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bschaefer | andyrock, woot, I think I fixed the space problem! (Or I am on the right track) | 01:13 |
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bschaefer | andyrock, you are always up so late | 01:13 |
andyrock | eheh compiz's fault | 01:14 |
bschaefer | haha, I have yet to start tacking parts of that beast. Sam has told me about it before haha | 01:14 |
bschaefer | tackling* | 01:18 |
andyrock | nux is something like a beast too | 01:18 |
andyrock | :) | 01:18 |
bschaefer | yeeah, I have gone through that | 01:19 |
bschaefer | parts at lease | 01:19 |
andyrock | bschaefer, to understand/fix this bug i've lose to day 893670 | 01:21 |
andyrock | #893670 | 01:21 |
andyrock | and after a night in a disco | 01:22 |
andyrock | when i got to home | 01:22 |
andyrock | I was inspired | 01:22 |
andyrock | :) | 01:22 |
bschaefer | haha, let me look the bug up really quick. the bot seems to fail at parsing atm | 01:23 |
bschaefer | andyrock, nice! | 01:24 |
bschaefer | andyrock, that is about as much time as I have learning the ibus, ibus-hangul and libhangul code haha | 01:25 |
andyrock | cool, let me know if you fix the problem | 01:26 |
bschaefer | andyrock, well I have to space working correctly, because they didn't think they would be responsible for the space that gets sent to them | 01:27 |
bschaefer | andyrock, so the more annoying part the space is fixed in a build i have, but i want to make sure it is the correct fix :) | 01:27 |
andyrock | go it | 01:27 |
andyrock | *got it | 01:27 |
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mick0 | davidcalle: The spotify-precise branch works on precise. Just took a look at the packageing you commited yesterday.. Will start on that this evening. | 11:37 |
davidcalle | mick0, great! I will give it a try when I'm on my Precise install. | 11:38 |
mick0 | davidcalle: I think I have to change the recepie for the other branch to not include precise as it does not have the unity 5.0 changes? | 11:39 |
davidcalle | mick0, you just need to create another recipe and when you build : one with Precise, the other with Oneiric. The recipe itself does not change, you can copy-paste it. | 11:40 |
mick0 | ok | 11:40 |
mick0 | davidcalle: btw, I still saw the album art not loading bug when testing on precise. | 11:41 |
davidcalle | mick0, http://www.grillbar.org/wordpress/?p=585 | 11:41 |
davidcalle | mick0, I know, I don't think that gord had the time to look at the issue. I hope it will work fine on the release. | 11:43 |
mick0 | Oh ok. | 11:44 |
gord | nope not had time yet, was sprinting last week, maybe next week | 11:44 |
mick0 | davidcalle: That was a good blog post! Will try out the cancellable thing later instead of thaw. Have to run to a lecture now. | 11:52 |
davidcalle | Indeed! Have fun :) | 11:52 |
noordung | Hi guys. I'm writing an application that needs to know whether an AppMenu is active and being used. How can I detect that? | 12:22 |
kamstrup | JohnLea: hey, good progress on lenses in the home screen, it is basically working, just one question | 12:45 |
kamstrup | on the category names | 12:45 |
kamstrup | from the files lens we pull in "Recent" and "Downloads" and from the apps lens we pull in "Recently Used". The two "Recent*" are inelegantly similar | 12:45 |
kamstrup | should I change to "Recent Files" and "Recent Apps" (or "Recent Applications" - it might be overly hip to call it "Apps"? :-)) | 12:46 |
kamstrup | mhr3: incidentally... I have a rather complex thing to test out today... requiring someone on the unity team with jhbuild skills... (someone != /me) | 12:47 |
kamstrup | hint hint | 12:47 |
mhr3 | kamstrup, yea sure | 12:48 |
kamstrup | unless someone else on #ayatana has a unity-jhbuild stack at the ready | 12:48 |
kamstrup | mhr3: the homelens stuff could use a test spin before we waste time on review | 12:48 |
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kamstrup | mhr3: gimme 15 mins to push the latest tweaks | 12:48 |
* mhr3 starts preparing food meanwhile | 12:49 | |
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mhr3 | kamstrup, also fwiw we already call them "apps" in the sources filter | 13:10 |
JohnLea | kamstrup; yes, "Recent Files" and "Recent Apps" is good | 13:23 |
kamstrup | JohnLea: phew :-) Already committed it locally :-) | 13:24 |
kamstrup | JohnLea: running the still-WIP branches here it feels really good | 13:24 |
kamstrup | mhr3: can you read the status report on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/885738 and try out the branches? | 13:26 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 885738 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dash - Remove Dash Home shortcut icons" [High,In progress] | 13:26 |
* mhr3 updates .jhbuild | 13:30 | |
mhr3 | kamstrup, any chance you could sync with trunk? if not done | 13:31 |
kamstrup | mhr3: should be fairly recent, but let me do it | 13:31 |
kamstrup | mhr3: done | 13:33 |
kamstrup | mhr3: only unity needed sync | 13:33 |
mhr3 | great | 13:34 |
kamstrup | JohnLea: currently in home screen search the music lens uses two categories. This seems a bit out of proportions as the files- and apps only use one collated category each | 13:34 |
kamstrup | when searching in the home screen the results a dominated by music, which is rarely what I look for | 13:35 |
JohnLea | kamstrup; what are those 2 categories? Songs and Albums? | 13:35 |
kamstrup | right | 13:35 |
kamstrup | I am thinking maybe only include Songs | 13:36 |
kamstrup | as they'll match on the album title anyway afaik | 13:36 |
JohnLea | kamstrup; how about combining both into a single category? | 13:36 |
kamstrup | so ppl can go easily from the song to the album when the player is up | 13:36 |
kamstrup | also possible | 13:36 |
kamstrup | both are easy tweaks | 13:36 |
JohnLea | kamstrup; I think both would be good, with albums ordered infront of songs | 13:37 |
kamstrup | JohnLea: ok | 13:37 |
JohnLea | also "music" should be the last category header | 13:37 |
kamstrup | great, on it | 13:38 |
mhr3 | kamstrup, it's kinda crashing every time i press bfb :) | 13:39 |
kamstrup | mhr3: meh, it's rock steady here | 13:40 |
mhr3 | kamstrup, can it be cause i'm not running latest files lens? | 13:40 |
kamstrup | mhr3: still it shouldn't crash... but could be | 13:40 |
mhr3 | kamstrup, http://paste.ubuntu.com/808585/ | 13:41 |
mhr3 | i'll try rebuilding it all, it might be because of the incremental build... | 13:42 |
kamstrup | mhr3: looks nasty. mind that there is an abi break in UnityCore | 13:50 |
mhr3 | yea, i'm rebuilding... i just dont have 8 cores :P | 13:52 |
mhr3 | kamstrup, works now :) | 14:00 |
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mgedmin | so, middle-click on the top panel brings the focused maximized window to the background -- awesome! | 15:05 |
mgedmin | unless the area that looked like blank top panel reveals an application menu at the last moment -- d'oh! | 15:06 |
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tgm4883 | I'm trying to create a mythtv scope for ubuntuTV and there doesn't appear to be a way to do this yet http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/tv-experience-spongebob.jpg | 16:36 |
tgm4883 | Does an API exist for this yet? | 16:36 |
mhall119 | tgm4883: exist for what? | 16:51 |
tgm4883 | mhall119, for adding the content so it shows in a preview as in the screenshot | 16:51 |
tgm4883 | The only thing I've really seen is the default unity way of showing things | 16:52 |
mhall119 | tgm4883: I don't think so, but I think it's supposed to make it's way back into Unity, so it will at some point | 16:52 |
tgm4883 | is there a roadmap for that? | 16:52 |
mhall119 | tgm4883: some of the things that *look* like scopes in the demo are custom code made just for the demo | 16:52 |
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tgm4883 | I've got a scope for MythTV made that puts the shows in the videos lens, but that doesn't really work so well for TV recordings | 16:54 |
tgm4883 | The Schema doesn't really seem suited for recorded shows | 16:55 |
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mick0 | mhr3: Im experimenting with Dee.Transaction and want to show results while appending them. Like you could do with flush_revision_queue before. Is there any good way to do this? | 19:26 |
mhr3 | mick0, the reason Transaction exists is to prevent that :) | 19:27 |
mhr3 | (showing results while you're appending them) | 19:27 |
mick0 | So I should just do that the old way. And check is_cancelled alot. | 19:29 |
mhr3 | mick0, if you're not doing any async io, you really dont need to check the cancellable | 19:30 |
mhr3 | the cancellable can get cancelled *only* if you return to mainloop at some point | 19:30 |
mick0 | what do you mean? As I understand it is_cancelled will return true if an new search query has been entered. | 19:31 |
mhr3 | yes, but that can't happen magically, you need to be doing async io for that to happen | 19:33 |
mick0 | By async you mean the io (in my case requests to a web server) running in its own thread? | 19:35 |
mhr3 | yes, or a callback based io (like gio is - or at least its non _sync methods) | 19:36 |
mhr3 | you could also spin the mainloop yourself for a while even between synchronous operations | 19:37 |
mick0 | Hmm. I don't think cancel will work better then thaw in this scope. | 19:38 |
mhr3 | well if you're not doing async operations you dont need freeze/thaw in the first place | 19:39 |
mick0 | Actually thaw makes a difference. It will make the scope to ignore some redundant search querys. | 19:42 |
mick0 | for example, a long string will be searched in the start and then at the end. | 19:42 |
mhr3 | unity does that, not lenses/scopes | 19:42 |
mhr3 | but it'll change in 5.2 ;) | 19:43 |
mick0 | even in oneiric? I've noticed a difference when Im using thaw and when I don't | 19:43 |
mhr3 | yep, even in oneiric | 19:46 |
mhr3 | what you saw was probably different typing speed ;) | 19:46 |
mhr3 | or a webserver having good/bad moment | 19:47 |
mhr3 | not sure what your scope is doing... | 19:47 |
mick0 | oh. It's the spotify scope. It querys spotifys metadata server for tracks and albums and fetches album art. | 19:48 |
mhr3 | well... if the server was *really* slow, you actually could see some difference with the thawing | 19:50 |
mick0 | I understand it as I wont get any new querys while Im freezed? | 19:51 |
mick0 | and then get a new when I thaw. | 19:51 |
mhr3 | right, they're queued and dispatched once you thaw | 19:51 |
mick0 | That is the what I see then. | 19:51 |
mhr3 | well ultimately it'll behave the same way now even without freezing anyway | 19:52 |
mhr3 | s/anyway/anything/ | 19:53 |
mick0 | As every with query I do a few querys. In theory max 26. Two to the metadata server and 24 to get album art (if all results are from different albums). | 19:53 |
mick0 | thaw seems to make a difference | 19:54 |
mhr3 | damn, that must take a while | 19:54 |
mhr3 | what's the average time to completely all the queries? | 19:54 |
mick0 | I havent got any number but I estimate the first result to show with album art within 1 or 2 secs. | 19:56 |
mhr3 | wooo | 19:56 |
mhr3 | but yea... webservices are slow... | 19:56 |
mhr3 | we're aiming for ~80ms with the default lenses | 19:57 |
mhr3 | and they still get cancelled from time to time ;) | 19:58 |
mick0 | thats all local requests? | 19:58 |
mhr3 | mick0, yea, there's no way a webservice would reply in such short time | 20:00 |
mhr3 | they're all in java and take 80ms just to process the http header :D | 20:00 |
mick0 | ^^ | 20:01 |
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mhall119 | davidcalle: mhr3: is there any reference of what changed in the Lens api for Unity 5? | 20:33 |
mhr3 | mhall119, kamstrup published a nice blog post about it | 20:34 |
mhr3 | it's on planet | 20:34 |
mhall119 | ah, I've been so busy today I haven't even consulted my readfeeder | 20:34 |
bschaefer | mhr3, thanks for that update. I should be able to finish that today at some point! | 21:14 |
mhr3 | bschaefer, no hurry, but let me know of the progress :) | 21:15 |
bschaefer | mhr3, will do :) | 21:15 |
bschaefer | mhr3, hey, quick question. So there is still a possibility that when results->count == 0 and for it to not have no-result-hint. correct? | 22:07 |
bschaefer | mhr3, also noticed the results->count updates correctly now :) | 22:08 |
mhr3 | bschaefer, right, and it may the other way around as well | 22:08 |
mhr3 | like you'll get "no-results-hint" and have > 0 results | 22:09 |
bschaefer | mhr3, cool, ill just check if results == 0 then check if there is a no-results-hint. :) | 22:09 |
bschaefer | thanks | 22:10 |
mhr3 | me skipping verbs is a sign that i should to bed :) | 22:10 |
bschaefer | mhr3, haha yeah, it's just 2pm here. Have a good night. I should be done with this in under an hour :). | 22:10 |
mhr3 | bschaefer, cool, have fun with it | 22:11 |
bschaefer | mhr3, will do, you did most the work! | 22:11 |
bschaefer | and a good job at it. Very easy to finish this now | 22:11 |
mhr3 | thx, and gn | 22:12 |
bschaefer | night | 22:12 |
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