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scott-workit looks like REVU is still down :(   i want to get the -lowlatency kernel into it :|13:30
astraljavaProbably you meant to say this on our channel, but anyway, I asked for you on #-motu.13:48
scott-workdoh!14:08
astraljavaHey do you guys have an app that would work as a front-end to gmail calendar? Or can you make orage to do that, somehow?16:01
micahgastraljava: xul-ext-lightning?16:28
astraljavamicahg: Thanks!16:33
astraljava$ sudo apt-get install xul-ext-lightning16:33
astraljavaSuggested packages: latex-xft-fonts16:33
astraljava$ apt-cache show latex-xft-fonts16:33
astraljavaN: Can't select versions from package 'latex-xft-fonts' as it is purely virtual16:33
astraljavaN: No packages found16:33
micahgastraljava: ah, we might have to remove that16:34
astraljavamicahg: Yep.16:35
micahgastraljava: can you file a bug to track it please?16:36
astraljavamicahg: Yes of course.16:36
micahgthanks16:37
micahgmadnick: you have a webkit greeter in precise: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/lightdm-webkit-greeter/0.1.2-0ubuntu116:39
micahgalthough I'd still prefer a GTK one...16:39
astraljavamicahg: bug #91774316:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 917743 in lightning-extension (Ubuntu) "xul-ext-lightning suggests a missing package 'latex-xft-fonts'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91774316:41
astraljavaHas anyone actually managed to change T-bird opening links to something else than F-fox?17:29
micahgdoes that still not work?17:31
micahgI thought we fixed preferred applications setting the default in gsettinsg17:32
micahg*gsettings17:32
astraljavamicahg: At least I am not sure how it was supposed to work. Just adding x-www-browser in config editor wasn't enough. Turning warnings on finally gave me the chance to change it, though.17:37
micahgastraljava: x-www-browser is deprecated17:38
astraljavamicahg: Hmm? It is available in update-alternatives, and is linked to /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser. What will replace it, then?17:39
micahgthe browser preference in the DE17:40
astraljavamicahg: Ahh... gotcha. It just doesn't seem to stick on this one.17:40
micahgwhich might be a bug in it17:40
astraljavaCould be. I just never recall whether I had changed it or not when I rebooted. Now I changed it, so I will try to remember and check it after I need a reboot.17:41
micahgastraljava: please file a bug against xfce4-settings-manager17:42
micahgif it doesn't work that is :)17:42
astraljavamicahg: I will, after I verify that.17:42
micahgthanks17:43
astraljavaBah, no 24h view. :)17:58
micahghmm, there should be a setting for that20:29
astraljavamicahg: Let me know how to find it, if you can. I think I browsed through all the settings. Author is probably british/american, though. :)20:32
micahgindeed :(, certainly worth a wishlist request20:35
astraljavaI'll see if I get _that_ bothered. :)20:37
* micahg cries: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2012-January/008115.html23:38
knomeexact reason?23:38
knomethe schedule, or the new version numbering?23:39
micahgversion numbering, we figured the schedule was hopeless23:39
knomeheh23:39
knomei think it's a bit awkward too23:41
knomebut hey, it's their projecct23:41
knome-c23:41
knome(and they host the shimmer project site, so ssshhh)23:41
knome;)23:41
ochosioh lord23:41
knomehehe23:42
knomehey ochosi 23:42
ochosibut you read the release-date in the blog-post by sarts, no? ^^23:42
astraljavaHey, it said 1st of April. It's an April Fools, right?23:42
ochosihey knome 23:42
micahghmm...maybe :)23:42
knomeright, but it's not april 1 NOW23:42
astraljavaOh, dangit.23:42
ochosiknome: yes, but this is an even not so subtle hint to irony/sarcasm23:43
knome:P23:43
micahgthis sounds like an april fools joke though23:43
ochosiwell it is23:43
knomemaybe they've just backed themselves up23:43
knome"if people hate it, let's just call it april fools" :P23:43
ochosilol23:43
ochosiyeah, i think that the versioning scheme discussion really got out of hand23:44
knomemmh23:44
ochosiso stephan's reaction was really understandable (and really funny if you followed the discussion)23:44
knomeany reasonable packaging systems know that 4.10 > 4.8 anyway23:44
knomehaven't really followed it23:44
micahgochosi: where was the discussion?23:45
ochosi#xfce-dev23:45
ochosiactually it also took place on the ml a while ago iirc23:45
astraljava"Olivier Fourdan argued [...], nobody uses the hexadecimal system for version-numbers, that is silly." - I'm sure Olivier is happy now. 23:45
micahgastraljava: no, just destruct sequences23:46
astraljavaOn another note, what to do with a CD that I want to rip (no warez!), the first track of which is shown to being 38.4MB on the disk, but when copied to hard drive, is suddenly 58.3MB? No ripper software seems to handle this correctly.23:50
ochosiastraljava: maybe a problem with the drive?23:50
astraljavaThe CD in question is Mastodon - Crack the Skye, if it makes a difference.23:50
ochosi(or an old cd?)23:50
astraljavaochosi: Nope, neither.23:50
knomeastraljava, did you try CLI tools?23:51
astraljavaI've just ripped tens of CDs, and all the others were just fine. And it's just come out of the wrappers.23:51
knomei've had good results with those in the hard cases23:51
astraljavaknome: I did not.23:51
astraljavaknome: What would you suggest?23:51
astraljavaabcde?23:51
knomethat, or cdparanoia23:52
astraljavaI'm beginning to think this is the CD that was mentioned a while back, having some hidden music before the TOC pointing to the beginning of the disc.23:53
knome:)23:53
astraljavaYou know, some of the older cd players were capable of "rewinding" past 0:00.23:54
knomehuh.23:54
knomeyou know, the tangent cd player can't play all of the "copy-controlled", broken discs :/23:54
knomethat sucks23:54
knomethe discs suck23:55
knomei'd throw them in the river, but there is no river here and i also paid some money for them23:55
astraljavaRiver Vantaa?23:55
knometoo far23:55
* knome is in southern haga23:56
astraljavaBut they're discs, if you spin them correctly they will fly miles. :D23:56
knomelol. no, won't work out23:56
knometoo far23:56
astraljava"The seven songs on Crack the Skye stretch over about 50 minutes, an indulgent track-length average for any band not named Opeth."23:57
knomehah.23:58

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