno> dlentz, ok..  definitely not there in alsamixer.
[23:33] <hydrox24> orionmatrix: go here http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage#spanish
[23:34] <layermask> Yeap...
[23:34] <iwantfroyo> @orionmatrix, #ubuntu-es
[23:34] <ubluntu> it has master/headphone/pcm/front/front mic/surround/center/lfe/line .....
[23:34] <hydrox24> layermask: what's your issue?
[23:34] <orionmatrix> thanks hydrox
[23:35] <hydrox24> orionmatrix: no problemo
[23:35] <layermask> I need to run a application in another local, not a default local...i use the same drive to install my games in ubuntu and Win7
[23:36] <ampharos> On my PC, SDL apps occasionally flicker the screen in windowed mode. the entire screen.
[23:37] <neuro-sys> do people come here for trolling occasionally?
[23:37] <hydrox24> layermask: is 'local' equivelant to wineprfixes?
[23:37] <hydrox24> neuro-sys: not often
[23:37] <atruno> that unavoidable no matter where on irc you travel.
[23:37] <ubluntu> atruno: you got a ~/.asoundrc file ?
[23:37] <hydrox24> atruno: neuro-sys: true!
[23:37] <atruno> ubluntu, sure do.  i should.  ty.
[23:38] <dlentz> trolls are like geese, they sh!tt everywhere and never leave
[23:38] <atruno> ubluntu, actually it wasn't created on a new installation.
[23:39] <ubluntu> atruno: yea I don't have one either
[23:41] <atruno> ubluntu, i'm pleased to say that i have no kernels to try, the default initial upgrade had a very low version kernel this new one i hope werks.
[23:42] <atruno> new
[23:42] <ubluntu> atruno: this is very weird for it to work but not show in alsamixer...
[23:42] <hydrox24> layermask: you there?
[23:43] <layermask> yes
[23:43] <hydrox24> you're gonna have to be present if you want my help
[23:43] <atruno> ubluntu, it was a very distorted startup sound ? :/
[23:43] <PDG1> has anyone set up a simple point of sale system on linux before?
[23:43] <atruno> brb
[23:43] <hydrox24> layermask ok cool
[23:43] <ubluntu> that might be cause of he had you change that file
[23:43] <layermask> im here
[23:43] <hydrox24> so are these 'locals' in playonlinux equivilant to a wineprefix?
[23:44] <elisa87> hey, I wanna know how to use AFS command : fs acl ... any example?
[23:44] <elisa87> I want to put some files on AFS
[23:45] <corretico_> hi guys
[23:45] <alex__> layermask: sorrym, accidentally quit
[23:45] <corretico_> any pluging for java on Ubuntu 11.10
[23:46] <layermask> yeap he use scripts to create virtual drives using wineprefix
[23:46] <top500>  i am trying to install ubuntu 10.11 on new HD ..starts good and after 30.sec then friz and nothing just ubuntu logo ....any help
[23:46] <atruno> happy.  thank you.  all.  very useful lesson for everyone to know on a new install two apt-get uprades, and one dist-upgrade, and its smooth sailing.  everything is fine and i really appreciate the help.  i can't believe people are so generous to assist others to that extent without pay.
[23:46] <atruno> have a very nice day.
[23:47] <layermask> the 1 million question is...is possible create other virtual drive in other drive, not in home?
[23:47] <ubluntu> atruno: it works now ?
[23:47] <atruno> yep
[23:47] <ubluntu> good sh!t
[23:47] <layermask> i found the answer...thanks
[23:47] <ubluntu> enjoy.
[23:47] <hydrox24> ok cool
[23:47] <ubluntu> so you needed a new kernel ?
[23:47] <elisa87> do you have an example how to use this command : fs setacl <path> user acl, fs sa <path> <user> <acl>  Set the Acess Control List for the user user on the directory path. ?
[23:47] <atruno> oddly ubuntu needed two consecutive apt-get updates/upgrades.  everything works perfectly.
[23:48] <ubluntu> yea thats weird......
[23:48] <atruno> take care all
[23:48] <ubluntu> atruno: if it ever stops working unmute all channels one by one in alsamixer
[23:48] <ubluntu> happens to me all the time
[23:48] <ubluntu> like mute/unmute
[23:48] <atruno> :) thanks
[23:49] <top500>  i am trying to install ubuntu 10.11 on new HD ..starts good and after 30.sec then friz and nothing just ubuntu logo ....any help
[23:49] <MrKeuner> When I type ping oneofmy and hit tab bash completes it as ping oneofmy.servers.com. This is cool but I cannot figure how bash figured it out. any idea? lucid here
[23:50] <ubluntu> top500: turn your bootsplash off so you can see the text
[23:50] <ubluntu> !bootsplash
[23:50] <hydrox24> top500: can you give any more info?
[23:50] <ubluntu> top500: this will work for 11.10 also http://anonir.wordpress.com/2010/08/08/ubuntu-lucid-disable-boot-splash/
[23:50] <top500> bootsplash ....where ..how?
[23:51] <ubluntu> could possibly be a nomodeset issue too. but if you disable bootsplash you might see an error
[23:52] <hydrox24> top500: if you're using grub and don't (or can't) access /etc/default...
[23:52] <hydrox24> top500: then I can tell you how to do it through the grub(2) interface at boot
[23:54] <top500> totaly newby ....do not know all terms...goub2
[23:55] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[23:55] <hydrox24> top500: when you boot up do you get a (purple?) screen that gives you a choice between various OS's ?
[23:55] <Titomen> I am trying to apply some update available and getting: http://pastebin.com/8b6snXuv  can not update anything..any help apprecioated
[23:55] <LadyGorey> I'm having issues with my external harddrive.
[23:55] <hydrox24> top500: or even various versions of ubuntu and memory test things
[23:56] <top500> hydrox24...no it is brend new HD
[23:56] <OerHeks> Titomen, just remove the " -y "
[23:57] <LadyGorey> Can someone help me, please
[23:57] <hydrox24> LadyGorey: What's you're more specific issue?
[23:58] <LadyGorey> I have an external HD that's formatted for Mac. My Mac died about 2 months ago. I'm currently using a PC with Ubuntu and I'd like to be able to access the files on the HD, but I can't get it to change from read only.
[23:58] <hydrox24> yup
[23:58] <hydrox24> ok, so when you plug it in and access it all the files are read only?
[23:58] <LadyGorey> Yeah
[23:59] <Guest15660> what's crackin' noobs.
[23:59] <hydrox24> do you know what the filesystem it is using is?
[23:59] <LadyGorey> Not sure
[23:59] <hydrox24> ok, hold on