[19:33] morning === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson [21:36] morning [22:01] morning [22:13] morning [22:16] morning [23:22] how this seems like a great place to ask, anyone here had issues accessing the ASB site since the FF 8 update a while back? [23:28] just give me your login details and I'll take a look fot you [23:31] ojwb: well even just accessing the asb.co.nz homepage [23:31] * ojwb doesn't have FF8 so can't easily check [23:31] there's a good chance someone will [23:31] ojwb: fair enough [23:32] G, I see the problem. [23:32] kcj: it happens for you? Directs to their mobile site, and the click to their full site is broken? [23:32] Yep. [23:34] (believe it to not, I told ASB about it over a month ago) [23:34] G, Found a solution. [23:35] G, Install a user agent switching addon and switch your user agent to IE 9. [23:35] kcj: yeah exactly [23:37] kcj: I got fed up though (cos I don't really like running addons etc) and this time send them a message via Fastnet, "Regrettably, ASB does not support the Ubuntu operating system. I am sorry." (although he said say he was going to forward it again to the ones that manage the site, so that is something [23:38] Lame. [23:38] Why do you use firefox if you don't like add-ons? [23:39] * ojwb prods his partner to see if she has a suitable windows FF at work [23:39] ojwb: oh it works in Windows [23:39] ah [23:39] quality [23:39] that's ASB on the blacklist then [23:39] fwiw: http://dev.nigelj.com/user-agent-change [23:40] all I can see that has changed it, is that the "Ubuntu;" added before X11 [23:44] kcj: in answer to your question: FF Sync (between installations/computers/etc etc), when needed (which atm it is on one of my installations the addons like Firebug are pretty darn good), and I get good mileage out of it [23:45] firefox addons do sometimes seem to make it less stable [23:45] though it's hard to actually know what crashed it [23:47] The only thing that's keeping me on FF is the add-ons. [23:47] Otherwise I'd be using Chrome. [23:48] I still don't like Chrome [23:48] the process separation is nice, but I think FF has that too now [23:49] ojwb: Chrome's separation is iirc per tab, where as FF's is 'firefox' and 'plugin-container' [23:49] oh, that's a lot less good [23:49] but it means if Flash/Java/etc get a bit pushy, you can just kill the plugin-container [23:49] chrome is per tab for a while, and at some point it seems to put more than one tab in each process [23:50] but a tab dying doesn't kill the browser, just the tab itself and maybe a few others [23:50] I don't run flash or java plugins, so they don't get a chance to take the browser down [23:50] i suspect java is only useful if you have a particular application which needs it now [23:51] i've not hit a site which seemed affected by lack of java for years [23:51] I have, but that is partly because I've wanted to use them and knew full well I'd need Java, so not a great example ;) [23:53] Java is good for Minecraft. :) [23:54] kcj: anyway, thanks for confirming that it wasn't just me [23:55] np