[01:07] <bobweaver> Hello there I am seeting up a server (11.10 64 bit) and am have some troubles with the networking not being auto on set up. It (installer)then ask if I would like to try again or to configure manually I have also tried this I think that I might be entering somethig wrong. 1st qurestion is to enter my ip Is this the public ip that I get when I go to what is my ip or is this the ip that is on my lan ? then it asks for netmask then for the
[01:07] <bobweaver>  gateway the gatre way is the same thing that I use to get out into the world ? like when I sign into my router ?
[01:08] <bobweaver> s|what is my ip | whatismyip.com
[01:08] <bobweaver> s gatre way | gateway
[09:28] <ashickur-noor> How I can install unity 5 in 11.10?
[09:30] <IAmNotThatGuy> ashickur-noor: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/01/install-unity-50-on-ubuntu-1110-oneiric.html
[09:30] <ashickur-noor> চহীচকিনগ
[09:30] <ashickur-noor> hecking
[13:21] <jupe> hello
[13:24] <nothingspecial> hello jupe
[13:25] <jupe> new to this.  trying to learn client - mIRC
[13:25] <nothingspecial> ok, keep going :)
[13:25] <zeroseven0183> Nice meeting you jupe!
[13:26] <zeroseven0183> Welcome to the beginners team support channel
[13:26] <jupe> I can access this channel via web browser.     But not in mIRC.
[13:27] <nothingspecial> OIC
[13:27] <nothingspecial> I thought you were just playing with it
[13:27]  * nothingspecial has never used mIRC
[13:27] <jupe> no.   just downloaded and trying to get mIRC working.
[13:28] <hobgoblin> are you in windows?
[13:28] <hobgoblin>  jupe ^^
[13:29] <jupe> right now, yes.    - have just downloaded and installed ubuntu 11.10
[13:29] <jupe> have 2 machines here..   1 with windows, 1 with ubuntu 11.10
[13:29] <nothingspecial> Have you connected to the freenode server? jupe
[13:29] <hobgoblin> I see - so you want to use mirc in windows - is that right - if you are trying to do so in ubuntu I would use something else
[13:30] <jupe> to hobgoblin -   I am open to   suggestions.  I want to learn to use IRC, so I can ask questions about ubuntu to help me learn ubuntu
[13:30] <jupe> to nothingspecial -  I think so.
[13:31] <nothingspecial> jupe, Try installing x-chat on Ubuntu
[13:31] <hobgoblin> I'd install xchat in ubuntu then :) nice and simple and a nice wiki page to follo
[13:31] <hobgoblin> jupe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[13:32] <hobgoblin> as far as windows goes though I've no idea :(
[13:32] <nothingspecial> http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/xchat-customizations/
[13:32] <jupe> ok.  I will    give that a try.   Thanks..
[13:32] <jupe> got it.  thanks.
[13:32] <hobgoblin> welcome and good luck jupe
[13:34] <Snicksie> hobgoblin, there's also xchat for windows... its free now :) works the same as the ubuntuversion, so quite useful as a client imo :)
[13:34] <hobgoblin> oh really - excellent
[13:34] <hobgoblin> thanks Snicksie
[13:34] <nothingspecial> cheers Snicksie
[13:35] <zeroseven0183> I'm using Pidgin here on my Lubuntu :-)
[13:35] <zeroseven0183> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin
[13:35] <hobgoblin> Snicksie: oic it's not free though
[13:35] <hobgoblin> zeroseven0183: I used pidgin once
[13:35]  * hobgoblin means that literally ;)
[13:35] <zeroseven0183> hobgoblin, so what happened then?
[13:35]  * hobgoblin used xchat instead :)
[13:36] <hobgoblin> not needing to do any of that IM stuff that people appear to do made it somewhat easier
[13:36] <hobgoblin> I tried empathy once as well
[13:36]  * nothingspecial doesn't need any of that either
[13:37] <zeroseven0183> I see. So you think xchat fits well with your needs?
[13:37] <hobgoblin> imho IRC is best in an IRC client
[13:37] <hobgoblin> zeroseven0183: yep - does all I need it to do
[13:37] <Snicksie> hobgoblin, its free now, lemme see :)
[13:37] <hobgoblin> tried the cli clients as well zeroseven0183 - didn't get on with those
[13:38] <zeroseven0183> hobgoblin Haha yeah right. I like it with colours
[13:38] <hobgoblin> :)
[13:38] <nothingspecial> cli clients are good if you like connecting to the same session from different machines
[13:38] <Snicksie> http://xchat.org/download/ ? :)
[13:38] <hobgoblin> my daughter used pidgin for a while zeroseven0183
[13:39] <hobgoblin> Snicksie: "You may use XChat for Windows for free for 30 days. If, after this time, you would like to continue using the product, you are required to register. Registration is a one time fee of €15.99"
[13:39] <zeroseven0183> As long as it's free software :-)
[13:39] <Snicksie> hm, I've never paid for it
[13:39] <hobgoblin> zeroseven0183: :)
[13:39] <Snicksie> then I had the other one
[13:39] <Snicksie> http://www.silverex.org/download/
[13:39] <hobgoblin> Snicksie: yea - but I would not recommend that in this channel :) that's just me though
[13:40] <hobgoblin> oh nice Snicksie
[13:40] <hobgoblin> shame jupe has gone :(
[13:40] <Snicksie> yeah
[13:40] <zeroseven0183> Everyone, enjoy chatting with your favorite chat application. I'm going to learn something new today. :-) http://www.codeyear.com
[13:40] <hobgoblin> :)
[13:45] <Jupe> hello again -
[13:46] <hobgoblin> weclome back Jupe :)
[13:47] <Jupe> thanks.      I am in  pidgin..         getting ready to try x-chat.
[13:48] <Jupe> ok. thanks.. bye
[14:59] <duanedesign> o/
[15:09] <Jupe> hello
[15:21] <fr33r1d3> hello Jupe
[15:21] <Jupe> kinda quiet in here.
[15:24] <hobgoblin> Jupe: get's like that
[15:24] <hobgoblin> if you need help Jupe you need to just ask and if someone is able to they will
[15:25] <Jupe> ok.  thanks.   will just   monitor for a while.
[15:26] <hobgoblin> if you want to just chat to people from the team then /j #ubuntu-beginners-team
[15:27] <Jupe> thanks.
[15:28] <fr33r1d3> quiet at the moment, but it usually doesn't take long to get help if you ask something.
[17:24] <JoseeAntonioR> does anyone here knows about vnc?
[17:24] <holstein> JoseeAntonioR: whats up?
[17:24] <JoseeAntonioR> holstein yesterday I set up everything to connect from an external network, but it doesn't seems to work
[17:25] <JoseeAntonioR> I tried it with a friend, but it said failed to connect
[17:25] <holstein> JoseeAntonioR: check the ports you are forwarding... just like ssh... usually 5901? something like that
[17:25] <JoseeAntonioR> I forwarded 5900 to my IP
[17:25] <holstein> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx has a nice implementation as well
[17:26] <holstein> JoseeAntonioR: yup.. you might need several ports forwarded
[17:26] <JoseeAntonioR> holstein ok, so I've forwarded from 5900 to 5920
[17:26] <JoseeAntonioR> I'll try it now
[17:26] <holstein> JoseeAntonioR: i would check that it can connect locally... if it can, suggest that software that worked to your friend connecting in... have them report errors... maybe sure you can ping each other... if you are using a domain name, use the IP instead
[17:27] <JoseeAntonioR> I can connect locally, and I'm using the IP address
[17:27] <holstein> if you have the option, connect it from somewhere else and test
[17:28] <holstein> the erros is either in your router config, or on the other guy coming in
[17:28] <coalwater> it might be a firewall issue
[17:29] <JoseeAntonioR> in my router it says that thw firewall is unactive
[17:29] <coalwater> try sudo ufw allow 5900
[17:29] <holstein> JoseeAntonioR: thats not good...
[17:29] <coalwater> i meant ubuntu firewall, not router's
[17:29] <holstein> you dont need to forward ports through a firewall that doesnt exist
[17:30] <coalwater> port forwarding is to tell which computer should handle this port
[17:30] <coalwater> in the network
[17:31] <holstein> but, if port 22 is listening, and the firewall is off, and you ssh in, it'll just find the port open on whatever machine that is
[17:32] <coalwater> u mean listening on the router? or on the pc ?
[17:32] <holstein> or that has been my finding... i would *not* run with the firewall turned off... nor with upnp enabled
[17:32] <JoseeAntonioR> holstein I have turned the firewall on, and set the rule
[17:32] <holstein> coalwater: it has been my findings that the requests get passed on to the network... not needing a forward, if the firewall is down
[17:32] <coalwater> yea i guess this upnp adds forwards by it self, but i usually prefer doing thngs my self lol
[17:33] <coalwater> anyway, what i wanted to say, that the requrest is probably forwarded correctly, but ufw blocks it
[17:34] <holstein> yeah, but ufw is not enabled by default.. assuming JoseeAntonioR hasnt chaged that... its a good thing to double check though
[17:34] <JoseeAntonioR> holstein I haven't enabled it. How do I check that?
[17:34] <coalwater> JoseeAntonioR: try sudo ufw status, if its disbaled or if it already has the port allowed then ufw isnt the problem
[17:35] <JoseeAntonioR> coalwater holstein Status: inactive
[17:35] <JoseeAntonioR> in my router it says: Status: Routing
[17:35] <JoseeAntonioR> should I change it to bridging?
[17:36] <holstein> JoseeAntonioR: i say, its your friend.. if you can remove that from the equation, and you yourself connect back in from somewhere else, using the software and techniques that work for you locally, subtituting only the IP address
[17:36] <JoseeAntonioR> holstein I'll try to check it with another person
[17:36] <holstein> JoseeAntonioR: you will be giving your friend your *main* IP address.. not the local 192.168.*.* one
[17:36] <JoseeAntonioR> yes, of course holstein
[17:37] <coalwater> brb
[17:37] <JoseeAntonioR> holstein can you help me to try it out?
[17:37] <holstein> JoseeAntonioR: sure...
[17:38] <holstein>  /q me, and tell me the creds
[17:38] <holstein> i have a few minutes...
[18:58] <BigOrange> Hi all, currently in the process of installing XP with the aim of getting some experience of Wubi. Anyone here used it? got any pointers? any quirks compared to a regular install? Thanks! :)
[19:39] <hobgoblin> BigOrange: you're installing XP specifically to install Ubuntu inside it ?
[19:43] <BigOrange> hobgoblin: haha yes I know it sounds a bit silly, but I don't have Windows installed on this machine (a netbook) it's linux/freebsd only.. the reason for this is that I was going in circles with someone on the forums recently before I realised it was a Wubi install, and that I know nothing about them, so thought I'd have a go! I considered just booting XP up on a VM, but figured it wouldn't be quite the same!
[19:44] <hobgoblin> oic - not sure I'd bother :p I tend to try and point people on the forum in the direction of not wubi lol
[19:45] <hobgoblin> I know it's a bit odd about max size - though you can fiddle afterwards it seems
[19:46] <hobgoblin> it's ones that aren't labelled wubi that make me go grrr - luckily for me I can change them
[19:46] <hobgoblin> some of the grub issues can be a bit of nightmare - and I'd not upgrade one
[19:46] <BigOrange> hobgoblin: yeah I agree, not sure it is.. been looking over at it promising to finish installing for AGES.. I've got too used to linux installs - XP is taking it's sweet time for such a small amount of data!
[19:47] <hobgoblin> BigOrange: I think it's quicker to install wubi if you put the iso in the same folder as wubi.exe
[19:48] <hobgoblin> I installed wubi once just to see - soon got a real partition I'm afraid
[19:51] <BigOrange> one of the things I'm hoping to confirm is that it's pretty simple to copy the contents of /home, to make moving from Wubi to full install easy - I assume it's just a case of copy to stick, copy off stick, but I kind of want to know!
[19:52] <BigOrange> not there yet - the XP installer is still slowly mowing it's way across my old drive (wasn't going to let it mess up my grub!)
[19:52] <hobgoblin> ha ha ha - so if you've just started installing xp and are then going to install wubi - I'll pop back tomorrow to catch up with you as you finish
[19:53] <nothingspecial> lol
[19:55] <BigOrange> I wish! it's been helpfully telling me it'll take about an hour.. so I left it then I came back and it had stopped with 39minutes to go and a dialog box that needed "ok" pressed. .. I'm watching this thing like a hawk now!
[19:55] <BigOrange> I also want to see how easy it is to get rid off ;)
[19:56] <hobgoblin> BigOrange: I think the easiest way is to move the whole wubi to a new partition - I assume you've seen the wubi sticky etc
[19:56] <hobgoblin> oh it's easy to get rid of I think
[19:57] <hobgoblin> reinstall xp
[19:58] <BigOrange> haha!
[19:58] <BigOrange> No chance
[19:58] <hobgoblin> :p
[21:01] <hobgoblin> BigOrange: how's it going?
[21:24] <BigOrange> HobGoblin: I'm in to XP thanks for asking - still setting up XP  - turns out my disk was just too old for the drivers for the netbook... gotta get up to SP3 :(
[21:24] <hobgoblin> lol
[21:25] <hobgoblin> well I'm off to bed in an hour or so - wubi will have started to install and ground to a halt about then - or tried to restart I mean ...
[21:26] <BigOrange> I'd forgotten that we didn't use to have tabs in browsers .. grouping windows - REALLY annoying!
[21:26] <hobgoblin> oh I don't do that - I get confused really quickly
[21:27] <BigOrange> I've downloaded Wubi and put it on a stick so if these updates ever finish it'll be good to go!
[21:27] <BigOrange> Starting to think you may have been on to something about this not being worth the effort!! :/
[21:28] <hobgoblin> BigOrange: I seriously suggest you put wubi.exe and the iso in the same folder - otherwise wubi will be going online to get all the stuff
[21:29] <BigOrange> Ah brilliant - Thanks hobgoblin
[21:29] <hobgoblin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_can_I_use_a_manually_downloaded_ISO.3F
[21:29] <hobgoblin> if you've not seen the wubiguide - it does have some good info in it :)
[21:30] <hobgoblin> lol - "Windows ME is not supported. " - was it ever?
[21:31] <Unit193> If it's not said that it doesn't, someone will complain about it
[21:32] <hobgoblin> :)
[21:33] <BigOrange> Ah see I'm learning allready - I didn't even realise it could use my oneiric iso - that's at least half hour of downloading saved!
[21:33] <hobgoblin> well I hope it's worth it ;)
[21:46] <hobgoblin> BigOrange: off now - good luck :)
[22:13] <bmj2354> Hello there, I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but my usb drive isn't loading when I reboot my computer, has anyone had a similar problem?
[22:15] <BigOrange> bmj2354: Hi there, ah yes loads of times! usually it comes down to how you created it?
[22:15] <BigOrange> also worth checking that the bios supports booting usb?
[22:16] <bmj2354> How would I be able to find that out?
[22:16] <Unit193> 1. How did you create the boot flash? 2. Your computer should have a boot order in the BIOS 3. Your computer should havea boot menu if you hit F11, Esc, of some other key when first booting
[22:17] <bmj2354> I'm assuming it might be the flash drive. I've tried using the disk utility and formating the drive, but that didn't work.
[22:17] <bmj2354> I created the boot drive following the instructions on the ubuntu website.
[22:19] <bmj2354> I downloaded the install and then used the start up disk creator.
[22:19] <Unit193> unetbootin is a recommended tool to create the boot flash
[22:20] <BigOrange> If you get repeated errors writing to it, try formatting it in gparted as fat32 also :)
[22:28] <bmj2354> Alright, thanks a lot guys. I'm trying out both of the programs you recommended, i'll let you know how it goes!