[13:30] <scott-work> it looks like REVU is still down :(   i want to get the -lowlatency kernel into it :|
[13:48] <astraljava> Probably you meant to say this on our channel, but anyway, I asked for you on #-motu.
[14:08] <scott-work> doh!
[16:01] <astraljava> Hey do you guys have an app that would work as a front-end to gmail calendar? Or can you make orage to do that, somehow?
[16:28] <micahg> astraljava: xul-ext-lightning?
[16:33] <astraljava> micahg: Thanks!
[16:33] <astraljava> $ sudo apt-get install xul-ext-lightning
[16:33] <astraljava> Suggested packages: latex-xft-fonts
[16:33] <astraljava> $ apt-cache show latex-xft-fonts
[16:33] <astraljava> N: Can't select versions from package 'latex-xft-fonts' as it is purely virtual
[16:33] <astraljava> N: No packages found
[16:34] <micahg> astraljava: ah, we might have to remove that
[16:35] <astraljava> micahg: Yep.
[16:36] <micahg> astraljava: can you file a bug to track it please?
[16:36] <astraljava> micahg: Yes of course.
[16:37] <micahg> thanks
[16:39] <micahg> madnick: you have a webkit greeter in precise: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/lightdm-webkit-greeter/0.1.2-0ubuntu1
[16:39] <micahg> although I'd still prefer a GTK one...
[16:41] <astraljava> micahg: bug #917743
[17:29] <astraljava> Has anyone actually managed to change T-bird opening links to something else than F-fox?
[17:31] <micahg> does that still not work?
[17:32] <micahg> I thought we fixed preferred applications setting the default in gsettinsg
[17:32] <micahg> *gsettings
[17:37] <astraljava> micahg: At least I am not sure how it was supposed to work. Just adding x-www-browser in config editor wasn't enough. Turning warnings on finally gave me the chance to change it, though.
[17:38] <micahg> astraljava: x-www-browser is deprecated
[17:39] <astraljava> micahg: Hmm? It is available in update-alternatives, and is linked to /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser. What will replace it, then?
[17:40] <micahg> the browser preference in the DE
[17:40] <astraljava> micahg: Ahh... gotcha. It just doesn't seem to stick on this one.
[17:40] <micahg> which might be a bug in it
[17:41] <astraljava> Could be. I just never recall whether I had changed it or not when I rebooted. Now I changed it, so I will try to remember and check it after I need a reboot.
[17:42] <micahg> astraljava: please file a bug against xfce4-settings-manager
[17:42] <micahg> if it doesn't work that is :)
[17:42] <astraljava> micahg: I will, after I verify that.
[17:43] <micahg> thanks
[17:58] <astraljava> Bah, no 24h view. :)
[20:29] <micahg> hmm, there should be a setting for that
[20:32] <astraljava> micahg: Let me know how to find it, if you can. I think I browsed through all the settings. Author is probably british/american, though. :)
[20:35] <micahg> indeed :(, certainly worth a wishlist request
[20:37] <astraljava> I'll see if I get _that_ bothered. :)
[23:38]  * micahg cries: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2012-January/008115.html
[23:38] <knome> exact reason?
[23:39] <knome> the schedule, or the new version numbering?
[23:39] <micahg> version numbering, we figured the schedule was hopeless
[23:39] <knome> heh
[23:41] <knome> i think it's a bit awkward too
[23:41] <knome> but hey, it's their projecct
[23:41] <knome> -c
[23:41] <knome> (and they host the shimmer project site, so ssshhh)
[23:41] <knome> ;)
[23:41] <ochosi> oh lord
[23:42] <knome> hehe
[23:42] <knome> hey ochosi 
[23:42] <ochosi> but you read the release-date in the blog-post by sarts, no? ^^
[23:42] <astraljava> Hey, it said 1st of April. It's an April Fools, right?
[23:42] <ochosi> hey knome 
[23:42] <micahg> hmm...maybe :)
[23:42] <knome> right, but it's not april 1 NOW
[23:42] <astraljava> Oh, dangit.
[23:43] <ochosi> knome: yes, but this is an even not so subtle hint to irony/sarcasm
[23:43] <knome> :P
[23:43] <micahg> this sounds like an april fools joke though
[23:43] <ochosi> well it is
[23:43] <knome> maybe they've just backed themselves up
[23:43] <knome> "if people hate it, let's just call it april fools" :P
[23:43] <ochosi> lol
[23:44] <ochosi> yeah, i think that the versioning scheme discussion really got out of hand
[23:44] <knome> mmh
[23:44] <ochosi> so stephan's reaction was really understandable (and really funny if you followed the discussion)
[23:44] <knome> any reasonable packaging systems know that 4.10 > 4.8 anyway
[23:44] <knome> haven't really followed it
[23:45] <micahg> ochosi: where was the discussion?
[23:45] <ochosi> #xfce-dev
[23:45] <ochosi> actually it also took place on the ml a while ago iirc
[23:45] <astraljava> "Olivier Fourdan argued [...], nobody uses the hexadecimal system for version-numbers, that is silly." - I'm sure Olivier is happy now. 
[23:46] <micahg> astraljava: no, just destruct sequences
[23:50] <astraljava> On another note, what to do with a CD that I want to rip (no warez!), the first track of which is shown to being 38.4MB on the disk, but when copied to hard drive, is suddenly 58.3MB? No ripper software seems to handle this correctly.
[23:50] <ochosi> astraljava: maybe a problem with the drive?
[23:50] <astraljava> The CD in question is Mastodon - Crack the Skye, if it makes a difference.
[23:50] <ochosi> (or an old cd?)
[23:50] <astraljava> ochosi: Nope, neither.
[23:51] <knome> astraljava, did you try CLI tools?
[23:51] <astraljava> I've just ripped tens of CDs, and all the others were just fine. And it's just come out of the wrappers.
[23:51] <knome> i've had good results with those in the hard cases
[23:51] <astraljava> knome: I did not.
[23:51] <astraljava> knome: What would you suggest?
[23:51] <astraljava> abcde?
[23:52] <knome> that, or cdparanoia
[23:53] <astraljava> I'm beginning to think this is the CD that was mentioned a while back, having some hidden music before the TOC pointing to the beginning of the disc.
[23:53] <knome> :)
[23:54] <astraljava> You know, some of the older cd players were capable of "rewinding" past 0:00.
[23:54] <knome> huh.
[23:54] <knome> you know, the tangent cd player can't play all of the "copy-controlled", broken discs :/
[23:54] <knome> that sucks
[23:55] <knome> the discs suck
[23:55] <knome> i'd throw them in the river, but there is no river here and i also paid some money for them
[23:55] <astraljava> River Vantaa?
[23:55] <knome> too far
[23:56]  * knome is in southern haga
[23:56] <astraljava> But they're discs, if you spin them correctly they will fly miles. :D
[23:56] <knome> lol. no, won't work out
[23:56] <knome> too far
[23:57] <astraljava> "The seven songs on Crack the Skye stretch over about 50 minutes, an indulgent track-length average for any band not named Opeth."
[23:58] <knome> hah.